4chan has always been royally fucked, trolling their is like pissing in an ocean of piss. Kind of like using the restroom at Centreville Dunkin' Donuts.
For some reason this reminds me of this Caddyshack 2 quote
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094824/quotes [Chandler Young has gotten Hartounian Construction's power turned off] Peter Blunt: [on phone] That's hard to say, huh? Well, when can we get the power turned back on? That's hard to say, huh? Well, tell me something. Is it as hard to say as "Oh, my god! Somebody help me! There's a man in my office with a *flamethrower*"?
Hey, have mercy on poor Bruce! He's not a coder (not a good one, at the very l33t), he's not a lawyer, he's not a visionary like RMS - but he still wants to feel important, too.
The problem isn't that information can be published anonymously. The problem is that people put too much weight on completely unsubstantiated rumors and trivial misbehaviors.
"This thing is so well designed, your grandmother could use it."
As a 48 yo grandmother, feminist, and longtime C programmer, I find that offensive. It's agist and sexist. No one would have said "...your grandfather could use it."!!
If you stayed in the kitchen you wouldn't be in any danger of reading offensive stuff on the internet.
Some of them are US based but will ship. If they'll ship to Germany, there's no reason why they won't ship to the Netherlands.
Those ODM contracts that forced people to install Windows on every machine if they wanted to install it on any of them have been changed. That's why you can get Dells with Freedos or Linux.
Though actually it's not unlicensed now - it is manufactured by STM who have a MIPS architecture license.
The Chinese have unlicensed GSM and 3G chipsets too. My point is that for stuff they sell abroad they need to somehow get a patent license. That means they import GSM and 3G chipsets from western companies, and they also need to pay money to STM to be able to sell their Loongson chips in the US to avoid a patent lawsuit.
Hence patent law protects jobs in the West, because that's where all the patents are. If it didn't exist they wouldn't need to import stuff or pay money to STM, Intel or Qualcomm.
It's because of macfags. Japanese people have advanced technology and that has immunised them against macfaggotry. In America macfaggotry rules and technology has been retarded. Like you and your mother.
You can change though. When you see a phone, don't look at how shiny it is or how elegant the user interface, ask how many megapixels the camera has, what CPU speed, ram/flash size it has and if it has a built in wine guide, tv receiver, 3G, Wifi, Japanese to English dictionary, sandwich maker etc. Count the features and buy the phone with the most, even if it is a bit ugly, the fan is a bit noisy when it warms up and you need to learn EMACSish key sequences to send a text message. Then you will be purged of the SIN of macfaggotry and so will your country.
Price wise, the C90S retails for roughly $700 as a barebone, which includes everything but the CPU, RAM, graphics card, and hard drive. Users can also add a wireless card, and purchasing an operating system will also be needed.
The open-source n Series laptops feature select popular models from the LatitudeTM line available with a copy of the FreeDOSTM open-source operating system included in the box, ready to install. It is not a Microsoft operating system and is not qualified for Windows licensing use under any existing Microsoft Volume Licensing Program (OPEN, Enterprise, etc.) Customers interested in a Microsoft Windows solution should purchase a Dell laptop pre-loaded with Windows XP Professional.
Why not move to sunny North Korea? We're always looking for talented people. Particularly engineers with detailed knowledge useful to our three main industries of Weapons Development (Defensive), Weapons Development (Offensive) and Weapons Development (James Bond villain).
PLEASE HELP ME I HAVE BEEN KIDNAPPED AND FORCED TO WORK IN
Our IP is getting in our way. That is why our forefathers created SHORT TERM IP rights. Now, it is just a money maker for a bit longer, but is KILLING the west.
IP rights have their uses. I happen to know that China has cloned processors and that are unlicensed. Inside China anything you buy will use one of those. For the export market Chinese companies have to import legal components from somone who has a license. So if you work for US processor manufacturer for example, IP law is protecting your job. I suspect that if you have an engineering job in a rich country, IP licensing is one of the things that pays your salary.
You joke about this but it does happen. I've worked on projects where there are people working all over the place. E.g. Euro/US company designs something and manufactures it in China and the software is done by an Indiam company.
So far, so conventional. But the Chinese are often just assembling parts that come from the US (e.g. processors from Intel, components from Europe, displays from Korea and batteries from Japan) and immediately exporting them. And the Indian company might subcontract work back to Europe or to the US. It's simplistic to say that work has moved from Europe/the US to China/India, it's more accurate to say that China and India have joined in networks that were global before.
And it's also simplistic to say that jobs are always moved from high wage countries to low wage ones. I've seen projects move from the US to Northern Europe for instance, or from Eastern Europe to Western Europe.
The other thing is that labour costs aren't everything. If you have an efficient company making components they are a tiny fraction of your gross sales. Finally there's a pecking order in terms of where the money ends up - and low wage low skill places are not very high in it. A factory in China makes a tiny percentage of the sticker price on a laptop - most of it stays in the country it was bought or was used to buy parts for import. Most of those Indian consultancy companies are going to end up going bust because they bill several clients for one hour of developer time and thus have a low perceived productivity. The few good ones that survive are quickly going to start charging the same rates that US or European companies charge.
Back when Indian and China opened up I thought it would gut engineering in rich countries. That hasn't happened and my few trips to both places tells me it won't happen. Probably consultancy rates would have been 10% higher if they weren't there, if that.
Dell and HP sell both servers and desktops with Linux or FreeDos pre installed. Or as you pointed out you can build your own. Or buy an Apple, which these days is essentially PC hardware running OS X, i.e. their own OS.
If you go to a store all the cheap netbooks are running some version of Linux. Infact if Microsoft hadn't kept XP alive and cut the price, all netbooks would run Linux. They're rushing out Windows 7 because it doesn't suck on a netbook, unlike Vista.
Wallmart sell desktops running Linux. It's possible to install OS X on pretty much any PC with a bit of fiddling around. Or Linux, or any of the BSDs. Or you could write your own OS from scratch, buy a machine with Freedos on it (i.e. you pay $0 for an OS license with the machine) and install that. If your OS became popular you could even get Dell to offer it as preinstall option along with Windows, Linux and Freedos. I'm sure if Apple wanted to do this they would be able to. IIRC it was Microsoft preventing OEMs like Dell from bundling BeOS that lead to the original monopoly judgement in the US.
Microsoft should go back and get the original monopoly judgement in the US overturned.
If you search for "file system" and inassignee:microsoft you get even more. More to the point, since NTFS was developed at a time when they were patent aware, unlike FAT, and the structure is complex and sui generis, it seems likely that they have patents which you would have to infringe in order to make a compatible implementation. A good thing to patent would be the log file, or the way data blocks are stored as runs in the inodes, or the way directories are indexed.
The problem is a lot of things fall at one of the hurdles to becoming ubiquitous.
E.g. Field Emissions Displays looked promising a few years back and I thought they'd end up being used in pretty much all TVs. Oddly enough LCDs which back then were crap and expensive have ended up being good and cheap and have replaced CRTs almost completely.
I thought the same thing would happen with Plasma v LCD, but it seems to have peaked. It's still quite possible OLEDs will stay in the niche market of small screens for PMPs and never manage to compete with LCDs. Like ePaper
Similarly with batteries if you read the technical media from a few years back there were loads of promising technologies that never made it.
Basically it seems like in each area dozens of technologies get to the demo stage, less make it to the niche product stage (e.g. ePaper ebook readers or OLED screens on PMPs) and maybe one or two become ubiquitous until they are dethroned (CRTs and then LCD/Plasma)
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Maybe they are Dell or Intel sleeper agents.
Not so fast. If Psion haven't been selling netbooks for five years before they sued, they could lose the trademark.
http://www.mtpt.co.uk/2008/12/a-netbook-by-any-other-name-or-how-psion-is-going-discover-you-have-to-use-it-or-lose-it.html
nslookup www.savethenetbooks.com
Name: ghs.l.google.com
Address: 72.14.235.121
Aliases: www.savethenetbooks.com
ghs.google.com
whois from http://centralops.net/co/ gives
Domain Name: SAVETHENETBOOKS.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com/
Name Server: NS15.ZONEEDIT.COM
Name Server: NS17.ZONEEDIT.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 16-feb-2009
Creation Date: 16-feb-2009
Expiration Date: 16-feb-2010
I guess Intel or Dell own it.
4chan has always been royally fucked, trolling their is like pissing in an ocean of piss. Kind of like using the restroom at Centreville Dunkin' Donuts.
For some reason this reminds me of this Caddyshack 2 quote
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094824/quotes
[Chandler Young has gotten Hartounian Construction's power turned off]
Peter Blunt: [on phone] That's hard to say, huh? Well, when can we get the power turned back on? That's hard to say, huh? Well, tell me something. Is it as hard to say as "Oh, my god! Somebody help me! There's a man in my office with a *flamethrower*"?
Read the whole thing, it's obviously designed to only license to the patents to someone interacting with EFI.
Hey, have mercy on poor Bruce! He's not a coder (not a good one, at the very l33t), he's not a lawyer, he's not a visionary like RMS - but he still wants to feel important, too.
Don't burst his bubble!
Fixed that for you
The problem isn't that information can be published anonymously. The problem is that people put too much weight on completely unsubstantiated rumors and trivial misbehaviors.
Like the fact that kdawson is a catshagger?
From the article:
"This thing is so well designed, your grandmother could use it."
As a 48 yo grandmother, feminist, and longtime C programmer, I find that offensive. It's agist and sexist. No one would have said "...your grandfather could use it."!!
If you stayed in the kitchen you wouldn't be in any danger of reading offensive stuff on the internet.
This site lists several people who sell open source laptops in the Netherlands
http://tuxmobil.org/reseller.html
If they did and and stopped, maybe they didn't just sell enough.
Actually Zepto Computers sell barebones computers from Compal all over Europe.
And there are these companies recommended for Germany -
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3400
Some of them are US based but will ship. If they'll ship to Germany, there's no reason why they won't ship to the Netherlands.
Those ODM contracts that forced people to install Windows on every machine if they wanted to install it on any of them have been changed. That's why you can get Dells with Freedos or Linux.
This is an unlicensed Mips clone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson
Though actually it's not unlicensed now - it is manufactured by STM who have a MIPS architecture license.
The Chinese have unlicensed GSM and 3G chipsets too. My point is that for stuff they sell abroad they need to somehow get a patent license. That means they import GSM and 3G chipsets from western companies, and they also need to pay money to STM to be able to sell their Loongson chips in the US to avoid a patent lawsuit.
Hence patent law protects jobs in the West, because that's where all the patents are. If it didn't exist they wouldn't need to import stuff or pay money to STM, Intel or Qualcomm.
It's because of macfags. Japanese people have advanced technology and that has immunised them against macfaggotry. In America macfaggotry rules and technology has been retarded. Like you and your mother.
You can change though. When you see a phone, don't look at how shiny it is or how elegant the user interface, ask how many megapixels the camera has, what CPU speed, ram/flash size it has and if it has a built in wine guide, tv receiver, 3G, Wifi, Japanese to English dictionary, sandwich maker etc. Count the features and buy the phone with the most, even if it is a bit ugly, the fan is a bit noisy when it warms up and you need to learn EMACSish key sequences to send a text message. Then you will be purged of the SIN of macfaggotry and so will your country.
You best be trolling, gaijin.
Actually you can buy barebones notebooks too, e.g.
http://www.techspot.com/review/97-asus-c90s-laptop/page10.html
Price wise, the C90S retails for roughly $700 as a barebone, which includes everything but the CPU, RAM, graphics card, and hard drive. Users can also add a wireless card, and purchasing an operating system will also be needed.
You can buy one here
http://www.blazintech.net/laptops/asus-c90s-15-4-inch-wsxga-core-2-duo-w/-dvdrw-notebook-barebone-computer/prod_27197.html
You add a CPU, HDD, Memory, MXM Video card and then install whatever OS you want on it. Just like building a desktop system.
Why didn't you buy one of these
http://www.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/nseries_nb?s=bsd
The open-source n Series laptops feature select popular models from the LatitudeTM line available with a copy of the FreeDOSTM open-source operating system included in the box, ready to install. It is not a Microsoft operating system and is not qualified for Windows licensing use under any existing Microsoft Volume Licensing Program (OPEN, Enterprise, etc.) Customers interested in a Microsoft Windows solution should purchase a Dell laptop pre-loaded with Windows XP Professional.
Comes with FreeDos - no MS "tax" there.
Why not move to sunny North Korea? We're always looking for talented people. Particularly engineers with detailed knowledge useful to our three main industries of Weapons Development (Defensive), Weapons Development (Offensive) and Weapons Development (James Bond villain).
PLEASE HELP ME I HAVE BEEN KIDNAPPED AND FORCED TO WORK IN
Several thoughts;
IP rights have their uses. I happen to know that China has cloned processors and that are unlicensed. Inside China anything you buy will use one of those. For the export market Chinese companies have to import legal components from somone who has a license. So if you work for US processor manufacturer for example, IP law is protecting your job. I suspect that if you have an engineering job in a rich country, IP licensing is one of the things that pays your salary.
You joke about this but it does happen. I've worked on projects where there are people working all over the place. E.g. Euro/US company designs something and manufactures it in China and the software is done by an Indiam company.
So far, so conventional. But the Chinese are often just assembling parts that come from the US (e.g. processors from Intel, components from Europe, displays from Korea and batteries from Japan) and immediately exporting them. And the Indian company might subcontract work back to Europe or to the US. It's simplistic to say that work has moved from Europe/the US to China/India, it's more accurate to say that China and India have joined in networks that were global before.
And it's also simplistic to say that jobs are always moved from high wage countries to low wage ones. I've seen projects move from the US to Northern Europe for instance, or from Eastern Europe to Western Europe.
The other thing is that labour costs aren't everything. If you have an efficient company making components they are a tiny fraction of your gross sales. Finally there's a pecking order in terms of where the money ends up - and low wage low skill places are not very high in it. A factory in China makes a tiny percentage of the sticker price on a laptop - most of it stays in the country it was bought or was used to buy parts for import. Most of those Indian consultancy companies are going to end up going bust because they bill several clients for one hour of developer time and thus have a low perceived productivity. The few good ones that survive are quickly going to start charging the same rates that US or European companies charge.
Back when Indian and China opened up I thought it would gut engineering in rich countries. That hasn't happened and my few trips to both places tells me it won't happen. Probably consultancy rates would have been 10% higher if they weren't there, if that.
If you stick to Microsoft products you won't have to worry about open sores.
Now these case studies on health damage get funded by non partisan charities like the Gates Foundation. Next up, Macs give you CANCER.
It would probably make a good boat anchor too.
Er.. In addition to it's use as an excellent games console of course.
Nice to see at least something coming out of that region of the world nowadays that has no relation to terrorists or nukes.
Nonsense. This is clearly a prototype terrorist water tentacle.
Dell and HP sell both servers and desktops with Linux or FreeDos pre installed. Or as you pointed out you can build your own. Or buy an Apple, which these days is essentially PC hardware running OS X, i.e. their own OS.
If you go to a store all the cheap netbooks are running some version of Linux. Infact if Microsoft hadn't kept XP alive and cut the price, all netbooks would run Linux. They're rushing out Windows 7 because it doesn't suck on a netbook, unlike Vista.
Wallmart sell desktops running Linux. It's possible to install OS X on pretty much any PC with a bit of fiddling around. Or Linux, or any of the BSDs. Or you could write your own OS from scratch, buy a machine with Freedos on it (i.e. you pay $0 for an OS license with the machine) and install that. If your OS became popular you could even get Dell to offer it as preinstall option along with Windows, Linux and Freedos. I'm sure if Apple wanted to do this they would be able to. IIRC it was Microsoft preventing OEMs like Dell from bundling BeOS that lead to the original monopoly judgement in the US.
Microsoft should go back and get the original monopoly judgement in the US overturned.
Oh really
http://www.google.com/patents?q=%22ntfs%22+inassignee%3Amicrosoft&btnG=Search+Patents
If you search for "file system" and inassignee:microsoft you get even more. More to the point, since NTFS was developed at a time when they were patent aware, unlike FAT, and the structure is complex and sui generis, it seems likely that they have patents which you would have to infringe in order to make a compatible implementation. A good thing to patent would be the log file, or the way data blocks are stored as runs in the inodes, or the way directories are indexed.
The problem is a lot of things fall at one of the hurdles to becoming ubiquitous.
E.g. Field Emissions Displays looked promising a few years back and I thought they'd end up being used in pretty much all TVs. Oddly enough LCDs which back then were crap and expensive have ended up being good and cheap and have replaced CRTs almost completely.
I thought the same thing would happen with Plasma v LCD, but it seems to have peaked. It's still quite possible OLEDs will stay in the niche market of small screens for PMPs and never manage to compete with LCDs. Like ePaper
Similarly with batteries if you read the technical media from a few years back there were loads of promising technologies that never made it.
Basically it seems like in each area dozens of technologies get to the demo stage, less make it to the niche product stage (e.g. ePaper ebook readers or OLED screens on PMPs) and maybe one or two become ubiquitous until they are dethroned (CRTs and then LCD/Plasma)