To call the use of Turnitin a "witchhunt" is a little disingenuous, don't you think? It implies that those who are caught plagiarizing are wrongly accused.
It implies a presumption of guilt of ALL students whom are subjected to the search and have their works appropriated.
I'm also not convinced that the notion of implied copyright should be twisted to prevent students from contributing to a system that prevents cheating.
Well, I'm not convinced that current copyright law "promote[s] the progress of science and useful arts" but as long as the law is the way it is, then it really doesn't matter what you or I am convinced of.
That just leaves the other, uglier objection to the use of the service: Students want to be able to cheat, and contributing papers by proxy to the Turnitin service can frustrate cheaters.
You mean, students want OTHER students to be able to cheat. Since it is their own work that the students do not want want permanently stored in turnitin's database, it doesn't have anything to do with their own ability to cheat.
And you know what? That's just fine. As long as intellectual property laws are going to enable all kinds of other morally questionable behaviour, then there is no reason that opting out of being part of a witchhunt against other students is wrong either.
However, so far as we can discern what the contents were based on the name, which is a jury question, it's still possible to win a suit without actually showing what the contents are. But I wouldn't like to have to do that, since it's not a strong position.
I have not seen the screen-shots mentioned, but if they include the file's hash, and the RIAA can produce their own copy of the file that has the same hash and is an actual copy of the work in question, that ought to be sufficient. Unless they wish to argue that the defendent's software was handing out bogus hash, which might result in a bad trip.
FWIW, I know a guy who regularly shares non-American, and presumably non-MPAA, movies via his preferred p2p apparatus. He recently told me that he decided to stop sharing Blood Rain for fear that the MAFIAA wasn't smart enough to distinguish it from BloodRayne.
aren't there better things we should be trying to turn into hyrdogen?
Right now, today, we only have one, maybe two, wide-scale energy distribution systems. Its gasoline. If we can easily and cheaply make a gas station do double-duty as a hydrogran station that solves the short term problem of how to fill-up hydrogren powered cars. The expectation is that over time, as hydrogren powered cards theoretically become widespread, we can slowly build up alternate distribution system(s) to support them as we wean off of gasoline.
PS - the other "maybe" distribution system is electricity. I say "maybe" because we do a power grid, but we don't have metered charging stations nor do we have the capacity to support wide-scale automobile recharging. Yet. Start putting some nukes online and we might get there pretty quick.
he was still trying to mislead the rubes that would belive him as the very next paragraph in the story shows:
You mean this one?
But he then added, "If inciting people to do that is terrorism, and if killing those who kill our sons is terrorism, then let history be witness that we are terrorists."
So you have done buisness with a company knowing that they advertise by spam.
Depends on how you look at it. Although I use the term spam loosely, I blame etrade for giving my address away in the first place, not the mailing list operator for using it - as far as I know, they have every right to think it is legit since they got it officially from etrade. If I were to interpret it strictly, I would never trade options either as it was the CBOE itself that first spammed me via etrade.
But I believe that generally these types of socially-conscious funds inevitably wind up sacrificing returns for "principals".
Considering that in general most funds, socially-conscious or not, underperform the market indices, I think your conclusions are erroneous. I don't have the data to do a comprehensive survey, but considering that it is easy enough to find other high-performing socially-conscious funds like the paxworld family, I'm more willing to believe that the group of such funds as a whole at least mirrors the general market for funds than I am to believe that it trails it.
The concept is not new. "Green" mutual funds have been around forever. They all have the same thing in common... poor returns.
I call bullshit. The very first green fund I found via searching google for performance green "mutual fund" was the Winslow Green Growth fund (WGGFX) which has outperformed the S&P and DOW indices by over 30%. Since most managed funds (at least 80% of them) fail to even match market indices, clearly not ALL green funds have poor returns.
Here's my story, it meanders off-topic but I think it is worth posting as an example of another kind of data breach, one caused by corporate greed:
Like the article-poster I'm one of those guys who uses individualized addresses for each online entity they deal with, as in slashdot thinks my email is slashdot@mydomain.com, amazon thinks it is amazon@mydomain.com and etrade thinks it is etrade@mydomain.com - those examples are simplified for illustrative purposes.
A while back, before the bubble burst, I dabbled in some options trading in my etrade account. Therefore, Etrade's marketing department decided that would make my contact information something they could sell to the CBOE and I started getting bi-weekly spam from somebody on behalf of the CBOE trying to sell me all kinds of bullshit options information -- all sent to my etrade-only address.
After about a year of that crap, it finally stopped on its own. But then I started to get spam from the same mailing-list operator that the CBOE had used, but this time they were promoting other brokerages like TD Waterhouse, and most recently "TradeKing" which seems very questionable.
Whenever I get one these brokerage spams, I have to laugh. Etrade breached my privacy to make a buck or two and I'm sure they did the same thing to tens of thousands of other customers. But the end result is that their competition now has a confirmed mailing list of etrade customers, and the stupid greedy bastards GAVE it to them.
I've since opened an account with TD Waterhouse (aka Ameritrade) and make most of my trades through them, in part because of etrade's callous treatment of my privacy. I wonder how many others have done the same...
Osama bin Laden must be ROFL wherever he is that he was able to destroy the ideals of the United State of America that took centuries to build so easily.
He knew exactly what he was doing. Read this quote from an interview right after 9/11:
"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in general -- into an unbearable hell and a choking life." --Osama bin Laden, October 21, 2001
Bank or Credit Union? I expect that behaviour from credit unions since they aren't suppossed to have a profit motive (although the really big CU's seem to think they are banks and act accordingly, like CEFCU for one).
Before you laugh too heavily about China's "space seeds," you might want to remember that most American believe:
1. The earth was created in 7 days 2. That god created people "as is" 3. Evolution is a myth
All true. But the USA has no plans to send a ship into space to look for this God. Kind of puts the level of ignorance in perspective doesn't it?
1. all the capital investment going into China - China leads the world in foreign investment.
Simply pouring money into the system doesn't guarantee results, look how much money went into Russia after the USSR fell and look at how much good it did.
3. China has HUGE cash reserves, meanwhile the US is running a 6 trillion dollar deficit which will only get larger thanks to medicare and social security benefits, the war in iraq.
Guess where most of that cash is? In the USA in the form of treasury bonds. Sure, China "owns" all that US debt, but if the US government got desperate enough, it could reneg on those bonds at any time and China would be left holding the bag. I don't think it will happen, but it sure isn't as strong a position as you make it out to be.
almost all electronics and manufacturing is done in china.
And other countries, particularly India are catching up. India's had a lot of economic reforms in the last decade, and while they still have a long ways to go, China's got competition nipping at its heels.
5. china's population - a sellers wet dream. the us' market dominance is fading as more and more chinese have disposable income.
That big old population is headed for big time trouble. The "one-child" policy means that as the current population ages, any sort of social security system will be impractical because instead of 4-5 earners to support 1 retiree, there will be 1 earner to support 2-4 retirees.
I think the fact that most people understand that their banks would never consider returning that "honesty and ethics" factors into the equation.
Indeed. As they say - "Turnabout is fair play."
I have never once had a representative of corporate america ever come to me and say, "you made a mistake and gave us too much money, here is your money back." But I have had more cases than I can count of a corporation screwing up and blaming me - oh wait, there was that one time I did get refund. Prudential Car Insurance sent me a refund on a check they deposited 3 months prior -- and a month after they cancelled my insurance for non-payment.
In this country, the corporations have redefined the term "ethics" to mean "CYA, so you don't get sued"- when no one reported the error with the ATM, the bank got exactly the ethics and honesty that they have been preaching.
If I wanted to listen to New Kids on the Block without letting my Metallica friends know, I'd just go out and buy the tape and hide it in a different place than my regular tapes.
What is this "tape" you speak of? Are you into bondage? On the internet? With kids?
Clearly the reason people are purchasing vinyl is to take advantage of the analog hole. I think the MAFIAA needs to increase their level of "campaign contributions" with a few more fact finding trips to the bahamas so as to assure passage of the AMCA - Analog Millenium Communications Act before this piracy destroys the entire American economy.
What the hell is this youtube video then? I'm calling BS. Take your propaganda off of slashdot - I know how to use google!
Footage from (apparently) Israeli military cameras that is so low rez that it is barely discernable? Interspered with text telling us what to think?
Who do you think made those videos? Israeli military video footage doesn't just appear on the net by itself. The only propaganda I see here is your post and the claims in those dubious videos. On the other hand, the OP makes a plausible and rational explanation for his claims.
Vendor X in this case is in no way required to license their software as Open Source to any other entity, and the DoD is not required to put the source code or binaries online for anyone to download. Their only requirement is that if they redistribute the software (say for example they send copies to the Canadian DND for inter-force communications in Afghanistan), they must make the source code available in a standard machine readable format upon request
That will never happen.
The DoD already specifies that they get a full copy of the source for most, if not all, of their contracted development. They also require the right to give that source to any of their other contractors.
But there is no way the DoD would put an additional requirement on themselves. They gain nothing by forcing themselves to unconditionally provide source to any other organizations. They may wish to provide the source on a case by case basis, but no way are they going to mandate it.
If you want to reduce our dependency on IP and strong foreign IP laws, go start a manufacturing business...
What America needs is an IP-manufacturing based economy, not a IP-distribution based economy.
We need to start selling the service of creating IP directly instead of indirectly funding it by charging for distribution. Since distribution is essentially free, thanks to the net, and it's clearly impossible to compete with free, then we need a new system. Not legal protectionism that conflicts with one of the most key elements of human nature -- the desire to share knowledge.
I don't always agree with Google tactics but at least they are innovative. Certainly changing the internet, computers and now looks like cars and beyond.
On the other hand, one could easily make the criticism that Google has lost focus and are all over the map, doing a lot of things and most them not anywhere near as well as they do web-searching. Perhaps this is a downside of having too much cash - they just don't have enough good ideas and talented people to make efficient use of all that money.
I know that Google employees receive a $5000 discount (plus a few other perks that I'm not clear on) on any purchase of a hybrid vehicle that gets 45 mpg (ie, Prius, Insight or Civic Hybrid).
Your statement implies that they only get the discount (really a employer subsidy) if the vehicle is a hybrid. If that's the case, it seems awfully short-sighted. Why not a conventional gasoline or diesel vehicle that also achieves at least 45mpg too? Is their goal to promote hybrids or to promote efficiency? Seems like promoting efficiency would be a better goal because it doesn't limit development to a single technology which may easily turn out to be a dead end.
I wonder what would happen if a really big organization like the US DoD went to Microsoft when it comes time to renew their bulk licensing contract and specified that the software must be licensed as OSS, and in return offered them twice the amount of the previous contract. What would win out? Greed and good business sense, or jealous protection of the code and the loss of a major customer?)
What would happen is that MS would quickly get on the phone with their lobbyists and start persuading their captive congressmen to start leaning on the DoD to withdraw the FOSS requirement of the contract, but to keep the price at the same amount.
Unfortunately, you bought one that isn't HDCP compliant.
Bullshit, and I hope you get modded for it. HDCP "works" just fine with the switch.
If you don't believe me, and you don't believe the part on the web page that says: - Certified to perform at standards set by HDMI(TM) then maybe you wll believe this other guy's extensive test results:
Slashdot Mirror
To call the use of Turnitin a "witchhunt" is a little disingenuous, don't you think? It implies that those who are caught plagiarizing are wrongly accused.
It implies a presumption of guilt of ALL students whom are subjected to the search and have their works appropriated.
I'm also not convinced that the notion of implied copyright should be twisted to prevent students from contributing to a system that prevents cheating.
Well, I'm not convinced that current copyright law "promote[s] the progress of science and useful arts" but as long as the law is the way it is, then it really doesn't matter what you or I am convinced of.
That just leaves the other, uglier objection to the use of the service: Students want to be able to cheat, and contributing papers by proxy to the Turnitin service can frustrate cheaters.
You mean, students want OTHER students to be able to cheat. Since it is their own work that the students do not want want permanently stored in turnitin's database, it doesn't have anything to do with their own ability to cheat.
And you know what? That's just fine. As long as intellectual property laws are going to enable all kinds of other morally questionable behaviour, then there is no reason that opting out of being part of a witchhunt against other students is wrong either.
Copyright is a two-way sword.
However, so far as we can discern what the contents were based on the name, which is a jury question, it's still possible to win a suit without actually showing what the contents are. But I wouldn't like to have to do that, since it's not a strong position.
I have not seen the screen-shots mentioned, but if they include the file's hash, and the RIAA can produce their own copy of the file that has the same hash and is an actual copy of the work in question, that ought to be sufficient. Unless they wish to argue that the defendent's software was handing out bogus hash, which might result in a bad trip.
FWIW, I know a guy who regularly shares non-American, and presumably non-MPAA, movies via his preferred p2p apparatus. He recently told me that he decided to stop sharing Blood Rain for fear that the MAFIAA wasn't smart enough to distinguish it from BloodRayne.
aren't there better things we should be trying to turn into hyrdogen?
Right now, today, we only have one, maybe two, wide-scale energy distribution systems. Its gasoline. If we can easily and cheaply make a gas station do double-duty as a hydrogran station that solves the short term problem of how to fill-up hydrogren powered cars. The expectation is that over time, as hydrogren powered cards theoretically become widespread, we can slowly build up alternate distribution system(s) to support them as we wean off of gasoline.
PS - the other "maybe" distribution system is electricity. I say "maybe" because we do a power grid, but we don't have metered charging stations nor do we have the capacity to support wide-scale automobile recharging. Yet. Start putting some nukes online and we might get there pretty quick.
You mean this one?
Go back in your hole you islamofasciphile.
So you have done buisness with a company knowing that they advertise by spam.
Depends on how you look at it. Although I use the term spam loosely, I blame etrade for giving my address away in the first place, not the mailing list operator for using it - as far as I know, they have every right to think it is legit since they got it officially from etrade. If I were to interpret it strictly, I would never trade options either as it was the CBOE itself that first spammed me via etrade.
But I believe that generally these types of socially-conscious funds inevitably wind up sacrificing returns for "principals".
Considering that in general most funds, socially-conscious or not, underperform the market indices, I think your conclusions are erroneous. I don't have the data to do a comprehensive survey, but considering that it is easy enough to find other high-performing socially-conscious funds like the paxworld family, I'm more willing to believe that the group of such funds as a whole at least mirrors the general market for funds than I am to believe that it trails it.
The concept is not new. "Green" mutual funds have been around forever. They all have the same thing in common ... poor returns.
I call bullshit. The very first green fund I found via searching google for performance green "mutual fund" was the Winslow Green Growth fund (WGGFX) which has outperformed the S&P and DOW indices by over 30%. Since most managed funds (at least 80% of them) fail to even match market indices, clearly not ALL green funds have poor returns.
Here's my story, it meanders off-topic but I think it is worth posting as an example of another kind of data breach, one caused by corporate greed:
Like the article-poster I'm one of those guys who uses individualized addresses for each online entity they deal with, as in slashdot thinks my email is slashdot@mydomain.com, amazon thinks it is amazon@mydomain.com and etrade thinks it is etrade@mydomain.com - those examples are simplified for illustrative purposes.
A while back, before the bubble burst, I dabbled in some options trading in my etrade account. Therefore, Etrade's marketing department decided that would make my contact information something they could sell to the CBOE and I started getting bi-weekly spam from somebody on behalf of the CBOE trying to sell me all kinds of bullshit options information -- all sent to my etrade-only address.
After about a year of that crap, it finally stopped on its own. But then I started to get spam from the same mailing-list operator that the CBOE had used, but this time they were promoting other brokerages like TD Waterhouse, and most recently "TradeKing" which seems very questionable.
Whenever I get one these brokerage spams, I have to laugh. Etrade breached my privacy to make a buck or two and I'm sure they did the same thing to tens of thousands of other customers. But the end result is that their competition now has a confirmed mailing list of etrade customers, and the stupid greedy bastards GAVE it to them.
I've since opened an account with TD Waterhouse (aka Ameritrade) and make most of my trades through them, in part because of etrade's callous treatment of my privacy. I wonder how many others have done the same...
Osama bin Laden must be ROFL wherever he is that he was able to destroy the ideals of the United State of America that took centuries to build so easily.
He knew exactly what he was doing.
Read this quote from an interview right after 9/11:
"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in general -- into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
--Osama bin Laden, October 21, 2001
Bank or Credit Union? I expect that behaviour from credit unions since they aren't suppossed to have a profit motive (although the really big CU's seem to think they are banks and act accordingly, like CEFCU for one).
All true. But the USA has no plans to send a ship into space to look for this God.
Kind of puts the level of ignorance in perspective doesn't it?
1. all the capital investment going into China - China leads the world in foreign investment.
Simply pouring money into the system doesn't guarantee results, look how much money went into Russia after the USSR fell and look at how much good it did.
3. China has HUGE cash reserves, meanwhile the US is running a 6 trillion dollar deficit which will only get larger thanks to medicare and social security benefits, the war in iraq.
Guess where most of that cash is? In the USA in the form of treasury bonds. Sure, China "owns" all that US debt, but if the US government got desperate enough, it could reneg on those bonds at any time and China would be left holding the bag. I don't think it will happen, but it sure isn't as strong a position as you make it out to be.
almost all electronics and manufacturing is done in china.
And other countries, particularly India are catching up. India's had a lot of economic reforms in the last decade, and while they still have a long ways to go, China's got competition nipping at its heels.
5. china's population - a sellers wet dream. the us' market dominance is fading as more and more chinese have disposable income.
That big old population is headed for big time trouble. The "one-child" policy means that as the current population ages, any sort of social security system will be impractical because instead of 4-5 earners to support 1 retiree, there will be 1 earner to support 2-4 retirees.
I think the fact that most people understand that their banks would never consider returning that "honesty and ethics" factors into the equation.
Indeed. As they say - "Turnabout is fair play."
I have never once had a representative of corporate america ever come to me and say, "you made a mistake and gave us too much money, here is your money back." But I have had more cases than I can count of a corporation screwing up and blaming me - oh wait, there was that one time I did get refund. Prudential Car Insurance sent me a refund on a check they deposited 3 months prior -- and a month after they cancelled my insurance for non-payment.
In this country, the corporations have redefined the term "ethics" to mean "CYA, so you don't get sued"- when no one reported the error with the ATM, the bank got exactly the ethics and honesty that they have been preaching.
If I wanted to listen to New Kids on the Block without letting my Metallica friends know, I'd just go out and buy the tape and hide it in a different place than my regular tapes.
What is this "tape" you speak of? Are you into bondage? On the internet? With kids?
Clearly the reason people are purchasing vinyl is to take advantage of the analog hole. I think the MAFIAA needs to increase their level of "campaign contributions" with a few more fact finding trips to the bahamas so as to assure passage of the AMCA - Analog Millenium Communications Act before this piracy destroys the entire American economy.
What the hell is this youtube video then?
I'm calling BS. Take your propaganda off of slashdot - I know how to use google!
Footage from (apparently) Israeli military cameras that is so low rez that it is barely discernable?
Interspered with text telling us what to think?
Who do you think made those videos? Israeli military video footage doesn't just appear on the net by itself. The only propaganda I see here is your post and the claims in those dubious videos. On the other hand, the OP makes a plausible and rational explanation for his claims.
Running on NT? Does that mean MS no longer supports the constitution? Is that a General Protection Fault?
No, its the death of red, white and blue screen.
I use emacs, which might be thought of as a thermonuclear word processor. It was created by Richard Stallman; enough said....
Enough said, yet the author goes on to write an entire paragraph?
Perhaps Neal Stephenson does not quite grasp the meaning of "enough?" Judging by the length of his books, I guess that's probably true.
Domo arigato!
Vendor X in this case is in no way required to license their software as Open Source to any other entity, and the DoD is not required to put the source code or binaries online for anyone to download. Their only requirement is that if they redistribute the software (say for example they send copies to the Canadian DND for inter-force communications in Afghanistan), they must make the source code available in a standard machine readable format upon request
That will never happen.
The DoD already specifies that they get a full copy of the source for most, if not all, of their contracted development. They also require the right to give that source to any of their other contractors.
But there is no way the DoD would put an additional requirement on themselves. They gain nothing by forcing themselves to unconditionally provide source to any other organizations. They may wish to provide the source on a case by case basis, but no way are they going to mandate it.
If you want to reduce our dependency on IP and strong foreign IP laws, go start a manufacturing business...
What America needs is an IP-manufacturing based economy, not a IP-distribution based economy.
We need to start selling the service of creating IP directly instead of indirectly funding it by charging for distribution. Since distribution is essentially free, thanks to the net, and it's clearly impossible to compete with free, then we need a new system. Not legal protectionism that conflicts with one of the most key elements of human nature -- the desire to share knowledge.
I don't always agree with Google tactics but at least they are innovative. Certainly changing the internet, computers and now looks like cars and beyond.
On the other hand, one could easily make the criticism that Google has lost focus and are all over the map, doing a lot of things and most them not anywhere near as well as they do web-searching. Perhaps this is a downside of having too much cash - they just don't have enough good ideas and talented people to make efficient use of all that money.
I know that Google employees receive a $5000 discount (plus a few other perks that I'm not clear on) on any purchase of a hybrid vehicle that gets 45 mpg (ie, Prius, Insight or Civic Hybrid).
Your statement implies that they only get the discount (really a employer subsidy) if the vehicle is a hybrid. If that's the case, it seems awfully short-sighted. Why not a conventional gasoline or diesel vehicle that also achieves at least 45mpg too? Is their goal to promote hybrids or to promote efficiency? Seems like promoting efficiency would be a better goal because it doesn't limit development to a single technology which may easily turn out to be a dead end.
I wonder what would happen if a really big organization like the US DoD went to Microsoft when it comes time to renew their bulk licensing contract and specified that the software must be licensed as OSS, and in return offered them twice the amount of the previous contract. What would win out? Greed and good business sense, or jealous protection of the code and the loss of a major customer?)
What would happen is that MS would quickly get on the phone with their lobbyists and start persuading their captive congressmen to start leaning on the DoD to withdraw the FOSS requirement of the contract, but to keep the price at the same amount.
Unfortunately, you bought one that isn't HDCP compliant.
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Bullshit, and I hope you get modded for it. HDCP "works" just fine with the switch.
If you don't believe me,
and you don't believe the part on the web page that says: - Certified to perform at standards set by HDMI(TM)
then maybe you wll believe this other guy's extensive test results:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=6