So that when the finally realize they have been poisoned it will be too late to do anything about it. Not ethical and impractical. Just how many requests does it take before you start poisoning? 1000 per hour? We get that many hits from AOL and they come in through a gateway. If we were poisoning legitimate users data, that would be unacceptible.
Why don't you go the ebay way and provide an API into your web site, then change the format slightly every month so breaking the web crawlers? After all, you may as well make money out of the data miners. We have *extensive* APIs into most of our systems. We're trying to get the bots to use and license the APIs. I have been talking with some of the developers to try to put some unicode inside (human readable but bot breaking).. They may be looking into this. We don't make any money off the data miners.
I'm currently working on a project like this as we speak. My company's website is getting nailed from a handful of IP addresses that do nothing but datamining. We've come to the conclusion that captchas would penalize joe user and we're going to move forward with some applications that throttle requests by IP. We don't keep private information outside of account specific data...
My company is looking at it in a different way tho - We've figured out what click sequences are used and we're going to address the business need that these few bots have identified. If these 3rd party bots are selling atomic or aggregate data, well, why not cut them off at the source and sell the data for less?
The company failed in 2 areas - 1) keeping sensitive inside information from their outward facing internet site and 2) They should have rescinded the ID. I'm not sure about making their data available to the competition, but thats an inevitibility that they need to account for. -B
To anyone that has Excel '97 -
On a new Worksheet, Press F5. Type X97:L97 and hit enter. Press the tab key. Hold Ctrl-Shift. Click on the Chart Wizard toolbar button. Use mouse to fly around - Right button forward/ Left button reverse.
Excel 2000?
Under file menu, do 'Save as Web Page'. Say 'Publish Sheet' and 'Add Interactivity'. Save to some htm page on your drive. Load the htm page with IE (don't give me any grief over this one- you're already screwing around with Excel so I don't want to hear it). You should have Excel in the middle of the page. Scroll to row 2000, column WC. Select row 2000, and tab so that WC is the active column. Hold down Shift+Crtl+Alt nad click the Office logo in the upper-left. If you have DirectX, you will be playing what looks like spy hunter. Use the arrow keys to drive, space to fire, O to drop oil slicks, and when it gets dark, use H for your headlights.
-B
Can't lock in the media player, you can't lock in Hollywood's request for DRM. Allowing old file formats and old applications to run unsecured media is the freedom loophole. I'm sure that Microsoft will respond to this by only allowing DRM enabled apps in; it gives MicroSoft a chance to review incoming technology and throttle it's adoption. Of course the DOJ will ensure that each new Longhorn enabled app recieves a fair and timely approval process. Nice.... -B
1) Extract Windows product keys 2) ???^H^H^H Email software keys to software@bsa.net and tell them that you think your employer is not running legitimate software. Include a paypal link for the reward 3) Profit
Sometimes I feel that eventually MS and IBM will come to legal blows (more than likely due to SCO being a puppet of MS) - Do you think that this will eventually happen, and if so, who do you feel will win based on a) legal prowess and b) technology patents. Also, what's your take on the SCO brouhaha?
Heh.. the article is titled "DARPA Takes aim at IT Sacred Cows"... Love it. They rewriting the stack so that India can't connect? Is this the answer to outsourcing?
Don't forget SpikeTV's Most Extreme Elimination Challenge!!! Real life video games + Funny japanese dubbing = best of both worlds! Those guys talk some serious smack...
Following up a little further upstream (he probably was Michael during the emerging professional years) - and found this on google cache "Current CEO Michael Anderer and a former partner founded The Computer Group in 1985 "... now a wholly owned subsid of IKON.. Kinda curious who that former (maybe current..) partner was...
If the potential candidate didn't RTFA and got flamed for it, it's a possible indicator that the candidate will forge forward (with their own preconceived notions) without doing research on the job and maybe finding a better solution...
It's funny.. This is the second letter threatening legal action that I've seen this week, and out of curiosity, I always look at the file name. *.wpd each time! Why don't lawyers use microsoft products? Is this some kind of ambulance chaser professional courtesy?
From the article - "The current device uses car window tinting film for the membrane and a reservoir of baby oil for applying the correct pressure."
Looks like you're going to have to switch lubricants too... -B
Brown's lack of plot push
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· Score: 4, Interesting
In the DaVinci code, Brown resolves his puzzles/riddles within 2 pages. It drove me nuts to have all of my boggles nicely wrapped up in a nice tidy bow within 30 seconds. Sometimes I can't stand authors who pander to those without an attention span or to those who only pick up the book and read only two pages at a time.
Look, If you want to bring up evolution on slashdot, make sure you bring it up in comparison to kmail, mutt, pine, etc, just so you can start two jihads at once;) Thanks! -B
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You do have a firewall, right? Absolutely
So that when the finally realize they have been poisoned it will be too late to do anything about it.
Not ethical and impractical. Just how many requests does it take before you start poisoning? 1000 per hour? We get that many hits from AOL and they come in through a gateway. If we were poisoning legitimate users data, that would be unacceptible.
Why don't you go the ebay way and provide an API into your web site, then change the format slightly every month so breaking the web crawlers? After all, you may as well make money out of the data miners. We have *extensive* APIs into most of our systems. We're trying to get the bots to use and license the APIs. I have been talking with some of the developers to try to put some unicode inside (human readable but bot breaking).. They may be looking into this. We don't make any money off the data miners.
I'm currently working on a project like this as we speak. My company's website is getting nailed from a handful of IP addresses that do nothing but datamining. We've come to the conclusion that captchas would penalize joe user and we're going to move forward with some applications that throttle requests by IP. We don't keep private information outside of account specific data...
My company is looking at it in a different way tho - We've figured out what click sequences are used and we're going to address the business need that these few bots have identified. If these 3rd party bots are selling atomic or aggregate data, well, why not cut them off at the source and sell the data for less?
The company failed in 2 areas - 1) keeping sensitive inside information from their outward facing internet site and 2) They should have rescinded the ID. I'm not sure about making their data available to the competition, but thats an inevitibility that they need to account for.
-B
Perhaps if we built a large wooden badger??
To anyone that has Excel '97 - On a new Worksheet, Press F5. Type X97:L97 and hit enter. Press the tab key. Hold Ctrl-Shift. Click on the Chart Wizard toolbar button. Use mouse to fly around - Right button forward/ Left button reverse.
Excel 2000? Under file menu, do 'Save as Web Page'. Say 'Publish Sheet' and 'Add Interactivity'. Save to some htm page on your drive. Load the htm page with IE (don't give me any grief over this one- you're already screwing around with Excel so I don't want to hear it ). You should have Excel in the middle of the page. Scroll to row 2000, column WC. Select row 2000, and tab so that WC is the active column. Hold down Shift+Crtl+Alt nad click the Office logo in the upper-left. If you have DirectX, you will be playing what looks like spy hunter. Use the arrow keys to drive, space to fire, O to drop oil slicks, and when it gets dark, use H for your headlights. -B
Speaking of Long John Silver's... HEY FREE SHRIMP!
Nah, the reporter used standard dollars instead of metric ... oh wait.......
Can't lock in the media player, you can't lock in Hollywood's request for DRM. Allowing old file formats and old applications to run unsecured media is the freedom loophole. I'm sure that Microsoft will respond to this by only allowing DRM enabled apps in; it gives MicroSoft a chance to review incoming technology and throttle it's adoption. Of course the DOJ will ensure that each new Longhorn enabled app recieves a fair and timely approval process. Nice....
-B
Yeaah... This technology was featured in PootieTang! Pootie don't need no words. Don't even need no music!
1) Extract Windows product keys
2) ???^H^H^H Email software keys to software@bsa.net and tell them that you think your employer is not running legitimate software. Include a paypal link for the reward
3) Profit
This bot looks NASTY.
-B
Sometimes I feel that eventually MS and IBM will come to legal blows (more than likely due to SCO being a puppet of MS) - Do you think that this will eventually happen, and if so, who do you feel will win based on a) legal prowess and b) technology patents.
Also, what's your take on the SCO brouhaha?
Heh.. the article is titled "DARPA Takes aim at IT Sacred Cows"... Love it. They rewriting the stack so that India can't connect? Is this the answer to outsourcing?
This is slashdot. Windows is a bad thing here
Okay smartypants. I've mirrored your entire webserver. Cmon! Slash me!!!
BINGO!
Don't forget SpikeTV's Most Extreme Elimination Challenge!!! Real life video games + Funny japanese dubbing = best of both worlds! Those guys talk some serious smack...
I can't get to the webpage from work, but my ICQ "homepage" is linked to Fugly's rand-o-fugly page. Fun link that is ;)
-B
Following up a little further upstream (he probably was Michael during the emerging professional years) - and found this on google cache "Current CEO Michael Anderer and a former partner founded The Computer Group in 1985 "... now a wholly owned subsid of IKON..
Kinda curious who that former (maybe current..) partner was...
If the potential candidate didn't RTFA and got flamed for it, it's a possible indicator that the candidate will forge forward (with their own preconceived notions) without doing research on the job and maybe finding a better solution...
But then again WTFDIK, I didn't RTFA....
-B
It doesn't need hands! Robots eat old people's medicine! Better get your Robot Insurance from Old Glory....
At least their fansite has pictures that are in legal compliance with the companies intents!
It's funny.. This is the second letter threatening legal action that I've seen this week, and out of curiosity, I always look at the file name. *.wpd each time! Why don't lawyers use microsoft products? Is this some kind of ambulance chaser professional courtesy?
Just saw Pinhead... Nah that's obviously Annakin after being burned and in the need for his respirator.... -B
From the article - "The current device uses car window tinting film for the membrane and a reservoir of baby oil for applying the correct pressure."
Looks like you're going to have to switch lubricants too...
-B
In the DaVinci code, Brown resolves his puzzles/riddles within 2 pages. It drove me nuts to have all of my boggles nicely wrapped up in a nice tidy bow within 30 seconds. Sometimes I can't stand authors who pander to those without an attention span or to those who only pick up the book and read only two pages at a time.
Look, If you want to bring up evolution on slashdot, make sure you bring it up in comparison to kmail, mutt, pine, etc, just so you can start two jihads at once ;)
Thanks!
-B