-u1 -- a setting of 1 permits the driver to unmask other interrupts during processing of a disk interrupt, which greatly improves linux's responsiveness.
-d1 -- turn on dma
-c1 -- enable 32bit transfers (helps alot)
-A1 -- enable readahead
-a255 -- set readahead to 255 (maximum on ide drives)
-m16 -- permits the transfer of multiple sectors per interrupt (16 in this case - max for my hd)
-X66 -- set UDMA33 transfer mode. 67 is uata66, 68 is uata100.. dont bank on that, however.
-W1 -- enable write cacheing (this would help you alot) make sure your hard drive is stable with all other settings before trying this, as it's dangerous.
Also try getting the program powertweak for setting all kinds of tuning parameters. There is a powertweak-gtk with descriptive tooltips as well.
Your support of microsoft as being "pragmatic" is the kind of short-sighted faux-wisdom that's gotten us in the jam we are in now. namely microsoft's monopoly market position.
I would encourage everyone to try their hardest to embrace open standards on their internal networks. Maxtor may be following a path of least resistance concerning their relationship with microsoft, but thankfully most of us aren't in that position.
Of course I have the luxury of not making business decisions for billion dollar companies, but i've got a hunch that it's in everyone's long-term benefit to try their hardest to embrace open standards.
Great. I want my BSD or Linux box to operate as a peer on my NDS or ActiveDirectory architecture.
Hence the anti-trust suite. When you're a monopoly you have to play by a different set of rules than a normal company.
Show me a way that isn't some crufty hack but that's reliable, robust, and efficient.
Easy. You said it yourself. using active directory allowing Microsoft to rape you anally and then steal your wallet. Don't buy into the microsoft monopoly, folks. It ain't in the name of progress..
Maxtor's various reasons for ditching BSD were that it can't handle large file sizes, and that it has little backup software support.
In switching to Win2k (a stripped down version) they proceed to lampoon open source as incapable of meeting their needs. As if the entirety of open source is represented by the merits/demerits of a single operating system.
As far as I know, linux 2.4 could have handled maxtor's needs, but either 2.4.x wasn't tried and true enough for them, or Microsoft gave Maxtor win2k for little to nothing.
Where are the Itanium computers? This port isn't of much use to nearly everyone.
Itanium represents the first commodity 64bit enterprise computing platform. A major advance if you ask me (regardless of performance), and linux will be there first, along with SCO, and win2k bringing up the rear.
Where are the PPC64 computers?
Ever hear of Power3 and Power4, and AIX? 'nuff said.
How many people own an S/390?
I think the count of people that use S/390 is far less inportant than the importance of those people. S/390 has no peer in its class as a mainfraim. Sun's starfire comes close.
And where is a semi-usable UltraSPARC distribution?
Debian has a semi-usable distribution for Ultra Sparc. I beleive they have Xfree working, among other things, along with the trivial ports that just require a linux kernel
Proof of concept ports... these aren't of much use...
Mostly what I noticed is that all the lawyers sounded stupid. They were so busy trying to dodge questions that they failed to argue thier case.
</i><br><br>I totally agree. But I think the judges were stupider. I kept thinking to myself. These judges don't udnerstand software at all. They just don't get it. In many cases their ignorance was exacerbated by their arrogance. Sighs again...
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Maybe we should push for legislation to set up a "technology court" and a "technology court of appeals" for such cases. These judges sure seemed out of it.
Ask the Samba folks to prove microsoft is anti-competitive. Ask the Wine folks. They have the dealings with microsoft to prove it.
Ironically, so do the judges, right there in the findings of fact (not those specific examples, however).
The problem with Katz's reading of the anti-trust appeal is that the arrogant-bastard appeals judges (come on, who else actually listened to the precedings and can tell me the judges weren't arogant bastards) wouldn't let the government get a word in edge-wise. So basicly all you heard was something like this::
Judge: So government, microsoft here says navigator was crap, and that microsoft couldn't help but put it out of business.
Government attourney: If microsft didn't cut of the air-supply of navigator, we have many emails to prove microsoft's stra --
Judge(interrupting, what they do best): So, when microsoft put navigator out of business, it was because they had a better product, and you can't prove to me otherwise.
Government attourney: Actually I can, you see --
Some other judge(changing the subject): I want to get back to judge jackson's behavior...
How can you make your case to the public, and to jon katz, when the judges won't even let you lay out your story.. Sigh.
When can I get my shadow file encoded in AES? Hehe..
actually md5sum is pretty secure, but nothing is secure if you use plain english dictionary words. Programs like johnny cracker don't care about the encryption.
honestly, I don't know the difference between a md5sum code and a AES code, maybe someone could elucidate me.
Why are you always saying something bad about linux?
Every single post contains a negative comment about linux. What the hell for? Are you a troll? Jesus, man, you act as if you're employeed by The Beast to detract from linux because, after all, linux is threat #1.
(chances are you broke "ls" because you did something stupid. Thanks alot for blaming it on the glibc maintainers, you prick)
>>> gee, does that show version numbers of all packages? (this is the information i want), like this:
Why, yes, it does. You challenge assuming you'll be shown correct, but as I stated before you don't know much about debian.
pileofcrap:~# dpkg -l |grep gno
ii gnome-bin 1.2.12-1 Miscellaneous binaries used by Gnome
ii gnome-control- 1.2.3-1 The Gnome Control Center
ii gnome-core 1.2.4-9 Common files for Gnome core apps
ii gnome-libs-dat 1.2.12-1 Data for Gnome libraries
ii gnome-media 1.2.0-2 Gnome Media Utilities (gmix, gtcd)
ii gnome-panel 1.2.4-9 Launch and/or dock Gnome applications
ii gnome-panel-da 1.2.4-9 Data files for GNOME panel
ii gnome-session 1.2.4-9 The Gnome Session Manager
ii gnomeicu 0.95.3-1 Small, fast and functional clone of Mirabili
ii libglade-gnome 0.16-2 Library to load.glade files at runtime (Gno
.
.
.
So there you have it. not only do you get version numbers, but you get brief descriptions. Much better. bahahah.
apt-get is just a frontend to a packet manager
Uhm, I think you need to educate about what apt* is. It's a suite, not a single program. and apt-get is much more than a packet(package?) manager. Maybe coming from rpm land, your idea of a package manager is the most unweildy, bloated, inelegeant piece of hackery ever created to manage packages, but if that's the case I can only feel sorry for you.
As a side note, I think the thrust of Nick Petreley's article is, why is debian (and corel maybe) the only distro with simple, elegant package retreival and maintainence. Not that "rpm and apt-get can't coexist" but more that they dont, and the big players dont want them to (for god know what reason).
>>> Installation is easier under apt-get, perhaps, but what happens when you want to uninstall? Apt-get's uninstall capabilities are horrible.
Uhm, I don't think you know what you're talking about.
apt-get remove <packagename>:: will remove package and everything that depends on it.
dpkg -r <packagename>:: will remove only package and nothing else.
apt-get is all about dependency resolution and package retreival negotiation, and dpkg is all about what packages have to go through when they are being built, installed, or removed.
From what I gather, rpm tries to roll both of these into one program which can be rather annoying when you're used to the soundness of debian's package design. It's no wonder Corel saw the light of easy, straight-forward package maintainance.
No, they wouldn't have tried the same thing. Rambus happened to be the only member of JEDEC that *didn't* physically produce any product. Since this debacle, the JEDEC has changed their rules to include only companies that physically produce DRAM.
The only reason rambus is getting away with this is because they pulled out of the JEDEC conference mid-way when they realized that Dell Computer tried to do the same thing as them but were found in contempt of JEDEC rules and had their patents nullified.
Uhm ok. To get a bit legal, the rights under the GPL belong to the copyright holder. The copyright holders of the kernel are many. Any one of them could sue under copyright law for license infringement. It's not for me to make this decision, but if it gets out of hand, expect a class-action lawsuit against virgin player, or whatever the hell it is. Right now, the way you describe it, it's a trifle.
Your intellect is frightening. aol is a service for morons and their 5 year old children. Sorry it's the truth. Free software users won't be duped. And free software creators/can't/ be duped. They do it for the love. For the pleasure. For the endorphin rush. So they can get laid on saturday night.
Modding to troll is definately not the same as blacklist. You could be "troll" and still +1..
Like I intimated. Thinking before reacting is vital to good postage.
Yes opinion shouldn't be marked as troll.
If you want to know my opinion about that top poster, I think he is a pro-microsoft astroturfer who wants to take mindshare away from linux.
They've done it before, and they'll do it again. Remember when they badmouthed the internet before they presciently "got it".. hahaha. stupid microsoft.
IBM, SUN, HP are NOT software companies. Embrace and extend what?! the kernel?! bahahah, I don't think so. Why should IBM and SUN hire kernel module writers and maintainers when the community takes care of that very well?
If Microsoft were suddenly interested in linux, THEN I'd be worried. Microsoft is a pure software play (now with xbox, webtv, so who knows). Microsoft would certainly use the methods you site, but would IBM and SUN? that's doubtful. If they can sell the hardware with a software service contract then that's just as good as selling the hardware with their software with a software warranty which includes a modicum of service obligations.
It's/cheaper/ to use linux for these corperations if it does everything Solaris or AIX does, for free, with little to know developer overhead, and with alot of room left over for lucrative service contracts. It just makes sense.
At the current time linux can't do everything solaris and aix does, of course, so they will continue to sell those in the high end.
I am very pleased that you are concerned about linux's succcess and what business might do to it. Free Software is addictive, once you use it you can't quit. I am certainly addicted to my debian installation, and the gads of free software it gives me. I don't think I'll be going back to windows/warez/crackz any time soon.
Borland is in its death throes. Microsoft has effectively made them irrelevent and they are trying to maximize profit with a push into the linux sector. But puhlease. Anyone who uses gcc/autoconf on a regular basis couldn't care less about borland. What worthlessness.
In the end, free software will have succeeded only if it makes software a commodity. Linux distributions are already commodities, and cost a person the price of bandwidth, or the price of medium+copy fee. Why do you think these distribution companies are having so much trouble? Software is becoming a commodity. You need to do something else to make your money. Redhat knows this. IBM knows this. Sun knows this. Suse is learning this. And microsoft has a monopoly.
So there we have it. Will the big-box computer makers take over linux? Only if the laws governing free-markets of commodities end up that way. There will always be added value, and there will ALWAYS be a common base. Commodity markets looove consistency of product. You just watch. I know I'm right.
>> Linux is not about money, it's about freedom. Don't let the corporations take it away from us.
<<
Quit your whining, biotch. Linux can't be taken away from us, it's GPL'd (for the most part).
Linux Torvalds is hardly worries. Check out this excerpt from his most recent interview:
Linus Torvalds: Oh, there's a lot of confusion here, probably because a lot of people get so hung up about "ownership transfer," when I personally don't think such a notion even exists in Linux.
See, Linus isn't worried at all that linux can be taken away from us. He has alot more wisdom on this subject than probably any of us. If he thinks linux is safe from all the companies and outside interests, I tend to agree.
By the way, most hackers who make code under the GPL (and bsd/x licenses) don't consider the use of such code to be exploitative. The way you react, I doubt you've ever even contributed 1 line of code to the free software community.
If corperations think it is in their interest to sell free software, I don't think we should stand in their way. RMS isn't. Linus isn't. Please think before you detract.
I dont know. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. But when people say "IE is great"... well Maybe for pr0n... but besides that, gecko is perfect for all my browsing. Fuck microsoft's API.s Embrace and extend my ass. Sounds more like a method for extracting sperm from livestock. I think in this case, the bull has cummed.
Not only get off the sinking ship, get 100km away from the ship. Microsoft isn't going doing without hostages and random killing. Ever see the movie antitrust? Watch out!! hehe.
Teehee. Yes very funny. America has had 300 years of culture built on top of dirt. Can you blame us for being so crass? Ah well. We do reflect the world in many ways. Ethnically, geographically, religiously.
mm, Im thinking about moving to canada before Osamma gets a nuke, a breifcase and a one-way trip to DC/NYC.. Could you imagine? Global depression would ensue. Us government in chaos. Us Banking/financial in chaos.. For all your myopic environmentalists out there, rogue nukes and infectious diseases are our #1 enemies.. Of course, followed by micrsoft in close second.
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I forgot to mention -u1
-u1 -- a setting of 1 permits the driver to unmask other interrupts during processing of a disk interrupt, which greatly improves linux's responsiveness.
I can help you with hdparm, but I'm not familiar with vfs tuning.
/dev/hda
Most others here suggest turning dma on, which is obvious, but there are many other things you can do with hdparm to help performance.
This is the command I use on startup:
hdparm -d1 -c1 -u1 -A1 -a255 -m16 -X66 -W1
-d1 -- turn on dma
-c1 -- enable 32bit transfers (helps alot)
-A1 -- enable readahead
-a255 -- set readahead to 255 (maximum on ide drives)
-m16 -- permits the transfer of multiple sectors per interrupt (16 in this case - max for my hd)
-X66 -- set UDMA33 transfer mode. 67 is uata66, 68 is uata100.. dont bank on that, however.
-W1 -- enable write cacheing (this would help you alot) make sure your hard drive is stable with all other settings before trying this, as it's dangerous.
Also try getting the program powertweak for setting all kinds of tuning parameters. There is a powertweak-gtk with descriptive tooltips as well.
Your support of microsoft as being "pragmatic" is the kind of short-sighted faux-wisdom that's gotten us in the jam we are in now. namely microsoft's monopoly market position.
I would encourage everyone to try their hardest to embrace open standards on their internal networks. Maxtor may be following a path of least resistance concerning their relationship with microsoft, but thankfully most of us aren't in that position.
Of course I have the luxury of not making business decisions for billion dollar companies, but i've got a hunch that it's in everyone's long-term benefit to try their hardest to embrace open standards.
Great. I want my BSD or Linux box to operate as a peer on my NDS or ActiveDirectory architecture.
Hence the anti-trust suite. When you're a monopoly you have to play by a different set of rules than a normal company.
Show me a way that isn't some crufty hack but that's reliable, robust, and efficient.
Easy. You said it yourself. using active directory allowing Microsoft to rape you anally and then steal your wallet. Don't buy into the microsoft monopoly, folks. It ain't in the name of progress..
You gotta wonder, just who is buying these servers anyway...
Probably some hill-billy computer warehouse in kentucky or something...
Maxtor's various reasons for ditching BSD were that it can't handle large file sizes, and that it has little backup software support.
In switching to Win2k (a stripped down version) they proceed to lampoon open source as incapable of meeting their needs. As if the entirety of open source is represented by the merits/demerits of a single operating system.
As far as I know, linux 2.4 could have handled maxtor's needs, but either 2.4.x wasn't tried and true enough for them, or Microsoft gave Maxtor win2k for little to nothing.
Where are the Itanium computers? This port isn't of much use to nearly everyone.
Itanium represents the first commodity 64bit enterprise computing platform. A major advance if you ask me (regardless of performance), and linux will be there first, along with SCO, and win2k bringing up the rear.
Where are the PPC64 computers?
Ever hear of Power3 and Power4, and AIX? 'nuff said.
How many people own an S/390?
I think the count of people that use S/390 is far less inportant than the importance of those people. S/390 has no peer in its class as a mainfraim. Sun's starfire comes close.
And where is a semi-usable UltraSPARC distribution?
Debian has a semi-usable distribution for Ultra Sparc. I beleive they have Xfree working, among other things, along with the trivial ports that just require a linux kernel
Proof of concept ports... these aren't of much use...
Needless to say, I disagree.
Preach on, brother.
You hit the nail on the head. this really is a battle between Good and Evil, and microsoft is most definately evil.
I hope most windows users come to realize what crap microsoft puts them through, and shuffle off their menial coil.
Live another day, microsofties, join the holy war against the evil stowed in redmond.
Mostly what I noticed is that all the lawyers sounded stupid. They were so busy trying to dodge questions that they failed to argue thier case.
</i><br><br>I totally agree. But I think the judges were stupider. I kept thinking to myself. These judges don't udnerstand software at all. They just don't get it. In many cases their ignorance was exacerbated by their arrogance. Sighs again...
<br><br>
Maybe we should push for legislation to set up a "technology court" and a "technology court of appeals" for such cases. These judges sure seemed out of it.
Ask the Samba folks to prove microsoft is anti-competitive. Ask the Wine folks. They have the dealings with microsoft to prove it.
::
Ironically, so do the judges, right there in the findings of fact (not those specific examples, however).
The problem with Katz's reading of the anti-trust appeal is that the arrogant-bastard appeals judges (come on, who else actually listened to the precedings and can tell me the judges weren't arogant bastards) wouldn't let the government get a word in edge-wise. So basicly all you heard was something like this
Judge: So government, microsoft here says navigator was crap, and that microsoft couldn't help but put it out of business.
Government attourney: If microsft didn't cut of the air-supply of navigator, we have many emails to prove microsoft's stra --
Judge(interrupting, what they do best): So, when microsoft put navigator out of business, it was because they had a better product, and you can't prove to me otherwise.
Government attourney: Actually I can, you see --
Some other judge(changing the subject): I want to get back to judge jackson's behavior...
How can you make your case to the public, and to jon katz, when the judges won't even let you lay out your story.. Sigh.
When can I get my shadow file encoded in AES? Hehe..
actually md5sum is pretty secure, but nothing is secure if you use plain english dictionary words. Programs like johnny cracker don't care about the encryption.
honestly, I don't know the difference between a md5sum code and a AES code, maybe someone could elucidate me.
Why are you always saying something bad about linux?
Every single post contains a negative comment about linux. What the hell for? Are you a troll? Jesus, man, you act as if you're employeed by The Beast to detract from linux because, after all, linux is threat #1.
(chances are you broke "ls" because you did something stupid. Thanks alot for blaming it on the glibc maintainers, you prick)
>>> gee, does that show version numbers of all packages? (this is the information i want), like this:
.glade files at runtime (Gno
Why, yes, it does. You challenge assuming you'll be shown correct, but as I stated before you don't know much about debian.
pileofcrap:~# dpkg -l |grep gno
ii gnome-bin 1.2.12-1 Miscellaneous binaries used by Gnome
ii gnome-control- 1.2.3-1 The Gnome Control Center
ii gnome-core 1.2.4-9 Common files for Gnome core apps
ii gnome-libs-dat 1.2.12-1 Data for Gnome libraries
ii gnome-media 1.2.0-2 Gnome Media Utilities (gmix, gtcd)
ii gnome-panel 1.2.4-9 Launch and/or dock Gnome applications
ii gnome-panel-da 1.2.4-9 Data files for GNOME panel
ii gnome-session 1.2.4-9 The Gnome Session Manager
ii gnomeicu 0.95.3-1 Small, fast and functional clone of Mirabili
ii libglade-gnome 0.16-2 Library to load
.
.
.
So there you have it. not only do you get version numbers, but you get brief descriptions. Much better. bahahah.
apt-get is just a frontend to a packet manager Uhm, I think you need to educate about what apt* is. It's a suite, not a single program. and apt-get is much more than a packet(package?) manager. Maybe coming from rpm land, your idea of a package manager is the most unweildy, bloated, inelegeant piece of hackery ever created to manage packages, but if that's the case I can only feel sorry for you. As a side note, I think the thrust of Nick Petreley's article is, why is debian (and corel maybe) the only distro with simple, elegant package retreival and maintainence. Not that "rpm and apt-get can't coexist" but more that they dont, and the big players dont want them to (for god know what reason).
>>> one missing feature from apt-get, is the rpm -qa | grep somestring
You redhat strays astonish me.
here's how you do that in debian: dpkg -l |grep <something>
Gee whiz. I bet you've never even heard of the program "dpkg".. my god!!! is all humanity hopeless?!?? oh woe is me..
>>> Installation is easier under apt-get, perhaps, but what happens when you want to uninstall? Apt-get's uninstall capabilities are horrible.
:: will remove package and everything that depends on it.
:: will remove only package and nothing else.
Uhm, I don't think you know what you're talking about.
apt-get remove <packagename>
dpkg -r <packagename>
apt-get is all about dependency resolution and package retreival negotiation, and dpkg is all about what packages have to go through when they are being built, installed, or removed.
From what I gather, rpm tries to roll both of these into one program which can be rather annoying when you're used to the soundness of debian's package design. It's no wonder Corel saw the light of easy, straight-forward package maintainance.
No, they wouldn't have tried the same thing. Rambus happened to be the only member of JEDEC that *didn't* physically produce any product. Since this debacle, the JEDEC has changed their rules to include only companies that physically produce DRAM.
The only reason rambus is getting away with this is because they pulled out of the JEDEC conference mid-way when they realized that Dell Computer tried to do the same thing as them but were found in contempt of JEDEC rules and had their patents nullified.
Uhm ok. To get a bit legal, the rights under the GPL belong to the copyright holder. The copyright holders of the kernel are many. Any one of them could sue under copyright law for license infringement. It's not for me to make this decision, but if it gets out of hand, expect a class-action lawsuit against virgin player, or whatever the hell it is. Right now, the way you describe it, it's a trifle.
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/can't/ be duped. They do it for the love. For the pleasure. For the endorphin rush. So they can get laid on saturday night.
Your intellect is frightening. aol is a service for morons and their 5 year old children. Sorry it's the truth. Free software users won't be duped. And free software creators
Modding to troll is definately not the same as blacklist. You could be "troll" and still +1..
Like I intimated. Thinking before reacting is vital to good postage.
Yes opinion shouldn't be marked as troll.
If you want to know my opinion about that top poster, I think he is a pro-microsoft astroturfer who wants to take mindshare away from linux.
They've done it before, and they'll do it again. Remember when they badmouthed the internet before they presciently "got it".. hahaha. stupid microsoft.
You're paranoid.
/cheaper/ to use linux for these corperations if it does everything Solaris or AIX does, for free, with little to know developer overhead, and with alot of room left over for lucrative service contracts. It just makes sense.
IBM, SUN, HP are NOT software companies. Embrace and extend what?! the kernel?! bahahah, I don't think so. Why should IBM and SUN hire kernel module writers and maintainers when the community takes care of that very well?
If Microsoft were suddenly interested in linux, THEN I'd be worried. Microsoft is a pure software play (now with xbox, webtv, so who knows). Microsoft would certainly use the methods you site, but would IBM and SUN? that's doubtful. If they can sell the hardware with a software service contract then that's just as good as selling the hardware with their software with a software warranty which includes a modicum of service obligations.
It's
At the current time linux can't do everything solaris and aix does, of course, so they will continue to sell those in the high end.
I am very pleased that you are concerned about linux's succcess and what business might do to it. Free Software is addictive, once you use it you can't quit. I am certainly addicted to my debian installation, and the gads of free software it gives me. I don't think I'll be going back to windows/warez/crackz any time soon.
Borland is in its death throes. Microsoft has effectively made them irrelevent and they are trying to maximize profit with a push into the linux sector. But puhlease. Anyone who uses gcc/autoconf on a regular basis couldn't care less about borland. What worthlessness.
In the end, free software will have succeeded only if it makes software a commodity. Linux distributions are already commodities, and cost a person the price of bandwidth, or the price of medium+copy fee. Why do you think these distribution companies are having so much trouble? Software is becoming a commodity. You need to do something else to make your money. Redhat knows this. IBM knows this. Sun knows this. Suse is learning this. And microsoft has a monopoly.
So there we have it. Will the big-box computer makers take over linux? Only if the laws governing free-markets of commodities end up that way. There will always be added value, and there will ALWAYS be a common base. Commodity markets looove consistency of product. You just watch. I know I'm right.
>> Linux is not about money, it's about freedom. Don't let the corporations take it away from us.
<<
Quit your whining, biotch. Linux can't be taken away from us, it's GPL'd (for the most part).
Linux Torvalds is hardly worries. Check out this excerpt from his most recent interview:
Linus Torvalds: Oh, there's a lot of confusion here, probably because a lot of people get so hung up about "ownership transfer," when I personally don't think such a notion even exists in Linux.
See, Linus isn't worried at all that linux can be taken away from us. He has alot more wisdom on this subject than probably any of us. If he thinks linux is safe from all the companies and outside interests, I tend to agree.
By the way, most hackers who make code under the GPL (and bsd/x licenses) don't consider the use of such code to be exploitative. The way you react, I doubt you've ever even contributed 1 line of code to the free software community.
If corperations think it is in their interest to sell free software, I don't think we should stand in their way. RMS isn't. Linus isn't. Please think before you detract.
I dont know. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. But when people say "IE is great" ... well Maybe for pr0n... but besides that, gecko is perfect for all my browsing. Fuck microsoft's API.s Embrace and extend my ass. Sounds more like a method for extracting sperm from livestock. I think in this case, the bull has cummed.
Not only get off the sinking ship, get 100km away from the ship. Microsoft isn't going doing without hostages and random killing. Ever see the movie antitrust? Watch out!! hehe.
Teehee. Yes very funny. America has had 300 years of culture built on top of dirt. Can you blame us for being so crass? Ah well. We do reflect the world in many ways. Ethnically, geographically, religiously.
mm, Im thinking about moving to canada before Osamma gets a nuke, a breifcase and a one-way trip to DC/NYC.. Could you imagine? Global depression would ensue. Us government in chaos. Us Banking/financial in chaos.. For all your myopic environmentalists out there, rogue nukes and infectious diseases are our #1 enemies.. Of course, followed by micrsoft in close second.