Re:So why is Gentoo the right choice for this?
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As a Gentoo MIPS dev, thought I would chime in here to say that I've been quite happy with my Indy (ip22), Octane (ip30), and RaQ2 with Gentoo. I started out with Debian and followed the ML for awhile before hooking up with Gentoo and have been hooked. We have got the art of automation down to the point where it is almost fantastically simple for anyone to create their own cross-dev tool chain up and running. The Indy with the help of tcman has helped tremendously with accelerated X driver for newport. It flies now. You can see his work posted here: http://www.mindwerks.net/~dbehr/newport and talk to him in #gentoo-mips . He even plans to work on the O2(ip32), and eventually the Octane to get an accelerated X driver for it as well. There are some very talented people using all sorts of distributions, tcman just happens to use gentoo among others. What keeps me using Gentoo is the community which has lead me to become a developer and start giving back my spare time, at least what little time the wife lets me. *grin* It has been both a learning experience and fun, and I hope it continues to be that way. I used to test all my work on my machines and basically gave up and let all the grunt work be done on my other more powerful machines via distcc and crossdev tools. I have the Octane running n32 userland with an o64 bit kernel, and to test the other ABIs just open up chroot into o32 userland. It was quite a treat to have KDE running on the Octane (un-accelerated, but still quite useful). Most of the problems that exist with Linux on MIPS based machines are no longer distribution dependent because we all share information so if it doesn't work on Gentoo then it won't work on Debian either.
I'm quite proud of what has been accomplished thus far by all involved. Seeing the detractors make fun, poke, or otherwise look down their noses to Gentoo in general saddens me. Its bigotry, plain and simple. You use the right tool for the right job, granted Gentoo isn't the solution for everything, and it never had that goal. Why let prejudice influence your thoughts, keep an open mind, we are all learning and if you don't like it, stop complaining and start helping. Stop being armchair critics and get off your collective lazy asses and make yourselves useful. (Personal note: This is why some of you will never get it and will be flipping burgers for the rest of your life. Get with the program.)
Ever tried chaning the incomming ports? They can firewall off the default ports, but just find ones that are open and change the ports in your client. bittornado allows you to do so, generally keep it withen 10 port range, say somewhere around 65000. This will also increase your overall throughput from the tracker and your other peers. If they block that, keep changeing that port. Eventually they will have to port block everything, and people will complain enmasse. Remember, even as a student.. you get the IT people to piss off the wrong people, things change. (Hint, find what programs your professor uses, and mimic those port numbers provided you are all on the same network.)
Please qualify that one to me. I personally am really tired of people trying to pass off scalable as some type of buzz word, and yet not back it up. Does it scale exponentially, logarithmically, or linear? In what respect is it scalable to? Sure, it can be REALLY fast if the quantity of hardware under the product scales exponentially, so does the cost. If you want to say something is fast, qualify it by doing a comparison between products on the same hardware setup. Oh wait, Oracle is the same people that said you couldn't do that "benchmarking".
In addition to the fact that being corrected, being posted personal computer Saturday of 10 @16:59 December 06th, from rebelcool of de gustibus non American eastern standard time disputandum section by Michael, you write , mainly as a result of this story of Slashdot which records 10 PC on that of all times which "Houston Silverman corrected. He X system why was not in the list of the position of Y, but you lecture, in addition. The fact that the Newton of Apple is exchanged "with Amiga A1000 was chosen in large number of the response which is written on him who is thought in doubt
I have the same problem, iTunes crashes with a "do you want to send MS a bug report". I was willing to dual-boot into winXP just to try out an Apple endorsed product, shame on me. At least xmms and mod_mp3 (plug tangent.org) works for me.
in there to a replace all for the world "hide" once those are blank (leave the , marks... just remove the "hide" part) you can go into control panel and do add/remove windows componants. That's how I was able to get snmp loaded on Win2k Professional. It also lists COM+ componants and other fun stuff.
I work for Logistics Information and as a part of our job is to track past and present government contracts via RFQ, NSSN, and Cage codes. Some of them have been archived in Punch cards with embedded microfiche with Hollerith data. We read them in with an Aperture Card Read from Contex which cost a pretty penny. 12 Grand to be exact and very time consuming. Try 70 cards an hour. Now imagine a couple of cabinets filled with those little cards. We are currently trying to take all that data off the cards and put online, but takes forever to do. These probably were most effecient at the time they were used, but now there is a real push to get these in another format for easier archival purposes. My recommendation to anyone wishing to continue this fine tradition of making these cards... it is more effecient and less costly to go with another method, but if you insist on doing so... at least PUNCH them. I've run across thousands of cards that has great fiche data on it, but no Hollerith data on it at all. It one thing when your machine can't read the data, its quite another when there is NO data. Guess I'll go back to the machine and feed it another 70 cards and pray it doesn't eat them.
It is illegal for any US agency to have a computer on the internet that is Classified or higher. This means, no connection of any kind. No firewall, no serial link, no lan connection... these are all intranet with no access to the outside world. But this wont stop people from going at Troop Deployment Modules and preventing out troops from arriving on time in a set destination or slowing down our "online" bank transactions. Hell, with the Swiss Bank going online, there is fear that people might try to evade the IRS by doing a few transactions via the Swiss Bank. -- Psi
MS's busy lawyers? Thats some funny stuff... I'm sure BG would love to invest more time and money into his empire so it doesn't get thrown around in courts. He has money, he will buy lawyers, he will probly go out golfing with Clinton again.
Well, that may be the cause and all the work they put into linux will be open source. But they will make the standards their way and own rights to them. They would then sit on the those standards and not upgrade/bugfix tell someone comes up with something. This no doubt will be hard to MS to accomplish but I have no doubt in my mind that MS has a section devoted to Linux and how they can use it to their benefit. Another spin off would be that they would accept it and just sponge money of the linux community. No matter how much you bash MS they are still high up on the ladder and they have the bucks. We are going to see Linux grow bigger than life in the next few years so dont be supprised if everyone has their own distro of Linux. I do fear that MS might dumb it down to the point where even our grandma's might use it. tsk tsk tsk
Even though the page turned out to be a hoax. Just think, why wouldn't MS make their own Linux distro? Have you all read the Halloween papers. They discribed how they where going to bring linux to its knees. Take it as their own, make so many new standards with it that the people that program linux for the love can't keep up. With that, they could then sit on top of linux and not let anyone have their way because the standards are theirs. Kinda puts a damper on everything doesn't it.
After reading the URLs posted in this article, Microsoft has stopped Win64 for alpha chips... not Merced. So I fall to understand the reasoning for the "However, contrary to prior reports, Windows does boot and run on the engineering prototype. ". Contrary to what reports? That article had nothing to do with Win64 running under Intel's Merced.
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As a Gentoo MIPS dev, thought I would chime in here to say that I've been quite happy with my Indy (ip22), Octane (ip30), and RaQ2 with Gentoo. I started out with Debian and followed the ML for awhile before hooking up with Gentoo and have been hooked. We have got the art of automation down to the point where it is almost fantastically simple for anyone to create their own cross-dev tool chain up and running. The Indy with the help of tcman has helped tremendously with accelerated X driver for newport. It flies now. You can see his work posted here: http://www.mindwerks.net/~dbehr/newport and talk to him in #gentoo-mips . He even plans to work on the O2(ip32), and eventually the Octane to get an accelerated X driver for it as well. There are some very talented people using all sorts of distributions, tcman just happens to use gentoo among others. What keeps me using Gentoo is the community which has lead me to become a developer and start giving back my spare time, at least what little time the wife lets me. *grin* It has been both a learning experience and fun, and I hope it continues to be that way. I used to test all my work on my machines and basically gave up and let all the grunt work be done on my other more powerful machines via distcc and crossdev tools. I have the Octane running n32 userland with an o64 bit kernel, and to test the other ABIs just open up chroot into o32 userland. It was quite a treat to have KDE running on the Octane (un-accelerated, but still quite useful). Most of the problems that exist with Linux on MIPS based machines are no longer distribution dependent because we all share information so if it doesn't work on Gentoo then it won't work on Debian either.
I'm quite proud of what has been accomplished thus far by all involved. Seeing the detractors make fun, poke, or otherwise look down their noses to Gentoo in general saddens me. Its bigotry, plain and simple. You use the right tool for the right job, granted Gentoo isn't the solution for everything, and it never had that goal. Why let prejudice influence your thoughts, keep an open mind, we are all learning and if you don't like it, stop complaining and start helping. Stop being armchair critics and get off your collective lazy asses and make yourselves useful. (Personal note: This is why some of you will never get it and will be flipping burgers for the rest of your life. Get with the program.)
Ever tried chaning the incomming ports? They can firewall off the default ports, but just find ones that are open and change the ports in your client. bittornado allows you to do so, generally keep it withen 10 port range, say somewhere around 65000. This will also increase your overall throughput from the tracker and your other peers. If they block that, keep changeing that port. Eventually they will have to port block everything, and people will complain enmasse. Remember, even as a student.. you get the IT people to piss off the wrong people, things change. (Hint, find what programs your professor uses, and mimic those port numbers provided you are all on the same network.)
How do you get scalable speed?
Please qualify that one to me. I personally am really tired of people trying to pass off scalable as some type of buzz word, and yet not back it up. Does it scale exponentially, logarithmically, or linear? In what respect is it scalable to? Sure, it can be REALLY fast if the quantity of hardware under the product scales exponentially, so does the cost. If you want to say something is fast, qualify it by doing a comparison between products on the same hardware setup. Oh wait, Oracle is the same people that said you couldn't do that "benchmarking".
Hey Darl, stick this in your pipe and smoke it!
In addition to the fact that being corrected, being posted personal computer Saturday of 10 @16:59 December 06th, from rebelcool of de gustibus non American eastern standard time disputandum section by Michael, you write , mainly as a result of this story of Slashdot which records 10 PC on that of all times which "Houston Silverman corrected. He X system why was not in the list of the position of Y, but you lecture, in addition. The fact that the Newton of Apple is exchanged "with Amiga A1000 was chosen in large number of the response which is written on him who is thought in doubt
I have the same problem, iTunes crashes with a "do you want to send MS a bug report". I was willing to dual-boot into winXP just to try out an Apple endorsed product, shame on me. At least xmms and mod_mp3 (plug tangent.org) works for me.
Hilary Rosen [SMTP:hrosen@riaa.com] Does this help at all? *evil grin*
It works in win2k and winXP,
/winnt/inf/sysoc.inf
in there to a replace all for the world "hide"
once those are blank (leave the , marks... just remove the "hide" part) you can go into control panel and do add/remove windows componants. That's how I was able to get snmp loaded on Win2k Professional. It also lists COM+ componants and other fun stuff.
I work for Logistics Information and as a part of our job is to track past and present government contracts via RFQ, NSSN, and Cage codes. Some of them have been archived in Punch cards with embedded microfiche with Hollerith data. We read them in with an Aperture Card Read from Contex which cost a pretty penny. 12 Grand to be exact and very time consuming. Try 70 cards an hour. Now imagine a couple of cabinets filled with those little cards. We are currently trying to take all that data off the cards and put online, but takes forever to do. These probably were most effecient at the time they were used, but now there is a real push to get these in another format for easier archival purposes. My recommendation to anyone wishing to continue this fine tradition of making these cards... it is more effecient and less costly to go with another method, but if you insist on doing so... at least PUNCH them. I've run across thousands of cards that has great fiche data on it, but no Hollerith data on it at all. It one thing when your machine can't read the data, its quite another when there is NO data. Guess I'll go back to the machine and feed it another 70 cards and pray it doesn't eat them.
It is illegal for any US agency to have a computer on the internet that is Classified or higher. This means, no connection of any kind. No firewall, no serial link, no lan connection... these are all intranet with no access to the outside world. But this wont stop people from going at Troop Deployment Modules and preventing out troops from arriving on time in a set destination or slowing down our "online" bank transactions. Hell, with the Swiss Bank going online, there is fear that people might try to evade the IRS by doing a few transactions via the Swiss Bank. -- Psi
MS's busy lawyers? Thats some funny stuff... I'm sure BG would love to invest more time and money into his empire so it doesn't get thrown around in courts. He has money, he will buy lawyers, he will probly go out golfing with Clinton again.
Well, that may be the cause and all the work they put into linux will be open source. But they will make the standards their way and own rights to them. They would then sit on the those standards and not upgrade/bugfix tell someone comes up with something. This no doubt will be hard to MS to accomplish but I have no doubt in my mind that MS has a section devoted to Linux and how they can use it to their benefit. Another spin off would be that they would accept it and just sponge money of the linux community. No matter how much you bash MS they are still high up on the ladder and they have the bucks. We are going to see Linux grow bigger than life in the next few years so dont be supprised if everyone has their own distro of Linux. I do fear that MS might dumb it down to the point where even our grandma's might use it. tsk tsk tsk
Even though the page turned out to be a hoax. Just think, why wouldn't MS make their own Linux distro? Have you all read the Halloween papers. They discribed how they where going to bring linux to its knees. Take it as their own, make so many new standards with it that the people that program linux for the love can't keep up. With that, they could then sit on top of linux and not let anyone have their way because the standards are theirs. Kinda puts a damper on everything doesn't it.
After reading the URLs posted in this article, Microsoft has stopped Win64 for alpha chips... not Merced. So I fall to understand the reasoning for the "However, contrary to prior reports, Windows does boot and run on the engineering prototype. ". Contrary to what reports? That article had nothing to do with Win64 running under Intel's Merced.