How long do you think the video cable can be made to work without artifacts/distortion? If everyone sat in a circle with the computer in the middle it would be great but that wouldn't be realistic at a school I'm looking at. Everyone sits along the walls facing the walls (offices, not classrooms). Of course one thing in our favor is that we won't be running ungodly high resolutions like 1600x1200@85 Hz. I would think 1024x768@72/75 Hz max.
Here is an email I received on the 21st of this month:
These last two days have been the worst two days we have ever experienced at GunBroker.com. Our EMC disk array, which is supposed to guarantee 100% uptime, failed. It took EMC 24 hours to get it back online, and when they got it back online they corrupted our database. Although we have tape backup the tape runs at regular intervals, the crash occurred at the worst possible time. Everyone here worked 48 hours straight to restore the damaged data as fully as possible.
We are extremely sorry that this happened. Downtime is extremely rare at GunBroker.com because we spend a lot of money on an extremely high quality infrastructure. This never should have happened at all because EMC disk arrays are never supposed to fail. We have a contract that guarantees that the EMC will not fail and that it will not cause us data loss. We are of course going to find out why this occurred and do whatever it takes to make sure that it never happens again.
To ease the financial loss of our sellers who use this site as business income, we are waiving the Final Value Fee of any item that is listed Monday, Jan 21 through Wednesday, January 23 (eastern time). The FVF will appear on your real-time account info but will be removed before you get your monthly statement so you will never pay it. If you had not already noticed we did away with the fraud insurance fees (but not the Fraud Insurance) starting Dec 1, 2001.
We have extended all auctions that were to end in the down period to be fair to our buyers and sellers. If you placed a bid or listed and item on the morning of Jan 18, please read the following and check to make sure that you bid or listing is still there.
As a consequence of the crash it is possible that a small amount of data was lost from the time frame immediately before the crash. If you placed bids or listed an item after 10:00am on 1/18/2002, please check 'My Auctions' from the top of any web site page to make sure that your listing or bid is there.
Once again, we are extremely sorry for the downtime. If you have had a problem that has been caused by this incident please 'Reply' to this message and tell us what we can do to help you and we will do everything we can to resolve the issue.
GunBroker.com
The Web's Largest Hunting and Sport Shooting Auction and the ONLY firearms trading place that guarantees your purchase against fraud.
http://www.gunbroker.com
Oh I know about testing. I should have mentioned it in my post. One of the servers was running it for the last couple months until it went off to RedHat land. I really wanted to keep Debian on that server and probably would have if a stable version was out. But my discomfort with not having a stable version that is useable is high. Testing is great but it is a band aid and one that is missing some gauze in the necessary parts at that.
One could say why am I bitching here? Why aren't I helping? Well the answer is I don't think one more person would speed up the Debian stable release process. For some reason the stable reasons just don't get out the door. Some people say "that is ok, we are making quality software here, not rushed products like RedHat." I accepted that answer for half a year. At some point in time one has to say enough is enough. Get it out or drop dead. Obviously Debian is doing neither of those things and it'll keep on chugging but life sucks for the Debian lover who sees the vision but dislikes the reality.
Sure I'll be one of the first to load up the next stable release and use it but you know what I'll be watching for? The stable release after the next one. I won't be the only one. As I pointed out in another post people are leaving the Debian project due to the glacial progress on pushing a new stable out the door. When users bitch it is one thing but when developers start looking for another choosen land it is another.
I really do hope Debian doesn't become irrelevant to the majority of linux users. The whole distribution is polished beyond belief but the core fact remains that there needs to be a balance between rock solid and up to date. Right now Debian isn't even coming close to maintaining that balance....
Hrm... You're right about javascript. I don't know what I was thinking - it is fast enough for me at every site I use. Maybe I was reading performance comparisions between IE 6.0 javascript and Mozilla. I don't know why I even mentioned it though because it hasn't affected me personally.
Argh... The "space in textarea" buggy behavoir is annoying! If you are at the end of the line and you enter a space Mozilla doesn't want to go down to the next line. So you enter another space and then another then backspace, yadda yadda. I'm used to it now but it is annoying. Now to find the bug in bugzilla and vote for it:).
Actually most people who buy their motorcycle products think Corbin has gone overboard into the Sparrow business and as a result is neglecting their original customers. So perhaps they make/sell Sparrows with a sideline in motorcyle products these days (lots of custom seats, etc). See rec.motorcycles and various other places for information.
Thanks for holding the torch. Too bad people can't take criticism of Debian serously. It's obviously a problem when people like Adrian Bunk are retiring from the Debian project.
I really like Debian. I wish I could use it everywhere without a problem. But the lack of stable releases is a MAJOR problem and it has been a major problem for some time with no solution in sight.
LOL. I still disagree with you but the ad hominem attacks were stupid. My point is that the post you were replying to obviously put the two worlds of closed source and open source in different areas and didn't say the same rules apply to both. That's conjecture but I think it is simply obvious from the post. So I still maintain you were/are being rather pedantic but each to his own.
In other words you're picking at his words instead of the world he is looking at. Can you say boring? And now, for the ultimate irony, I'm doing the same. Boring...
You make a good point but where I'm coming from is needing servers for basic tasks like http, email, etc. I'd rather run a recent release of Apache than the old release in stable because it is simply way too far out of date. The same problem with mod_php4, same problem with numerous other things. Sure it'll work just fine how you have it setup and yes you can get Debian to do what you want but the issue is that if they can't get a stable release out the door on a regular basis is there ever going to be salvation for these problems? Will we always need to hack around the problem or simply live with outdated software?
I like neither option so until a stable release gets pushed out the door on a regular basis (not just the next stable release but the one after that and the next) I simply won't use Debian on my server.
Where do I submit the "stable is taking forever to release, why don't you guys just give up" bug report on bugs.debian.org? Seriously, Debian isn't a viable alternative for an up to date linux server which many people need. If a stable release comes out every 5 years what is the point? I like running Debian unstable on my laptop but stable on servers? No way...
I tried Red Carpet a while back. Just took a look at Ximian.com. What's the deal? Do you pay them a certain amount per month or is Red Carpet free with purchase of $30/$50 package? If there isn't a monthly cost how do they stay in business?
In a similar note I wonder how the hell debian.org can afford the bandwidth for all the apt-get'ing. I know there are plenty of mirrors but still...
I'm with you. I run FreeBSD on my home server. I disagree with Debian being an option - "stable" is just too freaking out of date to run and unstable on a server just isn't tempting. I run Debian unstable on my laptop though.
At work I caved in and decided to just move everything to RedHat. I hope RedHat works on up2date/rpm/whatever so you can move from one release of the os to another with minimal breakage just like FreeBSD and Debian. If I ever colocate a box there is not a chance in hell it will run RedHat. My first choice would be FreeBSD just for ease of maintenance. When you can't get to the machine physically without a lot of time/effort/$$$ why run something that is simply inefficent for your purpose. That's the way I see it...
I agree. Recently I was tempted to buy Opera for Linux but now Mozilla just rocks (tabbed browsing, no popups, etc). The other thing that made me stick with Mozilla is that the IMAP mail client also works extremely well.
Only downsides with Mozilla that I see are:
1) javascript is dead slow
2) java on some sites doesn't like to work with the java plugin or is damn slow (bad dom in browser? or bad java vm?)
3) can't delete IMAP folders in mail client (remove them from view)
4) newsgroups aren't sorted alphabetically (I bet some mozilla jack ass thinks this is the "right way to do things" just like not having a home button on the main menu is the "right thing to do").
But anyway, I can't overlook those downsides because I suspect most of them will be fixed soon...
1) Microsoft platform = closed source(*). Microsoft Office is loaded on practically every single corporate PC out there and at least half of all home machines.
2) Linux platform = open source(*). GCC is open source. GCC is on every single linux server and desktop with the development stuff loaded.
I don't see the contradiction. You might see it if you were a pedantic asshole only concerned with logic instead of a realistic world view.
* generalizations - generalizations don't cover all cases, included this in case you are a pedantic monkey butt... Of course there are open source apps on Win32 and closed source apps on Linux but we are talking majority.
Did you open up the file again and double check it's still set? I went to the link and I didn't get any popups - I did have Mozilla itself popup and ask if I wanted to get the java plugin (not installed). Perhaps this java thingy they have on their site opens the windows?
Anyway, see the other reply about users.js or whatever it's called. If you are already using that maybe try adding it to prefs.js and see what happens.
BestBuy supposedly has Quake III for Linux onsale for $9.99. Haven't gone to get a copy yet (I was a quake 2 addict but I never tried quake 3 after the betas).
On *nix go to ~/.mozilla/default/something_random/ and edit prefs.js - note, copy it to prefs.js.new, edit it, close mozilla, copy it over prefs.js, restart mozilla, tada (if you edit it while moz is open it'll kill your new prefs.js version because it writes it out on exit or something).
Under Windows go to \Documents and Settings\ to your directory (make sure you have "show all files" in the folder prefs) and you'll find it. Or use that search feature:).
My first reaction too. I thought we were going to get closeup stalking photos of the people that write Counter-Strike cheat code. We need a site like eBay where people can bid money to pay people to track down the scum and take them public. Ah, what a crack pipe dream.
I guess it takes awhile to pile through the submissions. This was posted on pclinuxonline.com recently.
Wow... That takes the cake. It's bad enough to bitch about deja vu reposts from/. itself, no need to bitch about reposts of stories at other sites. If you can't see the reasons why please bite yourself. I can't wait until it is unhip to be aloof.
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Thank you for clarifying the issue. I do not have any experience with x86 SMP servers with > 2 cpus so I did not think along those lines. I now understand where you are coming from...
Bzzzt. You got the fair market price for the item(*). If you could sell it for more somewhere else why didn't you? Sure, sometimes people get a steal on eBay but that is how auctions work. Just because you got denied when trying to fleece someone else doesn't mean that starting with a low price is a fallacy.
* Personally I would avoid starting an item with a really low price that is in low demand/relatively unknown because there are few bidders for such items. Again, think auctions or just plain think...
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How long do you think the video cable can be made to work without artifacts/distortion? If everyone sat in a circle with the computer in the middle it would be great but that wouldn't be realistic at a school I'm looking at. Everyone sits along the walls facing the walls (offices, not classrooms). Of course one thing in our favor is that we won't be running ungodly high resolutions like 1600x1200@85 Hz. I would think 1024x768@72/75 Hz max.
Here is an email I received on the 21st of this month:
These last two days have been the worst two days we have ever experienced at GunBroker.com. Our EMC disk array, which is supposed to guarantee 100% uptime, failed. It took EMC 24 hours to get it back online, and when they got it back online they corrupted our database. Although we have tape backup the tape runs at regular intervals, the crash occurred at the worst possible time. Everyone here worked 48 hours straight to restore the damaged data as fully as possible.
We are extremely sorry that this happened. Downtime is extremely rare at GunBroker.com because we spend a lot of money on an extremely high quality infrastructure. This never should have happened at all because EMC disk arrays are never supposed to fail. We have a contract that guarantees that the EMC will not fail and that it will not cause us data loss. We are of course going to find out why this occurred and do whatever it takes to make sure that it never happens again.
To ease the financial loss of our sellers who use this site as business income, we are waiving the Final Value Fee of any item that is listed Monday, Jan 21 through Wednesday, January 23 (eastern time). The FVF will appear on your real-time account info but will be removed before you get your monthly statement so you will never pay it. If you had not already noticed we did away with the fraud insurance fees (but not the Fraud Insurance) starting Dec 1, 2001.
We have extended all auctions that were to end in the down period to be fair to our buyers and sellers. If you placed a bid or listed and item on the morning of Jan 18, please read the following and check to make sure that you bid or listing is still there.
As a consequence of the crash it is possible that a small amount of data was lost from the time frame immediately before the crash. If you placed bids or listed an item after 10:00am on 1/18/2002, please check 'My Auctions' from the top of any web site page to make sure that your listing or bid is there.
Once again, we are extremely sorry for the downtime. If you have had a problem that has been caused by this incident please 'Reply' to this message and tell us what we can do to help you and we will do everything we can to resolve the issue.
GunBroker.com
The Web's Largest Hunting and Sport Shooting Auction and the ONLY firearms trading place that guarantees your purchase against fraud.
http://www.gunbroker.com
Oh I know about testing. I should have mentioned it in my post. One of the servers was running it for the last couple months until it went off to RedHat land. I really wanted to keep Debian on that server and probably would have if a stable version was out. But my discomfort with not having a stable version that is useable is high. Testing is great but it is a band aid and one that is missing some gauze in the necessary parts at that.
One could say why am I bitching here? Why aren't I helping? Well the answer is I don't think one more person would speed up the Debian stable release process. For some reason the stable reasons just don't get out the door. Some people say "that is ok, we are making quality software here, not rushed products like RedHat." I accepted that answer for half a year. At some point in time one has to say enough is enough. Get it out or drop dead. Obviously Debian is doing neither of those things and it'll keep on chugging but life sucks for the Debian lover who sees the vision but dislikes the reality.
Sure I'll be one of the first to load up the next stable release and use it but you know what I'll be watching for? The stable release after the next one. I won't be the only one. As I pointed out in another post people are leaving the Debian project due to the glacial progress on pushing a new stable out the door. When users bitch it is one thing but when developers start looking for another choosen land it is another.
I really do hope Debian doesn't become irrelevant to the majority of linux users. The whole distribution is polished beyond belief but the core fact remains that there needs to be a balance between rock solid and up to date. Right now Debian isn't even coming close to maintaining that balance....
Just my 5 bucks worth of thought...
Hrm... You're right about javascript. I don't know what I was thinking - it is fast enough for me at every site I use. Maybe I was reading performance comparisions between IE 6.0 javascript and Mozilla. I don't know why I even mentioned it though because it hasn't affected me personally.
:).
Argh... The "space in textarea" buggy behavoir is annoying! If you are at the end of the line and you enter a space Mozilla doesn't want to go down to the next line. So you enter another space and then another then backspace, yadda yadda. I'm used to it now but it is annoying. Now to find the bug in bugzilla and vote for it
Actually most people who buy their motorcycle products think Corbin has gone overboard into the Sparrow business and as a result is neglecting their original customers. So perhaps they make/sell Sparrows with a sideline in motorcyle products these days (lots of custom seats, etc). See rec.motorcycles and various other places for information.
Thanks for holding the torch. Too bad people can't take criticism of Debian serously. It's obviously a problem when people like Adrian Bunk are retiring from the Debian project.
I really like Debian. I wish I could use it everywhere without a problem. But the lack of stable releases is a MAJOR problem and it has been a major problem for some time with no solution in sight.
LOL. I still disagree with you but the ad hominem attacks were stupid. My point is that the post you were replying to obviously put the two worlds of closed source and open source in different areas and didn't say the same rules apply to both. That's conjecture but I think it is simply obvious from the post. So I still maintain you were/are being rather pedantic but each to his own.
In other words you're picking at his words instead of the world he is looking at. Can you say boring? And now, for the ultimate irony, I'm doing the same. Boring...
Doh, s/server/servers - yes, I do manage more than one :).
You make a good point but where I'm coming from is needing servers for basic tasks like http, email, etc. I'd rather run a recent release of Apache than the old release in stable because it is simply way too far out of date. The same problem with mod_php4, same problem with numerous other things. Sure it'll work just fine how you have it setup and yes you can get Debian to do what you want but the issue is that if they can't get a stable release out the door on a regular basis is there ever going to be salvation for these problems? Will we always need to hack around the problem or simply live with outdated software?
I like neither option so until a stable release gets pushed out the door on a regular basis (not just the next stable release but the one after that and the next) I simply won't use Debian on my server.
Where do I submit the "stable is taking forever to release, why don't you guys just give up" bug report on bugs.debian.org? Seriously, Debian isn't a viable alternative for an up to date linux server which many people need. If a stable release comes out every 5 years what is the point? I like running Debian unstable on my laptop but stable on servers? No way...
I tried Red Carpet a while back. Just took a look at Ximian.com. What's the deal? Do you pay them a certain amount per month or is Red Carpet free with purchase of $30/$50 package? If there isn't a monthly cost how do they stay in business?
In a similar note I wonder how the hell debian.org can afford the bandwidth for all the apt-get'ing. I know there are plenty of mirrors but still...
I'm with you. I run FreeBSD on my home server. I disagree with Debian being an option - "stable" is just too freaking out of date to run and unstable on a server just isn't tempting. I run Debian unstable on my laptop though.
At work I caved in and decided to just move everything to RedHat. I hope RedHat works on up2date/rpm/whatever so you can move from one release of the os to another with minimal breakage just like FreeBSD and Debian. If I ever colocate a box there is not a chance in hell it will run RedHat. My first choice would be FreeBSD just for ease of maintenance. When you can't get to the machine physically without a lot of time/effort/$$$ why run something that is simply inefficent for your purpose. That's the way I see it...
I agree. Recently I was tempted to buy Opera for Linux but now Mozilla just rocks (tabbed browsing, no popups, etc). The other thing that made me stick with Mozilla is that the IMAP mail client also works extremely well.
Only downsides with Mozilla that I see are:
1) javascript is dead slow
2) java on some sites doesn't like to work with the java plugin or is damn slow (bad dom in browser? or bad java vm?)
3) can't delete IMAP folders in mail client (remove them from view)
4) newsgroups aren't sorted alphabetically (I bet some mozilla jack ass thinks this is the "right way to do things" just like not having a home button on the main menu is the "right thing to do").
But anyway, I can't overlook those downsides because I suspect most of them will be fixed soon...
Open up your brain and adjust a few things:
1) Microsoft platform = closed source(*). Microsoft Office is loaded on practically every single corporate PC out there and at least half of all home machines.
2) Linux platform = open source(*). GCC is open source. GCC is on every single linux server and desktop with the development stuff loaded.
I don't see the contradiction. You might see it if you were a pedantic asshole only concerned with logic instead of a realistic world view.
* generalizations - generalizations don't cover all cases, included this in case you are a pedantic monkey butt... Of course there are open source apps on Win32 and closed source apps on Linux but we are talking majority.
Did you open up the file again and double check it's still set? I went to the link and I didn't get any popups - I did have Mozilla itself popup and ask if I wanted to get the java plugin (not installed). Perhaps this java thingy they have on their site opens the windows?
Anyway, see the other reply about users.js or whatever it's called. If you are already using that maybe try adding it to prefs.js and see what happens.
Ah! I did not know that about user.js. That sounds much nicer than playing with prefs.js for all the reasons you have outlined.
Thanks!
BestBuy supposedly has Quake III for Linux onsale for $9.99. Haven't gone to get a copy yet (I was a quake 2 addict but I never tried quake 3 after the betas).
Doh! Don't put the quotes on the font size as it doesn't work. I copied this from a saved text file instead of my prefs.js. So:
user_pref("font.minimum-size.x-western", 10);
user_pref("font.minimum-size.x-western", "10");
h ic al", false);
e d_ support", true);
o ns -per-proxy", 24);
o ns -per-server", 12);
:).
of course most cool award goes to:
user_pref("dom.disable_open_during_load", true);
(no popups onload from javascript but clicked popups still work)
also good:
user_pref("image.animation_mode", "once");
user_pref("network.http.max-connections", 128);
user_pref("network.huser_pref("mail.quoted_grap
user_pref("mail.display_glyph", true);
user_pref("mail.quoteasblock", true);
user_pref("mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed", true);
user_pref("mailnews.display.disable_format_flow
user_pref("mail.display_struct", true);
user_pref("mail.send_struct", false);ttp.max-connections-per-server", 48);
user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connecti
user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connecti
On *nix go to ~/.mozilla/default/something_random/ and edit prefs.js - note, copy it to prefs.js.new, edit it, close mozilla, copy it over prefs.js, restart mozilla, tada (if you edit it while moz is open it'll kill your new prefs.js version because it writes it out on exit or something).
Under Windows go to \Documents and Settings\ to your directory (make sure you have "show all files" in the folder prefs) and you'll find it. Or use that search feature
Somehow I suspect you don't know what bloat is...
My first reaction too. I thought we were going to get closeup stalking photos of the people that write Counter-Strike cheat code. We need a site like eBay where people can bid money to pay people to track down the scum and take them public. Ah, what a crack pipe dream.
RedHat 7.3? Come on now, after .2 RedHat bumps to the next version so surely you mean RedHat 8.0 :).
I guess it takes awhile to pile through the submissions. This was posted on pclinuxonline.com recently.
/. itself, no need to bitch about reposts of stories at other sites. If you can't see the reasons why please bite yourself. I can't wait until it is unhip to be aloof.
Wow... That takes the cake. It's bad enough to bitch about deja vu reposts from
Thank you for clarifying the issue. I do not have any experience with x86 SMP servers with > 2 cpus so I did not think along those lines. I now understand where you are coming from...
Bzzzt. You got the fair market price for the item(*). If you could sell it for more somewhere else why didn't you? Sure, sometimes people get a steal on eBay but that is how auctions work. Just because you got denied when trying to fleece someone else doesn't mean that starting with a low price is a fallacy.
* Personally I would avoid starting an item with a really low price that is in low demand/relatively unknown because there are few bidders for such items. Again, think auctions or just plain think...