This is stupid many time there is a story about hacking and a IP coming from that 'third world country' (insert name here China[ ], Iran [x], Russia [ ], all other[ ]......), someone assume that a person local to that country did all the job.
What if that IP in Iran was not secured ? What if that person actually used the internet and connected to that IP in Iran from somewhere else (doh). There is a ton of non-patched OS, vulnerable IP out there.
Some peoples shouldn't use the internet (or for that matter shouldn't make conclusions or assumptions on 'too technical stuff')
I agree with you there, I would neither as a Ph. D. candidate submit a paper without references and with smileys in the text. Good classic research in my opinion, need to be standard form, and I do not think I would have made the try to not refer to previous research even if my team is a class of 8yo. He could have added the references into an addendum online or publish a separate paper completing and referring to this article, I think I would have done that.
But, this paper is exceptional nevertheless and the principal author made the choice to not include references and explained why. It is exceptional maybe not by the extent of the paper (scientific impact) but by initiating very young scientist to science with real science (except references;-) ). I had my first paper as an undergraduate, still pretty soon if I looked around at the time compared to the rest of my group.
Having 8yo, I would have been very proud today to have participated in this, and make me think that scientific literacy can be achieved sooner than in college. What I remember when I was that age, I went to my teacher and asked him : when will we do paleontology, planetary science and dinosaurs studies: he told me : that is not this year, not the next year, not in high school, but not before college maybe. I can say that this was not one of the best answers I had in my life. If someone had a practical answer to my question at the time, I would not have loose so much time before starting university...
And one little thing I noticed on the paper itself when I read the full text (free in html or pdf through the web site) - they didn't cite any sources. Few publications would allow that these days, I would have expected that their corresponding (last) author would have added in some sources to establish the background at the least.
While I agree that the absence of source may be a problem in most cases of publishing a scientific paper, the corresponding author explain in the abstract why it would not be a good idea to publish this article with references. The research is still original, 8yo or not, and well at least they do not try to hide the fact that there is no references.
Actually, since these were paid for with real money and are basically "one month subscriptions" to the game they have as much value as any subscription to a service.
Possibly that the guy who loose it all is billionnaire ingame (he's a an alliance director and corporation CEO) and buy it with ingame money from other people selling PLEX on the market. No difference with any other items.
and BTW a Titan class ship cost like 5 times that loss (80 B+ ISK) and these die too =)
I must agree. I haven't used Linux in a while. I was using it as a desktop on a box and as a firewall on another. I was using Slackware (~7.0) and well, as far as I was able to tell, I could do anything with it. Switch desktop manager, disable everything, just do FTP serv, burn CD... etc..
I am wondering why one would fit better to a non-expert user than another. It is not all the same ?
"That's a very poor argument. You can swap out "church" for almost any other childhood activity. For example, soccer:"
A soccer coach has less scope for compelling sodomy than does a priest representing an imaginary celestial friend.
[...]
If we isolate variables, for all setbacks being equal for church and soccer (abuses, brainwashing, training), maybe soccer teach tactics, teamwork and make you healthy. I don't know what is the 'altar boy experience' is giving as an advantage in this context.
BTW, soccer coaches aren't paying hundreds of millions of dollars in pedophilia settlement money.
But adult soccer players may be payed millions of dollar! Not adult altar boy.
I'am almost 32, and like you, I did not complete a CS degree when I was 21. But, I've been working as a programmer, DBA, project manager, system administrator for the last 10 years, with some pretty good money.
I then decide that it was enough, that I need to have this CS done at once. But wait.. They won't accept me at first because I haven't been at school for a while (universite de montreal, that is). I have to do some credits to 'prove' that I am still schoolworthy. I don't think it's much fun first, I wanna do CS.
But while doing these credits, I discover that I can really use my computer skills at a professionnal level, but in another faculty. So I've applied in an Environmental Geography program, and I like it ! I've been doing it for a year now, doing remote-sensing and numbercrunching with ease. I work part time at my last employer, and it's ok. Less money, but enough to do a trip per 2 years oversea, +the usual stuff.
I think that when you are 30 and going back to school, you really know what you like, and what you don't, compared to youngster around. And experience cannot be so much learn at school neither, so you can really keep it up if you want it.
Good luck to you !
flak
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cool story bro
So 2005: http://www.osnews.com/thread?11786 nice story bro
This is stupid many time there is a story about hacking and a IP coming from that 'third world country' (insert name here China[ ], Iran [x], Russia [ ], all other[ ]......), someone assume that a person local to that country did all the job. What if that IP in Iran was not secured ? What if that person actually used the internet and connected to that IP in Iran from somewhere else (doh). There is a ton of non-patched OS, vulnerable IP out there. Some peoples shouldn't use the internet (or for that matter shouldn't make conclusions or assumptions on 'too technical stuff')
I agree with you there, I would neither as a Ph. D. candidate submit a paper without references and with smileys in the text. Good classic research in my opinion, need to be standard form, and I do not think I would have made the try to not refer to previous research even if my team is a class of 8yo. He could have added the references into an addendum online or publish a separate paper completing and referring to this article, I think I would have done that.
But, this paper is exceptional nevertheless and the principal author made the choice to not include references and explained why. It is exceptional maybe not by the extent of the paper (scientific impact) but by initiating very young scientist to science with real science (except references ;-) ). I had my first paper as an undergraduate, still pretty soon if I looked around at the time compared to the rest of my group.
Having 8yo, I would have been very proud today to have participated in this, and make me think that scientific literacy can be achieved sooner than in college. What I remember when I was that age, I went to my teacher and asked him : when will we do paleontology, planetary science and dinosaurs studies: he told me : that is not this year, not the next year, not in high school, but not before college maybe. I can say that this was not one of the best answers I had in my life. If someone had a practical answer to my question at the time, I would not have loose so much time before starting university...
While I agree that the absence of source may be a problem in most cases of publishing a scientific paper, the corresponding author explain in the abstract why it would not be a good idea to publish this article with references. The research is still original, 8yo or not, and well at least they do not try to hide the fact that there is no references.
Actually, since these were paid for with real money and are basically "one month subscriptions" to the game they have as much value as any subscription to a service.
Possibly that the guy who loose it all is billionnaire ingame (he's a an alliance director and corporation CEO) and buy it with ingame money from other people selling PLEX on the market. No difference with any other items. and BTW a Titan class ship cost like 5 times that loss (80 B+ ISK) and these die too =)
I must agree. I haven't used Linux in a while. I was using it as a desktop on a box and as a firewall on another. I was using Slackware (~7.0) and well, as far as I was able to tell, I could do anything with it. Switch desktop manager, disable everything, just do FTP serv, burn CD... etc.. I am wondering why one would fit better to a non-expert user than another. It is not all the same ?
But these guys who own MySpace are wearing ties, so it's OK if they owe money to artists and do not pay.
"That's a very poor argument. You can swap out "church" for almost any other childhood activity. For example, soccer:"
A soccer coach has less scope for compelling sodomy than does a priest representing an imaginary celestial friend.
[...]
If we isolate variables, for all setbacks being equal for church and soccer (abuses, brainwashing, training), maybe soccer teach tactics, teamwork and make you healthy. I don't know what is the 'altar boy experience' is giving as an advantage in this context.
BTW, soccer coaches aren't paying hundreds of millions of dollars in pedophilia settlement money.
But adult soccer players may be payed millions of dollar! Not adult altar boy.
PS: I am no altar boy nor a soccer player...
Runescape, as far as MMO's go, is as secure as it can possibly be.
AP - Quebec - Another teen corpse missing fingers and eyes was found Saturday in the vicinity of Quebec's biggest internet cafe.
Hmm didn't knew Quebec was having internet...
And NetBSD ?
About Canadian healthcare, where there was only a 'single payer' system. It's no longer true, at least in Quebec, where it is possible to have any kind of services if you got the money : http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/06/09/newscoc-health050609.html
I'am almost 32, and like you, I did not complete a CS degree when I was 21. But, I've been working as a programmer, DBA, project manager, system administrator for the last 10 years, with some pretty good money. I then decide that it was enough, that I need to have this CS done at once. But wait.. They won't accept me at first because I haven't been at school for a while (universite de montreal, that is). I have to do some credits to 'prove' that I am still schoolworthy. I don't think it's much fun first, I wanna do CS. But while doing these credits, I discover that I can really use my computer skills at a professionnal level, but in another faculty. So I've applied in an Environmental Geography program, and I like it ! I've been doing it for a year now, doing remote-sensing and numbercrunching with ease. I work part time at my last employer, and it's ok. Less money, but enough to do a trip per 2 years oversea, +the usual stuff. I think that when you are 30 and going back to school, you really know what you like, and what you don't, compared to youngster around. And experience cannot be so much learn at school neither, so you can really keep it up if you want it. Good luck to you ! flak