do you know of any specific books that are not available
You are asking me for a list of books that have been banned from some public school or another? And if most of the attempts to ban books have failed, then that makes the argument that kids can just get their parents to buy the books or go to the public library legitimate?
I really don't agree with your fundamental argument that select censorship of a few books is a real problem for these kids.
How many of cases have we seen of a book being censored and removed from an inner city school (the example you put forth)
That's funny, I didn't mention inner cities at all. Looks to me like you are just trying to strawman the discussion. In fact, a larger percentage of the rural population lives in poverty than the urban population does - especially single parent families headed by the mother. Public libraries are even harder to come by in rural areas than urban.
Apple has never worked with the NSA to create a backdoor in any of our products,
Note that they specified the NSA, but did not disclaim the possibility of working with some other group, like say a sub-contractor who didn't officially disclose to Apple the fact that they were an NSA sub-contractor. Surely the NSA isn't the only part of the US government that would love to have unfetterred "legal" access to arbitrary iphones.
With all the deliberatedly worded non-denial denials we've seen in response to NSA revelations, you'd think that Apple's PR firms would know to make an absolute denial if that was their intent. That wouldn't stop some people from thinking Apple is out-right lying. But why even give them an excuse, unless Apple does have something to hide and they want plausible deniability if the truth ever comes out?
Yeah, I expected the "kids don't even have access to public libraries" response. It proves my point, there are way bigger problems these particular kids face.
You seem to be the kind of person who confuses the form of something with the meaning of something. Simply mimicking the form of my response doesn't impart any validity to your point.
In fact, your point is rather simple-minded. If only the biggest problems are worthy of discussion, much less action, then hell, we should only be talking about famine in africa.
That teacher made no effort to make the distinction between the actions of people in the past, and the young white men in the room.
It is weird how you got all that ranting out of some uncited event. How do you even know you are talking about the same event the previous poster was talking about?
Seems kind of convenient to me that you would paint it as so obviously one-sided but neglect to give anyone else reading along the opportunity to see for themselves.
Since none of these books is banned from the public library,
Yes, I expected someone to bring up public libraries. Those tend to be few and far between in the neighborhoods where poor kids live. Given that mom's working 60 hours a week, she won't be taking junior to the library all that often either. Full disclosure: I have many librarians in the family.
Kids that are brought up in challenged environments have a wide number of factors that will limit their ability to succeed in life.
Yes, they all add up. Restricting their access to "subversive" knowledge doesn't help.
Kids can get any of those books via their parents if they want.
Yeah, that's privilege speaking.
The people who most rely on public institutions are the ones who are least able to replace them with their own money. Average middle-class kid and just get his mom to order the book on amazon. Average lower-class kid's mom is working 60 hours a week just to pay the rent and keep food on the table. She doesn't even have a computer to order from amazon and couldn't afford to if she did.
Apparent I have a better Idea of it than you do. You seem to think walking by a USB socket with a thumb drive and it roots what ever operating system happens to be installed on said computer.
Yes, that is exactly what I think! Only an idiot would think otherwise!
But these two can now take some comfort in the fact that they allowed Snowden to see that official channels do not work
They were beta-testers of whistle-blowing, performing important Q&A testing on the process so that the final release could make it out to the public without any major bugs.
These are not USB devices. They don't work in USB sockets. They plug into your television.
So, your contention is that a computer in the form-factor of a usb stick can not be a full-fledged computer if you add a usb port to the design? You realize that doesn't pass the laugh-test right? Nor does it pass the existence test of the Dell thumb PC which does have a USB port.
Even the PS3 jailbreak required the PS3 to hack itself, due to poor programming. The processing wasn't done on the usb stick.
At this point I am now convinced you don't have a fuckin clue how security exploits work. Enjoy your ignorance. It's all you've got.
After all, USB sticks don't have much in the way computing power.
Lol, who can take you seriously after such a statement? People are putting entire PC's on usb stick form factors. Dell's got their "thumb PC" google has their chromecast, and there are plenty no-name chinese units too.
Buffer overruns from an input device are trivial to prevent. And even windows does that these days.
That's what we in the security biz call "famous last words."
It's CRIMINALLY STUPID for the USB port to provide any other kind of access by default. It should not give the OS kernel access to media plugged into it. It should CERTAINLY not automatically engage media plugged into it to read it.
There is at least one exploit out there that relies on fragility in the USB firmware - the code that auto-negotiates with a USB device when it gets plugged in, sets up the bus, etc. The exploit works by sending unexpected data (buffer overflow, out-of-range values, etc).
That kind of exploit works even if the OS does not autoplay or even automount.
That only proves you are a fool. There is no "debit reporting agency".
Yes. indeed, I am a fool for thinking you meant more than just credit reports. I figured you were educated enough to be aware of data brokers who look at spending habits like, where, when and how much you spend. What a fool I was for thinking you were putting on an air of stupidity instead of actually being stupid.
you have to understand that these developers are not your serfs you can command
Ugh, I hate that sort of extremist straw-man. The developers are working on public projects, that means they are subject to both public praise and public criticism. It is a package deal.
Since the public record indicates that the vast majority of terrorist attacks that the NSA has helped stopped are overseas, outside the US
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Let it be known that uber-con cold fjord has acknowledged that the NSA's domestic meta-data program (section 215) has stopped zero terrorist attacks inside the US and that the overseas meta-data interception program (section 702) has "helped" to stop one, perhaps two attacks in the US.
This guy is just a bait-and-switch con man like any other before him that have existed throughout history. He just scaled it up a notch by using internet spam techniques and getting people's credit cards.
So, more of a wet fart who used the internet to scale up to the level of a hershey squirt.
Some of the details in the Amazon story are missing though:
(1) It was a 2-for-1 sale on DVD box sets where they double-discounted the price of the cheaper DVD set. Some people bought identically priced sets and so paid $0, but a lot of people bought two sets with different prices so they paid the nominal difference.
(2) Amazon corrected the error on the website within hours, but continued shipping some of the orders for up to 4 days later so they clearly knew about the error and still choose to let merchandise ship rather than make the effort to put an internal hold on it.
Information about debit cards are NOT shared with anyone outside of the issuing bank.
I find that impossible to believe when the exact same processing system is used for both credit and debit cards.
Hell, there are even "rewards" programs for visa and mastercard branded debit cards. I think you would be hard pressed to explain how visa can do that without knowing your spending.
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do you know of any specific books that are not available
You are asking me for a list of books that have been banned from some public school or another? And if most of the attempts to ban books have failed, then that makes the argument that kids can just get their parents to buy the books or go to the public library legitimate?
I really don't agree with your fundamental argument that select censorship of a few books is a real problem for these kids.
They all add up.
How many of cases have we seen of a book being censored and removed from an inner city school (the example you put forth)
That's funny, I didn't mention inner cities at all. Looks to me like you are just trying to strawman the discussion. In fact, a larger percentage of the rural population lives in poverty than the urban population does - especially single parent families headed by the mother. Public libraries are even harder to come by in rural areas than urban.
Apple has never worked with the NSA to create a backdoor in any of our products,
Note that they specified the NSA, but did not disclaim the possibility of working with some other group, like say a sub-contractor who didn't officially disclose to Apple the fact that they were an NSA sub-contractor. Surely the NSA isn't the only part of the US government that would love to have unfetterred "legal" access to arbitrary iphones.
With all the deliberatedly worded non-denial denials we've seen in response to NSA revelations, you'd think that Apple's PR firms would know to make an absolute denial if that was their intent. That wouldn't stop some people from thinking Apple is out-right lying. But why even give them an excuse, unless Apple does have something to hide and they want plausible deniability if the truth ever comes out?
Children should not suffer the sins of the parents. I am not my parents.
Then surely the children should not benefit from the sins of the parents either, right?
I get the feeling you are one of those people who think institutional racism doesn't exist. Some sort of libtard fairy-tale.
Yeah, I expected the "kids don't even have access to public libraries" response. It proves my point, there are way bigger problems these particular kids face.
You seem to be the kind of person who confuses the form of something with the meaning of something. Simply mimicking the form of my response doesn't impart any validity to your point.
In fact, your point is rather simple-minded. If only the biggest problems are worthy of discussion, much less action, then hell, we should only be talking about famine in africa.
That teacher made no effort to make the distinction between the actions of people in the past, and the young white men in the room.
It is weird how you got all that ranting out of some uncited event. How do you even know you are talking about the same event the previous poster was talking about?
Seems kind of convenient to me that you would paint it as so obviously one-sided but neglect to give anyone else reading along the opportunity to see for themselves.
Since none of these books is banned from the public library,
Yes, I expected someone to bring up public libraries. Those tend to be few and far between in the neighborhoods where poor kids live. Given that mom's working 60 hours a week, she won't be taking junior to the library all that often either. Full disclosure: I have many librarians in the family.
Kids that are brought up in challenged environments have a wide number of factors that will limit their ability to succeed in life.
Yes, they all add up. Restricting their access to "subversive" knowledge doesn't help.
Kids can get any of those books via their parents if they want.
Yeah, that's privilege speaking.
The people who most rely on public institutions are the ones who are least able to replace them with their own money. Average middle-class kid and just get his mom to order the book on amazon. Average lower-class kid's mom is working 60 hours a week just to pay the rent and keep food on the table. She doesn't even have a computer to order from amazon and couldn't afford to if she did.
This is probably part of your problem. I hate to say it, but you're too old for online dating: women in your age group aren't very internet-savvy,
Bingo. There may be plenty of fish in the sea, but they haven't been there long.
On the plus side for the OP, the older you get, the more the female:male ratio goes up in the real world.
Apparent I have a better Idea of it than you do. You seem to think walking by a USB socket with a thumb drive and it roots what ever operating system happens to be installed on said computer.
Yes, that is exactly what I think! Only an idiot would think otherwise!
But these two can now take some comfort in the fact that they allowed Snowden to see that official channels do not work
They were beta-testers of whistle-blowing, performing important Q&A testing on the process so that the final release could make it out to the public without any major bugs.
These are not USB devices. They don't work in USB sockets. They plug into your television.
So, your contention is that a computer in the form-factor of a usb stick can not be a full-fledged computer if you add a usb port to the design? You realize that doesn't pass the laugh-test right? Nor does it pass the existence test of the Dell thumb PC which does have a USB port.
Even the PS3 jailbreak required the PS3 to hack itself, due to poor programming. The processing wasn't done on the usb stick.
At this point I am now convinced you don't have a fuckin clue how security exploits work. Enjoy your ignorance. It's all you've got.
Sounds apocryphal.
But it sounds like a way to hack a usb device, rather than the computer that hosts it.
It is that precise mechanism by which the PS3 was fully jailbreaked
http://thexploit.com/secnews/ps3-heap-overflow-exploit-explained/
After all, USB sticks don't have much in the way computing power.
Lol, who can take you seriously after such a statement? People are putting entire PC's on usb stick form factors. Dell's got their "thumb PC" google has their chromecast, and there are plenty no-name chinese units too.
Buffer overruns from an input device are trivial to prevent. And even windows does that these days.
That's what we in the security biz call "famous last words."
It's CRIMINALLY STUPID for the USB port to provide any other kind of access by default. It should not give the OS kernel access to media plugged into it. It should CERTAINLY not automatically engage media plugged into it to read it.
There is at least one exploit out there that relies on fragility in the USB firmware - the code that auto-negotiates with a USB device when it gets plugged in, sets up the bus, etc. The exploit works by sending unexpected data (buffer overflow, out-of-range values, etc).
That kind of exploit works even if the OS does not autoplay or even automount.
Coming up on Slashdot, a link to my poorly-written ramblings on my obscure blog of someone you have never heard of.
Ignorant poster is ignorant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Weinstein_(technologist)
That only proves you are a fool. There is no "debit reporting agency".
Yes. indeed, I am a fool for thinking you meant more than just credit reports. I figured you were educated enough to be aware of data brokers who look at spending habits like, where, when and how much you spend. What a fool I was for thinking you were putting on an air of stupidity instead of actually being stupid.
Your local police don't stop crime, they respond to it, and deter some amount of it.
Secret programs don't deter anything.
you have to understand that these developers are not your serfs you can command
Ugh, I hate that sort of extremist straw-man. The developers are working on public projects, that means they are subject to both public praise and public criticism. It is a package deal.
Pictures, or it didn't happen.
Ok, already. Here is a pic she sent me
Since the public record indicates that the vast majority of terrorist attacks that the NSA has helped stopped are overseas, outside the US
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Let it be known that uber-con cold fjord has acknowledged that the NSA's domestic meta-data program (section 215) has stopped zero terrorist attacks inside the US and that the overseas meta-data interception program (section 702) has "helped" to stop one, perhaps two attacks in the US.
215: We Found None
702: Only One, Perhaps Two
It's selfish of you to inflict your view of the world
WTF?
He's done nothing more than you have - post to slashdot. Get off your high horse.
I had an epiphany recently when my niece texted me at 7am.
When I was in college in the 90s, I used to check email without getting out of bed. Because of that, I was a big geek.
She regularly texts people on her phone before she gets out of bed. She's a print and video model in hollywood.
Times really have changed.
This guy is just a bait-and-switch con man like any other before him that have existed throughout history. He just scaled it up a notch by using internet spam techniques and getting people's credit cards.
So, more of a wet fart who used the internet to scale up to the level of a hershey squirt.
Here's a little story about Amazon doing the same thing.
http://slashdot.org/story/07/02/15/1356226/amazon-adjusts-prices-after-sales-error
Some of the details in the Amazon story are missing though:
(1) It was a 2-for-1 sale on DVD box sets where they double-discounted the price of the cheaper DVD set. Some people bought identically priced sets and so paid $0, but a lot of people bought two sets with different prices so they paid the nominal difference.
(2) Amazon corrected the error on the website within hours, but continued shipping some of the orders for up to 4 days later so they clearly knew about the error and still choose to let merchandise ship rather than make the effort to put an internal hold on it.
Information about debit cards are NOT shared with anyone outside of the issuing bank.
I find that impossible to believe when the exact same processing system is used for both credit and debit cards.
Hell, there are even "rewards" programs for visa and mastercard branded debit cards. I think you would be hard pressed to explain how visa can do that without knowing your spending.
http://usa.visa.com/personal/cards/debit/visa_extras.html