Nothing says you can't recycle the materials in the panels when they are broken.
You've provided no solutions beyond ones clearly not feasible.
Try 'recycling' lithium ion batteries. Hint: They explode when you puncture them. Lead Acid are way less efficient at storing and releasing energy. What happens when you have a huge buildup of Hydrogen gas produced from charging those? *BOOM*
We have been using solutions that are renewable. Diesel can be produced from vegetable matter, Alcohol for engines burns so clean you can't see the flame and is also easy to produce. These two forms of fuel alone can be produced by anybody in the space of a Garage.
The real root of this is those things can be manufactured by the common man with ease. Though, not batteries, solar panels, etc. Batteries and Solar panels are something that cannot be easily produced by the common man if at all. Once all our energy comes from power generation and batteries we place ourselves completely at the will of 'market forces'.
Quite seriously, you're not buying green technology you're building a dangerous monopoly over energy. Of course somehow magically the businessmen in power will suddenly reject thousands of years of proven bias towards 'what the market will bear' and become savant philanthropists and let the common man have everything for free.
But beyond that the planet has been changing on it's own forces for centuries and will continue to do so.
They reduce the temperature by providing shade, aspirating moisture, as well as provide a root system and topsoil to help hold ground water.
It's this narrow band of knowledge of what tree's provide that's prevalent in describing tree's and all the other technological alternatives so far described that people just aren't paying attention to. So much that we could end up killing our patient ( Earth ) by doing more harm than good.
Ask yourself this question: Is the solution to save the Earth something you're being *sold*? Is the path to saving the planet something you have to *buy*? Feel like a sucker yet?
It's great that everyone wants to 'save the Earth'. All I ask is that the people trying to save it to stop getting their science from the entertainment industry. This means news agencies, movies, paid for presenters like Bill Nye and good marketing PR.
And where do solar panels come from? They don't fall from the sky.
to mine the minerals that go into the mass production of solar panels you must burn fuel that was pumped from the Earth and transported via some method burning fuel. The risk of oil spills is great. Once that crude has made it to the refinery it's refined and the waste gas burned. From the refinery is a number of things the mining equipment needs like Oil, hydraulic fluid, Diesel etc. These things are consumed as machinery ( More mining, manufacturing, shipping to produce these ) decimates large tracts of land destroying the environment that lay in the path of the minerals for our solar panels.
But once the Panels have broken, malfunctioned or otherwise need to be disposed of they create a toxic mess for landfills to try to contain which is another problem altogether.
But lets also consider the real estate they consume to produce electricity under only ideal conditions. http://store.sundancesolar.com...
You really need to start thinking these things through. Take a business class that covers 'true cost of operation' and apply that math to environmental gains in technology. Offsetting a little air quality in favor of decimating the environment and ecology in other nations is a dick move.
I have barely scratched the surface but my goal is more to give you a new direction to think.
There's also this thing called the law of conservation of energy. You're consuming one form of energy to store another, and doing it inefficiently at that..plant.trees.
Except for the whole part of producing CO2 by burning the wood to make the charcoal.
Just plant fucking trees. Terra-form the Deserts. If we can build pipelines to haul oil and fuel we can build pipelines to haul water from flooded areas to areas of drought.
Plant Trees. Don't burn them and bury the charcoal ffs.
There have been tons of applications that I have loved that had reached a perfect balance of usability and performance. Then the dev takes the development beyond useful with shit like skins or Adding this or that and it begins a downward spiral. Instead of calling the work 'good' and doing something new they latched onto their one app as cash cow to start milking their existing customers for upgrades.
Winamp was a prime example of this. When it came out it worked, it had a minimal footprint and was lightweight. Same for the image utility Acdsee, and believe it or not photoshop.
Winamp and acdsee are apps I kept in a personal library to re-install after building a new machine because I detested the complexity and garbage the newer versions became. Photoshop used to come on 7 floppy disks and did everything I use Krita for today. Although Krita is far more capable today than Photoshop of the late 90's, it's still lightweight and doesn't insist on hooking into every bloody thing on your computer and calling home to authenticate.
Add to this model the fact that now acdsee and photoshop requires a 'subscription' to operate is why I am wary of new versions.
Continue burying your head in the sand and pretending that everyone who isn't doing the exact same thing as you is an idiot, it makes your an easier target.
*Shrug*
It's mostly the online community that's lost it's ability for critical thinking. The Internet has an amplifying effect for voices that is disproportionate to knowledge or intelligence. When it comes to things manifesting in the real world I can mostly rely on real world financial mechanics keeping things from getting stupid. To be certain we are doing more harm to our environment mining the resources, producing, then later disposing of 'green' technologies like batteries, solar, etc.
I do what I can to reduce my online prescience to reduce potential attack vectors from SJW's and people like you. Regardless of the laws of where I live, the Internet is not a place where free speech is appreciated or respected.
In all honesty the chicken little outbreak will likely fade in the next 30 years ago or be replaced by another mass panic that the elite continue to make money from. In the 70's it was global cooling etc.
Continue to run around as though the sky is falling. you're going to be a nuisance one way or another anyways. Just try and stay off my lawn, and get your own popcorn.
you'll need to apply to UC to read them; there is a long line of people before you
You say "I have read these incredible works that put your best attempts to shame and nobody but special people can read them." If they aren't available for everyone to read they may as well not exist.
You're 'special' all right. You're an elitist ass. Seriously, knowledge should be shared for everyone to advance in the world. I have no kind words for people regardless of what they claim to have accomplished.
That said I see a healthy dose of 'fake it till you make it' in the article. It's your attitude that I felt had to be addressed.
There was a huge thing about it where emails between scientists were exposed. Feeling too lazy right now to dig up evidence you're not going to bother reading anyways.
It's Trillions less than WWI, WWII, or any number of volcanic eruptions *alone*
Interesting fact, if you look at you tube you will find a guy that likes to go into old abandoned mines. One of them, is thawing, after having been frozen solid within the last 100 years.
Think about that. Sometime around 100 years ago an entire mine *froze* and is only now thawing. In the 70's the hype was over global cooling, for the same reasons the media and politi-farts have listed is causing global warming. If you have been on the Earth more than a decade or two you would recognize the patterns. But since these patterns manifest over a time longer than an appreciable measure of your lifespan you don't see it and buy into the media coverage 'never before has this happened' when in fact it did all the time.
Paid for by the people that profit from the fear mongering.
Bunch of chicken little politicians making money.
News flash, the Earth changes, and always will. The weather has always been impossible to predict more than 10 days in advance. We only have 7 days notice because now we have satellites in space watching clouds and rain move.
The old timers will tell you. It's a long established pattern before the news agencies started hyping it up.
There was no exploitation, nor was there any unauthorized [access].
The device is always on, with zero expectation of authentication to access. It can be argued that since there is no authentication required as well as it's design to listen with the implied consent by the owner that it will listen to anything that any command it is capable of hearing is authentic. A change to address automated access by advertising cannot account for access by any other means.
The device also comes without any warranty implied or otherwise that it may or may not function as the owner intends and holds the developing party harmless.
Not a Lawyer but even I understand TFA was written by some butt-hurt liberal scum having a tantrum.
TBH there's more science in palmistry. I have spoken to many shrinks when I was a kid, and they always promise to help you just come back next week and leave your money with the receptionist.
You have valid points that I cannot argue with. I am going to call myself incredibly lucky rather than skilled. My Family believes in God, and that lifestyle lends itself well to success in this area, but not always. I love my children, I love my Wife, and we have always managed to keep one parent at home to take care of my family. It's made things tough, but it looks like it's been a great investment in our family.
It's never too late to correct. But you have to be consistent, and you have to explain why things are changing, and hold everyone to the new regimen. We have family meetings to do just that.
Once it's out of control, simply taking the device is not the right answer.
I disagree. I have personal examples from other parents that have done just that and have been successful at it.
Bottom line; I will remain skeptical of anyone offering a 'solution' for which they are getting paid to administer. What may not be a problem that cannot be solved with some parental resolve becomes amplified into a justification for paying money to 'treat'.
90% of the time the parent gave the device to the child to begin with. They should take responsibility for making sure they are following the rules regarding it's use. I don't think that's unreasonable to expect.
your child starts crying, throwing a tantrum, demanding everyone goes home, is agitated or aggressive
Quelling this behavior is parenting 101. This is never allowed to fly from day one from any of my children. I have 8, and have been a parent for 24 years with the same wife. I think I am qualified when I call bullshit.
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Nothing says you can't recycle the materials in the panels when they are broken.
You've provided no solutions beyond ones clearly not feasible.
Try 'recycling' lithium ion batteries. Hint: They explode when you puncture them. Lead Acid are way less efficient at storing and releasing energy. What happens when you have a huge buildup of Hydrogen gas produced from charging those? *BOOM*
We have been using solutions that are renewable. Diesel can be produced from vegetable matter, Alcohol for engines burns so clean you can't see the flame and is also easy to produce. These two forms of fuel alone can be produced by anybody in the space of a Garage.
The real root of this is those things can be manufactured by the common man with ease. Though, not batteries, solar panels, etc. Batteries and Solar panels are something that cannot be easily produced by the common man if at all. Once all our energy comes from power generation and batteries we place ourselves completely at the will of 'market forces'.
Quite seriously, you're not buying green technology you're building a dangerous monopoly over energy. Of course somehow magically the businessmen in power will suddenly reject thousands of years of proven bias towards 'what the market will bear' and become savant philanthropists and let the common man have everything for free.
But beyond that the planet has been changing on it's own forces for centuries and will continue to do so.
Just fucking plant more trees.
Tree's aren't all about CO2.
They reduce the temperature by providing shade, aspirating moisture, as well as provide a root system and topsoil to help hold ground water.
It's this narrow band of knowledge of what tree's provide that's prevalent in describing tree's and all the other technological alternatives so far described that people just aren't paying attention to. So much that we could end up killing our patient ( Earth ) by doing more harm than good.
Ask yourself this question: Is the solution to save the Earth something you're being *sold*? Is the path to saving the planet something you have to *buy*? Feel like a sucker yet?
It's great that everyone wants to 'save the Earth'. All I ask is that the people trying to save it to stop getting their science from the entertainment industry. This means news agencies, movies, paid for presenters like Bill Nye and good marketing PR.
Plant.more.trees.
*Sigh*
And where do solar panels come from? They don't fall from the sky.
to mine the minerals that go into the mass production of solar panels you must burn fuel that was pumped from the Earth and transported via some method burning fuel. The risk of oil spills is great. Once that crude has made it to the refinery it's refined and the waste gas burned. From the refinery is a number of things the mining equipment needs like Oil, hydraulic fluid, Diesel etc. These things are consumed as machinery ( More mining, manufacturing, shipping to produce these ) decimates large tracts of land destroying the environment that lay in the path of the minerals for our solar panels.
There's already full articles on this:
http://news.nationalgeographic...
But once the Panels have broken, malfunctioned or otherwise need to be disposed of they create a toxic mess for landfills to try to contain which is another problem altogether.
But lets also consider the real estate they consume to produce electricity under only ideal conditions.
http://store.sundancesolar.com...
You really need to start thinking these things through. Take a business class that covers 'true cost of operation' and apply that math to environmental gains in technology. Offsetting a little air quality in favor of decimating the environment and ecology in other nations is a dick move.
I have barely scratched the surface but my goal is more to give you a new direction to think.
There's also this thing called the law of conservation of energy. You're consuming one form of energy to store another, and doing it inefficiently at that. .plant.trees.
Except for the whole part of producing CO2 by burning the wood to make the charcoal.
Just plant fucking trees. Terra-form the Deserts. If we can build pipelines to haul oil and fuel we can build pipelines to haul water from flooded areas to areas of drought.
Plant Trees. Don't burn them and bury the charcoal ffs.
Growing, turning to charcoal and burying is slightly better and the best bet of all is simply not producing so much CO2 in the first place
You need to stop getting your science from the entertainment industry.
Mod up.
The solution is to plan more trees.
But there's not billions of dollars to be made from that.
This right here.
There have been tons of applications that I have loved that had reached a perfect balance of usability and performance. Then the dev takes the development beyond useful with shit like skins or Adding this or that and it begins a downward spiral. Instead of calling the work 'good' and doing something new they latched onto their one app as cash cow to start milking their existing customers for upgrades.
Winamp was a prime example of this. When it came out it worked, it had a minimal footprint and was lightweight. Same for the image utility Acdsee, and believe it or not photoshop.
Winamp and acdsee are apps I kept in a personal library to re-install after building a new machine because I detested the complexity and garbage the newer versions became. Photoshop used to come on 7 floppy disks and did everything I use Krita for today. Although Krita is far more capable today than Photoshop of the late 90's, it's still lightweight and doesn't insist on hooking into every bloody thing on your computer and calling home to authenticate.
Add to this model the fact that now acdsee and photoshop requires a 'subscription' to operate is why I am wary of new versions.
The Internet? A free and open platform for the sharing of ideas and free speech?
There is no free speech anywhere on the Internet. The SJWs shut that down completely.
Remove your digital 'footprint' and move to another state, or you're at risk of being attacked for the most minor of 'micro-aggressions'.
Continue burying your head in the sand and pretending that everyone who isn't doing the exact same thing as you is an idiot, it makes your an easier target.
*Shrug*
It's mostly the online community that's lost it's ability for critical thinking. The Internet has an amplifying effect for voices that is disproportionate to knowledge or intelligence. When it comes to things manifesting in the real world I can mostly rely on real world financial mechanics keeping things from getting stupid. To be certain we are doing more harm to our environment mining the resources, producing, then later disposing of 'green' technologies like batteries, solar, etc.
I do what I can to reduce my online prescience to reduce potential attack vectors from SJW's and people like you. Regardless of the laws of where I live, the Internet is not a place where free speech is appreciated or respected.
In all honesty the chicken little outbreak will likely fade in the next 30 years ago or be replaced by another mass panic that the elite continue to make money from. In the 70's it was global cooling etc.
Continue to run around as though the sky is falling. you're going to be a nuisance one way or another anyways. Just try and stay off my lawn, and get your own popcorn.
you'll need to apply to UC to read them; there is a long line of people before you
You say "I have read these incredible works that put your best attempts to shame and nobody but special people can read them." If they aren't available for everyone to read they may as well not exist.
You're 'special' all right. You're an elitist ass. Seriously, knowledge should be shared for everyone to advance in the world. I have no kind words for people regardless of what they claim to have accomplished.
That said I see a healthy dose of 'fake it till you make it' in the article. It's your attitude that I felt had to be addressed.
You clearly get your science from the entertainment industry.
There was a huge thing about it where emails between scientists were exposed. Feeling too lazy right now to dig up evidence you're not going to bother reading anyways.
It's Trillions less than WWI, WWII, or any number of volcanic eruptions *alone*
Interesting fact, if you look at you tube you will find a guy that likes to go into old abandoned mines. One of them, is thawing, after having been frozen solid within the last 100 years.
Think about that. Sometime around 100 years ago an entire mine *froze* and is only now thawing. In the 70's the hype was over global cooling, for the same reasons the media and politi-farts have listed is causing global warming. If you have been on the Earth more than a decade or two you would recognize the patterns. But since these patterns manifest over a time longer than an appreciable measure of your lifespan you don't see it and buy into the media coverage 'never before has this happened' when in fact it did all the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Call it anecdotal all you want. It's not going to make the ice vanish.
Paid for by the people that profit from the fear mongering.
Bunch of chicken little politicians making money.
News flash, the Earth changes, and always will. The weather has always been impossible to predict more than 10 days in advance. We only have 7 days notice because now we have satellites in space watching clouds and rain move.
The old timers will tell you. It's a long established pattern before the news agencies started hyping it up.
I wish that were true. I was a Navy brat, and moved every three years whenever my dad was transferred to another duty station.
I quickly learned to see common patterns from one place to the next, and this was one of them.
There was no exploitation, nor was there any unauthorized [access].
The device is always on, with zero expectation of authentication to access. It can be argued that since there is no authentication required as well as it's design to listen with the implied consent by the owner that it will listen to anything that any command it is capable of hearing is authentic. A change to address automated access by advertising cannot account for access by any other means.
The device also comes without any warranty implied or otherwise that it may or may not function as the owner intends and holds the developing party harmless.
Not a Lawyer but even I understand TFA was written by some butt-hurt liberal scum having a tantrum.
Psychologists in general disagree with you.
TBH there's more science in palmistry. I have spoken to many shrinks when I was a kid, and they always promise to help you just come back next week and leave your money with the receptionist.
Mod UP ! Excellent ideas!
You have valid points that I cannot argue with. I am going to call myself incredibly lucky rather than skilled. My Family believes in God, and that lifestyle lends itself well to success in this area, but not always. I love my children, I love my Wife, and we have always managed to keep one parent at home to take care of my family. It's made things tough, but it looks like it's been a great investment in our family.
It's never too late to correct. But you have to be consistent, and you have to explain why things are changing, and hold everyone to the new regimen. We have family meetings to do just that.
Once it's out of control, simply taking the device is not the right answer.
I disagree. I have personal examples from other parents that have done just that and have been successful at it.
Bottom line;
I will remain skeptical of anyone offering a 'solution' for which they are getting paid to administer. What may not be a problem that cannot be solved with some parental resolve becomes amplified into a justification for paying money to 'treat'.
90% of the time the parent gave the device to the child to begin with. They should take responsibility for making sure they are following the rules regarding it's use. I don't think that's unreasonable to expect.
your child starts crying, throwing a tantrum, demanding everyone goes home, is agitated or aggressive
Quelling this behavior is parenting 101. This is never allowed to fly from day one from any of my children. I have 8, and have been a parent for 24 years with the same wife. I think I am qualified when I call bullshit.
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