Unfortunately I was unable to view the video at work, however it's worth noting for those that may not realize it that even a Canadian 'market' with no growth at all is probably almost 10% larger this year than last, when valued in U.S. dollars, by virtue of the change in exchange rates.
A simple way to fund this would be to sell the scanned plates as scientific history artifacts/souvenirs. I bet you could not only sell them to universities worldwide but also to cosmologists, scientists and astronomy fans in general.
I mean heck, $10 a plate for 500K plates gets us to $5M. I'd pay that without even knowing what I was getting. Up it to $25, $50 or $100 and I'm probably still interested.
Well, they could work on a cost-recovery basis at first, and prioritize 'client' files on demand, adding them to the master DB as they go. If two or more universities want the same palte or same series of plates, they can form an alliance to split the cost. That way, high demand or high interest plates are scanned first, and losses are minimized.
That's not unlike what they've done for GIS datasets in many places for instance, and governments are often the largest single client so far as I know.
I think they were certainly trying to sell to consumers, but also to shareholders and especially distributors/vendors.
Who else would care that the biggest 'holiday' (and here I thought the war on Xmas was dead) ever was generated by the three franchises for which Xbox360 has exclusive rights.
The message? If you're going to carry/hype/stock any console and games, make sure it's this one.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
Actually, it doesn't seem to be the 'average city' it looks like it's the
'average city' in a group of 72 major cities. Which could, in turn, mean many things. But I haven't read the 2002 paper so it's hard to pin this down.
Isn't this a pretty good example of the RIAA or at least the ERA operating as a defacto monopoly in the music business, and using unfair business practices to dissuade/retaliate against fee market competition.
This is the stuff of anti-trust lawsuits, and if De Beers is not allowed to operate inside the U.S., maybe these people should also be sanctioned.
GW Bush was, ironically enough, elected (the first time) on an isolationist platform.
You can ignore the world, but that doesn't mean it will ignore you.
While Wiki does have flaws, what it gets right far outstrips what it gets wrong.
Which is arguably the most dangerous aspect of it. If it was blatantly false, it would not be used by so many as an authoritative source. Not everyone takes everything they read their as true, but too many do.
Imagine the call to war in Iraq 10years after wikipedia, with a consistent set of 'facts' about Iraq added. Colin Powell would never have needed to give his little UN speech.
You'd think in Germany they might be especially wary of 'consensus' history projects, especially within a political context. And about privacy laws too, for that matter (cf. the Google/Gmail story from Saturday).
Before everybody gets all worried about employee privacy (which I agree is a legitimate concern), consider the applications this would have for first responders, particularly in cases where more traditional networks and or critical infrastructure components may fail.
Until a specific application is discussed, dismissing the technology as invasive seems premature.
The implication, I think, was that video game players ("digital natives") are more comfortable with technology than librarians ("digital immigrants").
My point (and yours, I believe) is that this misrepresents the situation, since they need to worry about both designing the system and making it usable. And when a library's organizational system crashes, it crashes hard -- there's no quick reset button.
A digital native would never read an instruction manual with a new game before simply trying the game out, Gee said.
Right. And a library organized by the seat of your pants isn't going to be as useful to natives of either the digital or real world. The reason campus libraries are so useful (and used) is precisely because they have an underlying consistent structure that can handle large collections (one is a requirement of the other).
Librarians should certainly be taking cues from any user interface and database systems they can get, including trendy OSs and iWhatever. In my experience many do.
And we should all play more too.
This is an interesting notion. Voluntarily shutting down blogs, podcast sites and others can maybe help bring some attention to the general public about how seriously worried content creators are about this.
This is actually a very old idea. American Scientist's May-June issue had a interesting piece on a liquid (mercury) telescope, and focused on some of the engineering challenges a team in Birtish Columbia tried to address.
There is no rigid coupling - air cushions and a ring of permanent magnets serve to support and drive the mirror. (via a rotating magnetic field, produced by three stationary field windings).
The other major issue was speed variations from the air currents and interfaces -- they ended up using a mylar film for one problem and a precise (2500 pulses/360 degrees) dynamic correction of rotational velocity. A 4 meter and 8 meter instruments are being built in Chile.
The big advantage of building on the moon is gravity. There first numbers seem to indicate a diameter of about 100 meters could be possible with these ionic liquids (mercury would freeze). (Lack of) atmosphere problems could be addressed by using superconductors as a supporting base.
This seems to be the latest form of internet integration to the "offline" world. The next move will be to charge advertisers on a pay-per-call basis, as MIVA and AOL and others are already doing.
Really, it's an ideal way for more traditional 'walk-in' businesses to make online advertising pay without the need for a huge ecommerce site. It's a natural fit with things like florists, restaurants, and other small businesses -- and will work particularly well on portals like Google Local.
It also a move that anticipates most people will soon have VOIP ready to go on their PCs so you click and bang you're talking without the need for a BBS-style callback which is still quite crude. Maybe the Google toolbar will soon include something for this?
Why don't we just remove the oxygen and make diamonds or at least coal out of the CO2? Oh wait I see that's ridiculous -- the energy cost to do that would be too great.
Never mind the NIMBY BANANA exploding subsurface stuff.
Surprisingly, anti-Microsoft sentiment had less to do with the choice than one might imagine. Linux stands on its own merits. Anti-Microsoft sentiment comes from Microsoft's paranoia, which results in quotes like the one that had Bill Gates saying he'd put Linux in the Computer museum like he has other competitors.
I don't find this surprising at all. You don't run a business on emotion -- you run it on what works. Linux works. And well. And I can do things with it I can't do with MS.
Linux proponents do themselves a huge disservice by posting "M$ sux" posts everywhere. The whole '[they] doth protest too much' thing comes to mind.
I choose Linux for Linux, not as a slap in the face to Mr. Gates.
I bet that even without burning anything you could cause enough confusion with just blinding and burning people to make everybody on the boat think that the sky is falling.
Excellent point. Panic and/or fear of fire can be just as effective at times as the fire itself. Sir Francis Drake's success when dealing with the Spanish Armada is a great example.
Of these phones that are trying to be PDA or biometrics or video cameras. What I'd rather have is a phone that's just trying to be a phone
I mean I honestly don't care if my phone recognizes my gate or face or anything else. And if I lend my phone to someone, I want them to be able to use it. If they steal my phone, well it was probably my own dumb fault anyhow and I'll talk to my carrier.
I wish they'd just focus on making better phones that has better audio quality and cut out less. The phone I have today (1 yr old give or take) is still nowhere near as good as it should be in a major urban setting. Surely the processor cycles being dedicated to all these cool new features could be used for some additional signal processing?
I'm not saying this is wrong--- thousands of websites do this same thing. The data is only useful in aggregate anyways-- there aren't many business reasons to look at an individual's browsing habits. There are valid business reasons to look at a GROUP of browsing habits.
If your business is insurance, it makes all kinds of business sense to identify individuals who look up high risk symptoms, for example.
Notice all the "we"'s in the replys. People feel like they own or are a part of Slashdot. You can't buy that kind of loyalty and letting stakeholders play a role (or think they're playing a role at least) in determining the direction of the site is a small price to pay.
It may be a business, but they're the keepers of this community. If they lose their way and get all evil and shit, Google will start their version and all us fan boys will run over there instead to bad mouth MS and warn everybody about the latest Firefox hole.
Yeah, I think that's a good call. The intent of my post was to dispute that culture was the main driving force with respect to:
warning[s] of the continued loss of America's competitive edge with regards to science in the global community
but since then this thread has been more focused out the high school problem educational thing. In that context, the IP and even security comments make far less sense.
Yeah -- until the the oil is all gone, the ice is all gone, and a whole bunch of new oil deposits get formed in the lowlands. I wonder who the users of those deposits will be.
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Unfortunately I was unable to view the video at work, however it's worth noting for those that may not realize it that even a Canadian 'market' with no growth at all is probably almost 10% larger this year than last, when valued in U.S. dollars, by virtue of the change in exchange rates.
A simple way to fund this would be to sell the scanned plates as scientific history artifacts/souvenirs. I bet you could not only sell them to universities worldwide but also to cosmologists, scientists and astronomy fans in general.
I mean heck, $10 a plate for 500K plates gets us to $5M. I'd pay that without even knowing what I was getting. Up it to $25, $50 or $100 and I'm probably still interested.
Well, they could work on a cost-recovery basis at first, and prioritize 'client' files on demand, adding them to the master DB as they go. If two or more universities want the same palte or same series of plates, they can form an alliance to split the cost. That way, high demand or high interest plates are scanned first, and losses are minimized. That's not unlike what they've done for GIS datasets in many places for instance, and governments are often the largest single client so far as I know.
I think they were certainly trying to sell to consumers, but also to shareholders and especially distributors/vendors.
Who else would care that the biggest 'holiday' (and here I thought the war on Xmas was dead) ever was generated by the three franchises for which Xbox360 has exclusive rights.
The message? If you're going to carry/hype/stock any console and games, make sure it's this one.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
Actually, it doesn't seem to be the 'average city' it looks like it's the 'average city' in a group of 72 major cities. Which could, in turn, mean many things. But I haven't read the 2002 paper so it's hard to pin this down.
Isn't this a pretty good example of the RIAA or at least the ERA operating as a defacto monopoly in the music business, and using unfair business practices to dissuade /retaliate against fee market competition.
This is the stuff of anti-trust lawsuits, and if De Beers is not allowed to operate inside the U.S., maybe these people should also be sanctioned.
GW Bush was, ironically enough, elected (the first time) on an isolationist platform. You can ignore the world, but that doesn't mean it will ignore you.
While Wiki does have flaws, what it gets right far outstrips what it gets wrong.
Which is arguably the most dangerous aspect of it. If it was blatantly false, it would not be used by so many as an authoritative source. Not everyone takes everything they read their as true, but too many do.
Imagine the call to war in Iraq 10years after wikipedia, with a consistent set of 'facts' about Iraq added. Colin Powell would never have needed to give his little UN speech.
You'd think in Germany they might be especially wary of 'consensus' history projects, especially within a political context. And about privacy laws too, for that matter (cf. the Google/Gmail story from Saturday).
Then again, maybe not...
Before everybody gets all worried about employee privacy (which I agree is a legitimate concern), consider the applications this would have for first responders, particularly in cases where more traditional networks and or critical infrastructure components may fail.
Until a specific application is discussed, dismissing the technology as invasive seems premature.
The implication, I think, was that video game players ("digital natives") are more comfortable with technology than librarians ("digital immigrants").
My point (and yours, I believe) is that this misrepresents the situation, since they need to worry about both designing the system and making it usable. And when a library's organizational system crashes, it crashes hard -- there's no quick reset button.
Are video game designers digital immigrants too?
A digital native would never read an instruction manual with a new game before simply trying the game out, Gee said.
Right. And a library organized by the seat of your pants isn't going to be as useful to natives of either the digital or real world. The reason campus libraries are so useful (and used) is precisely because they have an underlying consistent structure that can handle large collections (one is a requirement of the other). Librarians should certainly be taking cues from any user interface and database systems they can get, including trendy OSs and iWhatever. In my experience many do. And we should all play more too.
This is an interesting notion. Voluntarily shutting down blogs, podcast sites and others can maybe help bring some attention to the general public about how seriously worried content creators are about this.
This is actually a very old idea. American Scientist's May-June issue had a interesting piece on a liquid (mercury) telescope, and focused on some of the engineering challenges a team in Birtish Columbia tried to address. There is no rigid coupling - air cushions and a ring of permanent magnets serve to support and drive the mirror. (via a rotating magnetic field, produced by three stationary field windings). The other major issue was speed variations from the air currents and interfaces -- they ended up using a mylar film for one problem and a precise (2500 pulses/360 degrees) dynamic correction of rotational velocity. A 4 meter and 8 meter instruments are being built in Chile. The big advantage of building on the moon is gravity. There first numbers seem to indicate a diameter of about 100 meters could be possible with these ionic liquids (mercury would freeze). (Lack of) atmosphere problems could be addressed by using superconductors as a supporting base.
This seems to be the latest form of internet integration to the "offline" world. The next move will be to charge advertisers on a pay-per-call basis, as MIVA and AOL and others are already doing.
Really, it's an ideal way for more traditional 'walk-in' businesses to make online advertising pay without the need for a huge ecommerce site. It's a natural fit with things like florists, restaurants, and other small businesses -- and will work particularly well on portals like Google Local.
It also a move that anticipates most people will soon have VOIP ready to go on their PCs so you click and bang you're talking without the need for a BBS-style callback which is still quite crude. Maybe the Google toolbar will soon include something for this?
Why don't we just remove the oxygen and make diamonds or at least coal out of the CO2? Oh wait I see that's ridiculous -- the energy cost to do that would be too great.
Never mind the NIMBY BANANA exploding subsurface stuff.
If your University had graduate students, it most likely has Linux computers. ;)
Surprisingly, anti-Microsoft sentiment had less to do with the choice than one might imagine. Linux stands on its own merits. Anti-Microsoft sentiment comes from Microsoft's paranoia, which results in quotes like the one that had Bill Gates saying he'd put Linux in the Computer museum like he has other competitors.
I don't find this surprising at all. You don't run a business on emotion -- you run it on what works. Linux works. And well. And I can do things with it I can't do with MS.
Linux proponents do themselves a huge disservice by posting "M$ sux" posts everywhere. The whole '[they] doth protest too much' thing comes to mind.
I choose Linux for Linux, not as a slap in the face to Mr. Gates.
I bet that even without burning anything you could cause enough confusion with just blinding and burning people to make everybody on the boat think that the sky is falling.
Excellent point. Panic and/or fear of fire can be just as effective at times as the fire itself. Sir Francis Drake's success when dealing with the Spanish Armada is a great example.
Of these phones that are trying to be PDA or biometrics or video cameras. What I'd rather have is a phone that's just trying to be a phone
I mean I honestly don't care if my phone recognizes my gate or face or anything else. And if I lend my phone to someone, I want them to be able to use it. If they steal my phone, well it was probably my own dumb fault anyhow and I'll talk to my carrier.
I wish they'd just focus on making better phones that has better audio quality and cut out less. The phone I have today (1 yr old give or take) is still nowhere near as good as it should be in a major urban setting. Surely the processor cycles being dedicated to all these cool new features could be used for some additional signal processing?
I'm not saying this is wrong--- thousands of websites do this same thing. The data is only useful in aggregate anyways-- there aren't many business reasons to look at an individual's browsing habits. There are valid business reasons to look at a GROUP of browsing habits.
If your business is insurance, it makes all kinds of business sense to identify individuals who look up high risk symptoms, for example.
Notice all the "we"'s in the replys. People feel like they own or are a part of Slashdot. You can't buy that kind of loyalty and letting stakeholders play a role (or think they're playing a role at least) in determining the direction of the site is a small price to pay.
It may be a business, but they're the keepers of this community. If they lose their way and get all evil and shit, Google will start their version and all us fan boys will run over there instead to bad mouth MS and warn everybody about the latest Firefox hole.
Yeah, I think that's a good call. The intent of my post was to dispute that culture was the main driving force with respect to:
warning[s] of the continued loss of America's competitive edge with regards to science in the global community
but since then this thread has been more focused out the high school problem educational thing. In that context, the IP and even security comments make far less sense.
Yeah -- until the the oil is all gone, the ice is all gone, and a whole bunch of new oil deposits get formed in the lowlands. I wonder who the users of those deposits will be.
And the circle of life continues.