exactly. As I posted up above, you are disturbing the demand part of the price decision point. That demand doesn't only affect the price of the software in question, it drives the development of alternatives. Matlab is expensive, so there is a demand for Octave. if legit organizations could pirate matlab and get the job done, there would be a lot fewer developers, and we probably wouldn't have Octave.
By possessing and using a copy of Foobar, you have to some decreased demand for Foobar in the marketplace. You are also arguably making use of Foobar without paying for it, hence producing higher quality output at lower cost because you've found illegal ways of reducing your costs. You make it harder for someone to compete using software they paid for, simply because they have a legitimate cost basis for their product. If this software is superior to free alternatives, then you are also illegitimately reducing your time/effort (cost) in producing that output relative to someone else who is trying to legitimately reduce their cost basis through free software.
If you've downloaded and installed it but don't actually use it, then you're completely irrelevant. If you are using it, you're disturbing the market whether you want to or not.
I fully recognize that supply and demand is broken for software. But price is still somewhat set by demand. In addition, development of alternatives is driven by demand. If enough people wanted an affordable alternative, one would appear, or a Free software option would get enough attention to eventually be cost competitive. But not if the demand is satisfied by illegal acquisition. (I didn't say theft)
forget about it hurting NASA, what does "also extends to the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy" mean for everything else under the executive branch? or is it just one particular executive branch office?
a bit of googling: from Forbes.com: "Although the ban will expire at the end of the current fiscal year in October, Wolf will seek to make the prohibition on any scientific collaboration between U.S. research agencies and China permanent.... the Obama Administration has taken the position that the ban does not apply to any U.S. scientific interactions with China conducted as part of foreign policy"
are you distributing without authorization from the copyright holder? well, then you're probably infringing. Is the person who has seeded the torrent distributing without authorization from the copyright holder? well, then he's probably infringing, and you're probably obtaining an unauthorized copy. Are you using standard torrent software with standard settings? Then while downloading you're probably also distributing without authorization from the copyright holder.
From what I've gathered over the last few years you are correct: you can make your own backup copy. BUT, there are no legal tools for which you can do so from commercial DVDs. you could write your own software to decrypet the CSS and use that software to then make a copy. but you can't distribute that software to anyone else. that would be in violation of the DMCA.
isn't that file format dependent? I know years back I had some video downloads crap out part way through, and I was still able to play a significant fraction. Sometimes the player got confused at the end when it thought there should be more video and it reached the end of the file, but it would still play. Now, with a torrent where you're not necessarily even getting sequential blocks it could be different. but you can infringe on copyright by distributing part of a movie.
I have yet to hear about any legal rulings on Downloads. hence the whole "making available = infringement" argument that the **AA has been trying to get set as precedent. it's hard for them to prove a transaction between two third parties.
That does make me wonder, though, about what exactly they gathered as proof. from TFA: "Film companies pay snoops to troll BitTorrent sites, dip into active torrents and capture the IP addresses of the peers who are downloading and uploading pieces of the files."
So... how do they gather this info? I can understand how they get the uploader IPs. They simply have to record the list of who they could initiate a download with. But how do you pull a list of people already downloading from another party, unless that party was you? Is that information somehow available via the BitTorrent protocol?
if it comes under the heading of fair use (which is entirely uncertain, if not just plain unlikely in this case) then that is a defense that can be used in court as an attempt to excuse the actions of which you are accused. At least in the US fair use has not been legally declared as a 'right' that can be infringed upon. And sending a portion of the file for the purposes of unauthorized distribution would really be a tough sell. (as opposed to use in a parody, or a clip in a news report, or... almost anything else)
Probably they're basing it off the idea that as a torrent, while downloading they're also uploading?
This would be based off certain assumptions. (1) that they haven't adjusted their upload upload bandwidth to zero. (2) that even if they didn't adjust it to zero, that it didn't just sit there available but unused on the machine. I.e., it assumes that they participated in sharing of the content that they've downloaded, even if they only left it available for sharing until their own download was complete.
Technically, if they participated in uploading, even partially, that's distribution. But I have a hard time believing they have any tangible proof of uploading from a significant percentage of the downloaders.
he wants a passive device. What he's talking about is a thermal diode. thermal and acoustic diodes would be very similar (audible vs phonon frequency matching being the primary issue). if they didn't violate the 2nd law, that is.
"The attack that stole the personal data of millions of Sony customers was launched separately, while the company was distracted protecting itself against the denial of service campaign, Sony said.
Sony said it was not sure whether the organizers of the two attacks were working together."
I.e., it's anonymous's fault. We were busy dealing with their crap and didn't notice someone coming in and stealing stuff.
don't forget, energy of impact goes up as v^2. so that 18% velocity increase translates into a 40% increase in impact energy. 40% can make a big difference.
"Chiropractors have found in every disease that is supposed to be contagious, a cause in the spine. In the spinal column we will find a subluxation that corresponds to every type of disease. If we had one hundred cases of small-pox, I can prove to you where, in one, you will find a subluxation and you will find the same conditions in the other ninety-nine. I adjust one and return his functions to normal... . There is no contagious disease... . There is no infection... . There is a cause internal to man that makes of his body in a certain spot, more or less a breeding ground [for microbes]. It is a place where they can multiply, propagate, and then because they become so many they are classed as a cause." -- B.J. Palmer, The Philosophy of Chiropractic, V. Davenport, IA: Palmer School of Chiropractic; 1909[7]
we are currently rather loaded with academics. It's hard to justify 'more universities with professor positions' in this day and age. So, each prof's job is to train his eventual replacement. now, some of those people will be siphoned off to corporate/government research labs, etc., some will decide to go teach in high school, some will start up tech companies, some will write for a living, etc. So, add those to the 'replacement' and you now have the net-stable population scenario. How many PhD's should be graduated by each current PhD holding professor to maintain this net-stable situation? probably fewer than are currently in the system.
There was a pretty decent lecture someone posted online on the same topic. (Most of my points are in line with that lecture). I'm drawing a blank now, and my 30-second Google-fu is failing me. so, post a link if anyone knows what I'm talking about.
Actually, many schools have some other method of giving out lunches to avoid pointing out lunch program kids. In my kids' elementary school, each person has an account and punches in a code at the register. kids don't have to handle money (or have it stolen) if they don't want to, parents can send in a check periodically to top off accounts, and kids on the school lunch program do the same thing as everyone else to get their lunch. If I lined all the kids up and asked you to pick out the ones on the school lunch program, you'd probably miss 2/3 of them.
doesn't that sort of make it not "the cloud"? I thought the whole point of "cloud computing" was that you're using other people's hardware to do your work. If it's your hardware doing your work on your network, that's now called working 'in a cloud'? So the next time Pixar uses their Renderfarm to produce a movie, they can call it their "RenderCloud"? Heck, I scripted my computer downstairs chop up my audiobook downloads so they play nicely on my older MP3 player. Then it dumps it to a shared drive where I pull it to my device through my laptop. Is that my itty bitty home cloud? Is all network/server based computing now some "cloud something"?
Gah... lets take bets on the next "we don't know what's actually new, so we'll just make up new buzzwords" word. Web 2.0, Cloud computing, ____next?___
"Strategy Analytics researcher Peter King recently said his analysts were surprised that DVD player sales continued to be so strong against Blu-ray players."
yeah. conclusion: your analysts are overpaid idiots.
my favorite is when you're searching for a 'how to fix XYZ', and you wouldn't mind a good experts exchange or eHow article, but instead you get the wikiAnswers 'you asked about XYZ, here's a question about XYZ, can you answer it?' crap. get a lot of those.
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exactly. As I posted up above, you are disturbing the demand part of the price decision point. That demand doesn't only affect the price of the software in question, it drives the development of alternatives. Matlab is expensive, so there is a demand for Octave. if legit organizations could pirate matlab and get the job done, there would be a lot fewer developers, and we probably wouldn't have Octave.
By possessing and using a copy of Foobar, you have to some decreased demand for Foobar in the marketplace. You are also arguably making use of Foobar without paying for it, hence producing higher quality output at lower cost because you've found illegal ways of reducing your costs. You make it harder for someone to compete using software they paid for, simply because they have a legitimate cost basis for their product. If this software is superior to free alternatives, then you are also illegitimately reducing your time/effort (cost) in producing that output relative to someone else who is trying to legitimately reduce their cost basis through free software.
If you've downloaded and installed it but don't actually use it, then you're completely irrelevant. If you are using it, you're disturbing the market whether you want to or not.
I fully recognize that supply and demand is broken for software. But price is still somewhat set by demand. In addition, development of alternatives is driven by demand. If enough people wanted an affordable alternative, one would appear, or a Free software option would get enough attention to eventually be cost competitive. But not if the demand is satisfied by illegal acquisition. (I didn't say theft)
forget about it hurting NASA, what does "also extends to the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy" mean for everything else under the executive branch? or is it just one particular executive branch office?
a bit of googling:
from Forbes.com:
"Although the ban will expire at the end of the current fiscal year in October, Wolf will seek to make the prohibition on any scientific collaboration between U.S. research agencies and China permanent.... the Obama Administration has taken the position that the ban does not apply to any U.S. scientific interactions with China conducted as part of foreign policy"
are you distributing without authorization from the copyright holder? well, then you're probably infringing. Is the person who has seeded the torrent distributing without authorization from the copyright holder? well, then he's probably infringing, and you're probably obtaining an unauthorized copy. Are you using standard torrent software with standard settings? Then while downloading you're probably also distributing without authorization from the copyright holder.
From what I've gathered over the last few years you are correct: you can make your own backup copy. BUT, there are no legal tools for which you can do so from commercial DVDs. you could write your own software to decrypet the CSS and use that software to then make a copy. but you can't distribute that software to anyone else. that would be in violation of the DMCA.
isn't that file format dependent? I know years back I had some video downloads crap out part way through, and I was still able to play a significant fraction. Sometimes the player got confused at the end when it thought there should be more video and it reached the end of the file, but it would still play. Now, with a torrent where you're not necessarily even getting sequential blocks it could be different. but you can infringe on copyright by distributing part of a movie.
I have yet to hear about any legal rulings on Downloads. hence the whole "making available = infringement" argument that the **AA has been trying to get set as precedent. it's hard for them to prove a transaction between two third parties.
That does make me wonder, though, about what exactly they gathered as proof. from TFA: "Film companies pay snoops to troll BitTorrent sites, dip into active torrents and capture the IP addresses of the peers who are downloading and uploading pieces of the files."
So... how do they gather this info? I can understand how they get the uploader IPs. They simply have to record the list of who they could initiate a download with. But how do you pull a list of people already downloading from another party, unless that party was you? Is that information somehow available via the BitTorrent protocol?
if it comes under the heading of fair use (which is entirely uncertain, if not just plain unlikely in this case) then that is a defense that can be used in court as an attempt to excuse the actions of which you are accused. At least in the US fair use has not been legally declared as a 'right' that can be infringed upon. And sending a portion of the file for the purposes of unauthorized distribution would really be a tough sell. (as opposed to use in a parody, or a clip in a news report, or ... almost anything else)
Probably they're basing it off the idea that as a torrent, while downloading they're also uploading?
This would be based off certain assumptions. (1) that they haven't adjusted their upload upload bandwidth to zero. (2) that even if they didn't adjust it to zero, that it didn't just sit there available but unused on the machine. I.e., it assumes that they participated in sharing of the content that they've downloaded, even if they only left it available for sharing until their own download was complete.
Technically, if they participated in uploading, even partially, that's distribution. But I have a hard time believing they have any tangible proof of uploading from a significant percentage of the downloaders.
omega 3's all over the place but generally below the clinically supported threshold. Of course, they don't have an RSI category.
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he wants a passive device. What he's talking about is a thermal diode. thermal and acoustic diodes would be very similar (audible vs phonon frequency matching being the primary issue). if they didn't violate the 2nd law, that is.
FTFA:
"The attack that stole the personal data of millions of Sony customers was launched separately, while the company was distracted protecting itself against the denial of service campaign, Sony said.
Sony said it was not sure whether the organizers of the two attacks were working together."
I.e., it's anonymous's fault. We were busy dealing with their crap and didn't notice someone coming in and stealing stuff.
still used quite extensively. use is generally a no-brainer compared to scan/pdf/email for most offices.
don't forget, energy of impact goes up as v^2. so that 18% velocity increase translates into a 40% increase in impact energy. 40% can make a big difference.
the reviews for that place are awesome:
- Free HBO, but "death to America! " chants were getting old. Better options nearby.
- Cold and drafty at night, walls full of holes.
- I heard that this place is now available (prior residents left suddenly and unexpectedly).
"Chiropractors have found in every disease that is supposed to be contagious, a cause in the spine. In the spinal column we will find a subluxation that corresponds to every type of disease. If we had one hundred cases of small-pox, I can prove to you where, in one, you will find a subluxation and you will find the same conditions in the other ninety-nine. I adjust one and return his functions to normal... . There is no contagious disease... . There is no infection... . There is a cause internal to man that makes of his body in a certain spot, more or less a breeding ground [for microbes]. It is a place where they can multiply, propagate, and then because they become so many they are classed as a cause." -- B.J. Palmer, The Philosophy of Chiropractic, V. Davenport, IA: Palmer School of Chiropractic; 1909[7]
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertebral_subluxation#History
uh huh.
releases aren't that far apart. what happens after Z?
of course. of electric sheep.
and the spamhauses. don't ever forget the spamhauses.
we are currently rather loaded with academics. It's hard to justify 'more universities with professor positions' in this day and age. So, each prof's job is to train his eventual replacement. now, some of those people will be siphoned off to corporate/government research labs, etc., some will decide to go teach in high school, some will start up tech companies, some will write for a living, etc. So, add those to the 'replacement' and you now have the net-stable population scenario. How many PhD's should be graduated by each current PhD holding professor to maintain this net-stable situation? probably fewer than are currently in the system.
There was a pretty decent lecture someone posted online on the same topic. (Most of my points are in line with that lecture). I'm drawing a blank now, and my 30-second Google-fu is failing me. so, post a link if anyone knows what I'm talking about.
and once again we are reminded why software patents need to go the way of the dodo bird.
Actually, many schools have some other method of giving out lunches to avoid pointing out lunch program kids. In my kids' elementary school, each person has an account and punches in a code at the register. kids don't have to handle money (or have it stolen) if they don't want to, parents can send in a check periodically to top off accounts, and kids on the school lunch program do the same thing as everyone else to get their lunch. If I lined all the kids up and asked you to pick out the ones on the school lunch program, you'd probably miss 2/3 of them.
> passing out candy bars for effort
you meant ice cream sandwiches, right?
"our cloud"
doesn't that sort of make it not "the cloud"? I thought the whole point of "cloud computing" was that you're using other people's hardware to do your work. If it's your hardware doing your work on your network, that's now called working 'in a cloud'? So the next time Pixar uses their Renderfarm to produce a movie, they can call it their "RenderCloud"? Heck, I scripted my computer downstairs chop up my audiobook downloads so they play nicely on my older MP3 player. Then it dumps it to a shared drive where I pull it to my device through my laptop. Is that my itty bitty home cloud? Is all network/server based computing now some "cloud something"?
Gah... lets take bets on the next "we don't know what's actually new, so we'll just make up new buzzwords" word. Web 2.0, Cloud computing, ____next?___
"Strategy Analytics researcher Peter King recently said his analysts were surprised that DVD player sales continued to be so strong against Blu-ray players."
yeah. conclusion: your analysts are overpaid idiots.
my favorite is when you're searching for a 'how to fix XYZ', and you wouldn't mind a good experts exchange or eHow article, but instead you get the wikiAnswers 'you asked about XYZ, here's a question about XYZ, can you answer it?' crap. get a lot of those.