Yes, that idea is silly. The actual Fermi idea that "if there was life out there it would have colonized the entire galaxy already, and we wouldn't be here asking if there is life out there" holds a lot more of water.
I never understood how that held any water whatsoever. For the civilization who did do it, wouldn't that argument be just as valid? Why weren't they overran?
And yet here we are. We may be about to be overrun or we may be about (5k years?) to overrun our galaxy. The Fermi Paradox is no paradox. The paradox has to assume that the universe has been in existence forever for the paradox to be a paradox; otherwise, the fact that numerous life forms are in a race makes MUCH more sense.
LOL, he is crazy. You do have to admit though the World Trade Center towers falling looked a bit odd for structures that failed. They should not have dropped perfectly like that if they were falling purely due to structural failure.
The only sensible explanation is that they were too heavily damaged and were about to become a serious danger to the folks in the surrounding buildings so they dropped them on purpose to save lives... but how do you explain something like that to a frothing-at-the-mouth mob? You do not. You call it structural failure and let the conspiracy nuts run wild. And who knows, maybe we were just lucky and they fell perfectly because of perfect damage across both towers.;)
You are correct in your assessment. There was some lying going on, but isn't there always? The parent poster is indeed crazy with the conspiracy theories.
There was no absence of aristocracy amongst the founding fathers.
Erm, not everyone who signed the Declaration of Independence was awesome. Most (Alexander Hamilton) were utter jackasses who were authoritarian freaks. Those guys only signed because they hoped to benefit from it financially in the long run.
I consider Thomas Jefferson to be one of the ultimate founding fathers, but so few people care what he wrote, said, or did (except having sex with a woman he owned). When I think of the principles that America was founded upon, I reach for his writings.
I guess I am kind of dancing around the no true Scotsman thing here but really, not everyone who signed the Declaration agreed on the principles with which the country was founded.
Ah, Stallman. He's full of wisdom but continually misses the most important thing about trying to get your message across - appearances matter.
Does it -really- matter though? He has raised awareness to the only people who will care anyways. Nobody else will care until they are fully victimized and even then, they will have no idea what the real problem is.
I suspect RMS is doing just fine with his message even without the flashy suit and slick smiles and assurances. His message is probably more real to those who care because of the lack of those things.
Hipsters buy Mac's, not heavy users. People buy Mac's because they hate windows, not because Mac's are any better (in fact, given the limited and overpriced hardware choices, they are a lot worse).
You do realize that Apple has the -only- desktop *nix with a decent user interface, right? Lot's of power users use them for that reason alone. My Macbook Pro has an Nvidia chipset in it.
That being said, I am not in the market to buy any more Apple stuff.
Apple is already dead to me. I tried to like their Macbook Pro line of laptops, I have the 5.1 version of it currently and it will be my last. The last *nix with a decent UI.:(
I would be interested in an ARM based laptop running Linux. The battery life would be amazing. The performance would be an issue sometimes, especially when compiling, but I survived compiling Linux on a 386DX clocked at 33 MHZ. Surely a modern ARM CPU is much more powerful than that? I know, the kernel has exploded in size since then... ah well.
I am sure there must be some ARM based laptops already but I bet they have crappy little screens and crappy little keyboards.
I am shocked that nobody here has much of a suggestion.
It is clear that you do not understand the situation. I have seen entire cities (San Diego) and entire states (Arizona) taken off line by DDoS attacks. You think a smallish company can do anything at all to defend?
There are some things you can do to mitigate against weak players, distributed hosting and/or using a service provider with huge pipes, but really, there is still jack and shit that can be done when terabits of data go flying around on gigabit links.
Concerning option A. I seem to recall the FBI not caring about anything with a dollar value of less than five thousand dollars. My memory may be incorrect. *shrug*
Any job that can be eliminated through technological advancement makes people available for more important work.
Except a majority of people are incapable of more important work. We either need a jobs program or we need to just straight out give them money. Even killing them off as dead weight is useless as the same percentages will show up in the next generation. We need to actually find work for them to do.
Let's suppose that somebody at JPL was promoting atheism, complained that the Christmas party should be renamed to the Holiday party, and suggested that California allow gay marriage. Would that be offensive as well?
This is all really simple. Any point of view is tolerable. Any point of view constantly shoved down your throat is intolerable. The first time it happens, speak up so the person is made aware that they have crossed the line from letting their views known to pushing their views onto others. The second time, management should counsel the person. The third time, the person has written their own walking papers. All very simple.
I used to work with some guy who was part of the 5% Nation. The 5% nation is apparently some weird mystical subset of Islam that is/was active on the East Coast of America. During a random discussion at work, I found out that apparently the views of that organization were that all white people were impure (and should be eliminated). I am white. We had no problems at all working together. Needless to say, we did not hang out together after work.
Also, could a religious organization not fire someone who is promoting ideas contrary to the church? Why should a secular organization have to tolerate religious fanaticism if a religious organization does not have to tolerate other views?
That is actually a very good question. I suspect that the correct answer should be that as long as the person is performing their job according to the needs of the organization, then the person should not be fired. Obviously, spouting off atheistic views constantly would be disruptive and should be dealt with.
No you don't. If that's all you wanted, you'd fly first class or business class and get it. What you want is more leg and elbow room and the same amount of money left in your wallet after you buy the ticket.
No. What I want is more leg and elbow room while paying a reasonably higher amount. Paying 8 to 10 times the original ticket cost for 2 more inches in all directions is patently absurd. The pricing model is all fucked up.
I can attest to United having crappy service and British Airways having very good (maybe not quite great but the people are awesome) service. Qatar Airways is another very good airline, especially first class (long story but I was absolutely drop dead impressed. Free medical services? Unheard of.).
Oh really? First Class in the civilized world is incredibly and insanely overpriced. A ticket that would cost me about a thousand dollars balloons to well over 8 thousand dollars when it is first class. Outside of the civilized world, a similar ticket might be 2 thousand for coach and 35 hundred for first class. I pay the $3,500 but not the $8,000+.
Hm. In Colorado, it is stated quite clearly on the gas pumps that during winter months, the fuel is impregnated with 10% ethanol to combat smog. I am not there currently, but IIRC, it also says something about getting reduced gas mileage.
Also, turbochargers and intercoolers add cost, size and weight.
Turbos add cost certainly (probably about $1k for production vehicles). The weight is negligible. It does not add to the size of the car at all.
It's not a slam dunk to use a turbocharged 4 over a V6.
It is always a slam dunk to use forced induction over natural aspiration. Naturally aspirated cars vary greatly in performance depending upon atmospheric conditions. Of course, forced inductions vehicles performance vary as well, but the performance does not vary anywhere near as much.
For example, take a car to 5,000 feet above sea level. A naturally aspirated engine has already lost 10% of its maximum power output. An engine using forced induction takes 10% longer to gain the same power it had at sea level. Roughly.
To add insult to injury, you always hear, "American enginners are the best!"...and stuff like, "The best products are made in America!" Ohh Jeeze..!
American engineers may (not likely) be best but oh my god... never ever ever buy an American vehicle.
American automakers produce absolutely unmitigated crap. I am guessing it is the beancounters that are responsible. American cars are built just good enough to be called cars, but to drive one is a very unpleasant experience. Even bottom of the barrel Japanese cars are more pleasant to drive than the very best of American cars (except for the Corvette).
Odd. I routinely get better (and worse!) than EPA guesstimates from every single car I have driven throughout my life. I assumed they must be doing some deranged math to get those numbers.
For example, I had a 2006 Subaru Legacy GT. The city and highway miles were listed as 17/24 (22?) iirc. In serious city driving, I would closer to 12 mpg. I once achieved 30 MPG driving in the mountains from Colorado Springs to Denver and then on highway from Denver back to Colorado Springs, 28 MPG. I would routinely get 25 to 27 mpg for highway driving. Oddly, with cruise control enabled, I would get exactly 24 MPG. This was an automatic transmission so I am unsure what the difference could have been.
Well, I really have no idea what Satanism is either. I just know that Christians hate it. We could change it to Gay Marriage club meetings instead to keep my question relevant.
Yes, that idea is silly. The actual Fermi idea that "if there was life out there it would have colonized the entire galaxy already, and we wouldn't be here asking if there is life out there" holds a lot more of water.
I never understood how that held any water whatsoever. For the civilization who did do it, wouldn't that argument be just as valid? Why weren't they overran?
And yet here we are. We may be about to be overrun or we may be about (5k years?) to overrun our galaxy. The Fermi Paradox is no paradox. The paradox has to assume that the universe has been in existence forever for the paradox to be a paradox; otherwise, the fact that numerous life forms are in a race makes MUCH more sense.
You are absolutely correct. The main problem with health care is the cost and nothing has been done to address that.
LOL, he is crazy. You do have to admit though the World Trade Center towers falling looked a bit odd for structures that failed. They should not have dropped perfectly like that if they were falling purely due to structural failure.
The only sensible explanation is that they were too heavily damaged and were about to become a serious danger to the folks in the surrounding buildings so they dropped them on purpose to save lives... but how do you explain something like that to a frothing-at-the-mouth mob? You do not. You call it structural failure and let the conspiracy nuts run wild. And who knows, maybe we were just lucky and they fell perfectly because of perfect damage across both towers. ;)
You are correct in your assessment. There was some lying going on, but isn't there always? The parent poster is indeed crazy with the conspiracy theories.
There was no absence of aristocracy amongst the founding fathers.
Erm, not everyone who signed the Declaration of Independence was awesome. Most (Alexander Hamilton) were utter jackasses who were authoritarian freaks. Those guys only signed because they hoped to benefit from it financially in the long run.
I consider Thomas Jefferson to be one of the ultimate founding fathers, but so few people care what he wrote, said, or did (except having sex with a woman he owned). When I think of the principles that America was founded upon, I reach for his writings.
I guess I am kind of dancing around the no true Scotsman thing here but really, not everyone who signed the Declaration agreed on the principles with which the country was founded.
Ah, Stallman. He's full of wisdom but continually misses the most important thing about trying to get your message across - appearances matter.
Does it -really- matter though? He has raised awareness to the only people who will care anyways. Nobody else will care until they are fully victimized and even then, they will have no idea what the real problem is.
I suspect RMS is doing just fine with his message even without the flashy suit and slick smiles and assurances. His message is probably more real to those who care because of the lack of those things.
Hipsters buy Mac's, not heavy users. People buy Mac's because they hate windows, not because Mac's are any better (in fact, given the limited and overpriced hardware choices, they are a lot worse).
You do realize that Apple has the -only- desktop *nix with a decent user interface, right? Lot's of power users use them for that reason alone. My Macbook Pro has an Nvidia chipset in it.
That being said, I am not in the market to buy any more Apple stuff.
Apple is already dead to me. I tried to like their Macbook Pro line of laptops, I have the 5.1 version of it currently and it will be my last. The last *nix with a decent UI. :(
*sigh* Ah well, next lifetime.
I would be interested in an ARM based laptop running Linux. The battery life would be amazing. The performance would be an issue sometimes, especially when compiling, but I survived compiling Linux on a 386DX clocked at 33 MHZ. Surely a modern ARM CPU is much more powerful than that? I know, the kernel has exploded in size since then... ah well.
I am sure there must be some ARM based laptops already but I bet they have crappy little screens and crappy little keyboards.
CAPTCHA is deigns. ROFL.
But the inconvenience of darkness is made up for with reduced gravity!
I am shocked that nobody here has much of a suggestion.
It is clear that you do not understand the situation. I have seen entire cities (San Diego) and entire states (Arizona) taken off line by DDoS attacks. You think a smallish company can do anything at all to defend?
There are some things you can do to mitigate against weak players, distributed hosting and/or using a service provider with huge pipes, but really, there is still jack and shit that can be done when terabits of data go flying around on gigabit links.
Concerning option A. I seem to recall the FBI not caring about anything with a dollar value of less than five thousand dollars. My memory may be incorrect. *shrug*
Spend the 400$ on a computer-forensics investigator, find out who is doing this then contact law-enforcement.
LOL. $400 will not get you far in an investigation. For a cheap investigator, that might get you 4 hours of work.
Any job that can be eliminated through technological advancement makes people available for more important work.
Except a majority of people are incapable of more important work. We either need a jobs program or we need to just straight out give them money. Even killing them off as dead weight is useless as the same percentages will show up in the next generation. We need to actually find work for them to do.
Let's suppose that somebody at JPL was promoting atheism, complained that the Christmas party should be renamed to the Holiday party, and suggested that California allow gay marriage. Would that be offensive as well?
This is all really simple. Any point of view is tolerable. Any point of view constantly shoved down your throat is intolerable. The first time it happens, speak up so the person is made aware that they have crossed the line from letting their views known to pushing their views onto others. The second time, management should counsel the person. The third time, the person has written their own walking papers. All very simple.
I used to work with some guy who was part of the 5% Nation. The 5% nation is apparently some weird mystical subset of Islam that is/was active on the East Coast of America. During a random discussion at work, I found out that apparently the views of that organization were that all white people were impure (and should be eliminated). I am white. We had no problems at all working together. Needless to say, we did not hang out together after work.
Also, could a religious organization not fire someone who is promoting ideas contrary to the church? Why should a secular organization have to tolerate religious fanaticism if a religious organization does not have to tolerate other views?
That is actually a very good question. I suspect that the correct answer should be that as long as the person is performing their job according to the needs of the organization, then the person should not be fired. Obviously, spouting off atheistic views constantly would be disruptive and should be dealt with.
No you don't. If that's all you wanted, you'd fly first class or business class and get it. What you want is more leg and elbow room and the same amount of money left in your wallet after you buy the ticket.
No. What I want is more leg and elbow room while paying a reasonably higher amount. Paying 8 to 10 times the original ticket cost for 2 more inches in all directions is patently absurd. The pricing model is all fucked up.
I can attest to United having crappy service and British Airways having very good (maybe not quite great but the people are awesome) service. Qatar Airways is another very good airline, especially first class (long story but I was absolutely drop dead impressed. Free medical services? Unheard of.).
Oh really? First Class in the civilized world is incredibly and insanely overpriced. A ticket that would cost me about a thousand dollars balloons to well over 8 thousand dollars when it is first class. Outside of the civilized world, a similar ticket might be 2 thousand for coach and 35 hundred for first class. I pay the $3,500 but not the $8,000+.
Hm. In Colorado, it is stated quite clearly on the gas pumps that during winter months, the fuel is impregnated with 10% ethanol to combat smog. I am not there currently, but IIRC, it also says something about getting reduced gas mileage.
Also, turbochargers and intercoolers add cost, size and weight.
Turbos add cost certainly (probably about $1k for production vehicles). The weight is negligible. It does not add to the size of the car at all.
It's not a slam dunk to use a turbocharged 4 over a V6.
It is always a slam dunk to use forced induction over natural aspiration. Naturally aspirated cars vary greatly in performance depending upon atmospheric conditions. Of course, forced inductions vehicles performance vary as well, but the performance does not vary anywhere near as much.
For example, take a car to 5,000 feet above sea level. A naturally aspirated engine has already lost 10% of its maximum power output. An engine using forced induction takes 10% longer to gain the same power it had at sea level. Roughly.
To add insult to injury, you always hear, "American enginners are the best!"...and stuff like, "The best products are made in America!" Ohh Jeeze..!
American engineers may (not likely) be best but oh my god... never ever ever buy an American vehicle.
American automakers produce absolutely unmitigated crap. I am guessing it is the beancounters that are responsible. American cars are built just good enough to be called cars, but to drive one is a very unpleasant experience. Even bottom of the barrel Japanese cars are more pleasant to drive than the very best of American cars (except for the Corvette).
Never ever buy an American car.
Odd. I routinely get better (and worse!) than EPA guesstimates from every single car I have driven throughout my life. I assumed they must be doing some deranged math to get those numbers.
For example, I had a 2006 Subaru Legacy GT. The city and highway miles were listed as 17/24 (22?) iirc. In serious city driving, I would closer to 12 mpg. I once achieved 30 MPG driving in the mountains from Colorado Springs to Denver and then on highway from Denver back to Colorado Springs, 28 MPG. I would routinely get 25 to 27 mpg for highway driving. Oddly, with cruise control enabled, I would get exactly 24 MPG. This was an automatic transmission so I am unsure what the difference could have been.
How very fortunate for you. I routinely get told my pay would be doubled if only I had a degree, ANY degree. It is what it is. :/
Well, I really have no idea what Satanism is either. I just know that Christians hate it. We could change it to Gay Marriage club meetings instead to keep my question relevant.