The only hope of cheap power is distributed homeowner owned generation.
Anything centralized will be sold at market or even higher "green" rates forever, and i do not believe those rates will ever come down.
If you had 3x the generation capacity you needed, why would you ever sell the excess for less than what it is worth?
Those high school boys were standing on the exact spot of the first blast, lucky they were early.
Yes, I looked at them as well with suspicion. I was wrong.
Set up an account, everyone on Reddit can send a buck or two as an apology = profit!
If there were problems in supply, then someone, somewhere, should be without gasoline.
Have you EVER heard that lately?
I call BS.
What other industry can change all their prices at the same time at all competitors?
Please explain how more taxes on anyone would ever make it into your pocket?
You want free school loans or something?
Maybe examining your previous choices might help.
And no, you are not working any harder than I am.
Your kids are required to have certain immunizations to attend school.
The ONLY way out is to sign a religious waver.
So if your faith is Atheism, that will still work.
Please let us know how many atheist nurses have declined immunizations.
With 2,600,000 km3 of ice on Greenland
that is 2,600,000,000,000,000 tonnes.
There are 1,000,000,000 tonnes per 1 Gigatonne
So we have 2,600,000 Gigatonnes of ice in Greenland.
With a loss of 200 Gigatonnes/year we are seeing a loss rate of 0.0077% per year
So if it remains a linear loss rate, it will all be gone in only 13,000 years.
I figure Antarctica will take a little longer.
And it does not look like the plots showed acceleration, since the slope was constant?
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,... describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
So my internet "papers and things" are not already included in the 4th amendment protections?
Aren't they simply the modern version of my papers?
Bill Clinton reference?
This obviously should not bother anyone on the left as it was "private and irrelevant to his duties" just as it was with Clinton.
Or are we two faced now?
This guy was torpedoed because of pending Libya issues period.
How about you STFU about shit problems and explain why you let our ambassador and Navy Seal Tyrone Woods and two others die?
I think we have just slightly bigger problems Garry, you freaking douchebag.
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'We do not tolerate deviations from the policies that govern who we are and what we do as Sailors in the United States Navy,' says Deputy Commander of Naval Special Warfare, Rear Admiral Garry Bonelli. 'The non-judicial punishment decisions made today send a clear message throughout our Force that we are and will be held to a high standard of accountability.'"
--
“.But there are real questions to be asked of the paleo
reconstruction. First, I should point out that we calibrated versus
1902-1980, then “verified” the approach using an independent data set for
1854-1901. The results were good, giving me confidence that if we had a
comparable proxy data set for post-1980 (we don’t!) our proxy-based
reconstruction would capture that period well. Unfortunately, the proxy
network we used has not been updated, and furthermore there are many/some/
tree ring sites where there has been a “decoupling” between the long-term
relationship between climate and tree growth, so that things fall apart in
recent decades.this makes it very difficult to demonstrate what I just
claimed. We can only call on evidence from many other proxies for
“unprecedented” states in recent years (e.g. glaciers, isotopes in tropical
ice etc..). But there are (at least) two other problems — Keith Briffa
points out that the very strong trend in the 20th century calibration
period accounts for much of the success of our calibration and makes it
unlikely that we would be able be able to reconstruct such an extraordinary
period as the 1990s with much success (I may be mis-quoting him somewhat,
but that is the general thrust of his criticism). Indeed, in the
verification period, the biggest “miss” was an apparently very warm year in
the late 19th century that we did not get right at all. This makes
criticisms of the “antis” difficult to respond to (they have not yet risen
to this level of sophistication, but they are “on the scent”).
Furthermore, it may be that Mann et al simply don’t have the
long-term trend right, due to underestimation of low frequency info. in the
(very few) proxies that we used. We tried to demonstrate that this was not
a problem of the tree ring data we used by re-running the reconstruction
with & without tree rings, and indeed the two efforts were very similar –
but we could only do this back to about 1700. Whether we have the 1000
year trend right is far less certain (& one reason why I hedge my bets on
whether there were any periods in Medieval times that might have been
“warm”, to the irritation of my co-authors!). So, possibly if you crank up
the trend over 1000 years, you find that the envelope of uncertainty is
comparable with at least some of the future scenarios, which of course begs
the question as to what the likely forcing was 1000 years ago.”
These devices have a reed switch that needs to be activated first, with a magnet very close to the unit, but outside the body, like CONTACTING the skin.
This enables the communication feature, otherwise it is OFF.
The point is should we spend $4 quadrillion dollars to get the 393ppm CO2 level back to 350ppm?
How is the Australia and UK carbon tax schemes affecting worldwide CO2 levels vs. their pocketbooks?
I am all for science, but a lot of folks seem to want my money now.
From the summary:
How can the city afford to pay for a study like this?
The study was funded by federal ARRA funds via the Department of Energy. No City of Los Angeles
general fund dollars were used.
Was the research independent?
Yes. The research was wholly independent; UCLA alone conducted the study.
Has the study been subject to outside review?
Yes. The study has been independently reviewed and has further been submitted for publication.
Thirty years is a long way off, why should we care?
Climate change is already happening. The climate effects we’re seeing today – glacier melt, extreme
heat, early leafing and flowering of plants – is on a continuum going forward. The greenhouse gases
already added to atmosphere will linger for hundreds of years to come. That’s why the City of Los Angeles has already begun to reduce its CO2
emissions and why California passed Assembly Bill 32 in 2006.
And thirty years is not so distant. Looking back thirty years ago, Madonna had already released hit
singles. Baseball pitcher, Jaime Moyer, began his career thirty years ago and he is still pitching in the
major leagues today. Lastly, it will take decades to build the infrastructure necessary for Los Angeles to
survive and thrive.
So what we have now is a study that the mayor is using as a proxy for global warming. GLOBAL. And somehow legislation in LA will alter CO2 output in LA that is supposed to modify the local temperatures in LA 30 years from now.....AYFKM?
Just read the headlines with a quick search, mayor-villaraigosa-ucla-release-groundbreaking...blah blah blah.
Without this LA will likely not survive. No one can really take this seriously, can they?
These arguments make sense to me regarding cagw,
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/22/a-response-to-dr-paul-bains-use-of-denier-in-scientific-literature/
And yes, the models used to make airplanes are obviously MUCH better because they have been proven by experiment where real data was generated.
Additionally, these airplane models are not being used to introduce significant energy policy and taxing legislation on me.
I believe baseball and basketball differ greatly if relation to how statistics can be applied.
Basketball success is much more reliant on a greater number of teammates being "up for the game", and performing physically and mentally at a high level for longer periods. Baseball IS statistics and situational probability.
As far as communicating data, this guy gets it done:
http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_shows_the_best_stats_you_ve_ever_seen.html
is totally beyond me.
But then, my state, Oregon, has NEVER been relevant in a presidential election.
I am not really down with the corn industry picking my republican candidates.
Please,
Is the military industrial complex to blame for severe restrictions on tree harvesting in the PNW? The spotted owl? The restrictions thru road closings and of even accessing the public forests by any vehicle? Restrictions on beach access due to the snowy plover, restrictions on fishing, removal of dams and water rights from farmers? Now about restriction of much needed irrigation water due to protection of sucker fish in a local lake?
Sh*t, we had a perfectly good nuclear plant at Trojan and they dynamited the freaking cooling tower a few years ago, the part that was totally re-useable. Yes, most enviros are buttholes.
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The only hope of cheap power is distributed homeowner owned generation. Anything centralized will be sold at market or even higher "green" rates forever, and i do not believe those rates will ever come down. If you had 3x the generation capacity you needed, why would you ever sell the excess for less than what it is worth?
Those high school boys were standing on the exact spot of the first blast, lucky they were early. Yes, I looked at them as well with suspicion. I was wrong. Set up an account, everyone on Reddit can send a buck or two as an apology = profit!
If there were problems in supply, then someone, somewhere, should be without gasoline. Have you EVER heard that lately? I call BS. What other industry can change all their prices at the same time at all competitors?
Please explain how more taxes on anyone would ever make it into your pocket? You want free school loans or something? Maybe examining your previous choices might help. And no, you are not working any harder than I am.
Your kids are required to have certain immunizations to attend school. The ONLY way out is to sign a religious waver. So if your faith is Atheism, that will still work. Please let us know how many atheist nurses have declined immunizations.
With 2,600,000 km3 of ice on Greenland that is 2,600,000,000,000,000 tonnes. There are 1,000,000,000 tonnes per 1 Gigatonne So we have 2,600,000 Gigatonnes of ice in Greenland. With a loss of 200 Gigatonnes/year we are seeing a loss rate of 0.0077% per year So if it remains a linear loss rate, it will all be gone in only 13,000 years. I figure Antarctica will take a little longer. And it does not look like the plots showed acceleration, since the slope was constant?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/18/about-that-overwhelming-98-number-of-scientists-consensus/ This 97%? please.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, ... describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
So my internet "papers and things" are not already included in the 4th amendment protections?
Aren't they simply the modern version of my papers?
Bill Clinton reference? This obviously should not bother anyone on the left as it was "private and irrelevant to his duties" just as it was with Clinton. Or are we two faced now? This guy was torpedoed because of pending Libya issues period.
U of W won/lost.
How about you STFU about shit problems and explain why you let our ambassador and Navy Seal Tyrone Woods and two others die? I think we have just slightly bigger problems Garry, you freaking douchebag. . . . 'We do not tolerate deviations from the policies that govern who we are and what we do as Sailors in the United States Navy,' says Deputy Commander of Naval Special Warfare, Rear Admiral Garry Bonelli. 'The non-judicial punishment decisions made today send a clear message throughout our Force that we are and will be held to a high standard of accountability.'" --
and more http://tomnelson.blogspot.com/2012/04/if-you-still-believe-that-climategate.html
“.But there are real questions to be asked of the paleo reconstruction. First, I should point out that we calibrated versus 1902-1980, then “verified” the approach using an independent data set for 1854-1901. The results were good, giving me confidence that if we had a comparable proxy data set for post-1980 (we don’t!) our proxy-based reconstruction would capture that period well. Unfortunately, the proxy network we used has not been updated, and furthermore there are many/some/ tree ring sites where there has been a “decoupling” between the long-term relationship between climate and tree growth, so that things fall apart in recent decades.this makes it very difficult to demonstrate what I just claimed. We can only call on evidence from many other proxies for “unprecedented” states in recent years (e.g. glaciers, isotopes in tropical ice etc..). But there are (at least) two other problems — Keith Briffa points out that the very strong trend in the 20th century calibration period accounts for much of the success of our calibration and makes it unlikely that we would be able be able to reconstruct such an extraordinary period as the 1990s with much success (I may be mis-quoting him somewhat, but that is the general thrust of his criticism). Indeed, in the verification period, the biggest “miss” was an apparently very warm year in the late 19th century that we did not get right at all. This makes criticisms of the “antis” difficult to respond to (they have not yet risen to this level of sophistication, but they are “on the scent”). Furthermore, it may be that Mann et al simply don’t have the long-term trend right, due to underestimation of low frequency info. in the (very few) proxies that we used. We tried to demonstrate that this was not a problem of the tree ring data we used by re-running the reconstruction with & without tree rings, and indeed the two efforts were very similar – but we could only do this back to about 1700. Whether we have the 1000 year trend right is far less certain (& one reason why I hedge my bets on whether there were any periods in Medieval times that might have been “warm”, to the irritation of my co-authors!). So, possibly if you crank up the trend over 1000 years, you find that the envelope of uncertainty is comparable with at least some of the future scenarios, which of course begs the question as to what the likely forcing was 1000 years ago.”
These devices have a reed switch that needs to be activated first, with a magnet very close to the unit, but outside the body, like CONTACTING the skin. This enables the communication feature, otherwise it is OFF.
The point is should we spend $4 quadrillion dollars to get the 393ppm CO2 level back to 350ppm? How is the Australia and UK carbon tax schemes affecting worldwide CO2 levels vs. their pocketbooks? I am all for science, but a lot of folks seem to want my money now.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/27/rumours-of-my-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/ and Anthony commented on that study as well, which was published with his data and NOT offered for his review previous to publishing. Do you make it a habit of "denying" any new data on the subject of global warming, now called climate change? Please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_G_-SdAN04 Even this kid didn't cherry pick data......
From the summary: How can the city afford to pay for a study like this? The study was funded by federal ARRA funds via the Department of Energy. No City of Los Angeles general fund dollars were used. Was the research independent? Yes. The research was wholly independent; UCLA alone conducted the study. Has the study been subject to outside review? Yes. The study has been independently reviewed and has further been submitted for publication. Thirty years is a long way off, why should we care? Climate change is already happening. The climate effects we’re seeing today – glacier melt, extreme heat, early leafing and flowering of plants – is on a continuum going forward. The greenhouse gases already added to atmosphere will linger for hundreds of years to come. That’s why the City of Los Angeles has already begun to reduce its CO2 emissions and why California passed Assembly Bill 32 in 2006. And thirty years is not so distant. Looking back thirty years ago, Madonna had already released hit singles. Baseball pitcher, Jaime Moyer, began his career thirty years ago and he is still pitching in the major leagues today. Lastly, it will take decades to build the infrastructure necessary for Los Angeles to survive and thrive. So what we have now is a study that the mayor is using as a proxy for global warming. GLOBAL. And somehow legislation in LA will alter CO2 output in LA that is supposed to modify the local temperatures in LA 30 years from now.....AYFKM? Just read the headlines with a quick search, mayor-villaraigosa-ucla-release-groundbreaking...blah blah blah. Without this LA will likely not survive. No one can really take this seriously, can they?
These arguments make sense to me regarding cagw, http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/22/a-response-to-dr-paul-bains-use-of-denier-in-scientific-literature/ And yes, the models used to make airplanes are obviously MUCH better because they have been proven by experiment where real data was generated. Additionally, these airplane models are not being used to introduce significant energy policy and taxing legislation on me.
I believe baseball and basketball differ greatly if relation to how statistics can be applied. Basketball success is much more reliant on a greater number of teammates being "up for the game", and performing physically and mentally at a high level for longer periods. Baseball IS statistics and situational probability. As far as communicating data, this guy gets it done: http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_shows_the_best_stats_you_ve_ever_seen.html
at least we can all rely on all those climate scientists, they would NEVER do crap like this.............
is totally beyond me. But then, my state, Oregon, has NEVER been relevant in a presidential election. I am not really down with the corn industry picking my republican candidates.
Yeah, felony. While spending us into oblivion at a deficit of over $200 billion per month.... Nice priorities dickheads.
Please, Is the military industrial complex to blame for severe restrictions on tree harvesting in the PNW? The spotted owl? The restrictions thru road closings and of even accessing the public forests by any vehicle? Restrictions on beach access due to the snowy plover, restrictions on fishing, removal of dams and water rights from farmers? Now about restriction of much needed irrigation water due to protection of sucker fish in a local lake? Sh*t, we had a perfectly good nuclear plant at Trojan and they dynamited the freaking cooling tower a few years ago, the part that was totally re-useable. Yes, most enviros are buttholes.
My father, 77, me 53, my son 17, all born Chinese year of the cock. Glad that isn't changing....