The Bios doesn't know anything about partitioning. It only knows it needs to read sector 0 of a disk into memory at 0x7c00 and jump to it. If the disk is MBR partitioned that's the MBR and the code there knows how to scan the partition table, and load the boot sector of the partition table using INT 13h. If it's not partitioned sector 0 is the boot sector of the partition table already and will use INT 13h to load the OS boot loader.
GPT is different because sector 0 contains a "Protective MBR" that just reserves the whole disk. That doesn't contain any code - EFI Bioses need to read boot code from a special FAT formatted partition (Macs apparently use HFS+ instead). EFI Bioses offer a much more complicated API than the Bios, which is good in some ways (flexibility) and bad in others (more chance of bugs).
But non partitioned disks have always been supported. In fact floppy disks are always non partitioned.
Actually it's a shame that sector 0 of an GPT disk doesn't contain code to load a boot manager that understands GPT to allow booting from a GPT disk with an old fashioned Bios. Or that some way for old style Bioses to boot from disks with a partition table with 64 bit LBAs in wasn't developed - MBR partitioning only has space for 32 bit LBAs. Which means no support for disks bigger than 2TB.
He's also missing the point that the link from Schrödinger's Cat to not doing biodiversity studies is completely bogus and I was just teasing Doc Ruby by making that link to make it look like he was arguing the exact opposite of what he was actually arguing.
If Shrodinger's cat were the last cat then cats would be in a superposed state of extinct and not extinct so long as no additional biodiversity research was done.
I think he's trying to say we shouldn't do the research, but maybe I've misunderstood.
Actually Intel had a radical way to handle this - Larrabee. It was going to be 48 in order processors on a die with Larrabee new instructions. There was a Siggraph paper with very impressive scalability figures for a bunch of games running DirectX in software - they captured the DirectX calls from a machine with a conventional CPU and GPU and injected them into a Larrabee simulator.
This was going to be a very interesting machine - you'd have a machine with good but not great gaming performance and killer server performance - servers are naturally "embarrassingly parallel" because you can have one thread per client. A sort of x86 take on Sun's Niagra.
Of course there are problems with this sort of approach. Most current games are not very well threaded - they have a small number of threads that will run poorly on an in order CPU. So if the only chip you had was a Larrabee and it was both a CPU and a GPU the GPU part would be well balanced across multiple cores. The CPU part would likely not. You have to wonder about memory bandwidth too.
Larrabee was switched to be a GPU only and then canned.
Of course as a pure GPU it is a bit of a poor design. Real GPUs don't drag in x86 compatibility - they can implement whatever instruction set is best and nothing else. The instruction set is not publicly exposed and can change from generation to generation. You can cram a lot more than 48 cores onto a GPU and the peak performance is higher. Power consumption is lower too.
Still a modern gaming GPU is huge - there's no way you're going to cram it and a modern GPU onto a die and get something affordable. Then again CPUGPU chips are probably not aimed at gamers - there's an argument for having a CPU and a stripped down integrated GPU on one chip for netbooks like the latest Atoms do.
You could cram in a chipset too to reduce the price on netbooks.
Here's a modest proposal. Support a way to run binary plugins with a stable ABI. Then third parties with a patent license could produce plugins which played the patented format. Some of those third parties might go beyond just supporting H.264. They could have a byte code language to allow interactivity for example. It could be JITted to native code for speed. Others might provide a plugin to play a whole bunch of formats - H.264 and whatever other ones they are promoting.
This ABI could be supported across several browsers.
Your staring score is back at zero now. It's interesting - only about 8 upmods takes you from -1 to 0. Another 8 will probably take you back to 1. Just say some stuff the hive mind will approve of and then go back to trolling.
That's not a bug - that's just that all applications misinterpret the POSIX specification. Ext4 correctly loses data in this case, correcting a bug in Ext3 where data was inadvertently preserved. This is the reason for Ext4's slightly higher performance over Ext3.
TL;DR doesn't always imply literal verboseness. I find it to commonly mean one of the following: 1) unnecessarily long-winded posts, i.e., 6+ paragraphs for something non-interesting. GP doesn't fit here. 2) badly-formatted posts of larger-than-average size. 3) uninspired, or boring, droll language that stops you at the second sentence; usually 3 or more paragraphs in length.
GP fails both #2 and #3. It's not only terribly written, it comes across as forced humor.
Your stupid Earth mind cannot conceive power of Kim Il Sung Juche Physics.
Unless you send FIVE (5) million tonnes of rice, TEN POINT TWO (10.2) million tonnes of kimchi, FIFTY FOUR POINT SIX (54.6) million tonnes of ramen now you will be destroyed by my Solanite bombs.
The G spot is more like the slightly textured touch pad you get one some machines - especially if you lubricate it with some WD40 you've warmed up a bit.
If my ex boss is reading this - remember that exploding WD40 can in the kitchen. Guess what....
Maybe AmberBlackCat is a 500lb basement dwelling furry, his friend is an (possibly imaginary) zoophile and his friend's "husband" is actually his parents' soon to be fixed golden retriever.
Maybe I spend too much time at Encyclopedia Dramatica.
Weird thing about Starship Troopers - in the movie the humans seem to be the bad guys. It's a distopian take on Heinlein's trains-running-on-time.
Yeah, this is obvious to me. And yet Heinlein fans always say things like "they totally ruined the book. There's no power armour and the infantry tactices are laughable"
To me that's just because the movie is a satire. Verhoeven said it was a movie written from the perspective of the young Germans who invaded his "homeland". In which case the clusterfuck we see when they invade Klendathu is analogous to the German's failed attack on the Soviet Union - arrogance, overconfidence poor planning and staggering strategic miscalculation make them piss away their superb military.
And it's not just Heinleinist societies that make this mistake - look at the US and UK in Iraq and Afghanistan. The difference is that in a democracy people will sooner or later vote the troops out of the war if victory isn't achieved quickly. A military dictatorship will either level the place or get obliterated.
I saw Starship Troopers in Sweden late at night and quite drunk. And all the idiots cheering when the Brain Bug is being tortured and missing the subversive theme made me really queasy. Verhoeven is a genius.
I like Black Book too - it's a movie that is designed to troll the Dutch in the same way Starship Troopers trolls right wing militaristic American and Brits - people like me basically.
Well you said you'd served in the US Military. In which you case you swore an oath to uphold the US Constitution. Also using force to overthrow the US constitution is treason if you are a US citizen.
E.g.
From the book
With national governments in collapse at the end of the XXth century, something had to fill the vacuum, and in many cases it was the returned veterans. They had lost a war, most of them had no jobs, many were sore as could be over the terms of the Treaty of New Delhi, especially the P.O.W. foul-up - and they knew how to fight. But it wasn't revolution; it was more like what happened in Russia in 1917 - the system collapsed; somebody else moved in. The first known case, in Aberdeen, Scotland, was typical. Some veterans got together as vigilantes to stop rioting and looting, hanged a few people (including two veterans) and decided not to let anyone but veterans on their committee. Just arbitrary at first - they trusted each other a bit, they didn't trust anyone else. What started as an emergency measure became constitutional practice in a generation or two.
"They knew how to fight" implies that they used force to set up their system. Also if this happened in the US they have clearly abrogated the constitution they swore to defend. They have committed treason.
Ironically enough what happened in Russia in 1917 was not that "the system collapsed and someone else moved in". Or not just that. The was a revolution in 1917 which set up a liberal Provisional Government committed to free elections. It was then hijacked by the Bolsheviks - a well armed minority like Heinlein's veterans - who abolished parliament and set up a dictatorship where only non Bolsheviks were disenfranchised.
Incidentally societies like this don't have lots of cool technology like power armour and FTL. They tend to stagnate technologically, produce little literature of note and tend to have a high death toll from famine and low level civil war. They also tend to lose wars to democracies - e.g. the Soviet Union versus Finland. Basically they are crap.
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The Bios doesn't know anything about partitioning. It only knows it needs to read sector 0 of a disk into memory at 0x7c00 and jump to it. If the disk is MBR partitioned that's the MBR and the code there knows how to scan the partition table, and load the boot sector of the partition table using INT 13h. If it's not partitioned sector 0 is the boot sector of the partition table already and will use INT 13h to load the OS boot loader.
GPT is different because sector 0 contains a "Protective MBR" that just reserves the whole disk. That doesn't contain any code - EFI Bioses need to read boot code from a special FAT formatted partition (Macs apparently use HFS+ instead). EFI Bioses offer a much more complicated API than the Bios, which is good in some ways (flexibility) and bad in others (more chance of bugs).
But non partitioned disks have always been supported. In fact floppy disks are always non partitioned.
Actually it's a shame that sector 0 of an GPT disk doesn't contain code to load a boot manager that understands GPT to allow booting from a GPT disk with an old fashioned Bios. Or that some way for old style Bioses to boot from disks with a partition table with 64 bit LBAs in wasn't developed - MBR partitioning only has space for 32 bit LBAs. Which means no support for disks bigger than 2TB.
Here we go again, unless we stop supporting the Spanish Republicans Herr Hitler has threatened to invade Poland.
The Judge's name is Kimba.
A Japanese film called Kimba The White Lion was remixed by Disney into "The Lion King".
http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm
It's ironic that Disney now claims exclusive rights to the remix and claims it is 100% original and that they were not aware of Kimba.
Ok, perhaps somewhat of a tangent.
He's also missing the point that the link from Schrödinger's Cat to not doing biodiversity studies is completely bogus and I was just teasing Doc Ruby by making that link to make it look like he was arguing the exact opposite of what he was actually arguing.
Humans haven't yet made as big a mess as photosynthetic plants did 2.4 billion years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Oxygenation_Event
If Shrodinger's cat were the last cat then cats would be in a superposed state of extinct and not extinct so long as no additional biodiversity research was done.
I think he's trying to say we shouldn't do the research, but maybe I've misunderstood.
It seems like the caching issues could be fixed with prefetch instructions that can fetch bigger chunks. Which it apparently has.
Still just fetching instructions for 48 cores is a huge amount of bandwidth.
http://perilsofparallel.blogspot.com/2010/01/problem-with-larrabee.html
Let's say there are 100 processors (high end of numbers I've heard). 4 threads / processor. 2 GHz (he said the clock was measured in GHz).
That's 100 cores x 4 treads x 2 GHz x 2 bytes = 1600 GB/s.
Let's put that number in perspective:
* It's moving more than the entire contents of a 1.5 TB disk drive every second.
* It's more than 100 times the bandwidth of Intel's shiny new QuickPath system interconnect (12.8 GB/s per direction).
* It would soak up the output of 33 banks of DDR3-SDRAM, all three channels, 192 bits per channel, 48 GB/s aggregate per bank.
In other words, it's impossible.
So 48 cores needs 16 banks of DDR3-SDRAM.
That was my point.
Ok, I Godwon(tm) the argument.
Actually Intel had a radical way to handle this - Larrabee. It was going to be 48 in order processors on a die with Larrabee new instructions. There was a Siggraph paper with very impressive scalability figures for a bunch of games running DirectX in software - they captured the DirectX calls from a machine with a conventional CPU and GPU and injected them into a Larrabee simulator.
This was going to be a very interesting machine - you'd have a machine with good but not great gaming performance and killer server performance - servers are naturally "embarrassingly parallel" because you can have one thread per client. A sort of x86 take on Sun's Niagra.
Of course there are problems with this sort of approach. Most current games are not very well threaded - they have a small number of threads that will run poorly on an in order CPU. So if the only chip you had was a Larrabee and it was both a CPU and a GPU the GPU part would be well balanced across multiple cores. The CPU part would likely not. You have to wonder about memory bandwidth too.
Larrabee was switched to be a GPU only and then canned.
Of course as a pure GPU it is a bit of a poor design. Real GPUs don't drag in x86 compatibility - they can implement whatever instruction set is best and nothing else. The instruction set is not publicly exposed and can change from generation to generation. You can cram a lot more than 48 cores onto a GPU and the peak performance is higher. Power consumption is lower too.
Still a modern gaming GPU is huge - there's no way you're going to cram it and a modern GPU onto a die and get something affordable. Then again CPUGPU chips are probably not aimed at gamers - there's an argument for having a CPU and a stripped down integrated GPU on one chip for netbooks like the latest Atoms do.
You could cram in a chipset too to reduce the price on netbooks.
Here's a modest proposal. Support a way to run binary plugins with a stable ABI. Then third parties with a patent license could produce plugins which played the patented format. Some of those third parties might go beyond just supporting H.264. They could have a byte code language to allow interactivity for example. It could be JITted to native code for speed. Others might provide a plugin to play a whole bunch of formats - H.264 and whatever other ones they are promoting.
This ABI could be supported across several browsers.
Your staring score is back at zero now. It's interesting - only about 8 upmods takes you from -1 to 0. Another 8 will probably take you back to 1. Just say some stuff the hive mind will approve of and then go back to trolling.
"By the way Pastor Niemoller, how many thousand year Reichs have you built?"
Yeah, I Godwinned it.
That's not a bug - that's just that all applications misinterpret the POSIX specification. Ext4 correctly loses data in this case, correcting a bug in Ext3 where data was inadvertently preserved. This is the reason for Ext4's slightly higher performance over Ext3.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4#Delayed_allocation_and_potential_data_loss
TL;DR doesn't always imply literal verboseness. I find it to commonly mean one of the following:
1) unnecessarily long-winded posts, i.e., 6+ paragraphs for something non-interesting. GP doesn't fit here.
2) badly-formatted posts of larger-than-average size.
3) uninspired, or boring, droll language that stops you at the second sentence; usually 3 or more paragraphs in length.
GP fails both #2 and #3. It's not only terribly written, it comes across as forced humor.
TL;DR
Or a greedy torrenter on a flat rate internet connection.
Your stupid Earth mind cannot conceive power of Kim Il Sung Juche Physics.
Unless you send FIVE (5) million tonnes of rice, TEN POINT TWO (10.2) million tonnes of kimchi, FIFTY FOUR POINT SIX (54.6) million tonnes of ramen now you will be destroyed by my Solanite bombs.
The G spot is more like the slightly textured touch pad you get one some machines - especially if you lubricate it with some WD40 you've warmed up a bit.
If my ex boss is reading this - remember that exploding WD40 can in the kitchen. Guess what....
Maybe AmberBlackCat is a 500lb basement dwelling furry, his friend is an (possibly imaginary) zoophile and his friend's "husband" is actually his parents' soon to be fixed golden retriever.
Maybe I spend too much time at Encyclopedia Dramatica.
Scrolling? Everyone knows text based MRIs like viMRI are much more user friendly.
Ctrl+Shift+L Alt+R Windows key+ACPI Sleep Button+u to scroll up
What if Ms Kagan runs Linux?
Reuters? Pfft!
I always get my news from actungjudenverboten.com. I like their arts coverage.
Weird thing about Starship Troopers - in the movie the humans seem to be the bad guys. It's a distopian take on Heinlein's trains-running-on-time.
Yeah, this is obvious to me. And yet Heinlein fans always say things like "they totally ruined the book. There's no power armour and the infantry tactices are laughable"
To me that's just because the movie is a satire. Verhoeven said it was a movie written from the perspective of the young Germans who invaded his "homeland". In which case the clusterfuck we see when they invade Klendathu is analogous to the German's failed attack on the Soviet Union - arrogance, overconfidence poor planning and staggering strategic miscalculation make them piss away their superb military.
And it's not just Heinleinist societies that make this mistake - look at the US and UK in Iraq and Afghanistan. The difference is that in a democracy people will sooner or later vote the troops out of the war if victory isn't achieved quickly. A military dictatorship will either level the place or get obliterated.
I saw Starship Troopers in Sweden late at night and quite drunk. And all the idiots cheering when the Brain Bug is being tortured and missing the subversive theme made me really queasy. Verhoeven is a genius.
I like Black Book too - it's a movie that is designed to troll the Dutch in the same way Starship Troopers trolls right wing militaristic American and Brits - people like me basically.
Well you said you'd served in the US Military. In which you case you swore an oath to uphold the US Constitution. Also using force to overthrow the US constitution is treason if you are a US citizen.
E.g.
From the book
With national governments in collapse at the end of the XXth century, something had to fill the vacuum, and in many cases it was the returned veterans. They had lost a war, most of them had no jobs, many were sore as could be over the terms of the Treaty of New Delhi, especially the P.O.W. foul-up - and they knew how to fight. But it wasn't revolution; it was more like what happened in Russia in 1917 - the system collapsed; somebody else moved in. The first known case, in Aberdeen, Scotland, was typical. Some veterans got together as vigilantes to stop rioting and looting, hanged a few people (including two veterans) and decided not to let anyone but veterans on their committee. Just arbitrary at first - they trusted each other a bit, they didn't trust anyone else. What started as an emergency measure became constitutional practice in a generation or two.
"They knew how to fight" implies that they used force to set up their system. Also if this happened in the US they have clearly abrogated the constitution they swore to defend. They have committed treason.
Ironically enough what happened in Russia in 1917 was not that "the system collapsed and someone else moved in". Or not just that. The was a revolution in 1917 which set up a liberal Provisional Government committed to free elections. It was then hijacked by the Bolsheviks - a well armed minority like Heinlein's veterans - who abolished parliament and set up a dictatorship where only non Bolsheviks were disenfranchised.
Incidentally societies like this don't have lots of cool technology like power armour and FTL. They tend to stagnate technologically, produce little literature of note and tend to have a high death toll from famine and low level civil war. They also tend to lose wars to democracies - e.g. the Soviet Union versus Finland. Basically they are crap.
If I get my IP from someone else without paying, why should they continue to release it?