>> Could it be any more vague? Sounds like a webserver to me.
The first thing that came to my mind was voice mail. Yeah, I know it's anything but "high speed" when it hits my ear, but the phone messages are stored digitally and transmited via fibre to subscribers, so I'd say the phone company is infringing...
I would LOVE to see them try enforcing against the phone companies.
Censoring a website is small potatoes compared to anything the Third Reich did.
>> Anyone remember IBM and the Third Reich?
Not old enough to remember, but I've read about IBM and Ford and General Electric and more. "Wall street and the rise of Hitler" by Anthony Sutton is an interesting read if you can find a copy...
>> just logs of what calls you made or actual recordings of the content?
Call duration, origin, destination I know of for sure. I suspect the log is only preserved if you hit a threshold in frequency of calls, duration, etc. In this jurisdiction, actual monitoring of content would be illegal without the knowledge of one of the participants, so I doubt very much they record anything.
finally, someone else gets it. The guys that won't " just take this kind of shit from the employers" probably have no clue they're already subject to it.
That's in damn short supply here. fear and loathing we've got in spades, though
>> and the fear of privacy lawsuits.
Not much concern about that either. If you want a job here, you sign (and re-sign regularly) a systems usage agreement that prohibits using it for anything but work. period.
>> You're telling us that you log *every* packet that goes through your system?
No, I don't do the logging, but the software that does it never sleeps. Among other things, SPI with an eye to preventing espionage and watching for potty mouth. Just log into a clear-text web-mail provider and post something like "My boss is a dense prick.." - You'd be talking to HR about it a few days later.
>> perfectly good webmail clients exist (*cough*gmail*cough*)
Even if your webmail uses https or even if you tunnel, you are not private. If you're typing on your employer's box, what's stopping them from keylogging? screenshoting you?
I know my managers have read access to my mail. I know my managers have acccess to my phone logs and I know they have remote monitoring/keylogging software used exceptionally (IE installed if they want your ass fired and need a reason). The only difference between me and you might be that I know about it and you don't. You might even work for my company.
>> your email is not likely to be captured by their system, and remains private.
BZZZZZT wrong. (at least in my jurisdiction) Absolutely everything is subject to monitoring. Just because they don't mention it, doesn't mean it isn't noticed.
If the Mac users I have interacted with are a fair sample, I expect Mac users steal 30% less not 30% more. Further correlation (or coincidence?) go someplace like garage games where the majority of their sales are Mac versions..
FWIW, I don't own or use a Mac. I just think the demographic that purchases Macs are more likely to actually pay for their software as well.
>> Microsoft might as well go ahead and announce that hey, they pass it too!
--
Yeah, I agree that it's a misleading to anounce compliance when what they really mean is "you can take this and make it compliant, but it won't be anytime soon you can patch and recompile IE.
>> Hint: if the PSU is not quite heavy, your disk drives will not work properly.
You're right. I think there is a direct correlation between how much stuff is actually in the power supply and whether it's worth a sh*t or not. If it weighs like a bag of marshmallows, pitch it.
>> You can test your PSU to see if it's any good. Simply turn the power off, connect the floppy power cable backwards, then turn it back on.
>> That's OK, though -- just repeat to yourself "it'll probably never happen to me."
Until it does. Then buying a decent power supply seems like a great idea.
It never ceases to amaze me that people will put $1000+ worth of MB, RAM, Drives, Vid card in a case they paid 30 bucks for including power supply. That makes the PS worth what? 15 bucks? really bad place to save money.
>> You have one bad thing: the sysadmin failing in his duties. The only response to this is to punish the sysadmin.
I think most/. readers will agree with that. Whoever was tasked with implementing the system made a bad choice. Whoever (if anyone) was responsible for risk assesment for the project missed something too. There should be ample blame to pass around.
The students got hammered, yeah. It's entirely possible some employees also got disciplinary notices/poor quarterly reviews or whatever. We just aren't likely to see details of it in a public forum...
>> Hoever, there are plenty of high end applications that offer more functionality in IE than in Firefox or alternate browsers.
I find many of the sites telling me to "upgrade" to IE (upgrade - wtf?) work just fine in FF or Konquerer once the user agent string is spoofed. Most of the "IE only" sites out there aren't doing anything that actually requires IE or windows...
IF you're still using IE for compatibility with these sites, try Konquerer it is extremely easy to spoof browsers with it...
>> For employees at google, which time fraction would reading slashdot come under?
With the number of google stories that get posted I think they're editing slashdot not reading it. I Like google as much as the next guy, use it daily... but ffs.
Enough with the gooogle stories. Give me something refreshing and insightful. Perhaps a submission by that a Roland P. guy that everyone loves?
>> Apparently, Netscape 8 incorporates the IE rendering engine
I'm curious how this reports out in the user agent string? Not that the http_user_agent string is worth sh*t for determining browser capabilities, but many web developers channel (or deny) content based on the reported UA.
>> Generally, they do promise that your money will be there when you come to ask for it.
The last two accounts I opened had buried in the small print that the bank could hold my cash for 30-60 days AFTER I ask for it.
I doubt very much this happens often, but it does happen - I have family who lost a house deal over a wire transfer held for 60 days.. Cash in the bank, earned free and clear, but held nonetheless. If one of the Banks decides to fuck you over, you'll stand a better chance negotiating with Vinnie...
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>> Could it be any more vague? Sounds like a webserver to me.
The first thing that came to my mind was voice mail. Yeah, I know it's anything but "high speed" when it hits my ear, but the phone messages are stored digitally and transmited via fibre to subscribers, so I'd say the phone company is infringing...
I would LOVE to see them try enforcing against the phone companies.
>> Of course the slashdot type crowd will find a way around it, but Apple will never sell copies for the general public
The minute they start selling copies of OS X86 to the general public, they've become software sellers, not computer sellers.
Who the hell would buy a Mac if you could run all the software on a $600 beige-box PC?
>> I think they'll use custom motherboards along with a custom BIOS
I think you're right. Shades of "Tandy-Dos", The 80's OS that wouldn't boot on non radio shack computers..
>> I just love when the layman thinks he knows more than the professional and is all smug about it.
Oddly enough, I find myself wondering how your last couple posts would be analyzed by the "evil-filter".
>> it sounds like a giant heap of grant-sucking bullshit.
No kidding. I can smell my tax dollars burning...
Censoring a website is small potatoes compared to anything the Third Reich did.
>> Anyone remember IBM and the Third Reich?
Not old enough to remember, but I've read about IBM and Ford and General Electric and more. "Wall street and the rise of Hitler" by Anthony Sutton is an interesting read if you can find a copy...
>> just logs of what calls you made or actual recordings of the content?
Call duration, origin, destination I know of for sure. I suspect the log is only preserved if you hit a threshold in frequency of calls, duration, etc. In this jurisdiction, actual monitoring of content would be illegal without the knowledge of one of the participants, so I doubt very much they record anything.
>> That would be all of them.
finally, someone else gets it. The guys that won't " just take this kind of shit from the employers" probably have no clue they're already subject to it.
>> Nothing except human decency
That's in damn short supply here. fear and loathing we've got in spades, though
>> and the fear of privacy lawsuits.
Not much concern about that either. If you want a job here, you sign (and re-sign regularly) a systems usage agreement that prohibits using it for anything but work. period.
>> You're telling us that you log *every* packet that goes through your system?
No, I don't do the logging, but the software that does it never sleeps. Among other things, SPI with an eye to preventing espionage and watching for potty mouth. Just log into a clear-text web-mail provider and post something like "My boss is a dense prick.." - You'd be talking to HR about it a few days later.
>> perfectly good webmail clients exist (*cough*gmail*cough*)
Even if your webmail uses https or even if you tunnel, you are not private. If you're typing on your employer's box, what's stopping them from keylogging? screenshoting you?
I know my managers have read access to my mail. I know my managers have acccess to my phone logs and I know they have remote monitoring/keylogging software used exceptionally (IE installed if they want your ass fired and need a reason). The only difference between me and you might be that I know about it and you don't. You might even work for my company.
>> your email is not likely to be captured by their system, and remains private.
BZZZZZT wrong. (at least in my jurisdiction) Absolutely everything is subject to monitoring. Just because they don't mention it, doesn't mean it isn't noticed.
>> and if Mac users steal 30% more
If the Mac users I have interacted with are a fair sample, I expect Mac users steal 30% less not 30% more. Further correlation (or coincidence?) go someplace like garage games where the majority of their sales are Mac versions..
FWIW, I don't own or use a Mac. I just think the demographic that purchases Macs are more likely to actually pay for their software as well.
>> Microsoft might as well go ahead and announce that hey, they pass it too! --
Yeah, I agree that it's a misleading to anounce compliance when what they really mean is "you can take this and make it compliant, but it won't be anytime soon you can patch and recompile IE.
>> "Microsoft said it cleaned the Web site, www.msn.co.kr, and removed the dangerous software code... "
So which distro did they load to replace windows?
>> Marketing.
Soooooo much cheaper than R&D - who can blame them?
>> Hint: if the PSU is not quite heavy, your disk drives will not work properly.
You're right. I think there is a direct correlation between how much stuff is actually in the power supply and whether it's worth a sh*t or not. If it weighs like a bag of marshmallows, pitch it.
>> You can test your PSU to see if it's any good. Simply turn the power off, connect the floppy power cable backwards, then turn it back on.
And here I was using a meter. Silly me.
>> Or maybe to peopel who want a mini-comp but don't want to get a mac
That's funny - I thought the attraction of the Mac Mini (aside from the 'cute' factor) was for people that wanted to try Mac without spending much...
some sort of robotic worm or snake.
I had my money laid on "Yoda Doll"
>> That's OK, though -- just repeat to yourself "it'll probably never happen to me."
Until it does. Then buying a decent power supply seems like a great idea.
It never ceases to amaze me that people will put $1000+ worth of MB, RAM, Drives, Vid card in a case they paid 30 bucks for including power supply. That makes the PS worth what? 15 bucks? really bad place to save money.
>> This is unAmerican and you hippies should be ashamed of yourselves! ;)
I'm not American, so hopefully I can get away with linking to www.greasecar.com
If you're interested in running your vehicle on biodeisel or straight vegatable oil, it's a good place to start reading. Very interesting stuff..
>> whats my upgrade path from Mac OS X 10.4?
;-]
Slackware 10.1
Thanks for asking
>> You have one bad thing: the sysadmin failing in his duties. The only response to this is to punish the sysadmin.
/. readers will agree with that. Whoever was tasked with implementing the system made a bad choice. Whoever (if anyone) was responsible for risk assesment for the project missed something too. There should be ample blame to pass around.
I think most
The students got hammered, yeah. It's entirely possible some employees also got disciplinary notices/poor quarterly reviews or whatever. We just aren't likely to see details of it in a public forum...
>> Hoever, there are plenty of high end applications that offer more functionality in IE than in Firefox or alternate browsers.
I find many of the sites telling me to "upgrade" to IE (upgrade - wtf?) work just fine in FF or Konquerer once the user agent string is spoofed. Most of the "IE only" sites out there aren't doing anything that actually requires IE or windows...
IF you're still using IE for compatibility with these sites, try Konquerer it is extremely easy to spoof browsers with it...
>> For employees at google, which time fraction would reading slashdot come under?
With the number of google stories that get posted I think they're editing slashdot not reading it. I Like google as much as the next guy, use it daily... but ffs.
Enough with the gooogle stories. Give me something refreshing and insightful. Perhaps a submission by that a Roland P. guy that everyone loves?
just a thought...
>> >>Firefox rules...IE sucks...let's fight! >>
Come on TMM, we all know konquerer is best....
>> Apparently, Netscape 8 incorporates the IE rendering engine
I'm curious how this reports out in the user agent string? Not that the http_user_agent string is worth sh*t for determining browser capabilities, but many web developers channel (or deny) content based on the reported UA.
>> Generally, they do promise that your money will be there when you come to ask for it.
The last two accounts I opened had buried in the small print that the bank could hold my cash for 30-60 days AFTER I ask for it.
I doubt very much this happens often, but it does happen - I have family who lost a house deal over a wire transfer held for 60 days.. Cash in the bank, earned free and clear, but held nonetheless. If one of the Banks decides to fuck you over, you'll stand a better chance negotiating with Vinnie...