When I ask if they could part with some of the stuff to help us skip steps 1-3 above, they always give a uniform NO. It doesn't matter what NDA we've signed or a if we are willing to take the code stripped of features and with no warranty.down.
Need an explanation for this behavior on the part of your vendor? See average Unix/Linux geek's attitude towards intellectual property as expressed here on Slashdot.
What is funny is how little ppl seem to remember from just 7 years ago. Sun actually ported to X86 once before AND "opened" their source code. Then when they thought that things were going well, they dropped it. If Sun ever feels like things are going in their favor, it is almost certain that they will do it again.
I won't be the only one, but I just thought I'd point out that the license they are using this time around is quite different, and they literally cannot take away your right to use the code once you've got it. You might read the (OSI-approved) license before spouting off, although I know that is asking a lot.
Sadly, that might not necessarily be the case - OpenDarwin has been around for five years and you still need a Darwin system [including some non-free tools] to bootstrap the build.
There are a number of different OpenSolaris-based projects in the works which will probably allieviate this. My money is on SchilliX being ready first.
When things like the 'dad' & 'uata' (IDE drivers), and 'todsg' drivers are still in the closed source tarballs, I'm not hopeful for the 'open'ness of 'opensolaris' (Come on, they can't release drivers for their own hardware clocks?! (todsg))
If you had looked at their roadmap you'd see that there is more coming...
Please create a ponzi scheme to sell routers like yours on the internet. For $19.95!!!
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But deploying technology to rewrite peoples' brains in order to suppress a class of destructive behavior starts down a very slippery slope.
Worse than that, when you try to get close enough to them to put on the psychopathy-removal brain-rewriter nanohelmet, Republicans get squirrely and call you a fag.
"by the time Apple has fully gone to Intel processors" as a unit of measurement for time? It reminds me of my old friend who used to use microwave ovens as a unit of measurement for height and width.
Second, no, it doesn't change the story at all. The notion of a Stanford grad student trying to license a trivial technology to Microsoft is just as silly as the notion of "stealing" a trivial technology.
I guess the comments in that thread tell a lot about what long time customers of Plextor think at the moment.
No. Long time customers of Plextor will continue buying Plextor equipment, since it is generally the best, and those long-time customers value quality above all else. When you see stuff like "my next drive will be a BenQ, not a plextor!" you are not dealing with a statement representative of the loyal Plextor buyer. BenQ, ffs...
As always, the correct approach is for everyone worried about this to send polite emails to Plextor corporate.
I really need to just write a position paper some day that I can cut and paste when this topic comes up.
If you do end up writing that paper, you really ought to consider sending it to the gamasutra/Game Developer Magazine people for publication. It would be very valuable, as the IP Nazis have been well represented there the last year or so.
The machines I personally own and use, including 3 of the Intel-based boxes in that list, don't have a single copy of Windows between them.
You're an outlier and a freak. Which is fine, really, but don't act as if 99.9% of the computer users out there don't have easy access to a copy of windows...
Why? What point are you trying to make? That calling a Windows box a "game system" if you use it to play games on is unreasonable? That the copy of XP Home that comes with a $400 PC is really free, and not just bundled?
The "point" I was "trying" to "make" had to do with the English "language" and the "abuse" thereof.
That's because I've only bought two Intel-based computers as systems. The rest were bought in pieces. You want me to expand that to "Biostar U8068 + $20 case/power supply +...", and break out the whole thing?
Actually, I don't care what you do. It just cracks me up that you obsessive-compulsively spent so many words trying to say something very simple, "some people build their own systems and don't have a copy of windows." (There, that was a more or less correct use of quotes. You're welcome.)
Of course, if you had simply said that instead of obfuscating the issue with your absurd list, it would have been immediately apparent that "some people" (oooh, another correct use of quotes! you're learning, aren't you?) refers to a tiny little fraction of the user population, and so the point you were trying to make was pretty weak.
I do have a Windows laptop provided by work, and I've done some development on that, but I didn't get the copies of Windows on our "game" machines for "free" with the computer.
Believe it or not, your use of "quotes" here inhibits whatever sort of "point" you were trying to make.
Interesting that you list computer systems and motherboards in the same list, as if they were the same thing.
But in order to port to windows you need to own a windows box
Unless you're one of those rare folks who jumped through the hoops required to return the license of windows that came with your computer... you've got it.
and a suitable compiler,
Use cygwin, or maybe just mingw.
Also, unless you use things like cygwin, your app which compiles and runs on multiple unixes quite happily will require extensive modification to run on windows, the graphical interface especially is very different from X11..
So... Use cygwin, or maybe just mingw.
Also, even if you do use cygwin you will often encounter lots of strange bugs.. As an example, i wrote a program that worked correctly on linux, bsd, aix, irix, sunos, solaris, tru64 etc faultlessly, and would often stay running as long as the machine did.. when i ported it to cygwin, i got random data corruption on files and sockets, problems with locked files, problems with the lack of case sensitivity.. I'm not sure if these bugs are caused by cygwin, windows or both..
Portability requires some effort. Life sucks. Wear a hat.
Oh, sure. Determining that something is not revolutionary is easy. I was commenting on the difficulty of determining that an idea is revolutionary. Not so easy, until the idea is actually implemented.
The way I see it, your IP is becoming more and more like your phone number. It's part of who you are and we're fast approaching the day that the two will be essentials for anyone living anywhere in the world.
Right. That is why such a huge number of users have static IP addresses...
Anyone who uses a Mac, or Linux, or any other OS that's not Windows, almost certainly has made an informed decision to do so based on harsh experience with Microsoft's crap.
Or based on half-truths and propaganda concerning security and stability, from a lot of what I read around here...
There was clear evidence of contributory negligence on the part of McDonald's
You realize that all the people who thought that case was stupid, absurd shit point and laugh at you when you say stupid, absurd shit like that, right?
OMG THEY KNEW THE COFFEE WAS HOT AND PEOPLE COULD BE BURNED!
Reports also indicate that McDonald's consistently keeps its coffee at 185 degrees, still approximately 20 degrees hotter than at other restaurants.
The ideal temperature for brewing coffee is just under the boiling point, you want it as hot as possible without "burning" it, something unfortunately not possible at home given the low power of most of our coffee makers, unless you buy a pretty exotic one. It shouldn't be left sitting around long before serving, either.
I realize that it's a false dichotomy since we're talking about McDonald's coffee, but still, there is a tension between having good, fresh coffee on the one hand, and accomodating the amazingly stupid people who can't be expected to hold a cup properly on the other. Most places accomodate the stupid people, since they're obviously a pretty big chunk of the population. But still, it's a shame.
Third degree burns occur at this temperature in just two to seven seconds, requiring skin grafting, debridement and whirlpool treatments that cost tens of thousands of dollars and result in permanent disfigurement, extreme pain and disability to the victims for many months, and in some cases, years.
The fallacy here is that you're going to transfer the heat to flesh at all efficiently by splashing the liquid over it, such that the flesh will reach the same temperature as the fluid. Hopefully the average Slashdot reader sees the BS here.
It is really just a shame that our society is being shaped to accomodate the stupid, boring people in so many areas and so many ways. They ought to stay at home where they won't get hurt, eat their TV dinners and avoid sharp objects and dangerous ideas.
It all comes down to, if you are in the business of dealing with materials you know are hazerdous (as was proven in the case, McDonalds knew the coffee was hazerdous), you are responsible for selling such materials in a safe maner because the consumer expects you to do so.
We've really dumbed down the definition of "hazardous", haven't we? Stay off those stairs! They are hazardous!
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Need an explanation for this behavior on the part of your vendor? See average Unix/Linux geek's attitude towards intellectual property as expressed here on Slashdot.
I won't be the only one, but I just thought I'd point out that the license they are using this time around is quite different, and they literally cannot take away your right to use the code once you've got it. You might read the (OSI-approved) license before spouting off, although I know that is asking a lot.
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/licensing/
There are a number of different OpenSolaris-based projects in the works which will probably allieviate this. My money is on SchilliX being ready first.
If you had looked at their roadmap you'd see that there is more coming...
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/roadmap/
Please create a ponzi scheme to sell routers like yours on the internet. For $19.95!!!
Worse than that, when you try to get close enough to them to put on the psychopathy-removal brain-rewriter nanohelmet, Republicans get squirrely and call you a fag.
"by the time Apple has fully gone to Intel processors" as a unit of measurement for time? It reminds me of my old friend who used to use microwave ovens as a unit of measurement for height and width.
First, what the fuck are you quoting?
Second, no, it doesn't change the story at all. The notion of a Stanford grad student trying to license a trivial technology to Microsoft is just as silly as the notion of "stealing" a trivial technology.
You're right, corporations like TI are far too kind to children. WTF?!?!
I wouldn't go so far as the call the brother the worlds biggest computer hacker. He's got a weight problem. What the nigger gonna do? He's Samoan.
Well, that is a little defeatist.
No. Long time customers of Plextor will continue buying Plextor equipment, since it is generally the best, and those long-time customers value quality above all else. When you see stuff like "my next drive will be a BenQ, not a plextor!" you are not dealing with a statement representative of the loyal Plextor buyer. BenQ, ffs...
As always, the correct approach is for everyone worried about this to send polite emails to Plextor corporate.
If you do end up writing that paper, you really ought to consider sending it to the gamasutra/Game Developer Magazine people for publication. It would be very valuable, as the IP Nazis have been well represented there the last year or so.
Yeah, seriously, what the fuck. It's not like they went to the Moon or anything.
You're an outlier and a freak. Which is fine, really, but don't act as if 99.9% of the computer users out there don't have easy access to a copy of windows...
The "point" I was "trying" to "make" had to do with the English "language" and the "abuse" thereof.
Actually, I don't care what you do. It just cracks me up that you obsessive-compulsively spent so many words trying to say something very simple, "some people build their own systems and don't have a copy of windows." (There, that was a more or less correct use of quotes. You're welcome.)
Of course, if you had simply said that instead of obfuscating the issue with your absurd list, it would have been immediately apparent that "some people" (oooh, another correct use of quotes! you're learning, aren't you?) refers to a tiny little fraction of the user population, and so the point you were trying to make was pretty weak.
Believe it or not, your use of "quotes" here inhibits whatever sort of "point" you were trying to make.
Interesting that you list computer systems and motherboards in the same list, as if they were the same thing.
Unless you're one of those rare folks who jumped through the hoops required to return the license of windows that came with your computer... you've got it.
Use cygwin, or maybe just mingw.
So... Use cygwin, or maybe just mingw.
Portability requires some effort. Life sucks. Wear a hat.
Oh, sure. Determining that something is not revolutionary is easy. I was commenting on the difficulty of determining that an idea is revolutionary. Not so easy, until the idea is actually implemented.
Yeah, that has worked out so well for HURD.
Right. That is why such a huge number of users have static IP addresses...
Wow, too bad that's utterly subjective and impossible to determine before the patent is awarded.
Good idea, grasshopper.
Or based on half-truths and propaganda concerning security and stability, from a lot of what I read around here...
You realize that all the people who thought that case was stupid, absurd shit point and laugh at you when you say stupid, absurd shit like that, right?
OMG THEY KNEW THE COFFEE WAS HOT AND PEOPLE COULD BE BURNED!
The ideal temperature for brewing coffee is just under the boiling point, you want it as hot as possible without "burning" it, something unfortunately not possible at home given the low power of most of our coffee makers, unless you buy a pretty exotic one. It shouldn't be left sitting around long before serving, either.
I realize that it's a false dichotomy since we're talking about McDonald's coffee, but still, there is a tension between having good, fresh coffee on the one hand, and accomodating the amazingly stupid people who can't be expected to hold a cup properly on the other. Most places accomodate the stupid people, since they're obviously a pretty big chunk of the population. But still, it's a shame.
The fallacy here is that you're going to transfer the heat to flesh at all efficiently by splashing the liquid over it, such that the flesh will reach the same temperature as the fluid. Hopefully the average Slashdot reader sees the BS here.
It is really just a shame that our society is being shaped to accomodate the stupid, boring people in so many areas and so many ways. They ought to stay at home where they won't get hurt, eat their TV dinners and avoid sharp objects and dangerous ideas.
We've really dumbed down the definition of "hazardous", haven't we? Stay off those stairs! They are hazardous!