A permit is irrelevant. Permits allow you to gather, not excuse bad behavior.
There were people in both sides that were equally guilty of misdeeds. To berate only one side would imply endorsement the other.
The bottom line is there were two groups of people out to start trouble. The real question is what is this being used to distract the gullible public from?
These things haven't sprung up recently. You don't get massive volcanoes over-night. It takes hundreds of years to build. Yes these have been here for some time. They may have been dormant all this time. But if the ice was sitting on them that ice would have been moving, and grinding them down.
That means the ice was floating and putting no more pressure on the sea floor than anywhere else under the sea. my take is these have recently become active.
One more thing. If a change in temperature is all it takes to cause an eruption then every spring every volcano exposed to the air would pop.
studies of prior warming periods show a 5-fold increase of vulcanism.
Read that again a few times. If I understand you correctly you believe volcanos become more active because the air or water gets warmer. Rather than the air or water gets warmer because there's more volcanoes spewing mass amounts of heat into the atmosphere / oceans.
If it's the former, you're stating volcanic activity is increased by a few hundredths of a degree of air temperature. Or you're saying the reduction of pressure on the plates caused ( by hot jets melting the ice first ) the increase of volcanoes, which may or may not have increased in activity and have always been there and we just didn't know it.
Consider the following:
If a torch having the same power / heat and laws of thermodynamics aren't altered, Is it more likely that: - A pot of water is going to boil faster when heated from below with a torch. - A pot of water is going to boil faster when heated from above with a torch.
I believe that Volcanic activity is warming up the water beneath the ice sheets. I also know that any single eruption of a volcano dwarfs our contribution to CO2 output from all nations put together.
An astute politician might be able to write some legislation prohibiting volcanic eruptions. Whether or not it will pass might depend on who's in the oval office.
I wasn't contesting water / ice weighing on land and deforming it. I was postulating that it was super-heated venting that melted the ice to reduce the weight thereby increasing volcanic activity to increase the rate at which the ice was melting.
The Chicken and the egg idea I tossed out there was the question whether it was global warming that caused the ice to melt to increase volcanic activity in the area, vs venting of super-heated water that melted the ice to increase the volcanic activity. Probably not the best fit in retrospect.
My vote is on water heated a couple hundred degrees beneath the ice shelf. Seems the more obvious solution. Some may wish to believe otherwise. It would appear the jury is still out. Science is never 'settled'. It's constantly under review.
This feels like a situation of 'which came first, the chicken or the egg?'
While you have a logic point regarding the weight deforming the crust, I think it's an secondary effect of the venting prior and may have predicated the more recent in crease in eruptions.
Ice isn't going to stop Lava, and if you watched videos of Mt. St Helens erupting , blowing thousands of tons of mountainside into the *air* for *miles* a relatively thin sheet of ice isn't going to be a deterrent.
Applying the principle of occam's razor; Increased global geothermal activity has been melting the glaciers. Heat beats Ice.
Here's what bothers me about the whole thing. That speaking your mind and participating in open dialogue should be considered dangerous and viewed as 'a lack of good judgement'.
Sure he has an opinion, everyone does. Even those of us that are too afraid to speak our minds in any way shape fashion or form hold an opinion and it doesn't affect the quality of our work.
The firing of Dames Damore proves sjw bullying is so institutionalized that anyone that disagrees with the herd in this topic face legal retribution for discussing any subject surrounding what constitutes sexism, sexuality, or gender roles and their value to society.
The danger is in this topic has become an acceptable bully platform that is not only tolerated but is now endorsed by big business.
In proactive self defense from the deluge of hate I know will be following my above statement:
I am *all* for equality, the real equality. My wife is an old-school feminist, when boys are sent to better camps than the girls at church we speak up. But we will never stifle an opinion. We will never ostracise or attempt to ruin someone's life simply because we don't agree with them. That's just BS and that's what I see happening at Google.
As a case in point to the stifling effect of this sjw censorship, this post doesn't 'toe the line' and I fully expect to be modded to oblivion for stating an opinion I believe to be an honest observation. But sjw's can't let any claims that they are the bullies to have a wider audience. If not modded down, the admins of this site might remove Karma points. They are owned by big media now.
Or quests for dinner in some far away region only to be told she's no longer in the mood for that and wants to go to the other end of the map for the thing that's a thousand times more expensive and might cause your balls to erupt in flames.
What happens when these cars start sitting in junkyards, leaching into the water supply? Or the ones that are submerged in water for extended periods of time?
It's interesting to note that your rebuttal only address the minerals extracted while trivializing the environmental destruction digging massive pits causes. Just for starters. Sure, you can dig pits for steel and other things too, but as you mentioned, the minerals required for batteries are spread out. Also Iron Ore won't explode when it gets wet. Lithium will.
Recycling batteries is a joke. It's not nearly cost effective enough to happen. The best we can hope is to bury them all in the same place so the next sentient species to come along after us will have new resources to repeat the cycle in the next million or billion years.
While we are on the subject of end of life of batteries lets consider the environmental effects of disposing carbon fiber. As an example, have you ever tried to get rid of a boat or jacuzzi? Have you ever been nearby when something made of carbon fiber burned?
How about a car accident where a lithium ion battery was critically punctured? Also nothing like turning automobiles into easily hackable IEDs that produce noxious fumes after the initial bang.
ICE Cars catch fire, (Hollywood blows them up with dynamite) but won't explode like a giant lithium battery will. Musk want's to put one or more in every home. We need a safer battery solution before these things are on the road. Seriously.
tl;dr There's no consensus on the environmental impact of producing lithium batteries despite your cherry picked sources. The dangers of using and disposing of the batteries are known and real. Poke a hole in your laptop battery if you don't believe me. Just don't do it near anyone or anything you don't want to see destroyed.
As much as I dislike the catastrophic environmental damage EV production causes even *I* have to admit driving more than 150 miles at a time is a major pain in the ass without a significant break.
There's rest areas every 40 miles where people are *supposed* to get out and rest. Forcing the issue by limiting the range would result in major improvements in safety by having less fatigued drivers on the road, and an overall speed reduction because of the reduced speed and cargo capacity of electric vehicles ( with some notable exotic exceptions ( Looking at Tesla )) doesn't hurt.
TBH my Penis is too large to accurately hit the keys I want so it really doesn't count as an extra digit to speed up my typing. If anything, I would spend more time hitting the backspace.
Don't see how else having a dick would help when programming.
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A permit is irrelevant. Permits allow you to gather, not excuse bad behavior.
There were people in both sides that were equally guilty of misdeeds. To berate only one side would imply endorsement the other.
The bottom line is there were two groups of people out to start trouble. The real question is what is this being used to distract the gullible public from?
You prick, now I have the theme song stuck in my head.
Good Thing Trump didn't defend either side.
He called both sides out for bad behavior. And he's right. Both sides were in the wrong. Pure and simple.
Obvious shills are obvious.
*Rolls Eyes*
You could could pay people to walk down the street carrying anything you want shouting 'Heil Musk', that will not make Musk a Nazi sympathizer.
First time people are paid to scream 'Heil Trump' Everyone starts calling him Hitler, and the dumbest ones believe it.
Antifa is a terrorist organization and the 'left' is pathetically obvious in their tactics.
I am sick of the division the media ( entertainment industry ) are fostering, and we as American's are tolerating.
Everyone grow the fuck up and knock it off already.
My apologies. I confused your statement with someone else.
So the terrorists are winning then?
Also,
These things haven't sprung up recently. You don't get massive volcanoes over-night. It takes hundreds of years to build. Yes these have been here for some time. They may have been dormant all this time. But if the ice was sitting on them that ice would have been moving, and grinding them down.
That means the ice was floating and putting no more pressure on the sea floor than anywhere else under the sea. my take is these have recently become active.
One more thing. If a change in temperature is all it takes to cause an eruption then every spring every volcano exposed to the air would pop.
Based on a bit of evidence, both anecdotal and archeological, my bet is Chickens are ancient T-Rex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
studies of prior warming periods show a 5-fold increase of vulcanism.
Read that again a few times. If I understand you correctly you believe volcanos become more active because the air or water gets warmer. Rather than the air or water gets warmer because there's more volcanoes spewing mass amounts of heat into the atmosphere / oceans.
If it's the former, you're stating volcanic activity is increased by a few hundredths of a degree of air temperature. Or you're saying the reduction of pressure on the plates caused ( by hot jets melting the ice first ) the increase of volcanoes, which may or may not have increased in activity and have always been there and we just didn't know it.
Consider the following:
If a torch having the same power / heat and laws of thermodynamics aren't altered, Is it more likely that:
- A pot of water is going to boil faster when heated from below with a torch.
- A pot of water is going to boil faster when heated from above with a torch.
I believe that Volcanic activity is warming up the water beneath the ice sheets. I also know that any single eruption of a volcano dwarfs our contribution to CO2 output from all nations put together.
An astute politician might be able to write some legislation prohibiting volcanic eruptions. Whether or not it will pass might depend on who's in the oval office.
I wasn't contesting water / ice weighing on land and deforming it. I was postulating that it was super-heated venting that melted the ice to reduce the weight thereby increasing volcanic activity to increase the rate at which the ice was melting.
The Chicken and the egg idea I tossed out there was the question whether it was global warming that caused the ice to melt to increase volcanic activity in the area, vs venting of super-heated water that melted the ice to increase the volcanic activity. Probably not the best fit in retrospect.
My vote is on water heated a couple hundred degrees beneath the ice shelf. Seems the more obvious solution. Some may wish to believe otherwise. It would appear the jury is still out. Science is never 'settled'. It's constantly under review.
This feels like a situation of 'which came first, the chicken or the egg?'
While you have a logic point regarding the weight deforming the crust, I think it's an secondary effect of the venting prior and may have predicated the more recent in crease in eruptions.
Venting in the mid Atlantic ridge as an example:
https://link.springer.com/arti...
Wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Ice isn't going to stop Lava, and if you watched videos of Mt. St Helens erupting , blowing thousands of tons of mountainside into the *air* for *miles* a relatively thin sheet of ice isn't going to be a deterrent.
Applying the principle of occam's razor; Increased global geothermal activity has been melting the glaciers. Heat beats Ice.
Can't wait for car manufacturers to start updating firmware / car computers over night or while I am at the store and bricking my car.
a staggering lack of good judgement
Here's what bothers me about the whole thing. That speaking your mind and participating in open dialogue should be considered dangerous and viewed as 'a lack of good judgement'.
Sure he has an opinion, everyone does. Even those of us that are too afraid to speak our minds in any way shape fashion or form hold an opinion and it doesn't affect the quality of our work.
The firing of Dames Damore proves sjw bullying is so institutionalized that anyone that disagrees with the herd in this topic face legal retribution for discussing any subject surrounding what constitutes sexism, sexuality, or gender roles and their value to society.
The danger is in this topic has become an acceptable bully platform that is not only tolerated but is now endorsed by big business.
In proactive self defense from the deluge of hate I know will be following my above statement:
I am *all* for equality, the real equality. My wife is an old-school feminist, when boys are sent to better camps than the girls at church we speak up. But we will never stifle an opinion. We will never ostracise or attempt to ruin someone's life simply because we don't agree with them. That's just BS and that's what I see happening at Google.
As a case in point to the stifling effect of this sjw censorship, this post doesn't 'toe the line' and I fully expect to be modded to oblivion for stating an opinion I believe to be an honest observation. But sjw's can't let any claims that they are the bullies to have a wider audience. If not modded down, the admins of this site might remove Karma points. They are owned by big media now.
Or quests for dinner in some far away region only to be told she's no longer in the mood for that and wants to go to the other end of the map for the thing that's a thousand times more expensive and might cause your balls to erupt in flames.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Google Cobalt Poisoning.
What happens when these cars start sitting in junkyards, leaching into the water supply? Or the ones that are submerged in water for extended periods of time?
It's interesting to note that your rebuttal only address the minerals extracted while trivializing the environmental destruction digging massive pits causes. Just for starters. Sure, you can dig pits for steel and other things too, but as you mentioned, the minerals required for batteries are spread out. Also Iron Ore won't explode when it gets wet. Lithium will.
Recycling batteries is a joke. It's not nearly cost effective enough to happen. The best we can hope is to bury them all in the same place so the next sentient species to come along after us will have new resources to repeat the cycle in the next million or billion years.
While we are on the subject of end of life of batteries lets consider the environmental effects of disposing carbon fiber. As an example, have you ever tried to get rid of a boat or jacuzzi? Have you ever been nearby when something made of carbon fiber burned?
How about a car accident where a lithium ion battery was critically punctured? Also nothing like turning automobiles into easily hackable IEDs that produce noxious fumes after the initial bang.
ICE Cars catch fire, (Hollywood blows them up with dynamite) but won't explode like a giant lithium battery will. Musk want's to put one or more in every home. We need a safer battery solution before these things are on the road. Seriously.
tl;dr
There's no consensus on the environmental impact of producing lithium batteries despite your cherry picked sources. The dangers of using and disposing of the batteries are known and real. Poke a hole in your laptop battery if you don't believe me. Just don't do it near anyone or anything you don't want to see destroyed.
As much as I dislike the catastrophic environmental damage EV production causes even *I* have to admit driving more than 150 miles at a time is a major pain in the ass without a significant break.
There's rest areas every 40 miles where people are *supposed* to get out and rest. Forcing the issue by limiting the range would result in major improvements in safety by having less fatigued drivers on the road, and an overall speed reduction because of the reduced speed and cargo capacity of electric vehicles ( with some notable exotic exceptions ( Looking at Tesla )) doesn't hurt.
TBH my Penis is too large to accurately hit the keys I want so it really doesn't count as an extra digit to speed up my typing. If anything, I would spend more time hitting the backspace.
Don't see how else having a dick would help when programming.
3rd Day in a Row this POS has been on the list.
What the fuck?
I see the self-appointed political correctness army is hot on the case.
You had me until you suggesting the amish as a model of technological adoption. LOL