A lot of other security/AV companies get definitions out MUCH faster than Symantec. I remember occasionally using Sophos's and other AV sites to solve virus issues becuase we didn't have the info.
I used to work for Symantec's tech support (used to--now Mike in India handles it) and the official line that we gave customers when they get a virus that Norton didn't detect was "Wait for the new definition file...it comes out next Wednesday." And when Norton wouldn't get rid of a virus, the line was "Norton Antivirus is a detection tool, not a removal tool." Which is total BS. If you read their website, the advertising for Norton AntiVirus says "Removes Viruses". That always troubled me, and I'm actually glad to be working elsewhere now.
I personally run Grisoft's AVG for free, and Zone Alarm, and not only have I never had a virus/worm, they run a zillion times faster than Norton AntiVirus and Personal Firewall.
Symantec makes bloatware that doesn't work well. Avoid it like the plague.
I wouldn't call that a downside. If you want addons, you have to go get them yourself. Why bloat the DL size with all the addons, when what the have packaged right now is small works for 90% of users?
The point wasn't about porn, it was about Slashdot.
And thanks for the tip about the URL. Kinda was wondering why my posts were getting modded down for no reason...seems to be heavy anti-religious bias on Slashdot I should have taken into account.
And yes, I am a christian, but I don't particularly care what anyone else does. I have my opinions about the way things should be, just as anyone else...but I'm not going to force myself on anyone.
A lone trucker stops at a rest-stop for a few hours. He pulls out his laptop (an unlikely thing it seems for a trucker to have) and logs onto Texas Wifi. He tries to check some titty, but the damn filters block it. Frustrated, he checks his email. He notices an email about login information for some website called Slashdot. Must be his son's. Out of boredom due to lack of porn, he click the link to Slashdot just for kicks. It isn't blocked. Suddenly his screen is full of grey and dark green with a white background. He sees new, strange words...Linux, Oracle, IT, BSD...iPod?... His mind is blown by the influx of information. He is no longer the ignorant truck driving hick that he was. He is reborn. He quickly becomes a Slashdotter...addicted. He finds himself compelled to check the site every 13 seconds in attempts to get the elusive first post. He finds himself making jokes about Soviet Russia, overlords, and beowulf clusters. He developes an interest in computers and the internet. He goes to college and gets a degree in computer science. He quits his trucking job and becomes a system admin. He goes from $25k per year to $65k. He buys a new car. He takes the wife on a vacation. He loses weight. The kids can go to college.
And all because Texas blocked porn and not Slashdot.
Do you realize that this is only at REST STOPS? You will be able to access whatever you want to access from home still. The websites will still be there on the internet waiting for you. If it ever comes to the point where they are blocking this stuff from your home connection, then it will become a Constitutional issue.
"The ONLY thing they can't do is build a system with taxpayer dollars and then limit access to speech (for adults) based on the content of the speech."
Only they aren't building a system. They're providing access to a system--the internet. And it's not limiting anyone's free speech. hotnudechicks.com will still have it's website up on the internet. You just can't see it from a rest stop. They are filtering content that a good portion of the public finds objectionable. Look at it at home if you really want to see it.
If they filtered it from your home internet connection, then it would be censorship and blocking freedom of speech.
Aren't they already? The FCC monitors radio for decency, and CB falls under radio. It's not enforced on CB, I'd imagine, because someone on a CB is hard to locate.
"And moderator, how can you moderate the parent post as insightful ? the guy has only been charged, not yet judged ! Is innocent until proven guilty only empty words in the US ??"
How do stupid people get such jobs? I mean, the guy sells NASA stuff, then keeps signing papers that say he still has them. Didn't he wonder if someday NASA might want their stuff back, and when they found out it was gone, who they would look to first?
The Bush administration have steadily been screwing over the educational system due to lack of federal funding, restrictive rules.
Our education system has been screwed over by a mindset in this country that says don't do anything that might make someone feel bad. If a kid is slow at math, it's not because they're slow...the math program must be too difficult! Dumb it down! The SAT scores are low...it's not because the people taking it don't know anything..it must be too difficult. Dumb it down! We tell our kids, "If you think it's too hard, we'll make it easy as crapping your pants honey!" It does our education system no damn good, and we should be pushing our students HARD to do well in school. Make them learn. 99% of the time, all of the "challenged" kids in schools are just too damn lazy to do the work, and thus don't learn. But people in the country are too eager to "help" these kids out and boost their self esteems by sacrificing everyone else's education.
Do you think the Chinese and Indians care if a kid can't keep up with the classword? No, they don't. We shouldn't be holding all of our students back just because there are some who just don't get the material.
We have enough funds. All the money in the world won't help out education system if we keep doing things the way we are. We need to start teaching and stop coddling.
People that are using Mac OSX just possibly, maybe, prefer it to Windows or Linux, and dont give a SHIT how free the software is. They use their computers to do things, and they will pay for whatever gets the things they want done faster, easier, and simpler.
As a tech support agent for a product aimed at business users, I can attest to the fact that to people who need their computers to do a certain function, price is nothing. The software my company sells is 300 bucks per license. And there are large companies with 500+ employees that all have licenses w/multiple machines. Plus support contracts for $500. The cost doesn't matter to them as long as it does what they need.
That doesn't change the fact that people who are downloading and distibuting are still stealing/violating copyright or whatever you want to say. I think they should be sued, and if the RIAA or whoever wants to take on the cause for the artists, then so be it. And seeing as how their lawsuits are producing results, they must not be as "frivolous" as you say.
I don't know about that. I had to open up some ports on my firewall before I could use a few p2p apps on my machine. Torrents in particular suffer because of blocked ports.
there will be those who will say it isn't stealing, it's copyright infringement which isn't the same as theft
Yeah. I reason it like this. What is a copyright? Well, break the words apart. Copy Right. The right to copy. If you make a copy without having that right, then you are STEALING that right from someone else. So it's STEALING!
Slashdot Mirror
A lot of other security/AV companies get definitions out MUCH faster than Symantec. I remember occasionally using Sophos's and other AV sites to solve virus issues becuase we didn't have the info.
I used to work for Symantec's tech support (used to--now Mike in India handles it) and the official line that we gave customers when they get a virus that Norton didn't detect was "Wait for the new definition file...it comes out next Wednesday." And when Norton wouldn't get rid of a virus, the line was "Norton Antivirus is a detection tool, not a removal tool." Which is total BS. If you read their website, the advertising for Norton AntiVirus says "Removes Viruses". That always troubled me, and I'm actually glad to be working elsewhere now.
I personally run Grisoft's AVG for free, and Zone Alarm, and not only have I never had a virus/worm, they run a zillion times faster than Norton AntiVirus and Personal Firewall.
Symantec makes bloatware that doesn't work well. Avoid it like the plague.
I wouldn't call that a downside. If you want addons, you have to go get them yourself. Why bloat the DL size with all the addons, when what the have packaged right now is small works for 90% of users?
The point wasn't about porn, it was about Slashdot.
And thanks for the tip about the URL. Kinda was wondering why my posts were getting modded down for no reason...seems to be heavy anti-religious bias on Slashdot I should have taken into account.
And yes, I am a christian, but I don't particularly care what anyone else does. I have my opinions about the way things should be, just as anyone else...but I'm not going to force myself on anyone.
A lone trucker stops at a rest-stop for a few hours. He pulls out his laptop (an unlikely thing it seems for a trucker to have) and logs onto Texas Wifi. He tries to check some titty, but the damn filters block it. Frustrated, he checks his email. He notices an email about login information for some website called Slashdot. Must be his son's. Out of boredom due to lack of porn, he click the link to Slashdot just for kicks. It isn't blocked. Suddenly his screen is full of grey and dark green with a white background. He sees new, strange words...Linux, Oracle, IT, BSD...iPod?... His mind is blown by the influx of information. He is no longer the ignorant truck driving hick that he was. He is reborn. He quickly becomes a Slashdotter...addicted. He finds himself compelled to check the site every 13 seconds in attempts to get the elusive first post. He finds himself making jokes about Soviet Russia, overlords, and beowulf clusters. He developes an interest in computers and the internet. He goes to college and gets a degree in computer science. He quits his trucking job and becomes a system admin. He goes from $25k per year to $65k. He buys a new car. He takes the wife on a vacation. He loses weight. The kids can go to college.
And all because Texas blocked porn and not Slashdot.
Someone who gets it!!!!
I'd mod the parent up, but alas, I've posted and cannot use my last mod point.
You mean on top of paying for the Truck Stop/Municipal WiFi?
Yes. Until a larger section of voters decide that they would like access to porn at the cost of the all of the voters.
Do you realize that this is only at REST STOPS? You will be able to access whatever you want to access from home still. The websites will still be there on the internet waiting for you. If it ever comes to the point where they are blocking this stuff from your home connection, then it will become a Constitutional issue.
It blocks a lot of decent stuff that I actually need (sysadmin tools for example)
Dude, why are you using sysadmin tools at a rest stop?
"The ONLY thing they can't do is build a system with taxpayer dollars and then limit access to speech (for adults) based on the content of the speech."
Only they aren't building a system. They're providing access to a system--the internet. And it's not limiting anyone's free speech. hotnudechicks.com will still have it's website up on the internet. You just can't see it from a rest stop. They are filtering content that a good portion of the public finds objectionable. Look at it at home if you really want to see it.
If they filtered it from your home internet connection, then it would be censorship and blocking freedom of speech.
Aren't they already? The FCC monitors radio for decency, and CB falls under radio. It's not enforced on CB, I'd imagine, because someone on a CB is hard to locate.
I thought they would have figured something like "if a car speeds in the desert, and no one was there to see it, does it really matter?"
Boldy producing what no Canadian had produced before!
Did we expect that any large corporation would pass up the chance to make a buck?
Did anyone else read this as "Penetration Teasers"?
"And moderator, how can you moderate the parent post as insightful ? the guy has only been charged, not yet judged ! Is innocent until proven guilty only empty words in the US ??"
This isn't the US...This is Slashdot!
Well, if he's so great and smart, why did he decide that he needed to sell off loaned articled from NASA?
Sorry, he really is a moron. Sometimes moronity takes awhile before it becomes evident, such as in his case.
How do stupid people get such jobs? I mean, the guy sells NASA stuff, then keeps signing papers that say he still has them. Didn't he wonder if someday NASA might want their stuff back, and when they found out it was gone, who they would look to first?
The Bush administration have steadily been screwing over the educational system due to lack of federal funding, restrictive rules.
Our education system has been screwed over by a mindset in this country that says don't do anything that might make someone feel bad. If a kid is slow at math, it's not because they're slow...the math program must be too difficult! Dumb it down! The SAT scores are low...it's not because the people taking it don't know anything..it must be too difficult. Dumb it down! We tell our kids, "If you think it's too hard, we'll make it easy as crapping your pants honey!" It does our education system no damn good, and we should be pushing our students HARD to do well in school. Make them learn. 99% of the time, all of the "challenged" kids in schools are just too damn lazy to do the work, and thus don't learn. But people in the country are too eager to "help" these kids out and boost their self esteems by sacrificing everyone else's education.
Do you think the Chinese and Indians care if a kid can't keep up with the classword? No, they don't. We shouldn't be holding all of our students back just because there are some who just don't get the material.
We have enough funds. All the money in the world won't help out education system if we keep doing things the way we are. We need to start teaching and stop coddling.
People that are using Mac OSX just possibly, maybe, prefer it to Windows or Linux, and dont give a SHIT how free the software is. They use their computers to do things, and they will pay for whatever gets the things they want done faster, easier, and simpler. As a tech support agent for a product aimed at business users, I can attest to the fact that to people who need their computers to do a certain function, price is nothing. The software my company sells is 300 bucks per license. And there are large companies with 500+ employees that all have licenses w/multiple machines. Plus support contracts for $500. The cost doesn't matter to them as long as it does what they need.
But Bush is evil! It doesn't matter if what he does actually happens to be good! It's still bad!
You can do whatever you want with teh cd, you just can't make copies and give them away, or sell them.
That doesn't change the fact that people who are downloading and distibuting are still stealing/violating copyright or whatever you want to say. I think they should be sued, and if the RIAA or whoever wants to take on the cause for the artists, then so be it. And seeing as how their lawsuits are producing results, they must not be as "frivolous" as you say.
I don't know about that. I had to open up some ports on my firewall before I could use a few p2p apps on my machine. Torrents in particular suffer because of blocked ports.
there will be those who will say it isn't stealing, it's copyright infringement which isn't the same as theft
Yeah. I reason it like this. What is a copyright? Well, break the words apart. Copy Right. The right to copy. If you make a copy without having that right, then you are STEALING that right from someone else. So it's STEALING!