However current systems generate a report for a police officer to investigate, rather than denying acccess to fuel (which in remote areas can be vital). This is extension to would the innocent access. The inteligence step is often critical in legal issues to avoid harrassment.
Agreed - and we already have the laws to do this. That is not a reason to introduce an automated system that (due to size and complexity) will have inevitable failures impacting the law abiding. Just a poorly thought out idea.
Flaw in your argument is in the first sentance "normally". Yes this could make a system that works for 95% of transactions. Still the failure rate is significantly greater than the benefit gained. Good systems designers don't stop thinking at the "normal" case.
Lets see how you feel after being denied fuel due to a database error, and no fault of your own. This is just a bad idea, as any systems engineer / systems analyst can see. Potential for failure far out weighs benefit.
Except Tolkein didn't coin the term "Hobbit" (and admitted this himself) - previously used mid 1800s. The pub has used the name for twenty years. This trade in a word or name (putting aside the other issue of using images) is destructive bullying.
it actually consumes orders of magnitude more heat than could possibly be considered in theory or measured in practice.
What? Scientific models of how our Sun work exist, and as do measurements of heat from it. They are big. I strongly doubt even any old/inefficient human made computing system has yet got anywhere near our Sun.
Could you be writing from some amazingly dangerous alternative universe with a massive energy cost on information? Or am I the victim of a sophisticated troll employing meaningless hyperbole?
That the mechanism you select absorbs heat does not mean that some heat was not released. Possibly a small amout of heat was released by the state change whilst the mechanism also absorbed heat. It is not the net effect (overall heat absorbed) that is the critical point here.
Not convinced that the thought experiment disproves Landaue (but very interesting - thank you AC), but I am not an expert in this area - very interested if someone with deeper specific knowledge could enlighten?
Oh it has a law on Wikipedia, must be a waste of time to test or verify it then! Seriously, have a read about how science works before attempting to comment again. A "law" in science is not like a legal law - i.e. it is not a fact merely by self-assertion (a legal law is a law because law makers say so). Scientific "laws" require test and proof; they often require refinement in details. Scientific "laws" do not exist as abstract facts about the universe - they are human attempts to model the universe from the knowledge we currently have. Our limited knowledge means that the detail may be imperfect. A quick survey of the history of science demonstrates that we often get them wrong.
I'm not attempting to challenge the "laws" of thermodynamics - my guess would be that we have the broad picture right (we have a lot of evidence in favour), but again, given the history of science I would be surprised if every detail of taught theory in that area survives the next few hundred years without some modification.
Yes the scientists doing this probably expected some heat to be measured. They were more interested in precisely how much. This is science - an ongoing process.
"...and five year naming rights for our country sold to the highest bidder..."
Already started a UK fund to buy the name "Little Britain" for the US for five years. Just going next door to see if Liz & Phil are good for a few quid.
Suspect in reality it is due to the potential (in both cases) for death penalty. The UK does not extradite where this is possible in a trial as a policy, the UK being against the death penalty.
UK has form of blocking extradition for specific "crimes" it doesn't recognise. And for crimes it does recognise, where it is deemed treatment will be unfair - e.g. death penalty.
Yes it isn't abuse to issue such a warrant (under your terms), but it won't automaticially be recognised either. Declining the whole treay is unlikely where the differences come down to a few specific "offenses".
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However current systems generate a report for a police officer to investigate, rather than denying acccess to fuel (which in remote areas can be vital). This is extension to would the innocent access. The inteligence step is often critical in legal issues to avoid harrassment.
Agreed - and we already have the laws to do this. That is not a reason to introduce an automated system that (due to size and complexity) will have inevitable failures impacting the law abiding. Just a poorly thought out idea.
Flaw in your argument is in the first sentance "normally". Yes this could make a system that works for 95% of transactions. Still the failure rate is significantly greater than the benefit gained. Good systems designers don't stop thinking at the "normal" case.
Wow! You make a great case for alowing firearms in the streets and dangerous sports at every school.
Just because we can heal some injuries doesn't mean we should make accidents more likely.
Please get a class in logic and reason or equivalent.
England > London.
Try again.
Why is it that geeks always need something to be flawless before they find it worth consideration?
On the flipside the question is: Why do so many people not think their ideas through?
Understand now?
In to your house. Stil feeling good? Think it through.
Even with a backlist there is more to go wrong with this system than the benefit gained.
There is a tunnel to Europe that takes cars. Read a book.
Lets see how you feel after being denied fuel due to a database error, and no fault of your own. This is just a bad idea, as any systems engineer / systems analyst can see. Potential for failure far out weighs benefit.
But I would have expected someone from the UK to get the sarcasm.
I see your point. The pub has the name twenty years ago. So they should be allowed to stop the film.
Except Tolkein didn't coin the term "Hobbit" (and admitted this himself) - previously used mid 1800s. The pub has used the name for twenty years. This trade in a word or name (putting aside the other issue of using images) is destructive bullying.
Except it is in Southampton. Not London.
it actually consumes orders of magnitude more heat than could possibly be considered in theory or measured in practice.
What? Scientific models of how our Sun work exist, and as do measurements of heat from it. They are big. I strongly doubt even any old/inefficient human made computing system has yet got anywhere near our Sun.
Could you be writing from some amazingly dangerous alternative universe with a massive energy cost on information? Or am I the victim of a sophisticated troll employing meaningless hyperbole?
too many people of this planet believe the sentences are true.
FTFY. I can't see how thinking has anything to do with it at all. Too many people simply refuse to do it.
And hence they are saving the universe ... Must try to remember this when next debating with the unreasoning - they are doing it for all of us...
Interesting.
That the mechanism you select absorbs heat does not mean that some heat was not released. Possibly a small amout of heat was released by the state change whilst the mechanism also absorbed heat. It is not the net effect (overall heat absorbed) that is the critical point here.
Not convinced that the thought experiment disproves Landaue (but very interesting - thank you AC), but I am not an expert in this area - very interested if someone with deeper specific knowledge could enlighten?
Oh it has a law on Wikipedia, must be a waste of time to test or verify it then! Seriously, have a read about how science works before attempting to comment again. A "law" in science is not like a legal law - i.e. it is not a fact merely by self-assertion (a legal law is a law because law makers say so). Scientific "laws" require test and proof; they often require refinement in details. Scientific "laws" do not exist as abstract facts about the universe - they are human attempts to model the universe from the knowledge we currently have. Our limited knowledge means that the detail may be imperfect. A quick survey of the history of science demonstrates that we often get them wrong.
I'm not attempting to challenge the "laws" of thermodynamics - my guess would be that we have the broad picture right (we have a lot of evidence in favour), but again, given the history of science I would be surprised if every detail of taught theory in that area survives the next few hundred years without some modification.
Yes the scientists doing this probably expected some heat to be measured. They were more interested in precisely how much. This is science - an ongoing process.
Way ahead of you. Stopped this sometime ago. Also took out a couple of scientists - and burnt them, so that will help.
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"...and five year naming rights for our country sold to the highest bidder..."
Already started a UK fund to buy the name "Little Britain" for the US for five years. Just going next door to see if Liz & Phil are good for a few quid.
Surely the capitalist would say: If it is far too expensive, buy ten.
Old xbox360 - glue in ethernet port. People do still play these things entirely offline at home don't they?
Suspect in reality it is due to the potential (in both cases) for death penalty. The UK does not extradite where this is possible in a trial as a policy, the UK being against the death penalty.
Only a theoretical concern for /. readers obviously...
Criminal codes change.
UK has form of blocking extradition for specific "crimes" it doesn't recognise. And for crimes it does recognise, where it is deemed treatment will be unfair - e.g. death penalty.
Yes it isn't abuse to issue such a warrant (under your terms), but it won't automaticially be recognised either. Declining the whole treay is unlikely where the differences come down to a few specific "offenses".