Dunno about Pennsylvania, but there is discussion of this topic in Washington and Oregon state right now. While the public school systems are fond of enacting such rules, it is not clear that they have the legal right to enforce them, since they are bodies of the government. The second amendment doesn't have a clause, "...except when a mindless asshole bureaucrat decides otherwise."
I do agree, I think it's a shame. If you go to vote at a school or courthouse and you have a Swiss Army Knife on you, you can be arrested under the same grounds I stated in the GP post.
My job is pretty stifled because I can't just pull out a small Swiss Army Knife to unscrew a computer, cut cable, etc., but it's the law.
Because you are offtopic. Or The crowd is today in a very humorous mood.
My GP comment was modded +1 funny for some reason. Maybe it was an accidental moderation, but I wasn't going for funny. This'll get modded down as well as your comment. Oh well, I got karma to burn!
You beat me by a few minutes, but to expand on this even if he did commit this act on his iPhone or a phone tethered to a personal laptop he still would have done it on school property during time when he is being paid by the district to do his job.
Yeah, but the employee isn't school property, and so what if he did something other than his job! while he was on the clock? What is this, China?
The point is that he was on school property. Many if your rights are revoked when you enter school property in Pennsylvania. Your concealed carry permit is null and void, if you have any weapons (knives, too) in your car safely stored they are illegal, you can have your vehicle searched, etc.
He made a funny comment that "the strangest thing you've ever eaten" is pussy. It was funny and we all have sex anyway, and it's not like he made the comment as a school employee. Jeez.
I agree, but I could see that maybe Kurt thought a student was doing it. If I see a comment coming from a school IP block that is inappropriate, I'd assume it was a student and I wouldn't hesitate to e-mail their IT department about it.
I'm also playing devils advocate here. The guy who was fired should have actually tried to defend himself or just take a formal reprimand instead of resigning, unless if the school forced him out. Maybe he has a history of misconduct?
As people in the comments have said, we're getting third-hand information.
He didn't know it was an employer but probably thought that maybe some student. Still an asshole and idiotic thing to do tho.
It was idiotic for the guy to do it in the first place. He should have just taken a formal reprimand and continued his job. Either he was looking for an out from that job or he had a lot more to hide and he didn't want the district digging through his access logs.
If we catch wind of a student commenting on a website with inappropriate comments, they have their permissions revoked and a call home to the parents. I don't always agree with this, but it does handle the kids who vandalize Wikipedia or troll Slashdot. Yes, I know who you are. Stop.
If he had a personal laptop there with his own cell wireless or used a personal cell phone, no problem.
You beat me by a few minutes, but to expand on this even if he did commit this act on his iPhone or a phone tethered to a personal laptop he still would have done it on school property during time when he is being paid by the district to do his job.
Using the word 'pussy' on school time is simply not that bad. Of course, I can't attach these comments to the article itself, because comments are disabled there now even though the story is only three days old.
I wonder if 4chan will catch wind of this. Kurt just opened a whole can of worms in this case. If he really thinks that one person being inappropriate is bad, imagine every AC from/. trolling his comment section.
People do have breaks, and thus, what they do on their time is their business, no matter who owns the equipment.
Wrong.
I work for a school district in the Technology department and everything that you do on our laptops, in or out of the district, you can be held liable for. It does matter who owns the equipment because if you cause damage to a network using a laptop that belongs to us, we can be liable. Using your analogy I could plug in my thumb drive and watch Debbie Does Dallas on my lunch break on my laptop that belongs to the district, which would be a violation of the agreement I and everybody else signed when they received network credentials.
Many school districts also have you sign a bunch of legal forms claiming that you can be held liable for actions you perform outside of work and after hours. Get a DUI? You have to report it. Where I work, if you get a speeding ticket you have to report it to your manager. I agree, though, that's bullshit.
Could be worse, imagine if it was "fuck you, stupid customs official"
My secret answer for a gaming account was "Your moms box." When I called them up and had to change my information, the guy asked me and I immediately realized what it was. Good thing he had a sense of humor, otherwise he might have thought my childhood superhero was his mom's box.
It's getting better with regards to Apple - the fanboys seam to be growing up. The MS haters, though, are lagging but getting there.
No matter how you look at it, people are going to disagree with you on the internet either because you are actually wrong or because they are just doing it to attempt in getting a rise out of you. The third reason is that they truly believe that they are right, when they are actually wrong and you were correct in the first place. Ah, what a great culture we have!
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I'm done talking about the site, the fact that the site hit slashdot both gives credence to them, and lowers my perception of slashdot.
Blame the people who modded it up with the firehose. If everybody who is angry about this making the front page used the firehose to mod things down, these sorts of things wouldn't make it through as much.
Either a poll or ask slashdot. I second this idea.
One thing to remember about polls:
This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane.
That is printed below the poll results. It may give you a rough idea, but you can't really use it for anything. You also have to take into account the people who don't share that information freely (frankly nobody should -- you are not your fucking khakis), and the people who will just vote for CowboyNeal's option or the highest amount just to skew the results.
No top secret island bases, personal space stations, gold cigar holder and lighter combos that can double as a handgun and definitely no sharks with frikkin laser beams. In short, nothing that any self respecting billionaire/. reader would want to spend their money on.
Oh, the main site is just a front. For the space stations, sharks with frikken laser beams, and robotic women who can break a mans neck with their thighs, you have to click on one of the items they have for sale. It's something that seems really out of place, and that nobody would probably want. It's the Barry Manilow platinum record, signed by him. Nobody would ever even click on it, so they figured that would be a safe way to hide the secret site.
Hmm... there's a black van pulling up in front of my house and some goons are getting out, brb...
In any case, this is a very bad time for luxury goods.
Or a good time depending on how you look at it -- especially with cutting out the middleman as Goonie said. Some people are making a killing right now in the market because they bought while things were in the shitter and now that it's starting to climb back up they might be looking to reward themselves with their fine investments. You also have to think about the crooks and liars who got us into this financial situation in the first place and that they probably still have disposable income to spend on stupid shit that nobody needs but only wants.
My guess is that if it was filed under 'idle' where it belongs, nobody would see it.
The article was posted by samzenpus. All his articles belong in idle -- or better yet, digg or some other website.
Usually samzenpus doesn't make mistakes like filing it under the wrong category, though. This might fall on whoever submitted the story in the first place and the morons who used the firehose to get it approved when it was under the wrong category.
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How did you read ten, 22, and 8 as over 9000?
It's mean to point out someones dyslexia.
Whenever I see long comment chains like this from ACs, I wonder if it's one guy arguing with himself...
Stop posting AC & I could be bothered to respond to you.
But you did respond...
You know, if you want 4chan to do this, you could start it yourself, instead of trying to "subtly hint".
4chan is not your bitch, and trying to connive all the various actors into doing something would be like herding pussy.
Cats, I mean. Pussy. Cats.
I couldn't give a fuck less what 4chan is up to. I was merely hinting because one person trolling a website is nothing compared to the legion of /b/.
Assuming they make the missile 90% reflective so only 10% of the power burns a hole, where does the remaining 90% reflect to?
Your house.
Dunno about Pennsylvania, but there is discussion of this topic in Washington and Oregon state right now. While the public school systems are fond of enacting such rules, it is not clear that they have the legal right to enforce them, since they are bodies of the government. The second amendment doesn't have a clause, "...except when a mindless asshole bureaucrat decides otherwise."
I do agree, I think it's a shame. If you go to vote at a school or courthouse and you have a Swiss Army Knife on you, you can be arrested under the same grounds I stated in the GP post.
My job is pretty stifled because I can't just pull out a small Swiss Army Knife to unscrew a computer, cut cable, etc., but it's the law.
Because you are offtopic. Or
The crowd is today in a very humorous mood.
My GP comment was modded +1 funny for some reason. Maybe it was an accidental moderation, but I wasn't going for funny. This'll get modded down as well as your comment. Oh well, I got karma to burn!
You beat me by a few minutes, but to expand on this even if he did commit this act on his iPhone or a phone tethered to a personal laptop he still would have done it on school property during time when he is being paid by the district to do his job.
Yeah, but the employee isn't school property, and so what if he did something other than his job! while he was on the clock? What is this, China?
The point is that he was on school property. Many if your rights are revoked when you enter school property in Pennsylvania. Your concealed carry permit is null and void, if you have any weapons (knives, too) in your car safely stored they are illegal, you can have your vehicle searched, etc.
He made a funny comment that "the strangest thing you've ever eaten" is pussy. It was funny and we all have sex anyway, and it's not like he made the comment as a school employee. Jeez.
I agree, but I could see that maybe Kurt thought a student was doing it. If I see a comment coming from a school IP block that is inappropriate, I'd assume it was a student and I wouldn't hesitate to e-mail their IT department about it.
I'm also playing devils advocate here. The guy who was fired should have actually tried to defend himself or just take a formal reprimand instead of resigning, unless if the school forced him out. Maybe he has a history of misconduct?
As people in the comments have said, we're getting third-hand information.
He didn't know it was an employer but probably thought that maybe some student. Still an asshole and idiotic thing to do tho.
It was idiotic for the guy to do it in the first place. He should have just taken a formal reprimand and continued his job. Either he was looking for an out from that job or he had a lot more to hide and he didn't want the district digging through his access logs.
If we catch wind of a student commenting on a website with inappropriate comments, they have their permissions revoked and a call home to the parents. I don't always agree with this, but it does handle the kids who vandalize Wikipedia or troll Slashdot. Yes, I know who you are. Stop.
If he had a personal laptop there with his own cell wireless or used a personal cell phone, no problem.
You beat me by a few minutes, but to expand on this even if he did commit this act on his iPhone or a phone tethered to a personal laptop he still would have done it on school property during time when he is being paid by the district to do his job.
The guy had it coming.
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1449584&cid=30155058
Why did you bother crossposting it on the FP? You're already modded up.
Why am I modded funny? What the fuck is going on here?!
Using the word 'pussy' on school time is simply not that bad. Of course, I can't attach these comments to the article itself, because comments are disabled there now even though the story is only three days old.
I wonder if 4chan will catch wind of this. Kurt just opened a whole can of worms in this case. If he really thinks that one person being inappropriate is bad, imagine every AC from /. trolling his comment section.
People do have breaks, and thus, what they do on their time is their business, no matter who owns the equipment.
Wrong.
I work for a school district in the Technology department and everything that you do on our laptops, in or out of the district, you can be held liable for. It does matter who owns the equipment because if you cause damage to a network using a laptop that belongs to us, we can be liable. Using your analogy I could plug in my thumb drive and watch Debbie Does Dallas on my lunch break on my laptop that belongs to the district, which would be a violation of the agreement I and everybody else signed when they received network credentials.
Many school districts also have you sign a bunch of legal forms claiming that you can be held liable for actions you perform outside of work and after hours. Get a DUI? You have to report it. Where I work, if you get a speeding ticket you have to report it to your manager. I agree, though, that's bullshit.
The guy had it coming.
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1449584&cid=30155058
Why did you bother crossposting it on the FP? You're already modded up.
Because the editors are trying to scam you into thinking Idle isn't the craphole it really is.
Flamebait? Looks like some Idle enthusiast has mod points...
Could be worse, imagine if it was "fuck you, stupid customs official"
My secret answer for a gaming account was "Your moms box." When I called them up and had to change my information, the guy asked me and I immediately realized what it was. Good thing he had a sense of humor, otherwise he might have thought my childhood superhero was his mom's box.
Fortunately, I don't think anyone is going to spend the time and expense to spray explosive residue around a bunch of mines that were buried in WW2
Sounds like a good idea for a supervillian.
It's getting better with regards to Apple - the fanboys seam to be growing up. The MS haters, though, are lagging but getting there.
No matter how you look at it, people are going to disagree with you on the internet either because you are actually wrong or because they are just doing it to attempt in getting a rise out of you. The third reason is that they truly believe that they are right, when they are actually wrong and you were correct in the first place. Ah, what a great culture we have!
I'm done talking about the site, the fact that the site hit slashdot both gives credence to them, and lowers my perception of slashdot.
Blame the people who modded it up with the firehose. If everybody who is angry about this making the front page used the firehose to mod things down, these sorts of things wouldn't make it through as much.
Reward themselves for their fine investments*
I think most people will catch on to what I meant, though.
Either a poll or ask slashdot. I second this idea.
One thing to remember about polls:
This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane.
That is printed below the poll results. It may give you a rough idea, but you can't really use it for anything. You also have to take into account the people who don't share that information freely (frankly nobody should -- you are not your fucking khakis), and the people who will just vote for CowboyNeal's option or the highest amount just to skew the results.
No top secret island bases, personal space stations, gold cigar holder and lighter combos that can double as a handgun and definitely no sharks with frikkin laser beams. In short, nothing that any self respecting billionaire /. reader would want to spend their money on.
Oh, the main site is just a front. For the space stations, sharks with frikken laser beams, and robotic women who can break a mans neck with their thighs, you have to click on one of the items they have for sale. It's something that seems really out of place, and that nobody would probably want. It's the Barry Manilow platinum record, signed by him. Nobody would ever even click on it, so they figured that would be a safe way to hide the secret site.
Hmm... there's a black van pulling up in front of my house and some goons are getting out, brb...
In any case, this is a very bad time for luxury goods.
Or a good time depending on how you look at it -- especially with cutting out the middleman as Goonie said. Some people are making a killing right now in the market because they bought while things were in the shitter and now that it's starting to climb back up they might be looking to reward themselves with their fine investments. You also have to think about the crooks and liars who got us into this financial situation in the first place and that they probably still have disposable income to spend on stupid shit that nobody needs but only wants.
The article was posted by samzenpus. All his articles belong in idle -- or better yet, digg or some other website.
Usually samzenpus doesn't make mistakes like filing it under the wrong category, though. This might fall on whoever submitted the story in the first place and the morons who used the firehose to get it approved when it was under the wrong category.