Sure, the distributor is stupid for having a bad site (or not using better technology)
This is where the whole argument just falls apart. See, the simplest solution would be to set up the distribution (in this case) as a torrent. Those who'd want to get an estimate of downloads should only start a download themselves to see how many sources come up. I'm not sure what the limits of this would be though. This method is almost the perfect google task, but they can't grasp the available resources. They should hire some kids that run linux servers outta their "box"s or something.
Hmm... it seems the baby boomers up top don't know what world they live in.
Sorry to burst your bubble, Linux can sell. In fact, it is selling as we speak.
I also recall an anti-trust lawsuit some time ago. Before you insult people, please ensure that you know what you are saying to the poor chap.
Thirdly, because I just must, no one needs microsoft. Yes, they provide some obscure tools to do the job, that doesn't say anything about *who* would need these tools. When you blur peoples' perceptions as much as they have, and for so long, it's relatively easy to keep most populations (that know nothing of the issues to begin with) unaware that there's another choice. I suspect your thinking hasn't moved far from calling your browser "the computer", and that's only because of your lin-sucks remark. linux is just another tool, and despite what you say, its use is growing, and m$ is threatened.
I think you missed his point... All of the points he made is what an uninformed person might think when you tell him to get a mac. Windows users think that crashes are normal, and all work is tedious. Ironically, it's a side effect of using windows. Go figure.
Really? I think he doged questions quite a bit and it left me with a sickening FUD gut feeling. For instance, the scenerio he was presented by the enterviewee is of having a debian cd, buying a new computer, installing debian. done. Can't do that with windows. He started off about RedHat, in his corporate environment where the same thing happens for servers. Now he could be just ignorant of the fact that hardly anyone, save an enterprize, would choose an enterprize distro, but hello... answer the question, what's the problem with using windows cds to install windows AT HOME?? Makes me very uneasy.
Thankfully, to get to where we did is a far more involved process than the adaptations the experiments have shown. I wouldn't worry about any of that, and certainly would recommend that you treat your "phobia" as a superstision. No amount of computer power can replicate the "life experiment". It's an entierly different environment to begin with, and it doesn't have the capacity to acount for everything that has to happen in order to facilitate human intelligence.
It's also noteworthy that it's not the only aspect they concentrated efforts on. As I recall from the artical, they also created the "lifeless" environment with all the componenets necessary for the kick start. I think that it's more significant research as it will allow us to see what happens for ourselves. As an aside, don't you at least think, that the design could be toned down, as well as enhanced? Or perhaps it could mimic something that already exists, in which case "the design" is mearly a translation by an inteligent creature, rather than a creation?
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Well, the answer is twofold. I'm 21, and that leaves me at best a good two years of being the person that I am. Besides, life just didn't cary me that way. I've not met the "people" nor been to the "places", persued other interests.
I didn't mean to give the wrong impression about the ease of their position. However, given all the unecessary legal hastle over the past decade, I'm inclined to think that they're bored with their current occupation, and prefer to spend their resources elsewhere.
My "observation" is not the analogy you interperted. I *am* doing something. Those dishes will be used for something helpful. I don't mind doing it. I get my pay, and that helps me move along until I can program for a living. In fact I have absolutely no interest in managment. In this context, I find it hard to understand what it is you're asking.
Laugh tho they may, it's an argument of perception. I'm not going to bother with such nonsense. And I will not claim that there are no good people hard at work. The one that sits on top however isn't showing his good faith today.
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I think the point of it all is that at the end of it all, you don't know who you're paying, or for what.
I don't mind buying a CD, or a game, for instance. Have done so many times. But after all this buying, I question the price tag. The development of the product (music, software, etc...) has long ago been payed for. That's how it got to be on the shelf in the first place. To say that people are being robbed of a living at this point sounds a bit like playing on a moral individual's guilt instinct at best.
I would also like to argue that an industry that thrives on distribution, pays the same price for it that we do. It's practically negligible to them. They may put a bit more effort into it, and essentially "guarantee" quality, but, then again, after that work is done, it's strait mass reproduction, which I'm sure is automated. The sheer quantity produced thereafter is what makes the individual product's cost so low.
So where does this bring me? Like I said, I don't mind paying, but there is a threshold. The effort alone to obtain any material (copyrighted or not) more than pays for the product. Now who should I give my money to? Either way you look at it, all of "their" copyrighted stuff is out there. People generally KNOW who made what film/album/program. Not one file I came across was claimed to be made by someone other than the original author. I mean that to the effect of "MSWord". It's actually pretty obvious.
What's really sickening me is that the collectors of the distribution do pretty much nothing to get paid, while I'm washing dishes. It seems almost as if this select group of people are always trying to get in my face (because they KNOW there are other sources) so that I couldn't see past them. How many here would eventually punch them if that was the case? Even *if* punching someone is illegal? And as far as the original artist, give me a break, they never see a dime.
What we have on our hands are a couple of serious leeches that attached themselves to the natural flow of things. But like most parasites, if the host's immune system is able to deal with it, it will eventually dry up, and fall off.
I feel that what these companies are doing is just crying, because they can't get to their $$ the same, easy way they are used to, and it's getting harder for them by the minute.
So a Pretty GUI is the beall/endall? Comon, linux functions on many layers, and a GUI is only one of them. Yes.. it lags behind your precious Darwin (of which I'm fond of, of course). But that's hardly an obsticle for the OS itself.
Um... yes, why indeed would anyone at all bother using linux. You have a flawd perception as to what linux is. Besides it being only a kernel (which isn't even the point here), it is, from the perspective of many, a highly adaptive system. A GUI, in linux, is NOTHING but a front end. It has a very specialized use. I don't think you'll ever find a linux user (one that actually knows how to use it, that is) that will brag about it's GUI. They probably don't care, and would laugh at the notion. Quit trolling, you obviously don't know what you are talking about.
Thankfully, I already own the patent for "breathing AIR and then extracting oxygen from earth's atmosphere using a pair of lungs." This one's GPL'd though, so breath easy.
Now I'm not one of them, and don't know if I'll ever be, but it's rather odd that they're comparing apples to oranges again. Repeat after me, every task can be accomplished with the appropriate tool. CSS is for Style (in case you forget), what's the point of having it do anything else. XSL (I never used it, so you'd know) FTFA XSL contains loops, conditionals, etc... Hmm... a tool for a DIFFERENT job perhaps? The only things that dissapear are things without purpose. Clearly, that is NOT the case.
I love it. You refer to women as women, but them males get dont even get labled as humans anymore. Bah, language is the only guide here, and perception is the problem. The only diffreneces that exist are HUMAN ones, and whatever chemical our brains get washed by.
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This is where the whole argument just falls apart. See, the simplest solution would be to set up the distribution (in this case) as a torrent. Those who'd want to get an estimate of downloads should only start a download themselves to see how many sources come up. I'm not sure what the limits of this would be though. This method is almost the perfect google task, but they can't grasp the available resources. They should hire some kids that run linux servers outta their "box"s or something.
Hmm... it seems the baby boomers up top don't know what world they live in.
I like Unix, and I hate windows... what would you recommend?
Lol.... "yyeearr... two glass eyes.... *click click*"
curious.... tell me... does a bit carry metadata to tell you its a copy?
I wish I had mod points...
It is a late night.
I also recall an anti-trust lawsuit some time ago. Before you insult people, please ensure that you know what you are saying to the poor chap.
Thirdly, because I just must, no one needs microsoft. Yes, they provide some obscure tools to do the job, that doesn't say anything about *who* would need these tools. When you blur peoples' perceptions as much as they have, and for so long, it's relatively easy to keep most populations (that know nothing of the issues to begin with) unaware that there's another choice. I suspect your thinking hasn't moved far from calling your browser "the computer", and that's only because of your lin-sucks remark. linux is just another tool, and despite what you say, its use is growing, and m$ is threatened.
Never liked those places anyway. (wink wink)
Oh god that's funny... googled up "bastards" and what do I get as the first site... hehehe. Why yes, I am new.
I think you missed his point... All of the points he made is what an uninformed person might think when you tell him to get a mac. Windows users think that crashes are normal, and all work is tedious. Ironically, it's a side effect of using windows. Go figure.
No, I can read PHP, Visual basic distracts me from my code.
Markup, not programming.
Really? I think he doged questions quite a bit and it left me with a sickening FUD gut feeling. For instance, the scenerio he was presented by the enterviewee is of having a debian cd, buying a new computer, installing debian. done. Can't do that with windows. He started off about RedHat, in his corporate environment where the same thing happens for servers. Now he could be just ignorant of the fact that hardly anyone, save an enterprize, would choose an enterprize distro, but hello... answer the question, what's the problem with using windows cds to install windows AT HOME?? Makes me very uneasy.
Thankfully, to get to where we did is a far more involved process than the adaptations the experiments have shown. I wouldn't worry about any of that, and certainly would recommend that you treat your "phobia" as a superstision. No amount of computer power can replicate the "life experiment". It's an entierly different environment to begin with, and it doesn't have the capacity to acount for everything that has to happen in order to facilitate human intelligence.
It's also noteworthy that it's not the only aspect they concentrated efforts on. As I recall from the artical, they also created the "lifeless" environment with all the componenets necessary for the kick start. I think that it's more significant research as it will allow us to see what happens for ourselves. As an aside, don't you at least think, that the design could be toned down, as well as enhanced? Or perhaps it could mimic something that already exists, in which case "the design" is mearly a translation by an inteligent creature, rather than a creation?
Well, the answer is twofold. I'm 21, and that leaves me at best a good two years of being the person that I am. Besides, life just didn't cary me that way. I've not met the "people" nor been to the "places", persued other interests. I didn't mean to give the wrong impression about the ease of their position. However, given all the unecessary legal hastle over the past decade, I'm inclined to think that they're bored with their current occupation, and prefer to spend their resources elsewhere. My "observation" is not the analogy you interperted. I *am* doing something. Those dishes will be used for something helpful. I don't mind doing it. I get my pay, and that helps me move along until I can program for a living. In fact I have absolutely no interest in managment. In this context, I find it hard to understand what it is you're asking. Laugh tho they may, it's an argument of perception. I'm not going to bother with such nonsense. And I will not claim that there are no good people hard at work. The one that sits on top however isn't showing his good faith today.
I think the point of it all is that at the end of it all, you don't know who you're paying, or for what.
I don't mind buying a CD, or a game, for instance. Have done so many times. But after all this buying, I question the price tag. The development of the product (music, software, etc...) has long ago been payed for. That's how it got to be on the shelf in the first place. To say that people are being robbed of a living at this point sounds a bit like playing on a moral individual's guilt instinct at best.
I would also like to argue that an industry that thrives on distribution, pays the same price for it that we do. It's practically negligible to them. They may put a bit more effort into it, and essentially "guarantee" quality, but, then again, after that work is done, it's strait mass reproduction, which I'm sure is automated. The sheer quantity produced thereafter is what makes the individual product's cost so low.
So where does this bring me? Like I said, I don't mind paying, but there is a threshold. The effort alone to obtain any material (copyrighted or not) more than pays for the product. Now who should I give my money to? Either way you look at it, all of "their" copyrighted stuff is out there. People generally KNOW who made what film/album/program. Not one file I came across was claimed to be made by someone other than the original author. I mean that to the effect of "MSWord". It's actually pretty obvious.
What's really sickening me is that the collectors of the distribution do pretty much nothing to get paid, while I'm washing dishes. It seems almost as if this select group of people are always trying to get in my face (because they KNOW there are other sources) so that I couldn't see past them. How many here would eventually punch them if that was the case? Even *if* punching someone is illegal? And as far as the original artist, give me a break, they never see a dime.
What we have on our hands are a couple of serious leeches that attached themselves to the natural flow of things. But like most parasites, if the host's immune system is able to deal with it, it will eventually dry up, and fall off.
I feel that what these companies are doing is just crying, because they can't get to their $$ the same, easy way they are used to, and it's getting harder for them by the minute.
So a Pretty GUI is the beall/endall? Comon, linux functions on many layers, and a GUI is only one of them. Yes.. it lags behind your precious Darwin (of which I'm fond of, of course). But that's hardly an obsticle for the OS itself.
Um... yes, why indeed would anyone at all bother using linux. You have a flawd perception as to what linux is. Besides it being only a kernel (which isn't even the point here), it is, from the perspective of many, a highly adaptive system. A GUI, in linux, is NOTHING but a front end. It has a very specialized use. I don't think you'll ever find a linux user (one that actually knows how to use it, that is) that will brag about it's GUI. They probably don't care, and would laugh at the notion. Quit trolling, you obviously don't know what you are talking about.
Your sig made me giggle.
Hmm... hell, I can just boot the cd for internet. I'm sure it took me less then 15 minutes.
Sounds like you have it all figured out.
Thankfully, I already own the patent for "breathing AIR and then extracting oxygen from earth's atmosphere using a pair of lungs." This one's GPL'd though, so breath easy.
Now I'm not one of them, and don't know if I'll ever be, but it's rather odd that they're comparing apples to oranges again. Repeat after me, every task can be accomplished with the appropriate tool. CSS is for Style (in case you forget), what's the point of having it do anything else. XSL (I never used it, so you'd know) FTFA XSL contains loops, conditionals, etc... Hmm... a tool for a DIFFERENT job perhaps? The only things that dissapear are things without purpose. Clearly, that is NOT the case.
I love it. You refer to women as women, but them males get dont even get labled as humans anymore. Bah, language is the only guide here, and perception is the problem. The only diffreneces that exist are HUMAN ones, and whatever chemical our brains get washed by.