Republicans point to the plan already in progress, as a rare and not so smart chimpanzee is already taken care of by a team of adviso^Wexperts in Washington D.C.
Please do not moderate parent up, because it's just a guess at most.
Perl6 is actually built from user feedback, for the first time.
From wikipedia: Larry Wall, the creator of Perl, has called Perl 6 "the community's rewrite of Perl", because he has based the changes largely on 361 "requests for comments" submitted by the Perl community in 2000. He is outlining these changes in a series of long essays, called Apocalypses, which are numbered to correspond to chapters in Programming Perl ("The Camel Book"). The current, unfinalized, specification of Perl 6 is encapsulated in design documents called Synopses, which are numbered to correspond to Apocalyses.
One of the examples i forgot to mention is for example about the sale of traffic.
The ISP arm ended up paying the telco arm after traffic, not after bandwith, which means they are basically not losing anything since it's between two arms of the same company, but it will force other companies to do the same in the immediate future instead of paying after bandwidth.
I've seen it happen in my native country, Hungary, when a monopoly telecommunication company was split up this way.
The ISP arm ends up swallowing loss and unfavorable conditions while milking the consumers, and passes the revenue to the telco arm. This makes competition have a very hard time and the government ends up shrugging. Do not have a false sense of success just yet, dear australians. This won't work and your government knows that.
It is supposed to be a celebration of humanity, freedom and human skills and instead of it is a huge stinking, steroiding business, which tries to enact stupid laws about prohibiting citizens to say simple words.
How dares any organization claim ownership over the Olympic games? How dares that organization sell business rights related to the Olympic Games?
I would even question the amount of _donations_ which should be allowed at the Olympic Games because it is supposed to be not commercial. That's right: now fucking advertisments, official sponsors, etc.
Geez, this stupid law pissed me off. If people let this, all hope is lost for this planet, seriously. This is just the pinaccle of stupidity on the side of humanity. We're stupid if we're letting us to centralize our life around a tool: money. It has absolutely no value, it is just supposed to be a tool making trade possible. Our freedom matters much more.
You are well aware that base research is not performed by corporate interest right?
The USA's government heavily founded base research in the 60s and early 70s mostly because of the sputnik shock. The current electronical achievments are directly related to that research period, most of what we have in electronics as of today is a refining of those discoveries. The research stopped because of the increased costs, which is at least partially attributed to the oil crisis. Corporate science is refining, not discovering. There is also the very interesting subject of the japanese miracle: that they managed to be one of the leading technological innovators from a post WW2 losing nation with no industry whatsoever. In the 40-50s they bought second hand technology and refined that and sold the product. In the 60-70s they aquired quite recent technology and refined that, but the USA's economy didn't feel the pressure from japanese electrical products that much, because the USA was doing base research. In the 80-90s Japan developed cutting edge technology from their previous research and managed to be the pioneers in electronics, and the USA couldn't compete any more effectively because the USA no longer had the superiority in technology. There is also an interesting aspect of japanese efficiency which is mainly due to lacking resources on their islands. It forces and forced them to be efficient with resources.
There is also the difference in corporate spirit. The so called 7 dwarfs, the 7 largest companies in japan actively cooperate with the government in dividing up research and sharing it with each other. They kind of think long term. With that spirit in the recent years they are able to perform base research aswell, albeit not that huge scale like in the 70s in the USA.
My whole point with this huge historical perspective is that american corporatism did not drive technological innovation, it drived technological refining and that's a very different thing. The technological innovation stopped in the 70s and it is recently picked up by the Japanese and EU.
I only answered half of the topic yet: it is alright that corporatism doesn't drive scientific progress, but then why does a treaty do that?
The treaty's goal is to try to decrease the human factor in global warming. The way it does that is simple: must is a great incentive. Japan was forced to be efficient and that inspired a whole new branch of research into miniaturization and efficiency. Participating countries in the treaty realise that by doing research and sacrificing a short term economic advantage they are gaining a lot in long term, not only by having a livable planet, but by the long term advantages research gives. The treaty is supposed to be an incentive, not a rigid prohibition.
Given these reasons, which i'm sure politicians are aware of it is totally impossible to understand the viewpoint the USA and Australia is taking on this issue. The only possible explanation is very strong corporate influence on the politics, and that is kind of well documented both in the case of the Bush administration and aswell with Howard.
It is extremely useful for me to have all these logs, i need those on a weekly basis at least with thousands of little tidbits of info. However, i would never let google log all these details, it would quite possible include most things there is to know about me.
Oh yeah i'm an irc operator, so it's useful for that reason too to keep logs.
....250 years ago Bwizopp Gnis'uen, a famous martian scientist came up with an idea how to colonize that cold blue planet.
"This great plan will allow us to finally colonize that pesky blue planet and in the meantime allows us to get rid of that ape infestation over there.
It would be hugely expensive to invade, so the brilliance of the plan is to let those apes do it for us. They will never suspect a thing.
All we have to do is to tell them about the huge reserves of so called "oil" in the ground. The timing is crucial, because if we would tell them too late, they would discover a much easier way to generate energy. That would be a disaster, but it won't happen. When they realise what's going on it will be too late already."
How does it have more functionality than irc? It has _different_ functionality.
Being a bitlbee user, i'm redirecting all of my IM traffic to IRC anyway, for convenience reasons, so i really don't get what's your point. I was just trying to highlight the fact that for a lot of people a protocol created 17 years ago perfectly does the job, or does the job better.
Totally agreed. This is why i flame my isp with all the front i've got. According to that recent zombie report they are the fourth most zombie infested isp in the world (not in sheer numbers but in the ratio of infected / non-infected). They still don't give a shit about it. I would consider it necessary to perform some anti-infected machine checks on the network and disconnect those with infections so that MY service/connection would improve. I'm not worried about viruses on my linux box, but when i see 1500-2000 bots pounding my webserver from MY OWN home ISP alone (note, i got my dedi at a different company) then i'm starting to get pissed.
They can't even say that they couldn't invest in some simple antivirus-on-network thing because they had tens of millions of euro profit on 600k users last year and this one is projected to be even better.
I realise, that it's not my isp's fault alone, but they significantly contribute. Users cannot be fixed, they are just stupid en-masse. Windows doesn't have a huge tendency to improve either. The ISP owns their own network which happens to be part of the internet, so they should at least take some responsibility for that small part they have actually control over.
...advocated by enviromentalists and peace activists to defend their position. Perens is right, that the means are wrong although i do not agree with his numbers.
Open source advocates should lobby for no software patents, because by using the "enemy's" weapon it validates it. Do not give credibility to patents, lobby against them.
Clearly you're talking out of your ass. Slashdot is going downhill lately and with all that Apple fanboyism around i'm seeing outright stupid comments moderated up to high sky.
Even your sig irritates me, Python would be alright if not the whitespace shit.
If anyone reads what i was writing: i'm not trolling merely f*cking fed up with it. Every time there is a discussion on slashdot about linux, the kernel, half of the idiots speak out of their asses. It was like this when Linux development switched from bittorrent, etc.
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Prepare for "life" by beating obedience and sheep mentality into the children? Sad...
I sincerely hope there will be some deterrent from schools suing children for these reasons in the future.
Oh some rednecks lost their sense of humour?
Reminds me next time that you can joke about everything except republicans, in the name of fairness and avoiding hypocrisy.
Republicans point to the plan already in progress, as a rare and not so smart chimpanzee is already taken care of by a team of adviso^Wexperts in Washington D.C.
What's stopping you from continuing to use Perl5 after Perl6 is out? Nothing...
say "I for "_++$one_", welcome our Perl6 overlords."
(P.S.: the "say" function is a new thing in Perl6)
Please do not moderate parent up, because it's just a guess at most.
Perl6 is actually built from user feedback, for the first time.
From wikipedia: Larry Wall, the creator of Perl, has called Perl 6 "the community's rewrite of Perl", because he has based the changes largely on 361 "requests for comments" submitted by the Perl community in 2000. He is outlining these changes in a series of long essays, called Apocalypses, which are numbered to correspond to chapters in Programming Perl ("The Camel Book"). The current, unfinalized, specification of Perl 6 is encapsulated in design documents called Synopses, which are numbered to correspond to Apocalyses.
Parent is NOT insightful.
That's weird.
I thought electrons go the other way around too down there...
I kid, i kid...
One of the examples i forgot to mention is for example about the sale of traffic.
The ISP arm ended up paying the telco arm after traffic, not after bandwith, which means they are basically not losing anything since it's between two arms of the same company, but it will force other companies to do the same in the immediate future instead of paying after bandwidth.
I've seen it happen in my native country, Hungary, when a monopoly telecommunication company was split up this way.
The ISP arm ends up swallowing loss and unfavorable conditions while milking the consumers, and passes the revenue to the telco arm. This makes competition have a very hard time and the government ends up shrugging. Do not have a false sense of success just yet, dear australians. This won't work and your government knows that.
Agreed. Olympics disgusts me as it is now.
It is supposed to be a celebration of humanity, freedom and human skills and instead of it is a huge stinking, steroiding business, which tries to enact stupid laws about prohibiting citizens to say simple words.
How dares any organization claim ownership over the Olympic games? How dares that organization sell business rights related to the Olympic Games?
I would even question the amount of _donations_ which should be allowed at the Olympic Games because it is supposed to be not commercial. That's right: now fucking advertisments, official sponsors, etc.
Geez, this stupid law pissed me off. If people let this, all hope is lost for this planet, seriously. This is just the pinaccle of stupidity on the side of humanity. We're stupid if we're letting us to centralize our life around a tool: money. It has absolutely no value, it is just supposed to be a tool making trade possible. Our freedom matters much more.
You are well aware that base research is not performed by corporate interest right?
The USA's government heavily founded base research in the 60s and early 70s mostly because of the sputnik shock. The current electronical achievments are directly related to that research period, most of what we have in electronics as of today is a refining of those discoveries. The research stopped because of the increased costs, which is at least partially attributed to the oil crisis. Corporate science is refining, not discovering. There is also the very interesting subject of the japanese miracle: that they managed to be one of the leading technological innovators from a post WW2 losing nation with no industry whatsoever. In the 40-50s they bought second hand technology and refined that and sold the product. In the 60-70s they aquired quite recent technology and refined that, but the USA's economy didn't feel the pressure from japanese electrical products that much, because the USA was doing base research. In the 80-90s Japan developed cutting edge technology from their previous research and managed to be the pioneers in electronics, and the USA couldn't compete any more effectively because the USA no longer had the superiority in technology. There is also an interesting aspect of japanese efficiency which is mainly due to lacking resources on their islands. It forces and forced them to be efficient with resources.
There is also the difference in corporate spirit. The so called 7 dwarfs, the 7 largest companies in japan actively cooperate with the government in dividing up research and sharing it with each other. They kind of think long term. With that spirit in the recent years they are able to perform base research aswell, albeit not that huge scale like in the 70s in the USA.
My whole point with this huge historical perspective is that american corporatism did not drive technological innovation, it drived technological refining and that's a very different thing. The technological innovation stopped in the 70s and it is recently picked up by the Japanese and EU.
I only answered half of the topic yet: it is alright that corporatism doesn't drive scientific progress, but then why does a treaty do that?
The treaty's goal is to try to decrease the human factor in global warming. The way it does that is simple: must is a great incentive. Japan was forced to be efficient and that inspired a whole new branch of research into miniaturization and efficiency. Participating countries in the treaty realise that by doing research and sacrificing a short term economic advantage they are gaining a lot in long term, not only by having a livable planet, but by the long term advantages research gives. The treaty is supposed to be an incentive, not a rigid prohibition.
Given these reasons, which i'm sure politicians are aware of it is totally impossible to understand the viewpoint the USA and Australia is taking on this issue. The only possible explanation is very strong corporate influence on the politics, and that is kind of well documented both in the case of the Bush administration and aswell with Howard.
Please take a look at what wikipedia says about the issue aswell.
Oh yea, here is the link about it.
Normally you would be right, but now you're banging open doors. CmdrTaco and others are actively working on a new CSS-using formatting of slashdot.
# du -hs irclogs/
767M irclogs/
It is extremely useful for me to have all these logs, i need those on a weekly basis at least with thousands of little tidbits of info. However, i would never let google log all these details, it would quite possible include most things there is to know about me.
Oh yeah i'm an irc operator, so it's useful for that reason too to keep logs.
Hey man, i got a cheap flat earth theory to sell, you seem to be interested.
....250 years ago Bwizopp Gnis'uen, a famous martian scientist came up with an idea how to colonize that cold blue planet.
"This great plan will allow us to finally colonize that pesky blue planet and in the meantime allows us to get rid of that ape infestation over there.
It would be hugely expensive to invade, so the brilliance of the plan is to let those apes do it for us. They will never suspect a thing.
All we have to do is to tell them about the huge reserves of so called "oil" in the ground. The timing is crucial, because if we would tell them too late, they would discover a much easier way to generate energy. That would be a disaster, but it won't happen. When they realise what's going on it will be too late already."
Ok, let's skip your attitude.
How does it have more functionality than irc? It has _different_ functionality.
Being a bitlbee user, i'm redirecting all of my IM traffic to IRC anyway, for convenience reasons, so i really don't get what's your point. I was just trying to highlight the fact that for a lot of people a protocol created 17 years ago perfectly does the job, or does the job better.
and IRC from 1988 still beats them hands down.
Real science is what you've described.
Commercialized science is not science, just refining.
Surely there must be another ISP in your region, even if it's more expensive.
No there isn't. Also, if BT managed to do it (which is a huge monopoly) then my isp could do it too.
Totally agreed. This is why i flame my isp with all the front i've got. According to that recent zombie report they are the fourth most zombie infested isp in the world (not in sheer numbers but in the ratio of infected / non-infected). They still don't give a shit about it. I would consider it necessary to perform some anti-infected machine checks on the network and disconnect those with infections so that MY service/connection would improve. I'm not worried about viruses on my linux box, but when i see 1500-2000 bots pounding my webserver from MY OWN home ISP alone (note, i got my dedi at a different company) then i'm starting to get pissed.
They can't even say that they couldn't invest in some simple antivirus-on-network thing because they had tens of millions of euro profit on 600k users last year and this one is projected to be even better.
I realise, that it's not my isp's fault alone, but they significantly contribute. Users cannot be fixed, they are just stupid en-masse. Windows doesn't have a huge tendency to improve either. The ISP owns their own network which happens to be part of the internet, so they should at least take some responsibility for that small part they have actually control over.
...advocated by enviromentalists and peace activists to defend their position. Perens is right, that the means are wrong although i do not agree with his numbers.
Open source advocates should lobby for no software patents, because by using the "enemy's" weapon it validates it. Do not give credibility to patents, lobby against them.
This may be shocking to hear, but summaries are not supposed to tell the whole story.
Anyway, how is a librarian's responsibility to track whether a computer user is a sex offender or not?
You must be new here.
If this is tasteless jokes day anyway, mod parent funny!
Clearly you're talking out of your ass. Slashdot is going downhill lately and with all that Apple fanboyism around i'm seeing outright stupid comments moderated up to high sky.
Even your sig irritates me, Python would be alright if not the whitespace shit.
If anyone reads what i was writing: i'm not trolling merely f*cking fed up with it. Every time there is a discussion on slashdot about linux, the kernel, half of the idiots speak out of their asses. It was like this when Linux development switched from bittorrent, etc.
OSX is just a nice gui on a BSD kernel.