Taking money from others' credit cards, breaking into accounts of minors, disrupting companies' business operations seem to me violent enough.
be be paid for by....?
As I said, it should gradually become a priority and handled by an international effort. We rely heavily on computer networks. Most of money, by the way, is electronic already. People, who are to work in the air, in aircraft, I am sure, not amused when someone try to break into their systems. And role of computer networks will be only growing.
Damaging the network and servers should be viewed as a crime against humanity. It is sort of a weapon of mass destruction.
The cost of isolating and re-training malicious "programmers" can be minimized by a good old outsourcing. For example, in Russian Federation's northern parts there are places where a camp can be organized without an expensive fence and perimeter guards. It is just impossible to walk away from there.
I listen to a radio show where they talked about it. How young German convicts are being sent nowadays to serve some of their time in remote areas of Siberia.
It is high time that the international community makes such hackers' attacks a priority. The perpetrators should be aggressively persecuted.
There are the international organizations already for this task: ITU International Telecommunication Union www.itu.int , part of the UN, and INTERPOL www.interpol.int
It is not possible to protect anything, anything, by only passive measures. One can break any steel reinforced door with a sledgehammer for 10 minutes, explode any bridge, no matter how strong or well constructed, etc.
It is the combination of passive and active measures, which provides security.
The privacy and security of millions are under question. And what make the governments, whose profession is the protection of the population, - nothing. Not a single move.
Someone can steal my and your private information, commit an identity theft, break in into the accounts of minors, etc. and it seems to be of no concern whatsoever to anyone, except of some high-forehead engineers.
But it is the job of not only engineers, but for the police officers with badges, handcuffs, and guns. By a keyboard only it is not possible to handle this evil, which threatens the modern global infrastructure.
Such hackers should be placed into the correction institutions for years, where there is not access to computers and network, and re-trained into non-computing vocations: woodworking, sewing, etc.
Just try it, but write all details carefully in Russian language. Do not try to file complaint in English.
One might have an impression that it will not work, but give it a try. For example, when 8 years old Justin Hansen (adopted Artem Saveyev) was sent by his mother from D.C. alone to Moscow with a note that she does not want to keep him anymore, it was a driver in Moscow who spent a lot of time and effort that this child did not end up sleeping in the street http://www.moscow-driver.com/news/2010-04-09.html
Just find someone who can write in good Russian and file a detailed complaint at the Russian police website http://www.mvd.ru/
You are to file an official complaint to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russian Federation www.mvd.ru , into the department "K" (Fight against Computer Crimes).
The website in Russian language, but I think it is not difficult to find someone who studied Russian in a school or know it natively. It may well work.
What about us, who is outside the USA? There should be a serious systematic coordinated international police effort to fight cyberattacks.
The USA is one of the main countries of origin of spam http://thegrebs.com/spam/ . What about this? The US army cannot take action inside the country.
It is good that bureaucrats at last began to notice the net. But they should lift from chairs and do some real work on global cyber-security and order. People around the world try to run businesses in the Internet, and hiding in a fortress is not an answer. Let alone producing massive Internet disruptions in return.
Instead of real systematic work flashes of senseless military fury. That is how I see it.
Relying on one and only employee, vendor, OS, etc. is a recipe for disaster. I have on my computer 2 OSs with dual boot. Why not? The hard disks nowadays are immense.
I use mainly Windows, but sometimes I use and regularly update another OS. Just not to rely on one. I try to use this approach in all computer related matters. It is hard learned lesson.
I welcome OS/2 back! Why not to have 3 - 4 excellent OSs? And let them compete. If one is too ahead of others let make an effort to support others too. Otherwise it will end up as it always end up with a monopoly.
It is so easy to install 2 OSs on computer with dual boot menu at start up. This not only support other OSs, but makes "work" of computer viruses' authors much harder, as we move from a mono-culture in this way.
It will bring some business and money into our parts, into Eurasia.
By the way, I've bought several items in the original US company shop "Levi Strauss & Co." today. That how it works.
By the way the clothing, which this company produces, is of superb quality. Sometimes I see the items of this trade mark in other shops, but those that sold in the original shops are different, of much better quality and choice.
Since the USA buys services from our industries, I'll try to buy the US goods and services too.
Of course, we realize that the US ruling political group needs this agreement just because its anti-missile shield can handle only a certain limit of missiles simultaneously.
So they want to make their anti-missile shield more effective to re-play this one way or another: http://phobos.ramapo.edu/~theed/Cold_War/b_Stalin_era/b_Yalta/Images/march.jpg Those who will own the vast resources of the immense landmass of Siberia will have a strategic advantage in global economy. It is just the matter of time.
I think the government of RF still agreed on it just to reduce the risk of an accident similar to 9/11, when some terrorists get control of nuclear missiles and then make some bad unpredictable thing with it. It is still easier to guard 1500 warheads than 2500.
But it is also clear that this is just a temporal measure. The real global security could provided by moving to more fair world with co-development, compulsory elementary education, total global access to health-care, clean water, housing, integration, etc.
Capital punishment can be used for political reasons. But it is not hard to fabricate a case and execute a person without declaring it to be a political reason.
It seems to me like a true global leadership. Not fighting with illiterate mountain tribes for years, or burning oil wells, but connecting people. Building trade, trust, and prosperity.
I want such a high speed rail in Eurasia. It would be very convenient to me. It is too expensive and scary to fly all the time.
What the h... we want more from China? They want to connect to us, do not they?
But shallow politicians still think in colonial terms: destabilize a land, grab its riches, and runaway with it.
I think Google shall return into China. I have some interest in Google, not much. Still it is my money.
The Chinese people have all the reason in the world to be cautious in dealing with the West. Just read history books or articles.
I think we should build trust, reach out, cooperate, etc., not throwing out ultimatums.
Sergey is a businessman and programmer. He shall not go into politics. He is not strong in this domain.
Chinese people want to build prosperity and democracy in an organized way. They just want to have some peace in their multinational and still developing country. I do not appreciate futile attempts to destabilize China at all.
China suggested recently to build by a common effort a high-speed railway network in Eurasia, all the way to Western Europe. China does want co-operate with other countries and build common Eurasian market. But maybe this is the reason of this hoopla. Strong rich Eurasia, the continent of 4 billion, is not in the interest of the Ocean Civilization.
The Ocean Civilization does everything to divide Eurasia, the Continent Civilization.
A guru (Sanskrit: ) is one who is regarded as having great knowledge, wisdom and authority in a certain area, and who uses it to guide others (teacher).In sanskrit gu means darkness & ru means light. As a principle for the development of consciousness it leads the creation from unreality to reality, from the darkness of ignorance to the light of knowledge. In its purest form this principle manifests on earth as a divine incarnation (saint), a person with supreme knowledge about God and all creation.[1] Other forms of manifestation of this principle also include parents, school teachers [1], non-human objects (books) and even one's own intellectual discipline.
Try to open a casino in Las Vegas. 1 billion has to change hands. It is probably more than all corruption money in those countries put together.
Or what about that Russian Federation asked the NATO command to destroy the vast heroin fields in Afghanistan, provided detailed locations and photos from space, and got a refusal?
"Why worry about a speck in your friend's eye when you have a log in your own?" Matthew 7:3
But of course, the USA is the most rich and prosperous country in the world. No argument about this.
My point was that by getting the quality education in the Moscow State University they've got the opportunity to succeed later in the USA.
It was not a bad thing for them.
People, when they get an economical success in life, sometimes give a present to the university. For example, building a university library, etc.
No one expecting it from Brins, no one expecting even "Thank you." But, maybe, at least, not constant badmouthing. Critic is OK too, but at least with some understanding, with an objectivity.
They conquered the world with this education, earned all money in the world. And "Russia is Nigeria with snow"?
If someone, say, gives me a food when I am hungry. I say: "Thank you". I do not say: "So what? In the USA the food is given free of charge by the Salvation Army." And it is normal. Sort of human.
It is not as simple as that. These people do participate in creation of the GDP, in creation of the income of 300 millions. But they "as if" cease to exist in calculation of the income per capita. It is not linear dependence.
The US statistics tends to not include large parts of society: at that time segregated people, nowadays tens of million of "illegal aliens". If it were also including all people living in the country the figures would not be that impressive.
True. Some Russians are strange. It is a result of being isolated behind an iron curtain. The world is globalizing. Gerhard Schröder works in Russia, we work in Europe...
Thank you for advice. English is important indeed. But if it were only English. Sigh... I am in Europe and have to study French and German too. French is especially hard, because there are sounds, which are difficult to reproduce.
My point was that we, Russians, found ourselves in the position of Jews in the USSR. Of course, there is a "glass ceiling". I read that even for Americans, who work in Japanese companies, there is a "glass ceiling" too. And often they quit after some time and return to work in the US companies.
But, probably those, who tried really hard, like this my Jewish professor, could go through this "glass ceiling".
On the other hand returning into, say, FSU companies is also an option. From a position of a supervisor, to a position of, say, a vice-president (6 room apartment in a luxury building for openers).
By the way, many FSU companies nowadays are run by Jews. Nobody, absolutely nobody can buy and sell better than Jews.
I would not say that life was too good in the USSR in 79. It was sort of boring mostly.
I had in the university in the USSR a professor, a Jew, with a Jewish family name. I liked his lectures most of all. His presentation was very good and he knew his field of theoretical mathematics well.
I've met him recently. And he gave me a very good advice.
I told him that I worked at a western company and that there was a "glass ceiling" for Russian people in such companies. I told him that to get 5, one needs to know not by 10, but by 20. It was an allusion on a saying in the USSR, that a Jew to get an excellent mark, 5, in the university had to know by 10 (non-existent mark, as 5 was the highest).
And he told me: "So what. Just learn by 20. It should be fun."
I mean, probably there was an antisemitism in the USSR, but, at least, in some cases there were normal relations. I considered him to be the best professor in the university, and, by the way, I told him about it during this recent meeting.
I wrote that the USSR was not a nice place and why. But the fact that his parents could get University education for free in the Moscow State University speaks for itself. And that is they could find themselves well employed in the USA and give good education to Sergey.
In the USA they would not be even allowed to enter Yale university for 5 minutes for free.
I've met such people before. During USSR time they were attacking the Terrible Capitalism, and when it became profitable, they've just changed colors, and flatter the New Masters.
Stereotypes. I was nearly shot at Southern Washington D.C., while being there as a tourist. But nothing even remotely like this happened to me in Russia.
Does it mean that the USA is a bad dangerous place? Of course, not. It is a great interesting country.
If you happened to find yourself in a bad condition while in Russia does not mean that all people there live in a bad condition.
There are people who live well and happily in Russia and there are people who find themselves on the street begging in the USA. And vice-versa.
I've met it in this incredible book by by Dr. Clayton E. Tucker-Ladd "Psychological Self-Help" http://www.psychologicalselfhelp.org/ , which is available on-line.
His parents graduated the Moscow State University. They did not pay for their studies at all, not a penny. His parents are mathematicians.
Yes, the USSR was not too nice a place, its population is being traumatized by an ugly massive civil war, which is not over even by now, and WW2. But sometimes one could at least say "Thank you" for those good things.
No. Sergey says only bad things about his motherland. For example, he said that Russia is "Nigeria with snow". And here again, that he even in 6 years knew oppression (what cannot be true).
Psychologists advise keep away from individuals who hate their parents. I think this is about the same case. A shallow ungrateful, but lucky mushroom.
Residence cards, visas, etc. only increase illegal immigration. These documents can be obtained one way or another, after that they keep people from returning to their home countries, as they have invested into these residence cards.
If there were no visas, no residence cards, no passports, people would come and go home after a while. They would not stick to a certain country, because they had bought a residence card there.
Such residence ID cards are good for officials who would be able to sell them one way or another, but they have nothing to do with reducing illegal immigration.
Market forces would be able to regulate migration global-wise much better than corrupted officials at different countries.
In Kenya, Niger, China, Ireland, etc. there are nice places near rivers, in the woods, where it would be nice to build a house and live. Let those, who want emigrate from these countries, emigrate and those who want to come and live there, come and live there.
Crime? There should be built more modern automated prisons where criminals could be re-educated and reformed. These are the criminals of the Earth and are common global responsibility.
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No nonviolent criminal should ever go to jail.
Taking money from others' credit cards, breaking into accounts of minors, disrupting companies' business operations seem to me violent enough.
be be paid for by....?
As I said, it should gradually become a priority and handled by an international effort. We rely heavily on computer networks. Most of money, by the way, is electronic already. People, who are to work in the air, in aircraft, I am sure, not amused when someone try to break into their systems. And role of computer networks will be only growing.
Damaging the network and servers should be viewed as a crime against humanity. It is sort of a weapon of mass destruction.
The cost of isolating and re-training malicious "programmers" can be minimized by a good old outsourcing. For example, in Russian Federation's northern parts there are places where a camp can be organized without an expensive fence and perimeter guards. It is just impossible to walk away from there.
I listen to a radio show where they talked about it. How young German convicts are being sent nowadays to serve some of their time in remote areas of Siberia.
It is high time that the international community makes such hackers' attacks a priority. The perpetrators should be aggressively persecuted.
There are the international organizations already for this task: ITU International Telecommunication Union www.itu.int , part of the UN, and INTERPOL www.interpol.int
It is not possible to protect anything, anything, by only passive measures. One can break any steel reinforced door with a sledgehammer for 10 minutes, explode any bridge, no matter how strong or well constructed, etc.
It is the combination of passive and active measures, which provides security.
The privacy and security of millions are under question. And what make the governments, whose profession is the protection of the population, - nothing. Not a single move.
Someone can steal my and your private information, commit an identity theft, break in into the accounts of minors, etc. and it seems to be of no concern whatsoever to anyone, except of some high-forehead engineers.
But it is the job of not only engineers, but for the police officers with badges, handcuffs, and guns. By a keyboard only it is not possible to handle this evil, which threatens the modern global infrastructure.
Such hackers should be placed into the correction institutions for years, where there is not access to computers and network, and re-trained into non-computing vocations: woodworking, sewing, etc.
Just try it, but write all details carefully in Russian language. Do not try to file complaint in English.
One might have an impression that it will not work, but give it a try. For example, when 8 years old Justin Hansen (adopted Artem Saveyev) was sent by his mother from D.C. alone to Moscow with a note that she does not want to keep him anymore, it was a driver in Moscow who spent a lot of time and effort that this child did not end up sleeping in the street http://www.moscow-driver.com/news/2010-04-09.html
Just find someone who can write in good Russian and file a detailed complaint at the Russian police website http://www.mvd.ru/
You are to file an official complaint to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russian Federation www.mvd.ru , into the department "K" (Fight against Computer Crimes).
The website in Russian language, but I think it is not difficult to find someone who studied Russian in a school or know it natively. It may well work.
What about us, who is outside the USA? There should be a serious systematic coordinated international police effort to fight cyberattacks.
The USA is one of the main countries of origin of spam http://thegrebs.com/spam/ . What about this? The US army cannot take action inside the country.
It is good that bureaucrats at last began to notice the net. But they should lift from chairs and do some real work on global cyber-security and order. People around the world try to run businesses in the Internet, and hiding in a fortress is not an answer. Let alone producing massive Internet disruptions in return.
Instead of real systematic work flashes of senseless military fury. That is how I see it.
Relying on one and only employee, vendor, OS, etc. is a recipe for disaster. I have on my computer 2 OSs with dual boot. Why not? The hard disks nowadays are immense.
I use mainly Windows, but sometimes I use and regularly update another OS. Just not to rely on one. I try to use this approach in all computer related matters. It is hard learned lesson.
I welcome OS/2 back! Why not to have 3 - 4 excellent OSs? And let them compete. If one is too ahead of others let make an effort to support others too. Otherwise it will end up as it always end up with a monopoly.
It is so easy to install 2 OSs on computer with dual boot menu at start up. This not only support other OSs, but makes "work" of computer viruses' authors much harder, as we move from a mono-culture in this way.
It will bring some business and money into our parts, into Eurasia.
By the way, I've bought several items in the original US company shop "Levi Strauss & Co." today. That how it works.
By the way the clothing, which this company produces, is of superb quality. Sometimes I see the items of this trade mark in other shops, but those that sold in the original shops are different, of much better quality and choice.
Since the USA buys services from our industries, I'll try to buy the US goods and services too.
Is it sort of civil war? Ethnic or race conflict? Why do not I find a gun somewhere and start shooting?
These therms are confusing: "shooting", "violence", "crime", etc. Can anyone explain in plain English words what is going on in Chicago. And why?
Of course, we realize that the US ruling political group needs this agreement just because its anti-missile shield can handle only a certain limit of missiles simultaneously.
So they want to make their anti-missile shield more effective to re-play this one way or another: http://phobos.ramapo.edu/~theed/Cold_War/b_Stalin_era/b_Yalta/Images/march.jpg Those who will own the vast resources of the immense landmass of Siberia will have a strategic advantage in global economy. It is just the matter of time.
I think the government of RF still agreed on it just to reduce the risk of an accident similar to 9/11, when some terrorists get control of nuclear missiles and then make some bad unpredictable thing with it. It is still easier to guard 1500 warheads than 2500.
But it is also clear that this is just a temporal measure. The real global security could provided by moving to more fair world with co-development, compulsory elementary education, total global access to health-care, clean water, housing, integration, etc.
Here is the map of "Use of capital punishment by nation" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_capital_punishment_by_nation
Capital punishment can be used for political reasons. But it is not hard to fabricate a case and execute a person without declaring it to be a political reason.
China To Connect Its High Speed Rail All The Way To Europe
http://www.inhabitat.com/2010/03/15/china-to-connect-its-high-speed-rail-all-the-way-to-europe/
It seems to me like a true global leadership. Not fighting with illiterate mountain tribes for years, or burning oil wells, but connecting people. Building trade, trust, and prosperity.
I want such a high speed rail in Eurasia. It would be very convenient to me. It is too expensive and scary to fly all the time.
What the h... we want more from China? They want to connect to us, do not they?
But shallow politicians still think in colonial terms: destabilize a land, grab its riches, and runaway with it.
I think Google shall return into China. I have some interest in Google, not much. Still it is my money.
The Chinese people have all the reason in the world to be cautious in dealing with the West. Just read history books or articles.
I think we should build trust, reach out, cooperate, etc., not throwing out ultimatums.
Sergey is a businessman and programmer. He shall not go into politics. He is not strong in this domain.
Chinese people want to build prosperity and democracy in an organized way. They just want to have some peace in their multinational and still developing country. I do not appreciate futile attempts to destabilize China at all.
China suggested recently to build by a common effort a high-speed railway network in Eurasia, all the way to Western Europe. China does want co-operate with other countries and build common Eurasian market. But maybe this is the reason of this hoopla. Strong rich Eurasia, the continent of 4 billion, is not in the interest of the Ocean Civilization.
The Ocean Civilization does everything to divide Eurasia, the Continent Civilization.
And Google as Guru
A guru (Sanskrit: ) is one who is regarded as having great knowledge, wisdom and authority in a certain area, and who uses it to guide others (teacher).In sanskrit gu means darkness & ru means light. As a principle for the development of consciousness it leads the creation from unreality to reality, from the darkness of ignorance to the light of knowledge. In its purest form this principle manifests on earth as a divine incarnation (saint), a person with supreme knowledge about God and all creation.[1] Other forms of manifestation of this principle also include parents, school teachers [1], non-human objects (books) and even one's own intellectual discipline.
Try to open a casino in Las Vegas. 1 billion has to change hands. It is probably more than all corruption money in those countries put together.
Or what about that Russian Federation asked the NATO command to destroy the vast heroin fields in Afghanistan, provided detailed locations and photos from space, and got a refusal?
"Why worry about a speck in your friend's eye when you have a log in your own?" Matthew 7:3
But of course, the USA is the most rich and prosperous country in the world. No argument about this.
My point was that by getting the quality education in the Moscow State University they've got the opportunity to succeed later in the USA.
It was not a bad thing for them.
People, when they get an economical success in life, sometimes give a present to the university. For example, building a university library, etc.
No one expecting it from Brins, no one expecting even "Thank you." But, maybe, at least, not constant badmouthing. Critic is OK too, but at least with some understanding, with an objectivity.
They conquered the world with this education, earned all money in the world. And "Russia is Nigeria with snow"?
If someone, say, gives me a food when I am hungry. I say: "Thank you". I do not say: "So what? In the USA the food is given free of charge by the Salvation Army." And it is normal. Sort of human.
It is not as simple as that. These people do participate in creation of the GDP, in creation of the income of 300 millions. But they "as if" cease to exist in calculation of the income per capita. It is not linear dependence.
The US statistics tends to not include large parts of society: at that time segregated people, nowadays tens of million of "illegal aliens". If it were also including all people living in the country the figures would not be that impressive.
True. Some Russians are strange. It is a result of being isolated behind an iron curtain. The world is globalizing. Gerhard Schröder works in Russia, we work in Europe...
Thank you for advice. English is important indeed. But if it were only English. Sigh... I am in Europe and have to study French and German too. French is especially hard, because there are sounds, which are difficult to reproduce.
My point was that we, Russians, found ourselves in the position of Jews in the USSR. Of course, there is a "glass ceiling". I read that even for Americans, who work in Japanese companies, there is a "glass ceiling" too. And often they quit after some time and return to work in the US companies.
But, probably those, who tried really hard, like this my Jewish professor, could go through this "glass ceiling".
On the other hand returning into, say, FSU companies is also an option. From a position of a supervisor, to a position of, say, a vice-president (6 room apartment in a luxury building for openers).
By the way, many FSU companies nowadays are run by Jews. Nobody, absolutely nobody can buy and sell better than Jews.
I would not say that life was too good in the USSR in 79. It was sort of boring mostly.
I had in the university in the USSR a professor, a Jew, with a Jewish family name. I liked his lectures most of all. His presentation was very good and he knew his field of theoretical mathematics well.
I've met him recently. And he gave me a very good advice.
I told him that I worked at a western company and that there was a "glass ceiling" for Russian people in such companies. I told him that to get 5, one needs to know not by 10, but by 20. It was an allusion on a saying in the USSR, that a Jew to get an excellent mark, 5, in the university had to know by 10 (non-existent mark, as 5 was the highest).
And he told me: "So what. Just learn by 20. It should be fun."
I mean, probably there was an antisemitism in the USSR, but, at least, in some cases there were normal relations. I considered him to be the best professor in the university, and, by the way, I told him about it during this recent meeting.
I wrote that the USSR was not a nice place and why. But the fact that his parents could get University education for free in the Moscow State University speaks for itself. And that is they could find themselves well employed in the USA and give good education to Sergey.
In the USA they would not be even allowed to enter Yale university for 5 minutes for free.
I've met such people before. During USSR time they were attacking the Terrible Capitalism, and when it became profitable, they've just changed colors, and flatter the New Masters.
Stereotypes. I was nearly shot at Southern Washington D.C., while being there as a tourist. But nothing even remotely like this happened to me in Russia.
Does it mean that the USA is a bad dangerous place? Of course, not. It is a great interesting country.
If you happened to find yourself in a bad condition while in Russia does not mean that all people there live in a bad condition.
There are people who live well and happily in Russia and there are people who find themselves on the street begging in the USA. And vice-versa.
I've met it in this incredible book by by Dr. Clayton E. Tucker-Ladd "Psychological Self-Help" http://www.psychologicalselfhelp.org/ , which is available on-line.
This book at one point probably saved my life.
His parents graduated the Moscow State University. They did not pay for their studies at all, not a penny. His parents are mathematicians.
Yes, the USSR was not too nice a place, its population is being traumatized by an ugly massive civil war, which is not over even by now, and WW2. But sometimes one could at least say "Thank you" for those good things.
No. Sergey says only bad things about his motherland. For example, he said that Russia is "Nigeria with snow". And here again, that he even in 6 years knew oppression (what cannot be true).
Psychologists advise keep away from individuals who hate their parents. I think this is about the same case. A shallow ungrateful, but lucky mushroom.
Residence cards, visas, etc. only increase illegal immigration. These documents can be obtained one way or another, after that they keep people from returning to their home countries, as they have invested into these residence cards.
If there were no visas, no residence cards, no passports, people would come and go home after a while. They would not stick to a certain country, because they had bought a residence card there.
Such residence ID cards are good for officials who would be able to sell them one way or another, but they have nothing to do with reducing illegal immigration.
Market forces would be able to regulate migration global-wise much better than corrupted officials at different countries.
In Kenya, Niger, China, Ireland, etc. there are nice places near rivers, in the woods, where it would be nice to build a house and live. Let those, who want emigrate from these countries, emigrate and those who want to come and live there, come and live there.
Crime? There should be built more modern automated prisons where criminals could be re-educated and reformed. These are the criminals of the Earth and are common global responsibility.