Straw-man. Unlike the aggressor, the people are average and live average lives with average incomes. Unlike the aggressor, there is not an endless coffer from which to resupply. When the choice is to eat, or to fight an uncertain battle, the fallout is far from surprising.
Holy crap, batman.. Does it ever occur to you that if you don't have a clear path to income from your work, is that your work is absolutely worthless to everyone but you? You are not entitled. In fact, if you ever want me to read your crap, I'm going to go ahead and ask that you pay me for my time.
Thank god they don't! Otherwise precious time would be wasted in trying to resolve what isn't the source of the problem. Explain why treating a symptom is your recipie for a solution?
Gun laws do nothing in making it harder for "fucking lunatics" to posess. There in lies the logical fallacy. It makes it for "fucking normal people" harder to posess, which is incidentily the root of the problem. It would have taken one normal individual to stop this idiot.
Are you ignoring the point deliberatly or by accident? Yes *I'm* in a position to make the choice, because I'm *aware* of what's happening (and I have, I'm dumping Ubuntu, that fate is sealed by this action). This does not apply to the majority of users of Ubuntu. Users, not consumers.
You are attempting to redifine the purpose of an OS. The computer is mine, the hardware is mine, so what I type into it, is for me, and me alone, and a system as vital as an OS has no business interfering or augmenting this in any way. Ubuntu has not business sending anything anywhere without my explicit request. It's not their machine, nor is it their internet connection. It's non-of-their-fucking-business, period. This is amountingto tresspassing on my property. Unacceptable. If they wish to provide cloud accessibility and other fancy bells and wistles, that's fine, there's a standard route for enabling that, like with any other software, without pissing into the swimming pool.
As for your remark in regards to RMS, clearly you have not been around for the past 30 years.
What needs to stop is this attitude of apathy towards having everything about you and your mother be accessible to every corporation. Corporations have yet to prove this provides us, the users, with any substantial value. So far they rake in the cash, so it's great for them, but it's becoming increasingly unsafe to lead a normal life. How many more times do the authorities have to take something out of context and persecute innocent people before you wake up? This non-sense about not including personal details isn't going to cut it, a single bit is already too much. What needs to stop is the underhanded tacktics that are in clear opposition to the spirit of the intent of Free Software. There is no scenario you can convince me of that isn't grossly unethical save for a deliberate opt-in by the user.
Their biggest mistake is to think they are a leader. In a decentralized environment such as Free Software, the best you can do is be a local warlord.
Umm... you're deliberatly submitting your search to google, a 3rd entity. Nice strawman, but it does not follow the same principles. People like you shold stop labeling this as "thinking like geeks" because it has nothing to do with it. It's a smear at best to derail the issue. But that was probably your intent in the first place, wasn't it? Shill.
You should not have to disable anything. On the contrary, this "feature" should be deliberatly enabled by the user. No one is arguing over the triviality of how to disable it. You said it yourself, this is a distribution that works out of the box. It stands to reason that the majority of its users do not understand the issue nor its implications. Therefore it's plausible that they will not be able to recognize the real need to disable this "feature". This put's Ubuntu against the spirit of the entire community within which they've setup shop. No one here is really arguing that Ubuntu should not be free to operate as they see fit to make a profit, however, they are now stepping on the toes of the giants on which they are shouldered. A completely dickhead attitude that isn't going to lend them any credit for the spirit of freedom.
Alright, I've made a mistake. It happens. Sorry. I honestly thought you were the same AC. And if you "kind of agree" then you've missed the point. I never stated that it's the only thing that separates us. It's a reference to the entierty of culture, so nit-picking on that statement really seems bizzare to me, and shallow.
Again, it's NOT just semantics, and saying it over and over isn't going to change that. Your definition of depravation is conflated with intent, which had been shown to not correlate statistically. Pirates, in general pay for what they like, they just want to know what they're spending their money on. There is no such thing as "rightfully earned income". You have the right to create whatever you want, and I have the right to not value it at all. In fact I can ask you to pay me to look at it, if I so choose. When you rely on a law to force others to provide you with income, then what that really means is that what you provide is worthless otherwise. On the flip side, people still pay good money to go to concerts, to watch movies, and shows. Why? Because they value it, and they do not have to be forced to pay, they do it on their own accord.
So no, it's not the same thing. Not by a long shot.
"decent gun-control" What exactly, to your mind, does that mean?
Because being stabbed or bludgeoned is somehow more preferable??
It's not so much a 'pro-gun' lobby, it's mainly an 'anti-leave-me-defensless' lobby. Some of us like the idea of being ready for a rainy day.
Sutpid people are stupid, news at 11 :).
To be fair boxers do go crazy.
These values aren't strictly religious. They are human values.
Then please stop telling me I have no morals.
Psychopathy is a mental illness, it's a dysfunction of certain regions of the brain. Lack of empathy is a clear indicator of the malfunction.
Straw-man. Unlike the aggressor, the people are average and live average lives with average incomes. Unlike the aggressor, there is not an endless coffer from which to resupply. When the choice is to eat, or to fight an uncertain battle, the fallout is far from surprising.
It's about greed. The only reason you don't see that is because you're paid not to.
Holy crap, batman.. Does it ever occur to you that if you don't have a clear path to income from your work, is that your work is absolutely worthless to everyone but you? You are not entitled. In fact, if you ever want me to read your crap, I'm going to go ahead and ask that you pay me for my time.
Care to elaborate? Because currently this is a completely usless attempt at a rebutal without any substance.
Are you talking about actual compilers or the IDE?
If you bothered reading what people are posting, you'd realize that this is not what the concern is.
Whatever you are smoking, stop, it's really hurting your brain cells.
I'd definately have a desire for where the next bullet should fly...
Thank god they don't! Otherwise precious time would be wasted in trying to resolve what isn't the source of the problem. Explain why treating a symptom is your recipie for a solution?
Oh ffs, I'm not from your country nor am I conservative, and you're full of shit.
Gun laws do nothing in making it harder for "fucking lunatics" to posess. There in lies the logical fallacy. It makes it for "fucking normal people" harder to posess, which is incidentily the root of the problem. It would have taken one normal individual to stop this idiot.
Are you ignoring the point deliberatly or by accident? Yes *I'm* in a position to make the choice, because I'm *aware* of what's happening (and I have, I'm dumping Ubuntu, that fate is sealed by this action). This does not apply to the majority of users of Ubuntu. Users, not consumers.
You are attempting to redifine the purpose of an OS. The computer is mine, the hardware is mine, so what I type into it, is for me, and me alone, and a system as vital as an OS has no business interfering or augmenting this in any way. Ubuntu has not business sending anything anywhere without my explicit request. It's not their machine, nor is it their internet connection. It's non-of-their-fucking-business, period. This is amountingto tresspassing on my property. Unacceptable. If they wish to provide cloud accessibility and other fancy bells and wistles, that's fine, there's a standard route for enabling that, like with any other software, without pissing into the swimming pool.
As for your remark in regards to RMS, clearly you have not been around for the past 30 years.
What needs to stop is this attitude of apathy towards having everything about you and your mother be accessible to every corporation. Corporations have yet to prove this provides us, the users, with any substantial value. So far they rake in the cash, so it's great for them, but it's becoming increasingly unsafe to lead a normal life. How many more times do the authorities have to take something out of context and persecute innocent people before you wake up? This non-sense about not including personal details isn't going to cut it, a single bit is already too much. What needs to stop is the underhanded tacktics that are in clear opposition to the spirit of the intent of Free Software. There is no scenario you can convince me of that isn't grossly unethical save for a deliberate opt-in by the user.
Their biggest mistake is to think they are a leader. In a decentralized environment such as Free Software, the best you can do is be a local warlord.
Umm... you're deliberatly submitting your search to google, a 3rd entity. Nice strawman, but it does not follow the same principles. People like you shold stop labeling this as "thinking like geeks" because it has nothing to do with it. It's a smear at best to derail the issue. But that was probably your intent in the first place, wasn't it? Shill.
The point is that they're marketing to the uninformed masses, without informing them of it.
You should not have to disable anything. On the contrary, this "feature" should be deliberatly enabled by the user. No one is arguing over the triviality of how to disable it. You said it yourself, this is a distribution that works out of the box. It stands to reason that the majority of its users do not understand the issue nor its implications. Therefore it's plausible that they will not be able to recognize the real need to disable this "feature". This put's Ubuntu against the spirit of the entire community within which they've setup shop. No one here is really arguing that Ubuntu should not be free to operate as they see fit to make a profit, however, they are now stepping on the toes of the giants on which they are shouldered. A completely dickhead attitude that isn't going to lend them any credit for the spirit of freedom.
What you say is true, but is not related to this topic.
Alright, I've made a mistake. It happens. Sorry. I honestly thought you were the same AC. And if you "kind of agree" then you've missed the point. I never stated that it's the only thing that separates us. It's a reference to the entierty of culture, so nit-picking on that statement really seems bizzare to me, and shallow.
Again, it's NOT just semantics, and saying it over and over isn't going to change that. Your definition of depravation is conflated with intent, which had been shown to not correlate statistically. Pirates, in general pay for what they like, they just want to know what they're spending their money on. There is no such thing as "rightfully earned income". You have the right to create whatever you want, and I have the right to not value it at all. In fact I can ask you to pay me to look at it, if I so choose. When you rely on a law to force others to provide you with income, then what that really means is that what you provide is worthless otherwise. On the flip side, people still pay good money to go to concerts, to watch movies, and shows. Why? Because they value it, and they do not have to be forced to pay, they do it on their own accord.
So no, it's not the same thing. Not by a long shot.