I have a question: Why not sell them at auction with the caveat that the winning bidder has to also remove all of them from service, completing a specified removal procedure? Does that make too much common sense?
Please re-read my post. I don't use Windows. I keep it running so I can use it if I have to for some compatibility reason or other. I give it 10 minutes of maintenance about twice a month... then go to bed while it runs the anti-virus etc. It would take much more than that to set up VM and fiddle with that every time I upgrade.. meh, I'll reboot if I ever have to use Windows for something, which is looking less and less likely thank you very much.
I dual boot for one simple reason: The machine I bought had XP on it, it's a legal copy, and having it provides some level of compatibility with Windows only software for now. I don't use Windows, but keep that drive installed and updated should I ever need a Windows machine. I boot to Windows about twice a month just to upgrade and run anti-virus software and make sure it still works. Other than that it just sits there. It's cheaper and more resource respectful to use the dual boot option and leave Windows on its own drive rather than VM options. I don't have to test/reconfigure things every time I upgrade Linux, just like two machines that I cannot use at the same time. It works for me.
Isn't this the line taken by people that think DRM works? I think those people have been proven rather wrong on nearly every occasion. "virtually impossible" ? Now that's the kind of phrase that helped Sony decide a rootkit was a good thing to put on audio CDs. Awesome.
Archiving software and hardware is a concern for more than games, and I think it's a very good effort whether for games or old MS Office formats. Some day they are going to get a call from some government needing 2.7345TB of tape archives translated to whatever the newest format is... or... or... Vger will show up looking for the creator of some Atari game and give Earth 24 solar hours to produce him before destroying the Galaxy.
I said something similar regarding the Russian decision to use Linux. It wasn't received too well. I think that this sort of event truly does mean trouble for MS and proprietary software in a rather large way.
I think that it is more likely that F/OSS developers will beat large proprietary vendors to the punch though. There will be a new market for proprietary Linux software though. When Adobe does port to Linux it doesn't have to be Free or Open Source to run on Linux, but it will be hard to sell software to people that are happy to use the F/OSS alternatives.
Actually, I think there are some interesting points about this: An entire country of some import has finally said "enough, fuck proprietary software, lets write our own!" Yes, I know there is RedFlag Linux and others, but this is still quite significant.
I have wondered for years why governments have trusted foreign companies to run their IT systems. On many levels it just doesn't make sense. Then you have things like the Russian school teacher who was prosecuted for OS software in the school. It allows little business boyers of commerce to come in your country and tell you what to do. Most sovereign nations are a bit touchy about such things.
Personally, I think that this and other recent events regarding Linux are solid signs that Linux will neither disappear nor lose to MS/Apple. If you want to frame things in terms of Linux on the Desktop I'd say Ubuntu is your answer, and lots of folk are following suit, including big names like Sun et al. When an entire country says it, we should probably listen closely.
No, FedoraRusso OS is not the answer for everything, but it sets a trend, an attitude. Imagine how many Russians would pirate MS Windows if they can get THE "Russian OS" for free? In the end, BSA will get what they want; no piracy of MS products in Russia. Unfortunately for MS Russians will be buying less of their products too. Whether it was meant as such or not, there is no larger way to say fsck you. If they actually follow through and demand that trading partners meet their demands for data interchange..... well hello! ODF. It could have some far reaching impacts. Look at problems caused by using metric and imperial measurements in the space program. I'm willing to be that government and business requirements for data interchange will demand changes even outside of Russia, and that is where it truly becomes interesting for me.
Whether the speculation on reasons for the two leaving is right or not, there is one thing that can be said: MySQL had enough going for it that Sun paid a tidy sum to get it. Whatever they did to cause the 'break up' it was not a good thing.
Car Analogy: If you buy a racing team; expensive cars, mechanics, drivers... and two star drivers walk out... well, lets just say winner's circle is probably not in your short term future, and the cost of business operations just doubled.
I hoped someone would say this. There will be a lot of people that buy the full deal because it will be sold to them with the computer and they don't know better, and it's an easy sell.
Also, the 'initially lite OS' idea is fantastic. It's one of the reasons that I like Ubuntu. The upgrade to workforce nuclear powered pro Ubuntu is the same as any upgrade; free and easy. You lose nothing by starting lite, and potentially remove a number of vulnerabilities that the end user may not be aware of in software that they may never use or need.
I think it would mean more to the viewer if they realized that the original series was written with both the Vietnam War and Summer of Love in plain view. Among all the firsts that the original series created they also created true science fiction; they created stories that told of the issues of mankind in a setting that is in the future and beyond our technology. It was a brilliant series that addressed issues of the day that were addressed in no other way that was as illuminating or cogent. They truly deserve the accolades they have received since.
The stories they told were bold and still apply to today, having stood the test of time even if the technology portrayed leaves a bit of questioning to a modern viewer. As an atheist I truly appreciate how they handled religions. Faced with racism every day I truly appreciate how they handled racism, and have continued to handle it in other series.
If we as a society follow what we are shown on television, I truly hope that we can follow the examples set by the Star Trek series.
side note: I don't wear red shirts anymore... just can't do it.
I'd like to be able to tell them that they need my permission each and every time they want to try to match my DNA or fingerprints to a crime scene too.
Where I live they like to only license them as 'private clubs' and often need you to 'join' by letting them swipe your driver's license. I walk out when they ask for that. I walk out if they want my driver's license and credit card to open a tab. I walk out if I have to do anything more than someone sitting at a restaurant who has a couple of beers with dinner. So far, I've not suffered for it. But if anyone from Utah is listening, I won't visit Utah if I have to become a club member to have a drink at the hotel bar. If I've been fine not going to a few establishments near my home, I'm pretty damn certain I won't miss anything in Utah. Good luck with attracting tourists.
More or less when the Whitehouse press secretary gave the MSM their news stories for the day. This has been shown to be a fact, though exactly what they were encouraged to mislead the world with is not fully clear. The Whitehouse never had to say it, only imply it subtly and have the MSM rally the public to that idea. You might recall the controversy surrounding the 'support the troops' government meme?
History has shown us that if there is a database to check the fingerprints or DNA against for a match, it will be done. This is the same thing as getting all those people to donate their DNA and fingerprints for every crime that is committed. Another way, all the people in the database are assumed to be guilty until their DNA/fingerprints are shown to not match those found at the crime scene.
How long before a crime is committed where DNA is planted? How will law enforcement teams solve a crime when the only DNA found is that of the governor; who happens to have a solid alibi? Will they keep searching the database looking for someone that is a close match, or simply decide it was planted evidence?
The database is worse than rifling through bags. The bag checker doesn't know who you are. The database does. The bag checker is assuming your guilty and only letting you go when you are proven innocent. The database is the same thing as police coming to your door 14 times a month to collect your DNA for use in solving a crime. Bio-identification is not secure, it is not foolproof, and it necessarily makes you guilty until proven innocent if the police have it in their database.
Yes, and that database amounts to illegal search of the populace for every crime when they use a database to find a match to some DNA found at a crime scene. The same goes for finger prints.
There are arguments both ways, but in the end having a database of identifying information on huge portions of the citizenry is the same as stores checking your bag when you leave: you are guilty until proven innocent by way of not matching the evidence. This goes against the intent of the law.
This is not a slippery slope, it's a roller coaster drop off.... but I'm not sure there is a smooth curved set of rails to stop the impending crash.
I don't think that many people in American (or the world for that matter) thought that 'change you can believe in' meant exactly what you imply that it seems to mean. I think the only real change we got was the name plate on the desk in the oval office.
I'm with you. I have read this whole thread to try to figure out WTF people are seeing. I don't get pop-ups and crap. What is wrong with my setup that I am not being plagued by this new method? I guess it turns out to be FUD article and people that have not used the tools that have been provided to them.
Flashblock is a good addon too. I had autoloading media. It's nice that I can push the button to play or ignore it safely if I feel like it.
Admittedly, the authors of such books sound like they had tin foil permanently implanted in their scalps, but it is one argument for developing them. Other arguments are more prescient.
I personally do not believe that we (as a planet) should be cutting back on space technology of any kind. There are resources in our solar system that could be very useful in the near future. We need to get there and use them.
Dude, I think we both agree completely. We let Bush do things that are bad, and we need now to NOT let Obama do them. I said he happens to be black because it doesn't matter to me what color he is. Color will not make him incapable of being the same kind of bad leader Bush was, or worse.
Nuclear weapons have tended to prevent or contain conflicts between those nations that possess them. Today's nuclear nightmare tends to focus less on a doomsday exchange with similarly armed rival states than on the nightmare of "loose nukes" falling into the hands of terrorists unaligned with any state and therefore beyond the reach of deterrence. A new batch of nuclear weapons, unfortunately, isn't going to change that.
I know this is a bad analogy, but knives and bows/arrows are still a threat. All the saber rattling with Iran was not about "...terrorists unaligned with any state and therefore beyond the reach of deterrence." It's about a state that they worry is trying to achieve nuclear weapons capability. Kim Jong Il is not a loose terrorist. It's easy to argue that the original reason of MAD is still valid, and that the nuclear deterrents are still needed.
Take this thread altogether and it appears that Obama is working to disarm the USA altogether. Whatever it means I think 'we the people' are owed an explanation that makes sense. When it _looks_ like our defenses are coming down, and troops are being deployed on home soil I think it's high time to be worried; high time to be asking the Executive "WTF are you doing?"
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I have a question: Why not sell them at auction with the caveat that the winning bidder has to also remove all of them from service, completing a specified removal procedure? Does that make too much common sense?
Please re-read my post. I don't use Windows. I keep it running so I can use it if I have to for some compatibility reason or other. I give it 10 minutes of maintenance about twice a month... then go to bed while it runs the anti-virus etc. It would take much more than that to set up VM and fiddle with that every time I upgrade.. meh, I'll reboot if I ever have to use Windows for something, which is looking less and less likely thank you very much.
I dual boot for one simple reason: The machine I bought had XP on it, it's a legal copy, and having it provides some level of compatibility with Windows only software for now. I don't use Windows, but keep that drive installed and updated should I ever need a Windows machine. I boot to Windows about twice a month just to upgrade and run anti-virus software and make sure it still works. Other than that it just sits there. It's cheaper and more resource respectful to use the dual boot option and leave Windows on its own drive rather than VM options. I don't have to test/reconfigure things every time I upgrade Linux, just like two machines that I cannot use at the same time. It works for me.
Nothing is funnier about '25 things' than what Linus himself wrote in his blog, reproduced here for your convenience, in its entirety:
1. I get bored really easily.
Isn't this the line taken by people that think DRM works? I think those people have been proven rather wrong on nearly every occasion. "virtually impossible" ? Now that's the kind of phrase that helped Sony decide a rootkit was a good thing to put on audio CDs. Awesome.
Archiving software and hardware is a concern for more than games, and I think it's a very good effort whether for games or old MS Office formats. Some day they are going to get a call from some government needing 2.7345TB of tape archives translated to whatever the newest format is... or... or... Vger will show up looking for the creator of some Atari game and give Earth 24 solar hours to produce him before destroying the Galaxy.
I said something similar regarding the Russian decision to use Linux. It wasn't received too well. I think that this sort of event truly does mean trouble for MS and proprietary software in a rather large way.
I think that it is more likely that F/OSS developers will beat large proprietary vendors to the punch though. There will be a new market for proprietary Linux software though. When Adobe does port to Linux it doesn't have to be Free or Open Source to run on Linux, but it will be hard to sell software to people that are happy to use the F/OSS alternatives.
It should be interesting times.
Actually, I think there are some interesting points about this: An entire country of some import has finally said "enough, fuck proprietary software, lets write our own!" Yes, I know there is RedFlag Linux and others, but this is still quite significant.
I have wondered for years why governments have trusted foreign companies to run their IT systems. On many levels it just doesn't make sense. Then you have things like the Russian school teacher who was prosecuted for OS software in the school. It allows little business boyers of commerce to come in your country and tell you what to do. Most sovereign nations are a bit touchy about such things.
Personally, I think that this and other recent events regarding Linux are solid signs that Linux will neither disappear nor lose to MS/Apple. If you want to frame things in terms of Linux on the Desktop I'd say Ubuntu is your answer, and lots of folk are following suit, including big names like Sun et al. When an entire country says it, we should probably listen closely.
No, FedoraRusso OS is not the answer for everything, but it sets a trend, an attitude. Imagine how many Russians would pirate MS Windows if they can get THE "Russian OS" for free? In the end, BSA will get what they want; no piracy of MS products in Russia. Unfortunately for MS Russians will be buying less of their products too. Whether it was meant as such or not, there is no larger way to say fsck you. If they actually follow through and demand that trading partners meet their demands for data interchange..... well hello! ODF. It could have some far reaching impacts. Look at problems caused by using metric and imperial measurements in the space program. I'm willing to be that government and business requirements for data interchange will demand changes even outside of Russia, and that is where it truly becomes interesting for me.
Hello :) I too, am an evolution user...
Whether the speculation on reasons for the two leaving is right or not, there is one thing that can be said: MySQL had enough going for it that Sun paid a tidy sum to get it. Whatever they did to cause the 'break up' it was not a good thing.
Car Analogy: If you buy a racing team; expensive cars, mechanics, drivers... and two star drivers walk out... well, lets just say winner's circle is probably not in your short term future, and the cost of business operations just doubled.
I hoped someone would say this. There will be a lot of people that buy the full deal because it will be sold to them with the computer and they don't know better, and it's an easy sell.
Also, the 'initially lite OS' idea is fantastic. It's one of the reasons that I like Ubuntu. The upgrade to workforce nuclear powered pro Ubuntu is the same as any upgrade; free and easy. You lose nothing by starting lite, and potentially remove a number of vulnerabilities that the end user may not be aware of in software that they may never use or need.
I think it would mean more to the viewer if they realized that the original series was written with both the Vietnam War and Summer of Love in plain view. Among all the firsts that the original series created they also created true science fiction; they created stories that told of the issues of mankind in a setting that is in the future and beyond our technology. It was a brilliant series that addressed issues of the day that were addressed in no other way that was as illuminating or cogent. They truly deserve the accolades they have received since.
The stories they told were bold and still apply to today, having stood the test of time even if the technology portrayed leaves a bit of questioning to a modern viewer. As an atheist I truly appreciate how they handled religions. Faced with racism every day I truly appreciate how they handled racism, and have continued to handle it in other series.
If we as a society follow what we are shown on television, I truly hope that we can follow the examples set by the Star Trek series.
side note: I don't wear red shirts anymore ... just can't do it.
If you open the CD case and your OS comes out and sees it's shadow, it means 6 more years of Linux.
I'd like to be able to tell them that they need my permission each and every time they want to try to match my DNA or fingerprints to a crime scene too.
You could try turning them off by editing your hosts file.
Not sure about doing only certain applications.
I hope Google reacts to this backlash with changes that make sense to the /. crowd.
shhhhhhh damnit! You'll give the secret away. So far, in Texas, they haven't figured it out yet.
Where I live they like to only license them as 'private clubs' and often need you to 'join' by letting them swipe your driver's license. I walk out when they ask for that. I walk out if they want my driver's license and credit card to open a tab. I walk out if I have to do anything more than someone sitting at a restaurant who has a couple of beers with dinner. So far, I've not suffered for it. But if anyone from Utah is listening, I won't visit Utah if I have to become a club member to have a drink at the hotel bar. If I've been fine not going to a few establishments near my home, I'm pretty damn certain I won't miss anything in Utah. Good luck with attracting tourists.
More or less when the Whitehouse press secretary gave the MSM their news stories for the day. This has been shown to be a fact, though exactly what they were encouraged to mislead the world with is not fully clear. The Whitehouse never had to say it, only imply it subtly and have the MSM rally the public to that idea. You might recall the controversy surrounding the 'support the troops' government meme?
That is true, but I don't have to be happy about it... sigh
History has shown us that if there is a database to check the fingerprints or DNA against for a match, it will be done. This is the same thing as getting all those people to donate their DNA and fingerprints for every crime that is committed. Another way, all the people in the database are assumed to be guilty until their DNA/fingerprints are shown to not match those found at the crime scene.
How long before a crime is committed where DNA is planted? How will law enforcement teams solve a crime when the only DNA found is that of the governor; who happens to have a solid alibi? Will they keep searching the database looking for someone that is a close match, or simply decide it was planted evidence?
The database is worse than rifling through bags. The bag checker doesn't know who you are. The database does. The bag checker is assuming your guilty and only letting you go when you are proven innocent. The database is the same thing as police coming to your door 14 times a month to collect your DNA for use in solving a crime. Bio-identification is not secure, it is not foolproof, and it necessarily makes you guilty until proven innocent if the police have it in their database.
Yes, and that database amounts to illegal search of the populace for every crime when they use a database to find a match to some DNA found at a crime scene. The same goes for finger prints.
There are arguments both ways, but in the end having a database of identifying information on huge portions of the citizenry is the same as stores checking your bag when you leave: you are guilty until proven innocent by way of not matching the evidence. This goes against the intent of the law.
This is not a slippery slope, it's a roller coaster drop off .... but I'm not sure there is a smooth curved set of rails to stop the impending crash.
I don't think that many people in American (or the world for that matter) thought that 'change you can believe in' meant exactly what you imply that it seems to mean. I think the only real change we got was the name plate on the desk in the oval office.
I'm with you. I have read this whole thread to try to figure out WTF people are seeing. I don't get pop-ups and crap. What is wrong with my setup that I am not being plagued by this new method? I guess it turns out to be FUD article and people that have not used the tools that have been provided to them.
Flashblock is a good addon too. I had autoloading media. It's nice that I can push the button to play or ignore it safely if I feel like it.
Admittedly, the authors of such books sound like they had tin foil permanently implanted in their scalps, but it is one argument for developing them. Other arguments are more prescient.
I personally do not believe that we (as a planet) should be cutting back on space technology of any kind. There are resources in our solar system that could be very useful in the near future. We need to get there and use them.
Dude, I think we both agree completely. We let Bush do things that are bad, and we need now to NOT let Obama do them. I said he happens to be black because it doesn't matter to me what color he is. Color will not make him incapable of being the same kind of bad leader Bush was, or worse.
FTFA you linked:
Nuclear weapons have tended to prevent or contain conflicts between those nations that possess them. Today's nuclear nightmare tends to focus less on a doomsday exchange with similarly armed rival states than on the nightmare of "loose nukes" falling into the hands of terrorists unaligned with any state and therefore beyond the reach of deterrence. A new batch of nuclear weapons, unfortunately, isn't going to change that.
I know this is a bad analogy, but knives and bows/arrows are still a threat. All the saber rattling with Iran was not about "...terrorists unaligned with any state and therefore beyond the reach of deterrence." It's about a state that they worry is trying to achieve nuclear weapons capability. Kim Jong Il is not a loose terrorist. It's easy to argue that the original reason of MAD is still valid, and that the nuclear deterrents are still needed.
Take this thread altogether and it appears that Obama is working to disarm the USA altogether. Whatever it means I think 'we the people' are owed an explanation that makes sense. When it _looks_ like our defenses are coming down, and troops are being deployed on home soil I think it's high time to be worried; high time to be asking the Executive "WTF are you doing?"