The updates are cumulative, nothing else. SP4 does not download and install SP3, however it may download and install some updates that were part of SP3.
Someone wants a widget player. They search for "widget player" and 20 results come up. Click to download first one in list, it downloads, and the install window pops up: "To use this software, please download JRE 1.4.1 from java.sun.com." User clicks cancel, and starts downloading second one in list.
Yeah Java is nice language. I do like it. However, a lot of what people claim as benefits of the Java platform simply don't exist. That said, I hope it sticks around for a long time. And I think GCJ will go a long way towards making that happen.
But then it's lost it's "write once, run anywhere" capability. If your installer is compiled for a certain platform, then you might as well compile the app specifically for that platform.
Yeah JAR files are especially cool when someone comes along and decompiles your app (don't bother mentioning obfuscation, it doesn't work).
I'm sure such a thing exists already. But we were discussing his comment that he could just give them a JAR file. Obviously that's just not feasible for the average user.
Yes you can. But many people don't know if they have one already, or how all the various versions work out. Also, a lot of applications just install it without prompting. I was trying some new applications in Windows a while back, and I had something like 5 JREs installed because they each had to have their own (well, they didn't, I removed them, but they thought they did and didn't ask).
That's wonderful. Now walk down the street and ask ten random people what a JRE is. Or why they need one to install a certain application. I'd be surprised if you even found one person in that random sample that knew what it is.
Most people won't care, when you send them to download that JRE for your application, they'll probably just go and download a native application instead and be done with it.
Wages -- although not apparently very relevant here -- are really hard to garnish however. Just FYI.
As someone who has been on the losing end of a lawsuit, I can testify that this statement is very true. About the only garnishments you can't avoid are those done by the government from funds owed to you by the government. Otherwise there are any number of techniques one can employ to avoid garnishments. Sorry, I won't list them here, I'm too lazy.
By making someone publish a response, you're making that person read that response. And you're making that person subsidize the other person's speach. In fact, you're making that someone be in contact with the other person.
The suggestion is total bullshit. I can't believe anyone would even attempt to defend it.
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It's entirely possible this mother was making up the illness to get attention. This is a not-too-uncommon mental disorder.
There is no such thing as a Native American. We all migrated here at one time or another. Or do you thing the Indians just magically appeared here one day?
I don't think it's xenophobic, it's an attempt to avoid this mass immigration that other countries are facing. Let's face it, at the rates some of these undeveloped countries spit out kids, a lot of us are going to be in the minority real soon. And there isn't enough resources to go around. I think immigration should be allowed only in extreme cases, and where one can prove that they will benefit the society that they wish to join.
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Oh come on! We're talking about a web browser here, not your respirator.
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Yes sir!
Why are some of you such dorks? Didn't those beatings in high school teach you anything?!
Linux, you hippie.
The updates are cumulative, nothing else. SP4 does not download and install SP3, however it may download and install some updates that were part of SP3.
Someone wants a widget player. They search for "widget player" and 20 results come up. Click to download first one in list, it downloads, and the install window pops up: "To use this software, please download JRE 1.4.1 from java.sun.com." User clicks cancel, and starts downloading second one in list.
I do not have a criminal mind.
I prefer to think of it as a disagreement on what is right and wrong.
Yeah Java is nice language. I do like it. However, a lot of what people claim as benefits of the Java platform simply don't exist. That said, I hope it sticks around for a long time. And I think GCJ will go a long way towards making that happen.
It says JSP right on the error page.
But then it's lost it's "write once, run anywhere" capability. If your installer is compiled for a certain platform, then you might as well compile the app specifically for that platform.
Yeah JAR files are especially cool when someone comes along and decompiles your app (don't bother mentioning obfuscation, it doesn't work).
I'm sure such a thing exists already. But we were discussing his comment that he could just give them a JAR file. Obviously that's just not feasible for the average user.
Think download.com.
1. Yes, fuck off.
2. Possibly. Still not a ringing endorsement. (Saying PHP is equally shitty doesn't justify JSP being shitty.)
3. Programmers don't live in a vacuum.
4. It is when I'm saying I think it's shitty. I didn't say it is shitty. It may very well be great.
Put those razor blades to use on your arms.
Yes you can. But many people don't know if they have one already, or how all the various versions work out. Also, a lot of applications just install it without prompting. I was trying some new applications in Windows a while back, and I had something like 5 JREs installed because they each had to have their own (well, they didn't, I removed them, but they thought they did and didn't ask).
That's wonderful. Now walk down the street and ask ten random people what a JRE is. Or why they need one to install a certain application. I'd be surprised if you even found one person in that random sample that knew what it is.
Most people won't care, when you send them to download that JRE for your application, they'll probably just go and download a native application instead and be done with it.
Odds are not.
Swing includes the "Native" look and feel, which does, in fact, look and feel Native
Bullshit. Any novice Windows user can easily pick out Java Swing apps in "native look and feel". They look similar, but not the same.
tell your users to install the JRE version x.x from www.java.com
You're joking, right? Please tell me your joking.
I would say around 90% of the errors I encounter on websites are JSP errors. Maybe 9% are VBscript? errors. Less than 1% are PHP errors.
Wages -- although not apparently very relevant here -- are really hard to garnish however. Just FYI.
As someone who has been on the losing end of a lawsuit, I can testify that this statement is very true. About the only garnishments you can't avoid are those done by the government from funds owed to you by the government. Otherwise there are any number of techniques one can employ to avoid garnishments. Sorry, I won't list them here, I'm too lazy.
Usually cruise controls don't keep the same speed, especially on hills. I, however, do keep the same speed on hills.
So in that case, I would be the guy in the other car getting pissed off.
By making someone publish a response, you're making that person read that response. And you're making that person subsidize the other person's speach. In fact, you're making that someone be in contact with the other person.
The suggestion is total bullshit. I can't believe anyone would even attempt to defend it.
It's entirely possible this mother was making up the illness to get attention. This is a not-too-uncommon mental disorder.
I was under the impression they were talking about free speech and not freedom of the press.
There is no such thing as a Native American. We all migrated here at one time or another. Or do you thing the Indians just magically appeared here one day?
I'm tired of that argument. I suppose that he doesn't try to speak Dutch.
If you're going to use a language to communicate, you should do it correctly. Otherwise you're not expressing what you mean to.
Anyways, I know what you meant, and he was just being a jackass.
I don't think it's xenophobic, it's an attempt to avoid this mass immigration that other countries are facing. Let's face it, at the rates some of these undeveloped countries spit out kids, a lot of us are going to be in the minority real soon. And there isn't enough resources to go around. I think immigration should be allowed only in extreme cases, and where one can prove that they will benefit the society that they wish to join.
My browser written at NCSA? Excuse me for not saying "invented and implemented".