Note that frogs are more intelligent than people. They will jump out of the pot even when the temperature only rises slowly. Snopes Wow. The one time I don't check...
I bow to the power of Snopes.
Regardless the idea of the government slowly "turning up the heat" on it's citizens still holds. I guess that makes a lot of us dumber than frogs right?;-)
How about you just tell us what you're talking about, instead of telling us to do a search on Google? If you want us to see your point of view, make an argument, not demand a web search. I see two reasons:
1) Explaining takes a lot of time and in this case the explanation has been stated many many times and should be fairly common knowledge to the average Slashdot user.
2) Sending people to look up a piece of data on their own forces them to find the answers for themselves rather than having them spoon fed as is quite common in the current US society. (And other places from what I hear.)
Oh and the boiling frog reference?
When cooking a frog live you put it in a cold pot of water and heat it slowly and the frog doesn't notice the temperature change until it's too late. If you were to just put it in the hot water it would jump out and thus be harder to cook.
I'm going to go ahead and guess the violations resulting in a "raid" were far more egregious than your example. More like, say- the company I used to work for that bought a single license of Office 2000 and installed it on 150 users' machines. Had we been busted, I would hardly describe it as a good customer getting screwed because of paperwork. Sorry but in more than one place I've worked the management at the time got info from the other small businesses that got raided. (Customers, suppliers, etc.) The majority of them were raided either because of a disgruntled employee snitching to the BSA or because the business in question was stupid enough to answer one of the BSA's infamous letters and tell told them that they were "in compliance and did not need their services".
Either way in a lot of cases the Bullsh!t Stealing Alliance raided them and hosed them seriously for minor infractions.
The only ones that didn't get hosed were the ones that up and paid a fine outright. Sound familiar?
You're probably correct but the data still stands.
As to an ISP that doesn't use an AT&T backbone? That's a tough one. MCI is still doing things but I think they're doing pretty much MPLS over the AT&T lines.
Is there a half-way decent ISP that you could go through that wouldn't go through AT&T?
Not as long as you want to access a server on their networks. It'd be nice to use this to force servers to move off their network but it's highly unlikely.
Even if we managed to create a country-wide wireless mesh there would likely still be some content you'd need to access on their backbone.
What's needed here is actual enforcement and real penalties for bad corporate behavior because from what I can see the Internet can not route around this one...
Does Speakeasy offer DSL in your area? That's what I did until I could go with RCN. Speakeasy DSL costs more, but they have highly technically skilled customer support people, an expectation that their customers run servers, and a rock-solid network. I highly recommend them.
Your packets will still likely go through an AT&T network and thus still be inspected.
Because AT&T is so large this will affect a good chunk of the Internet - especially US networks.
Hell their backbone runs the entire length of the us.
This map is from 2000 so it's probably much more invasive now:
I'm not entirely sure about differentiating between corporate and individual copyright, since it seems that corporations will just designate individuals to own the copyrights and then sign an exclusive license for the exploitation rights to those copyrights. That's a very good point. In fact since US corporations are treated as "people" under most laws then said fee would have to apply to all involved.
And in all honesty I seen no reason to differentiate though I did not state so previously.
For corporate copyrights, 5 years is fine. Maybe a fee to continue the copyright for 5 year increments beyond that (to encourage continue publication of the media as long as it is copyrighted, and public-domaining as soon as it isn't profitable). Corporations are too abusive to give long copyrights too.
Individual copyrights for 10-20 years are fine, IMO. It forces the corporations to answer to the artists if they want to save on copyright fees, and the artists will probably be more considerate to the consumers.
I'm all for an extension fee but make it non-trivial in cost for corporations AND make it geometrically progressive so that they can't just keep paying the fee forever.
Because you know as long as they can pay a small amount to retain their stranglehold they will do so.
Regardless, what Apple is doing is not very bright in my opinion. Parody is still fairly well protected despite the best efforts of big business/government to remove that protection and it says FAKE right in the title... Yes, but that's not why it's stupid. It's stupid because Apple has long tried to market itself as different than MS, more progressive than MS, and honestly, until relatively recently they've done a damn fine job of it. But each time they choose to do this sort of thing, like the iphones only for credit card, putting off the next version of OSX for the iphone, threatening to brick the unlocked iphones then bricking them along with the still locked ones and now trying to shut down fake Steve Jobs in a questionable (at best) way, they lose a bit of good will, and they run the risk of further alienating the core faithful that kept them in business even during that period where they're computers weren't as good as the competition.
So, yes this being a parody does factor into it, but mainly because Mac users expect that Apple will respect the creativity of its user base and the whole industry around it. Indeed. There's no arguing that Apple is shooting itself in the foot with things like this. And frankly it's been going on too long for me to discount it as one "hand" in the company not knowing what the "other hand" is doing.
I'll continue to use Apple products because quite frankly they seem quite a few steps up from all the misc. generic/brand name PC stuff I've used over the years. This current snafu doesn't phase me really.
But if they keep doing this whole "foot shooting" thing then it's conceivable that they could end up in the iCrapper and have to produce the same horrible PC hardware as everybody else just to survive. And in my opinion that would be a damn shame and a waste of what is a pretty good company overall.
I don't get why Apple bothers with this. If they bribe this guy to shut down, they have to bribe the next guy who startsup a blog about apple secrets, and the next guy, and the next guy. Do they think these people have super powers and once they're gone, their secrets are safe? I do believe you've not only described the results of paying off people who blackmail others but have also given us a new business model to pursue...
TIme to start up an "Apple Secretz" blog.;-)
Regardless, what Apple is doing is not very bright in my opinion. Parody is still fairly well protected despite the best efforts of big business/government to remove that protection and it says FAKE right in the title...
Wasn't me posting, but here's how I see it:
by robinsonne (952701) Alter Relationship on Saturday December 22, @12:09PM (#21791528)
by WhatAmIDoingHere (742870) * Alter Relationship on Saturday December 22, @11:25AM (#21791214)
Given that the first 5 digits are the same:
528 - 214 = 314.
This should get me that job in the other article. You fail. The subject was USER ids not POST numbers.
Ah, screw political correctness. Back in my day, you'd have been called a freak, and rightfully so, and you had to come through snow this high just to hear that you're a freak, and you'd have been thankful for that...*muttermumblegrumblespoiledyoungones*. In MY day you'd walk 20 miles in the snow that's this high to BECOME a freak!
Furthermore, any form of network or P2P encryption currently in use ought to be able to defeat this.
"Unauthorized" protocols are even easier to filter and block. Attempts to defeat these mechanisms will be dealt with harshly. Fear will keep the local systems in line...
On topic here I'm truly hoping this will spur enough people to start creating a wireless mesh network in large areas to bypass all this stuff. Enough people do that then at least in terms of being able to get to the content, not speed mind you, it would make AT&T's attempt at blocking rather irrelevant.
Somebody here want to figure out how to run a DD-WRT hacked Fonera router from off-the-grid power?:-)
Education of the end user IS the ultimate goal, but not education in computer skills. The XO laptop is a learning tool, and is likened by its creators to a "pencil". Their goal is to give each child in the developing world their own "pencil" to create with. No one will be reconfiguring their kernels on these things. Nobody said they would. What was said was that because these things are not Microsoft then they are wrong.
To go with your pencil analogy here it doesn't matter if you use a Ticonderoga or a Rotring mechanical - it's still a tool to learn with.
When you've learned more and you can make a choice then pick the pencil that suits you. But until then the "pencils" being handed out will suffice in these cases - because the students have no "pencil" at all.
As evil as they are, MS is the de facto standard. If you don't know windows you're missing a key skill to join the technology work force. Giving a bunch of kids a one-off linux based laptop leaves out critical skills.
And the way to change the landscape is to get people used to using something different in a place where there isn't a de facto standard. Or $diety forbid teach them to think and learn so that they can make the choice themselves as to what OS to use when their country becomes less technology challenged.
Or is education of the end-user not the ultimate goal here?
But be warned: don't read the technical paper itself. It could win an obfuscated contest -- if such a contest existed for scientific papers.
An obfuscated contest or a contest for obfuscation? The fomer would be difficult to figure out, while the latter would reward entries that are difficult to figure out.
So that would be a Perl contest with government funding rules then?
Slashdot Mirror
That would be Kohei Minato.
I bow to the power of Snopes.
Regardless the idea of the government slowly "turning up the heat" on it's citizens still holds. I guess that makes a lot of us dumber than frogs right?
In other words, don't accuse the government — it just follows the people's wishes...
The people in this case being Big Business(tm) and Rich People(tm).Though I will agree that we've certainly done this to ourselves.
1) Explaining takes a lot of time and in this case the explanation has been stated many many times and should be fairly common knowledge to the average Slashdot user.
2) Sending people to look up a piece of data on their own forces them to find the answers for themselves rather than having them spoon fed as is quite common in the current US society. (And other places from what I hear.)
Oh and the boiling frog reference?
When cooking a frog live you put it in a cold pot of water and heat it slowly and the frog doesn't notice the temperature change until it's too late. If you were to just put it in the hot water it would jump out and thus be harder to cook.
The US gooberment is boiling frogs as we speak...
Either way in a lot of cases the Bullsh!t Stealing Alliance raided them and hosed them seriously for minor infractions.
The only ones that didn't get hosed were the ones that up and paid a fine outright. Sound familiar?
You're probably correct but the data still stands.
As to an ISP that doesn't use an AT&T backbone? That's a tough one. MCI is still doing things but I think they're doing pretty much MPLS over the AT&T lines.
Not as long as you want to access a server on their networks. It'd be nice to use this to force servers to move off their network but it's highly unlikely.
Even if we managed to create a country-wide wireless mesh there would likely still be some content you'd need to access on their backbone.
What's needed here is actual enforcement and real penalties for bad corporate behavior because from what I can see the Internet can not route around this one...
Your packets will still likely go through an AT&T network and thus still be inspected.
Because AT&T is so large this will affect a good chunk of the Internet - especially US networks.
Hell their backbone runs the entire length of the us.
This map is from 2000 so it's probably much more invasive now:
http://www.cybergeography.org/atlas/att_backbone_large.gif
And in all honesty I seen no reason to differentiate though I did not state so previously.
Individual copyrights for 10-20 years are fine, IMO. It forces the corporations to answer to the artists if they want to save on copyright fees, and the artists will probably be more considerate to the consumers.
I'm all for an extension fee but make it non-trivial in cost for corporations AND make it geometrically progressive so that they can't just keep paying the fee forever.
Because you know as long as they can pay a small amount to retain their stranglehold they will do so.
So, yes this being a parody does factor into it, but mainly because Mac users expect that Apple will respect the creativity of its user base and the whole industry around it. Indeed. There's no arguing that Apple is shooting itself in the foot with things like this. And frankly it's been going on too long for me to discount it as one "hand" in the company not knowing what the "other hand" is doing.
I'll continue to use Apple products because quite frankly they seem quite a few steps up from all the misc. generic/brand name PC stuff I've used over the years. This current snafu doesn't phase me really.
But if they keep doing this whole "foot shooting" thing then it's conceivable that they could end up in the iCrapper and have to produce the same horrible PC hardware as everybody else just to survive. And in my opinion that would be a damn shame and a waste of what is a pretty good company overall.
I do believe you've not only described the results of paying off people who blackmail others but have also given us a new business model to pursue...
TIme to start up an "Apple Secretz" blog.
Regardless, what Apple is doing is not very bright in my opinion. Parody is still fairly well protected despite the best efforts of big business/government to remove that protection and it says FAKE right in the title...
*pulls out geek card*
*punches a hole in it*
A demerit off my card for missing the point. My bad,
by robinsonne (952701) Alter Relationship on Saturday December 22, @12:09PM (#21791528)
by WhatAmIDoingHere (742870) * Alter Relationship on Saturday December 22, @11:25AM (#21791214)
Given that the first 5 digits are the same:
528 - 214 = 314.
This should get me that job in the other article. You fail. The subject was USER ids not POST numbers.
"Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads..." Referencing TFA a slightly different movie joke comes to mind:
"Rods? We don't need no stinking rods!"
And be thankful for the privilege!
Get off my lawn ya whippersnapper!
*ahem*
Ok...I'll just get my hat...
1Gb is really old? My first hard drive was a 20 meg Seagate. Damn. I'm old.
Of course that doesn't beat the first computer I ever had any contact with. The IBM 5100:
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/pc/pc_2.html
My father was a programmer and he actually had one in the apartment.
Mmmm...Wumpus in IBM BASIC off the tape drive...good times...
"Unauthorized" protocols are even easier to filter and block. Attempts to defeat these mechanisms will be dealt with harshly. Fear will keep the local systems in line...
On topic here I'm truly hoping this will spur enough people to start creating a wireless mesh network in large areas to bypass all this stuff. Enough people do that then at least in terms of being able to get to the content, not speed mind you, it would make AT&T's attempt at blocking rather irrelevant.
Somebody here want to figure out how to run a DD-WRT hacked Fonera router from off-the-grid power?
To go with your pencil analogy here it doesn't matter if you use a Ticonderoga or a Rotring mechanical - it's still a tool to learn with.
When you've learned more and you can make a choice then pick the pencil that suits you. But until then the "pencils" being handed out will suffice in these cases - because the students have no "pencil" at all.
And the way to change the landscape is to get people used to using something different in a place where there isn't a de facto standard. Or $diety forbid teach them to think and learn so that they can make the choice themselves as to what OS to use when their country becomes less technology challenged.
Or is education of the end-user not the ultimate goal here?
An obfuscated contest or a contest for obfuscation? The fomer would be difficult to figure out, while the latter would reward entries that are difficult to figure out.
So that would be a Perl contest with government funding rules then?*ba-dum! ching!*
I'll get my hat...
Sorry if you thought I was trolling, wasn't my intention. No problem.
But from my point of view if you get a decompressive failure at the speed those tubes are intended to be traveled at it probably _will_ be explosive.