Watch Toy Story 1,2, Monster's Inc, or the Emperor's New Groove. One of the joys of having kids is discovering that these animated "kids" movies have plenty of adult-oriented humor.
So, in the spirit of things, imagine this in a Kronk voice: -- "Yeah, she's like that with everyone... there's a wall there."
well, I must have missed your proof. All you did was restate your beliefs in expanded form. (if you can't reread your post and see that, you are beyond all hope of rational, logical human thought). "Proof" is evidence that leads to a conclusion.
Personally, I have no problems with most of point one (I don't call it "sin", but accepts we are imperfect. Perfect beings would probably last forever, for instance, and wouldn't get cancer.) and none of two (much of what happens in your life is beyond your control and accepting that is a bitch). Personally, I have no big problem with three either, but you could substitute "big red chicken from the planet Zoltar" for "Lord" and it wouldn't change it's meaning (or proof/lack thereof) significantly.
I like the way you just expanded your original thought without addressing his question at all. I won't slam you for not ANSWERING his question (you can't, nor can anyone else), but tell me, you pretended to answer his question, but really didn't. Isn't "pretending" just a fancy word for lying? Isn't lying a sin?
As a guy who learned SQL on MS-SQL (the -92 variant), going to Oracle now, this has been my biggest hurdle. I have to mentally translate it back. I don't see how anyone could argue it is clearer to separate the joins from the filtering. In practice, I think most people puts joins first, then filters, but I've read some stuff that it might not always be the most efficient query.
I understand 9i now supports JOIN, but we're still running 8. SIGH.
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somebody uses something other than ones? She's gonna have to do more than rub her breasts on my face for a fiver, or am I a cheap bastard?
Note to self: Stop asking rhetorical questions... I mean, do they ever accomplish anything?
this is such B.S.... Get a book. The Black & Decker complete guide to home plumbing (& electrical) are awesome. I had a plumbing project bid out at $2500! $200 in supplies and two weekends later, it was done. Please, you program computers for a living and you think PLUMBING is rocket science? Gravity and pumps my friends. It's pretty simple, it's just hard, sometimes dirty work. If you don't want to do it, that's fine, but don't justify the $$$ by saying you CAN'T, because you can. Now for a small job, the overhead of tools you may not own could be a factor, but plumbing doesn't require many tools. Hack your house!
Yeah. People ask me all the time why they have problems with their computers. Because computers are COMPLEX. I remember using this piece of shareware that tracked registry changes and it could also track all registry activity through a boot in Win9x, nt, and 2000. The help file said have plenty of HD space because a typical 2k boot had between 120,000 and 150,000 registry reads/writes!!! That's a lot of things to go wrong. The more I learn about the PC/Windows Hardware/software cludge, the more I'm amazed it works at all. There's so much legacy crap in there glued together. Hack, upon hack, upon ugly hack.
Put outlook in the "restricted zone" . Turn off everything in the restricted zone. OE does this by default now, I believe. I've done this and never gotten a virus (except once thru a server shared file someone else infected).
I've seen some custom bios'es for various mobos on some of the overclocking boards' floating around, so obviously poeople have done it. I'd poke around in the OC boards/newsgroups.
I agree, but I wasn't very clear. This was just USING the software. It flat out wouldn't work without admin access.
Actually, I've ran across some stuff that has the opposite problem of putting stuff in HKLM section. It ONLY put it in the current user. IMHO, a product shouldn't be able to say it is nt/2k/xp compatible without giving you the option of installing for the current user only or ANY user of that machine. Sometimes you have to run the install twice or more (once for each user), overwriting files, just to insure everyone gets the registry entries.
I agree. This is just criminal on software makers part to say something is 2K compatible, but obviously never tested at the non-admin level. I tried having my wife's account in the "power users" level (just so there were certain things she wouldn't inadvertently do) and I got tired of stuff not working correctly and eventually put 'em in the admin.
I went round and round with a scanner manufacturer (agfa, anyone?), finally the POS scanner broke and I bought a new one. I actually did a security audit on registry and this is exactly what they were doing. I emailed the info to tech support, told them to please send to their developers. Never did hear anything. What morons are programming this stuff? Who QA's it? I mean, are they not capable of creating an account that isn't an admin? Biz software is fairly good at this (because at your office, you probably not an admin of the box), but home software is bad. Really bad.
well, I meant no offense. I actually, read an article on that Navy Intranet/EDS project just the other day and how it's becoming a bit of a fiasco. Ah, I found it. here it is off of IDG.net, which is a cool IT "consolidator" site, to COmputerworld. Looks like you're not the only one who is concerned about this project.
"A company called EDS" is probably the single funniest comment I've ever read on Slashdot. I don't see how anyone could be in this business and not know who EDS is. It's Ross Perot's company. It's one of the biggest contracting/consulting (if not the biggest) firms in the world. You make it sound like a dude some admirial knows who has an office at the strip mall and a Dell.
Well, I see the problem. Most sites I design use a big table to resize page dynamically. So the base of the page is one big table with a menu pane on top, a menu on the left, (both of which are big cells), then big tables inside the main area. So ALL forms are going to be inside a table. Moving the form tags completely outside the table is a pain to read, but I guess I could do it....
Ok, now that I've been modded out of existence and insulted, I'll go over this again, in slightly more forceful language.
Despite the comment by a poster below, I'm "reasonably intelligent" (and have the IQ test to prove it) and certainly not ignorant of standards and fully capable of writing standards-compliant HTML/Javascript. But I don't. Here's the reason why folks: BECAUSE I'M NOT THE ONE PAYING THE BILL! I don't write web pages for me, I write them for folks who pay for them. If I want to do something for fun, or enjoyment, I'll play hockey or do some woodworking or play poker, but I program for a living. To house and feed my family.
You CANNOT tell me it does not cost more to develop multiple versions of scripts to do interactive content. And any monkey with any number of graphical editors can knock out static HTML. You're only paid for dynamic, server side code in something and client-side scripting. It takes more development hours ($) to develop multiple versions of scripts, and more QA test machines and personnel ($) to test those pages on multiple platforms and more support personnel ($) to support those multiple platforms. Thus, many, many folks footing the bill for all this lovely web development chose not to incur those extra costs to support the 3-4% of the user base that doesn't use IE (those were the last numbers I saw). For an intranet/extranet application (where most of my work is done these days), that number declines to less than 1% in most cases.
I guess you could call me immoral for working for such "heavens", but I don't consider browser/computer/OS/hardware platform choice a moral issue. Sue me.
no guys. I'm talking using rows and cells to make the form look the way you want it. Input tags inside td's and tr's... this is apparently a no-no, but works fine in IE, Netscape, Mozilla, Opera....
I may be confused. I frequently use HTMLTidy and it says "no no", I ignore it. I just ran the w3 validator and it choked on every "input" tag in a table, said "check which elements are allowed here".
Look, I design HTML so it renders in anything, no problem. But the standards are ridiculous and have no bearing on the real world. W3 validators say I can't put form elements in tables!!!! Hello? What do I tell employers/clients when their forms look like sh*t!? Sorry, but even though Netscape, Mozzilla and IE all render this page just fine, It doesn't conform to standards and my ethics won't allow me to code it?
But when I'm doing heavy Javascripting/DOM stuff, I ain't taking the trouble to write several versions of scripts. I always present the option of netscape/mozilla compatibilty, but when they use nothing but IE, they don't care. I'm working on an intranet project right now that has some government employees on Sun's. I said "we need to take the extra time to make this netscape compatible", the team lead says "oh, they have IE on termnial server, we're not bothering!".
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We're doomed Chucky, doomed I tells ya!
Watch Toy Story 1,2, Monster's Inc, or the Emperor's New Groove. One of the joys of having kids is discovering that these animated "kids" movies have plenty of adult-oriented humor.
... there's a wall there."
So, in the spirit of things, imagine this in a Kronk voice:
--
"Yeah, she's like that with everyone
well, you gave me a good laugh at a time when I really needed it, so I thank you.
Like Pitfall? I loved it. I recently found a java version on the web here
well, I must have missed your proof. All you did was restate your beliefs in expanded form. (if you can't reread your post and see that, you are beyond all hope of rational, logical human thought). "Proof" is evidence that leads to a conclusion.
Personally, I have no problems with most of point one (I don't call it "sin", but accepts we are imperfect. Perfect beings would probably last forever, for instance, and wouldn't get cancer.) and none of two (much of what happens in your life is beyond your control and accepting that is a bitch). Personally, I have no big problem with three either, but you could substitute "big red chicken from the planet Zoltar" for "Lord" and it wouldn't change it's meaning (or proof/lack thereof) significantly.
I like the way you just expanded your original thought without addressing his question at all. I won't slam you for not ANSWERING his question (you can't, nor can anyone else), but tell me, you pretended to answer his question, but really didn't. Isn't "pretending" just a fancy word for lying? Isn't lying a sin?
As a guy who learned SQL on MS-SQL (the -92 variant), going to Oracle now, this has been my biggest hurdle. I have to mentally translate it back. I don't see how anyone could argue it is clearer to separate the joins from the filtering. In practice, I think most people puts joins first, then filters, but I've read some stuff that it might not always be the most efficient query.
I understand 9i now supports JOIN, but we're still running 8. SIGH.
somebody uses something other than ones? She's gonna have to do more than rub her breasts on my face for a fiver, or am I a cheap bastard?
Note to self: Stop asking rhetorical questions... I mean, do they ever accomplish anything?
The ones who like to work? In my experience, that number, for some strange reason, is well in excess of 10%....
Hmmm, I've been programming for 5 years and I just want to know ... what are these "spec" and "test cases" you speak of?
this is such B.S.... Get a book. The Black & Decker complete guide to home plumbing (& electrical) are awesome. I had a plumbing project bid out at $2500! $200 in supplies and two weekends later, it was done. Please, you program computers for a living and you think PLUMBING is rocket science? Gravity and pumps my friends. It's pretty simple, it's just hard, sometimes dirty work. If you don't want to do it, that's fine, but don't justify the $$$ by saying you CAN'T, because you can. Now for a small job, the overhead of tools you may not own could be a factor, but plumbing doesn't require many tools. Hack your house!
Yeah. People ask me all the time why they have problems with their computers. Because computers are COMPLEX. I remember using this piece of shareware that tracked registry changes and it could also track all registry activity through a boot in Win9x, nt, and 2000. The help file said have plenty of HD space because a typical 2k boot had between 120,000 and 150,000 registry reads/writes!!! That's a lot of things to go wrong. The more I learn about the PC/Windows Hardware/software cludge, the more I'm amazed it works at all. There's so much legacy crap in there glued together. Hack, upon hack, upon ugly hack.
Put outlook in the "restricted zone" . Turn off everything in the restricted zone. OE does this by default now, I believe. I've done this and never gotten a virus (except once thru a server shared file someone else infected).
You don't think they would post this is Red Hat shipped with a virus?
No, I don't. Do you? Really?
my fuji 4700 is pretty damn small. About 1.25 by 4 by 3 inches. I carry it in my pocket. And it rocks. I absoutely love it.
I've seen some custom bios'es for various mobos on some of the overclocking boards' floating around, so obviously poeople have done it. I'd poke around in the OC boards/newsgroups.
I agree, but I wasn't very clear. This was just USING the software. It flat out wouldn't work without admin access.
Actually, I've ran across some stuff that has the opposite problem of putting stuff in HKLM section. It ONLY put it in the current user. IMHO, a product shouldn't be able to say it is nt/2k/xp compatible without giving you the option of installing for the current user only or ANY user of that machine. Sometimes you have to run the install twice or more (once for each user), overwriting files, just to insure everyone gets the registry entries.
I agree. This is just criminal on software makers part to say something is 2K compatible, but obviously never tested at the non-admin level. I tried having my wife's account in the "power users" level (just so there were certain things she wouldn't inadvertently do) and I got tired of stuff not working correctly and eventually put 'em in the admin.
I went round and round with a scanner manufacturer (agfa, anyone?), finally the POS scanner broke and I bought a new one. I actually did a security audit on registry and this is exactly what they were doing. I emailed the info to tech support, told them to please send to their developers. Never did hear anything. What morons are programming this stuff? Who QA's it? I mean, are they not capable of creating an account that isn't an admin? Biz software is fairly good at this (because at your office, you probably not an admin of the box), but home software is bad. Really bad.
well, I meant no offense. I actually, read an article on that Navy Intranet/EDS project just the other day and how it's becoming a bit of a fiasco. Ah, I found it. here it is off of IDG.net, which is a cool IT "consolidator" site, to COmputerworld. Looks like you're not the only one who is concerned about this project.
"A company called EDS" is probably the single funniest comment I've ever read on Slashdot. I don't see how anyone could be in this business and not know who EDS is. It's Ross Perot's company. It's one of the biggest contracting/consulting (if not the biggest) firms in the world. You make it sound like a dude some admirial knows who has an office at the strip mall and a Dell.
Well, I see the problem. Most sites I design use a big table to resize page dynamically. So the base of the page is one big table with a menu pane on top, a menu on the left, (both of which are big cells), then big tables inside the main area. So ALL forms are going to be inside a table. Moving the form tags completely outside the table is a pain to read, but I guess I could do it....
Ok, now that I've been modded out of existence and insulted, I'll go over this again, in slightly more forceful language.
Despite the comment by a poster below, I'm "reasonably intelligent" (and have the IQ test to prove it) and certainly not ignorant of standards and fully capable of writing standards-compliant HTML/Javascript. But I don't. Here's the reason why folks: BECAUSE I'M NOT THE ONE PAYING THE BILL! I don't write web pages for me, I write them for folks who pay for them. If I want to do something for fun, or enjoyment, I'll play hockey or do some woodworking or play poker, but I program for a living. To house and feed my family.
You CANNOT tell me it does not cost more to develop multiple versions of scripts to do interactive content. And any monkey with any number of graphical editors can knock out static HTML. You're only paid for dynamic, server side code in something and client-side scripting. It takes more development hours ($) to develop multiple versions of scripts, and more QA test machines and personnel ($) to test those pages on multiple platforms and more support personnel ($) to support those multiple platforms. Thus, many, many folks footing the bill for all this lovely web development chose not to incur those extra costs to support the 3-4% of the user base that doesn't use IE (those were the last numbers I saw). For an intranet/extranet application (where most of my work is done these days), that number declines to less than 1% in most cases.
I guess you could call me immoral for working for such "heavens", but I don't consider browser/computer/OS/hardware platform choice a moral issue. Sue me.
no guys. I'm talking using rows and cells to make the form look the way you want it. Input tags inside td's and tr's... this is apparently a no-no, but works fine in IE, Netscape, Mozilla, Opera....
I may be confused. I frequently use HTMLTidy and it says "no no", I ignore it. I just ran the w3 validator and it choked on every "input" tag in a table, said "check which elements are allowed here".
Look, I design HTML so it renders in anything, no problem. But the standards are ridiculous and have no bearing on the real world. W3 validators say I can't put form elements in tables!!!! Hello? What do I tell employers/clients when their forms look like sh*t!? Sorry, but even though Netscape, Mozzilla and IE all render this page just fine, It doesn't conform to standards and my ethics won't allow me to code it?
But when I'm doing heavy Javascripting/DOM stuff, I ain't taking the trouble to write several versions of scripts. I always present the option of netscape/mozilla compatibilty, but when they use nothing but IE, they don't care. I'm working on an intranet project right now that has some government employees on Sun's. I said "we need to take the extra time to make this netscape compatible", the team lead says "oh, they have IE on termnial server, we're not bothering!".