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Star Wars Episode III Spoiler Photos
XSSIV writes "Amazing new spoiler filled imagery from next year's Star Wars: Episode III can be found at the
MovieWeb
Star Wars III Detail Page. Here is the
Gallery for Star Wars III Images" There are a couple of cool shots that cross into spoiler territory (although only if you don't know the Chewbacca is Luke's true biological mother).
Nobody's going to feel really bad about seeing those, as George Lucas has turned Star Wars into a franchise to hock his wares.
At least with the original three, that just happened naturally.
although only if you don't know the Chewbacca is Luke's true biological mother
Chebacca and Darth Vader... Nasty.
I saw nothing that came anywhere near spoiler material, nice imagery though.
Just because you disagree doesn't make it offtopic or flamebait.
Just took a look over there and I didn't see anything I'd call a spoiler. Some concept sketches and the like for various machines...maybe a baby AT-ST? A couple city-scapes... A picture of (I'm assuming) Annakin looking fairly unhealthy... Nothing terribly spoiling or surprising over there. Did I miss something?
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Is that Ewan McGreagor with all the "burn" makeup on? When the hell did Obi-Won get burned?
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Is it me, or did it just get fatter in here?
DAMNIT, First someone ruined Passion of The Christ for me, now this!
Just saw Pinhead... Nah that's obviously Annakin after being burned and in the need for his respirator.... -B
try again after having some Lucas Skywalker Ranch Wines. That should help a lot.
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what's with all the star wars hype? I mean sure, it was one of the first big budget science fantasy movie productions, but let's face it, it's really really bad, and the only reason you think it's good is because you've been spoon fed crappy movies all your lives.
why don't you go to the library and pick up some good sci-fi? I mean, possibly any sci-fi book is at least 34 times better than STAR WARS. pick up Night's Dawn, Hyperion, heck, even the Foundation series and read some books. pretty soon you'll begin to notice that STAR WARS is a really crappy third grade movie.
just my 2 dollars.
Seems if i try to view an image all i get is some damned pop-up ad.. How kind of them, more companies I can add to the list that I refuse to do business with.
But i agree with the others, i don't see any 'spoilers' here.
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I mean, possibly any sci-fi book is at least 34 times better than STAR WARS.
34? Damn, I had my money on 19.5
*going through a box of very rare film things*
Star Wars alternate ending, Luke's father is CHEWBACCA!? OOH! I'll give you $5 for it.
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Be like me: if you regard Ep.3 as a kind of CG coffee-table-book, you'll get more enjoyment out of it. Set expectations of plot to zero and you can't be disappointed, right?
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movieweb.com sysadmin (waves hand): you will not slashdot my webservers.
I have no interest in these pictures, but I went there anyway to make sure the slashdotting was complete.
You know, I've been a fan of star wars for a long time, mostly my whole life, but over the past year or two, it's started to wane.
I basically did what this guy says to do, albeit with different books, and more and more, I don't like Star Wars as much. In fact, I'm starting to really hate it.
On the other hand, I'm finding some really amazing books that keep me hooked, and I'm starting to even read non-scifi books, which is pretty suprising for me.
So, even though it looks like a blatant troll, it has real insight.
i think we just spoiled their server, unless its a site about "connection timed out"
In case the page is slashdotted I've put up the pictures on: http://fredrik.kalmar.lu.se. It's on a 10 mbit univeristy connection in Sweden. It should stay up for a while atleast.
Is it just me or does that bottom image mean the land shark gun will be making an appearance?
Most of the spoilers are in previous articles from the looks of things. Can't see many spoilers in their "huge new spoiler filled photos" though - media manipulation perfected.
He dies, then returns as Jesus the White.
although only if you don't know the Chewbacca is Luke's true biological mother
No. Luke, I am your mother.
No, that's not true. That's impossible! NO!!!!!
Search your feelings, Luke. You know it's true.
The real question is: will Gyslain make an appearance? C'est possible, non?
Esoteric reference.
The odds of this star wars movie being good are
3,720:1.... "oh my!"
The first three of the Foundation series are decent, but then it turns into a typical Asimovian wankfest.
Now, for a short time only! The Darth Vader, Luke's Father, crispy chicken meal!
There is no spoon or sig.
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I think the number you're looking for is 42.
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
although only if you don't know the Chewbacca is Luke's true biological mother
None of this makes any sense.
They have a different type of scout walker? That's a spoiler? Maybe they meant that they were going to put one of those giant wings on a scout walker, to match a folger's can exhaust pipe?
I saw nothing there that would give away a key plot point. Anakin looked like he had a rough time, but that's hardly a surprise for anyone who's even remotely paying attention.
Cool to see some photos to tie us over until the May after next.
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I still don't understand how there could be spoilers for movies which are prequels. There were three movies made over 20 years ago, which established a plot arc to which these new prequels must match up. This is not to say we don't know the ending. We know the ending vary well. The question is, will the middle of the star wars mythos do justice to the end? Will it honor the spirit of the ending with which we are so familiar or will the release of this movie, which defines the middle of the story arc, simply serve to cheapen the experience of those of us who so enjoyed the original three movies? Only time will tell. While we wait though, we can still enjoy the originals and simply hope beyond hope that George Lucas won't further damage the mythos and cheapen the great work he produced early in his career.
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If this kind of a link isn't taken down by slashdotters....
The power of the Slashdot Effect!
Wait a minute. I got it. You could play with your magic nose goblins.
I bet your were surprised when the boat hit the iceburg, too
Lets see it the University of Bergen can take the load of an /.
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Fencepost error. :)
Konq 3.2 here.
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...if the admin put up a nice message that said "These are not the images you are looking for." Much better than a connection refused.
That is what matinees are for.....
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is that this sorry series will be over, at least the George Lucas part of it. Here's hoping 7-9 will be given to someone with some real edge, like Stephen Spielberg (whose AI or Minority Report films shows how to do intelligent and thought provoking Sci-Fi), or Peter Jackson, who singlehandedly blew away the Star Wars franchise, by revealing the richness and origins of the Star Wars mythology with LOTR. Instead of working on the depth of the mythos, which is what the fans are after, Lucas instead overwhelms us with superficial details--pod racers, giant fighting robots, wookies, talking lizards. By the time the film comes out, why bother? You've already seen it before, only louder and bigger.
There is an episode 7? why was I not told about this? I bet it's called "The Ewoks Take Manhattan"
sing along everybody: "Someday we'll find out, the Jedi connection, Chewbacca, Han Solo and meeeeeee!!!!"
Spoilers? Whatever. I don't think anybody will actually want to see Episode III, after that horrible, horrible movie that was Ep II. Anakin's pityful acting abilities (or lack thereof) have scarred me for life. And that discussion about how he hates sand ARRGGHHH!!!
You know it!
The metaphors fly fast and thick, and probably without intention on the part of the creators. It is certainly a shame that Lucas has lost his creative balancing mechanism, --which I believe, consisted of several people who had both the ability to argue with him and the power to make those arguments stick. That's not the case anymore.
I wonder what moral is like over at the Ranch. . ? There are some really smart people working on these films. It must be frustrating to be tied into serving a broken machine.
Still, I am certainly looking forward to the next film. It'll be neat to see how it all plays out. You can map the rise and fall of the U.S. and the world on the parallels presented in the Star Wars prequals.
Has anybody ever tried a Phantom Edit of the second film? I might give it a shot; although, I have a sneaking suspicion that I'd only be left with about 50 minutes of footage after all the chops necessary in that monster of a mistake! I'd chop whole battles, like that idiot thing with Yoda and whoever the hell that guy was with the bent saber. What the heck was that scene even there for? Too bad it's not possible to change Anakin from a weenie girli-boy into an actual figure of threat and power.
Hmm. . . Maybe I'd only be left with 30 minutes. Still, it's amazing what can be done with a pair of scissors. The Phantom Edit of the first film was an amazing tribute to the power of good editing!
Perhaps if one were to combine the 'Attack of the Clones' with the upcoming film, there will be enough material to hybridize into a whole feature.
We'll see.
Wouldn't it be weird if the third one does suck at all?
Whoa. . !
-FL
Have I been in a coma for the last year? How are the images copyrighted next year? Somebody please explain!
If these are prequels, then why does everything look more technologically advanced compared to the original trilogy??? I'm so confused...
Have to agree with you, except on Night's Dawn: excellent first book, extremely disappointing concluding books and final conclusion. I mean is that the best he could come up with?
Bad analogies are like waxing a monkey with a rainbow.
This argument is flawed - you just can't compare books and films in that way. Sure they both tell a story, but the constraints, and media are just too different. I've read some sci-fi, well quite a lot to be honest and whilst I'd agree that the plot of Star Wars isn't amazingly twisted and probably doesn't work too well as a 1000 page book - it was perfect for it's medium: film.
:-/ )
Movies should evoke emotions and with the good old good vs evil, the legacy, the gimmick (the force)and the mentor/apprentice thing going on, it evoked the right emotions at the right points in the film. (Mind you I always felt Obi Wan could have put up a bit of a fight, even if he was getting on a bit
It's a film, not a book. I'm not saying books don't translate to the film - LOTR managed it really well, but the keyword there is "translate". Peter Jackson couldn't just film every little bit and include every bit of dialogue and have the audience still awake at the end of his 50 hour flick - he and the other script writers had to tranbslate it for the screen. The same would be tru of all Sci-Fi lit with involved plots. Imagine a film of Heinlein's "Number of The beast" - I couldn't remember what the hell that was about 2 weeks after I read it, but it made sense while I was reading it.
StarWars was a nice sized plot with a bit of intrigue and some great characters. It didn't have a big budget, and Lucas chnaged the story several times to fit with the cash he had. Up until then space had been "clean" with no mving parts. StarWars showed vehicles that looked like they actually had engines and nechanical parts in them - they looked like they would work on an engineering level. And there was dirt, for the first time in a SciFi flick, ships had dirt from being used - the habitats looked lived in. My own 2 penneth on the prequels is that they lack everyday charcters - everybodies a queen or a senator or a Jedi Kight, so they all talk in a formal way which makes the dialogue seem wooden. Where are the Han Solo type characters? It's like looking at life through the pages of a history book - tales of Kings and Queens always seem regal in the books, but between the glorious and famous events recorded in the chronicles of history, I bet there was a lot of nose picking, scratching of arses and general mundane nothingness. We don't see much "life" going on in the new SW movies. In the original movies, at least there were some farmers, the odd used ship dealer (implied) and some general working class dudes you could identify with. Ep V had possibly the best script, dialogue and character development of them all - largly due to the presence of Solo and the fliting with old bun chops.
I still like the new movies though, as long as I stick my "this is not really a kids movie - you are not sad for watching this age 34" filter on. I am looking forward to EPIII - I'll watch it for what it is - and then watch the original trlogy on DVD (hopefully)!
Apparently Lucas was married/on his way to divorce in the middle of Eps IV - VI and it was her input on the editorial and post in the film that helped make them good. Apparently Lucas wanted to suck at those too but at every step there was her persistent "Uh, dear.." that got him to change his mind. I've never read up enough bio on the man to validate this gossip but it would seem to fit. Lucas channeled by others producing greatness, Lucas left to own devices slinging steaming turds.
Although in all honesty I really didn't see a need for a spoiler alert. Since there really was no spoiler....
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accidental master piece all I can say about the first 3
Nights Dawn... mmm... now *that* is a great series. Gets my vote for 'best space opera ever'. I was a bit sceptic after the first book. Sure it was incredibly entertaining and massive in scope but I was affraid it was gonna turn into something about heaven/hell which it didnt, thank god...
:-)
The books gives me the 'shit.. did one guy create all this?' feeling.. a bit like George Martin.
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A group of fan thought it'd be fun to create a mini movie as a tribute to Star Wars. They had costumes, storyline, and software to create the light saver with sound effects. Well, Lucas & Co. didn't think it was such a good gesture. They decided to send a cease and decist letter to the fans and demanded damages. Go to the site below to know more about it. http://www.willfulinfringement.com/
You're absolutely correct. There was an interview somewhere with Doug Chiang, the art director of the prequel trilogy, where he mentioned that the reason much of the universe looks so much better and more advanced than in Episodes 4-6 has to do with the Clone Wars and rise of the Empire. Essentially, during Episodes 4-6, the universe is a military state where things are rigidly controlled and very utilitarian and militaristic... pus they are still rebuilding after the clone wars.
Seriously... The spoiler *I* wanted to see involved Natalie Portman.
but you're falling into the trap into thinking that starwars was indeed scifi.
it is in a futuristic setting, but that doesn't make it scifi. it's a fairytale.
that said, zahns sw books are pretty good(most other sw books i've sampled have been total crap though) and some of the games are pretty good and I did like the ep's 4-6, that had a little sense of balls and nostalgia(and mystery, like boba fett & etc). in a fairytale that's pretty good, plus I was 'into' the world of them from playing computer games.
for me the games came first and the movies second since I was too young when they first came(and xwing was pretty damn good game among others, tie fighters & etc).
but are they statement making hard scifi like some of the other stuff you mention? no sir, not even nearly.
and last: they're action movies with villains and heroes, with babes and with hunks. and even as such ep1 and 2 totally suck, they have so many unnecessary long scenes that have _nothing_ to do with the story but all are about 'cool' cgi.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
Spielberg didn't tack on the ending. Kubrick had it planned all along.
Kubrick wrote all three endings, and if you thought the last was candy-coated, brother, you weren't paying attention.
I'm bored - Episode I bored.
Sure, Star Wars was a simple, black-and-white tale. But that's what made it good!
I think many academics and current thinkers would agree that the Star Wars story has entered into our current mythology -- it's become one of our Deep Stories.
Of course, no sequels, prequels, whatever, could ever measure up to the original. It was the Brothers Grimm, it was Homer, it was Myth.
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If you had bothered to actually post links to whatever you are talking about, you might not have gotten modded down.
We really do need a (-1 Lazy) mod..
Both sides seem to be devoid of information when I went to visit them.
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The movie page seems to be a mockup with links going to news items. Hardly interesting.
The image gallery apparently broke:
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I think the gallay has been removed or disabled in some fashion. Must be the Sith at work again clouding things.
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All this (eps1-3) stuff, meaning the ships and tech and other sorts of things just seem far too madern for my taste. I mean all of this is supposed have happened prior to eps 4-6 so why does nearly everything seem to look more advanced? Bogus in my opinion, I would much rather have seen ships and gear that somewhat obviously predate the stuff of Star Wars.
Please, stop calling Star Wars "science fiction". It is not. It's futuristic fantasy at best (spare me the "a long time ago" crap. It's futuristic compared to present Earth).
Star Wars is fiction, and has nothing to do with science.
I think it was called "The Star Wars Holiday Special"
Though you're not too far off with that song.
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That's funny. Calling the poster a troll just shows ignorance.
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SW is a nice idea just apallingly badly done most of the time. The only reason we get so excited is that the sci-fi film genre is *so* badly served with horrible derivative works it makes SW seem ok.
kudos for Lucas for originally having the sage storyline and hiring some damn talented designers to put a unique feel on the films and superb effects for the time. And great music. But if he gets too far involved, it just sucks. Sorry George.
quick summary:
Ep4: poor directing, awful script, okish film
Ep5: good! somebody else writes and directs (take the hint please)
Ep6: Ok film, somebody else directs. bad dialogue is back thanks to georgey boy working on the screenplay again. story rear ended for commerical gain by adding the ewoks
Ep1: Atrocious. Hes back writing on his own and DIRECTING. Dammit george you were not very good to start with and its been 22 YEARS since you last directed anything. story again rammed in the chocolate starfish with the commericalisation of the pod racing scene (which takes up about 50% of the film it seems). pick a totally appaling actor for annakin. Take some of the best acting talent and turn them into cardboard with bloody awful directing and bad script. Hell I can't even remember what happens in this film apart from the pod race.
Ep2: A bit better, i.e. watchable. Script a bit better as hes working with somebody again for the screenplay. again choose an awful annakin. Whats now odd about this is that I can't think of a single point without music in the film. probably why the film seems better as the great music can actually make you feel the emotions that the script and directing cannot.
I don't know why he returned to the writing/directing roles, surely he realised that 5&6 were better than 3? Why couldn't he have turfed the directing/screenplay over to better people? He could have kept his repuation as a god, and become a benevolant god at that. What possessed him to do it?
To leave on a positive note, at least nothing else looks like star wars, it's too 'in your face' to copy. Unlike Alien which although a great film, every spacecraft interior now looks like it's out of Alien and unfortunately it seems a hell of a lot of stories just copy it as well...
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you'll begin to notice that STAR WARS is a really crappy third grade movie.
What fucking crack are the mods smoking to call this skanky troll "interesting"?? Can we get a meta-mod in aisle 7 please????
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Thanks, but I'll wait until it's on Free-to-air.
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Ep 2. Horrid. Not good. Tepid. Grueling. --The only true success, in that Lucas FINALLY achieved his goal; a return to the old serials, but with a big budget. Congratulations, George. You did it. Now can we please get back to the medium at hand?
Ep 4. Wonderful. This was the largest grossing film, (next to Gone With the Wind), for a reason. People went nuts over this film in 1977, and I among them. If you can't remember why, then you're probably watching some crappy version. Get the laser disk version, if you can. Believe me. Wide screen, original cut, no extra bullshit added, color and sound restored to original glory. The re-release put me to sleep. The laser disk version had me on the edge of my seat.
Ep 5. Yes Awesome in all respects. Yoda done right. No question.
Ep 6. Yes, weakest of the original three, but strangely enough, I thought the re-release was a big improvement. There were subtle edits to the Ewok battle which made it far more believeable. Though, the extended Jabba's Lair stuff blew.
That's my 5 cents, anyway.
-FL
Gotta link to this every time there's a story about episode 3:
http://users.eastlink.ca/~jaysilver/
How can it be spoilers? It's a freaking prequel!
Ep 4. Wonderful. This was the largest grossing film, (next to Gone With the Wind), for a reason
yeah the reason was there was *nothing* like it. Nice story but the directing and script are total pants. ok i could forgive than in 1978 when i was like 6, but not now. I can't watch it now as I cringe at all the really appaling lines in the film. In fact those were the bits that needed changing for the new editions, not the SFX!
no movie with crappy acting and bad dialogue is great, no matter how good the storyline or SFX. part of the point I was trying to make was that the reason so many people do idolise movies with crappy acting and dialogue is that there is a complete lack of anything better in this genre.
which is a real shame.
unfortunately though because this genre is popular and because there aren't really that many films made 'in space' if you like, we all fall upon them like slavering dogs and they make money.
not until we turn our nose up at these dogs dinners will things get any better.
but then again this is almost all the high budget film industry isn't it!
Um, Star Wars isn't Science Fiction.
It's science fantasy. If it were science fiction, it wouldn't blatantly ignore things like physics (sound and inertia in space, etc.).
What SW is (at least the original Trilogy) is a good space fantasy epic. Lucas never intended for it to be hard sci-fi, and nobody serious or intelligent would ever compare it to such.
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This is due to the fact the book was originally written by Philip K. Dick - one of the best SF authors ever... (if not, the best).
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Luke's father is CHEWBACCA!? OOH!
The Comic Book guy says that from the Simpsons ("Worst Epsiode Ever.")
Being old enought o remember seeing each of the original three movies in their debut on the big screen, I can being excited when Empire came out, the Return. I remember thinking it was everyting I wanted. han got the girl, Luke was the shit (not really but he was supposed to be, GO HAN) any way, The sory is going along pretty much as I read it about 12 years ago. All that remains is the final battle which from what I read then wa balls out! lucas did a story which all other scifi is and will measured. No matter what is said here you all be be there next year with tix. I no I will be. I just hope that George will do the right thing and finish the story. That or let someone else do it.
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You might have a slightly different opinon if you had see the original Star Wars movie ( IV ) in the movie theater when it first came out. For a movie theater experience, most people were impressed and thought it was at least something unique at the time.
Just what we need... another cheesy science fiction flick.
Please, stop calling Star Wars "science fiction". It is not. It's futuristic fantasy at best (spare me the "a long time ago" crap. It's futuristic compared to present Earth).
Star Wars is fiction, and has nothing to do with science.
What's futuristic about it? The... style of clothing? Because, by your argument, it can't be the science or the technology. If that were the case it would be fiction which makes use of speculation on technology/science to frame the story or locale. Well, at the local library, they file that under 'science fiction'. The books about dragons and wizards go under the 'fantasy' card.
So you can't be bothered to be anal retentive about the 'future' bit, that's "crap" (but somewhere there's a futurist analogue to you who is cursing you for such heresy), but you can with the 'science' part? You're OK with 'futuristic fantasy' despite the author's assertion that the story has no relation to Earth or our future, yet calling it 'science fiction' gets you worked up because there's no scientific speculation (which is arguable no matter how hokey you perceive Lucas's writing)? Let's just say "in your estimation".
If you were arguing the age old notion that there is no such thing as science fiction, only 'speculative fiction', that's one thing. But it's seems you just have a problem with [what you perceive as] the sullying of the word science by its mixing with anything you deem as fantasy (is it the goofy wizard-like Jedi?). I have to assume, then, that what some call 'hard SciFi' is the only thing you would endorse as 'science fiction'. But in the end "science fiction" is a genre identifier and Star Wars is within it according to the author(s), distributors, cataloguers, classifiers and, yes, buying public.
I'm not a Star Wars fangirl and that's not my motivation for replying. Defending Lucas isn't real high on my list of priorities. But I am an avid reader of the genre. Saying a moose in Fiji is not a moose because your experience says all moose live in Canada doesn't change the moose.
Star Wars is science fiction because that's what we say it is, not because it took some test and scored higher in maths and sciences than the Dragonrider books.
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As did I, but I felt bad since it was dead and instead clicked on all of the different ads.
Hyperion was a really really crappy retread of Canterbury Tales. I wanted my time back after finishing that turd.
Star Wars is not science fiction. It does not make science fiction less good. It does not take away science fiction's lollypop. Star Wars (4-6) were good space opera. 1 and 2 are, well, not.
Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
There's no images at all when you follow the link. Did Lucas put the hammer down or what?
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I'm old enough and been around long enough that Episode 2 has quickly become and will most likely stay my favourite, because the brooding late adolescent Anakin is a character I have met over and over again in real life, and is portrayed convincingly enough within the terms of the overall generally fun scenario.
I have to wonder whether much of the reaction against both 1 and 2 here is because their portrayal of Anakin brings out emotional baggage that many younger Slashdotters have not yet managed to resolve.
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The midicholorians apparently represent a biological way of quantifying someone's force potential. Beyond this, they are also intrenched into the Jedi religion itself. A person created by the midicholorians could be viewed as both a biological act (i.e. a virus causing impregnation) and a spiritual act (the Force "willing" someone into being). We have both the divine and mundane aspects involved - Obi Wan confirms the Anakin's midicholorian count at the behest of Qui-Gon's belief that Anakin's birth is the fulfillment of prophecy.
Here, again, we see how "the truths we cling to depend on our point of view", and also how "our focus determines our reality". Anakin was brought up to believe he was the "chosen one" who will "bring balance". What these terms mean, we can only conjecture. By joining the Dark side, he does bring balance by reducing the number of Jedi to exactly the number of Sith; master and apprentice. You can also argue that balance is returned when Palpatine/Sidious is ultimately destroyed by Anakin's sacrifice.
Anakin's lineage has been kept a mystery, and perhaps for good reason. I personally believe that Shmi Skywalker knew more about Anakin's conception than she told Qui-gon. While I don't doubt that "there was no father", I would hardly believe that it was the "will of the Force" alone that caused it.
One thing we know about the Sith is they *love* playing gods. How Darth Sidious and Darth Tyrannus work both sides of the war to their own means is, imho, nothing short of brilliant storytelling; a fact that is overlooked far to often on /. We'd much rather complain about Anakin's "sand dialog", but I digress...
Sidious has already shown his willing to create abomination. His creation of the Clone Army is evident of this; tampering with life itself. So here's the real rub: Since midicholorians are a quantifiable biological entity, and an apparent physical link to the spiritual aspects of the Force, it only makes sense that Sidious would use this fact to his advantage. My theory is that Anakin's creation is part of a diabolical Sith experiment. Find some poor slave girl in the ass-end of the galaxy, load her up with Midicholorians, and wait. The child created will be the most Force - sensitive being in existance. Since he is outside of the reach of the Republic, his early impressions and experiences will be out of the control of the Jedi. By the time he becomes a Padawan, it's already too late to change these impressions. Add on the fact that once his training does begin, he's considered by many to be devine: The Morning Star who is soon to fall from grace.
This is just my theory, of course. But Lucas has promised that Anakin's origins will be revealed in the next film. It may very well be that the so fan-reviled Midicholorians, are in fact, the most important element in the entire Trilogy.
Xenon, where's my money? -Borno
I doubt that it is actually possible to spoil EP3. I mean, we all already know that it will be full of typical Star Wars-like characters doing Star Wars-like actions, reciting boring lines, the whole movie devoid of any originality and ideas.
glad im a trek fan :)
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This has got to be a fake. Compare the following pictures side by side and you can see that it is not Hayden Christensen under that makeup.
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You'll be shocked.
I can't convey just how massive the difference between the re-release and the original is. I'm hoping to make DVD copies of the laser disk version just so that they are available for my friends.
It's astonishing to think that such a good film is actually generally not available except in its current variety of crappy forms. Your reaction to Star Wars was almost EXACTLY the same as mine until I saw a rare original cut.
Script, acting, direction, etc., these are not the problem, though they appear to be so on the surface. There's something much deeper at fault in the normal copies available to the public.
-FL
In C there actually is a separate NULL value, just that the syntax for null is in fact a 0 in pointer context. The C standard says nothing about what binary pattern will actually be stored in the variable when you issue a statement such as "int *foo = 0;", all you know is that foo is now NULL and is guaranteed to compare false to any value returned by the & operator or other calls, such as a successful call to malloc().
As a consequence, the following is not guaranteed to give you a NULL pointer in "foo":
However, the following is: