Oh no!!! not the.... god forbidden.... command line... aaaaaaah how do I get rid of this one gateway to all the functionality of my system... how indeed. What are you, on drugs? Please define everything.
Maybe this isn't that important... but whenever I use MSIE to read slashdot, it's at my college. They actually insist on it, and I actually don't really care as long as my site is pulled up. I figure they'll learn the hard way:).
I would imagine that it's a good thing. This way someone with just a little incentive can look at the problem directly and fix it. I bet there are a lot more willing people to do that than use the exploit to do anything harmful. If we get a virus before a fix, I'd be surprized.
dude, if you zoom into the gray area very close, you'll see that all aras are indeed black and white. They're so small and are so closely packed together that the overall effect that you get is one bigger gray area. As usual, it's not really complecated, people just fuss over their own egos.
Interesting peice of information, but rather redundant. All this says is that people in the US are just that... people. Internet use is up, why is everyone always so surprized?
That's nice. A buddy of mine has a law office set up. He uses OpenBSD for a firewall and keeps tight control over all activities. You think that stopped the machines from being 0wned?
What was it he said? Redhat's configuration tools wont work with any other distro? Does anyone think it really matters? I find a text editor will solve any problem.
Are you sure Stalin implemented communism? A personal agenda with propaganda doesn't seem more appropriate? The only downfall of communism is that it is impractical simply because of the cooporation it requires, it's just not possible to achieve when it comes to human beings. Capitalism, on the other hand, plays with the human survival instinct/competition. The catch, of course, your capital is your priority, reguardless of price. All in all, a bit from both would probably be most helpful. Just can't force it on anyone.
I think it is you who is a troll. Yes, the Russian government eventually collapsed, however, was it 'communist' to begin with? People often like to call themselves names. Especially the catch-phrases. So in practice, I doubt it was communist. Propaganda says nothing useful to know one, and frankly, I can't base an opinion like that. Please don't demonstrate your knowledge of communist theory by giving examples of "Frauds of the 20'th century". It's rather painful to read.
You know... every way I look at it, paying for software just seems strange.
The work done on one peice of software is a fixed expence (not including continual maintanance). Is it ok to write something once, and sell it 5000 times? If you put all the legal issues aside, it just does not feel very balanced. Open source basically exemplifies a way where this is avoided. It's all based on the peice of software, and its use by the public. All the finances come from the continual need for work to be done on the project, rather than on licencing (and a legal front as some companies would have it).
The cost of distribution over the internet isn't 0 either, you pay for a connection. In this case, you're paying for the actual work being done for you by someone else. You pay for some setting up, and maintaning, a communication path from you to the file on the internet. The cost of developing the software isn't accounted for, because that cost has already been coverd by someone's previous need for the software to exist. Why should you at all contribute for already done work? What other item, in this universe, recieves that kind of attention?
As a last note, who here isn't femiliar with the internet and how it works? Is it really feasable to stop people from copying information on equipment that relies on copying information? That, to me, sounds like insanity in its purest form. The hardest aspect of all this is the need for some sort of change, and, as usual, people are just that afraid of work that's coming their way. Ah... Inevitability is funny.
Heh... I gave the tutorial a read thinking: "No, it's not possible it can tell me something new." right. But, little did I know. No, really, it does appear very little. Windows is so strange, it seems. I didn't know you needed 5 or so different antivirus programs running concurrently. I mean, this is quite amazing. Your traditional antivirus, spybot, adaware, blah blah blah.... essentiall all search your system for hidden programs that fuck with your hardware. Yes... so strange, and amazing at what it will do to ppl's perception of what computing's all about.
From the article, this machine had an incentive to snoop and read some letters it wasn't supposed to. Also, it had an immediate response for self preservation; it contacted the appropriate authorities. Now, I understand how alerting the authorities can be a mere computational function, but more interestingly than 'how,' I'd really like to find out 'why.' Why the hell would it care? The point is this: If this has gotten all the way to court, it becomes self-evident that you are not dealing with what we know as a machine. After all, even some animals don't have their self preservation instincts very well intact. Just look at moths.
It's probably just me, and a hint of human nature, but this "scenario" has only one logical solution. It's safe to say that this is wishful thinking at best. Much more realistically, some kid with horrible acme found a vulnerability in the system, because the management insisted on deploying the latest version of.NET on their email server 3 states away.
Now now, before you flame... or something....NET is far fetched enough, but I think it's still much more probable.
Bah! Who cares?! There's a bit of good to both. Would be nice to see something that utilizes good ideas for once without remembering what arbitrary system they came from. Have we learned nothing yet?
I don't think MS would just die off. There's no motive, at least that I know of, to have MS be completely blown off in the future. Companies aren't just a source of income for the suits and ties, you know. Most people there have nothing to do with the quality of software, and aren't exactly a problem. It's all about someone's personal itch high up in the office. I think MS has done fairly well as far as experiments go. The real benefit is that no one else has to follow the same trend, and reputation will eventually catch up with them if they don't give up being stupid.
Nature isn't that selective. For one, it won't make a decision as to start starving people or which ones to starve. The ones that starve are the ones without food. This set of conditions is not dependant on nature, especially this day and age. Much of it is due to people making all the wonderful decisions for all the other people.
I would just like to point out, that Mac OS X has an associated cost of hardware. From what I know, there aren't any popular PC ports. Maybe someday, I definately wouldn't mind.
I don't know about any goals. I think that it's on a pretty much "to each their own" basis. But I do know that OSS movement in general is an inevitable conciquence for having invented the computer. You have a whole bunch of people, all over the world, who are being charged outrageous prices by someone who wants to get rich. It's only a matter of time before someone gets really sick of it and "makes their own" Now it grew into.. well, the very same OSS that we all love and charish.
I don't see how this is against. For one, OSS is fixed much faster than propriatary. For two, b/c of one it would have less critical flaws to begin with, which will help to deter from attack. For three, when was the last time anyone here experience these attacks while not using windows?
Yes, they'll have a good head start with OSS, but thankfully, OSS design isn't as flawed.
I'm not sure what you mean by gene pool. So far there is no evidence that sets a clear link to any gene. Genes are more of a boot system, not the final output. I would think there are other influences that would cause this. It's probable that the evolution theory, no matter how valid, doesn't apply. Does the percentage rise/fall/remains constant with each generation? Seems likely that we should look into all the conditions under which the brain develops, from the start, to figure it out.
Depends... What is it that you think that should be loved? And would the midgets agree with what you'd say? Love is just a word, and what it implies to you is not the same for the.... well... your midgets. They probably just as well love spanking that man... or any man for a while.
Oh no!!! not the.... god forbidden.... command line... aaaaaaah how do I get rid of this one gateway to all the functionality of my system... how indeed. What are you, on drugs? Please define everything.
Strange, I run both XP (for some games of cource) and gnome 2.8 (mind you, not the updated futuristic looking one), and XP still looks more premitive.
Maybe this isn't that important... but whenever I use MSIE to read slashdot, it's at my college. They actually insist on it, and I actually don't really care as long as my site is pulled up. I figure they'll learn the hard way :).
I would imagine that it's a good thing. This way someone with just a little incentive can look at the problem directly and fix it. I bet there are a lot more willing people to do that than use the exploit to do anything harmful. If we get a virus before a fix, I'd be surprized.
"Now mr troll, and anyone in the "information wants to be free", what gives you the right to the labor of another man?"
Disclamer: I belong to the "information wants to be free" foundation (IWTBF-F)
-> you have to say the "F" twice
*cough cough*
The right to the labour of another man is given by that man. Any other questions?
dude, if you zoom into the gray area very close, you'll see that all aras are indeed black and white. They're so small and are so closely packed together that the overall effect that you get is one bigger gray area. As usual, it's not really complecated, people just fuss over their own egos.
Interesting peice of information, but rather redundant. All this says is that people in the US are just that... people. Internet use is up, why is everyone always so surprized?
That's nice. A buddy of mine has a law office set up. He uses OpenBSD for a firewall and keeps tight control over all activities. You think that stopped the machines from being 0wned?
What was it he said? Redhat's configuration tools wont work with any other distro? Does anyone think it really matters? I find a text editor will solve any problem.
Are you sure Stalin implemented communism? A personal agenda with propaganda doesn't seem more appropriate? The only downfall of communism is that it is impractical simply because of the cooporation it requires, it's just not possible to achieve when it comes to human beings. Capitalism, on the other hand, plays with the human survival instinct/competition. The catch, of course, your capital is your priority, reguardless of price. All in all, a bit from both would probably be most helpful. Just can't force it on anyone.
I think it is you who is a troll. Yes, the Russian government eventually collapsed, however, was it 'communist' to begin with? People often like to call themselves names. Especially the catch-phrases. So in practice, I doubt it was communist. Propaganda says nothing useful to know one, and frankly, I can't base an opinion like that. Please don't demonstrate your knowledge of communist theory by giving examples of "Frauds of the 20'th century". It's rather painful to read.
"Is paying for software really that awful?"
You know... every way I look at it, paying for software just seems strange.
The work done on one peice of software is a fixed expence (not including continual maintanance). Is it ok to write something once, and sell it 5000 times? If you put all the legal issues aside, it just does not feel very balanced. Open source basically exemplifies a way where this is avoided. It's all based on the peice of software, and its use by the public. All the finances come from the continual need for work to be done on the project, rather than on licencing (and a legal front as some companies would have it).
The cost of distribution over the internet isn't 0 either, you pay for a connection. In this case, you're paying for the actual work being done for you by someone else. You pay for some setting up, and maintaning, a communication path from you to the file on the internet. The cost of developing the software isn't accounted for, because that cost has already been coverd by someone's previous need for the software to exist. Why should you at all contribute for already done work? What other item, in this universe, recieves that kind of attention?
As a last note, who here isn't femiliar with the internet and how it works? Is it really feasable to stop people from copying information on equipment that relies on copying information? That, to me, sounds like insanity in its purest form. The hardest aspect of all this is the need for some sort of change, and, as usual, people are just that afraid of work that's coming their way. Ah... Inevitability is funny.
Heh... I gave the tutorial a read thinking: "No, it's not possible it can tell me something new." right. But, little did I know. No, really, it does appear very little. Windows is so strange, it seems. I didn't know you needed 5 or so different antivirus programs running concurrently. I mean, this is quite amazing. Your traditional antivirus, spybot, adaware, blah blah blah.... essentiall all search your system for hidden programs that fuck with your hardware. Yes... so strange, and amazing at what it will do to ppl's perception of what computing's all about.
From the article, this machine had an incentive to snoop and read some letters it wasn't supposed to. Also, it had an immediate response for self preservation; it contacted the appropriate authorities. Now, I understand how alerting the authorities can be a mere computational function, but more interestingly than 'how,' I'd really like to find out 'why.' Why the hell would it care? The point is this: If this has gotten all the way to court, it becomes self-evident that you are not dealing with what we know as a machine. After all, even some animals don't have their self preservation instincts very well intact. Just look at moths.
It's probably just me, and a hint of human nature, but this "scenario" has only one logical solution. It's safe to say that this is wishful thinking at best. Much more realistically, some kid with horrible acme found a vulnerability in the system, because the management insisted on deploying the latest version of .NET on their email server 3 states away.
Now now, before you flame... or something... .NET is far fetched enough, but I think it's still much more probable.
Bah! Who cares?! There's a bit of good to both. Would be nice to see something that utilizes good ideas for once without remembering what arbitrary system they came from. Have we learned nothing yet?
Funny how the simplest tools are the most useful. I like the idea of making everything a text file : >
"It seemed to me that the rules and culture on TV and what was acceptable or normal, were very different from the real world." Well... It is TV.
I don't think MS would just die off. There's no motive, at least that I know of, to have MS be completely blown off in the future. Companies aren't just a source of income for the suits and ties, you know. Most people there have nothing to do with the quality of software, and aren't exactly a problem. It's all about someone's personal itch high up in the office. I think MS has done fairly well as far as experiments go. The real benefit is that no one else has to follow the same trend, and reputation will eventually catch up with them if they don't give up being stupid.
Nature isn't that selective. For one, it won't make a decision as to start starving people or which ones to starve. The ones that starve are the ones without food. This set of conditions is not dependant on nature, especially this day and age. Much of it is due to people making all the wonderful decisions for all the other people.
I would just like to point out, that Mac OS X has an associated cost of hardware. From what I know, there aren't any popular PC ports. Maybe someday, I definately wouldn't mind.
I don't know about any goals. I think that it's on a pretty much "to each their own" basis. But I do know that OSS movement in general is an inevitable conciquence for having invented the computer. You have a whole bunch of people, all over the world, who are being charged outrageous prices by someone who wants to get rich. It's only a matter of time before someone gets really sick of it and "makes their own" Now it grew into.. well, the very same OSS that we all love and charish.
I don't see how this is against. For one, OSS is fixed much faster than propriatary. For two, b/c of one it would have less critical flaws to begin with, which will help to deter from attack. For three, when was the last time anyone here experience these attacks while not using windows? Yes, they'll have a good head start with OSS, but thankfully, OSS design isn't as flawed.
Why not hurl them into space? It's a larger 'ocean' and they'd surely perish before any 'shark' would offer help.
I'm not sure what you mean by gene pool. So far there is no evidence that sets a clear link to any gene. Genes are more of a boot system, not the final output. I would think there are other influences that would cause this. It's probable that the evolution theory, no matter how valid, doesn't apply. Does the percentage rise/fall/remains constant with each generation? Seems likely that we should look into all the conditions under which the brain develops, from the start, to figure it out.
Depends... What is it that you think that should be loved? And would the midgets agree with what you'd say? Love is just a word, and what it implies to you is not the same for the.... well... your midgets. They probably just as well love spanking that man... or any man for a while.