The question mark wasn't a typo. You may find it to be a common rhetorical device used in spoken American English. I apologize if that was unclear.
Please provide an example of how the implementation of licensing today is creating second class citizens or some other kind of caste society. If this is in fact the case, then I will stand firmly on your side of the issue.
Wow, that's, like, 5 minutes late. You're really off your game lately. This must be the sixth article I've read today where the first few posts were actually relevant and interesting.
Also known as assuming Jill Schmoe is a criminal attempting to use social engineering to gain illegal access to a municipal government's network because she's asking for passwords to systems without providing any kind of valid authorization for the rights to said passwords.
But, hey, she's a girl and he's a guy. Obviously he was the only conceivable threat in this situation.
Firstly, thank you for your well-worded and intelligent response. Unfortunately, it was the "transmitting copyrighted material over a computer network is not necessarily copyright infringement" part that I was getting at there. Isn't that just making a copy, regardless of what the specific protocol is?
If I invent a replicator and make an exact, atom by atom copy (yes, this would be impossible space magic, just go with me here) of something with a copyright on it, is that copyright infringement?
If yes, then how can an exact digital copy of a series of 1's and 0's with a copyright on them not be copyright infringement?
Note: this wasn't really the conclusion I was aiming for... stupid thought experiment...
The scary part is that it doesn't have any of the torrents I've actually downloaded in the past few days, like BT4 which was a huge swarm and came in at like 3 MB/s.
No, I'm not. I'm just trying to be polite and give you an opportunity to explain your extremely bizarre concern for the freedom to be totally irresponsible and unsafe.
A license for operating a computer is no different from one for operating a car, and the financial damage one can do to themselves or others is very similar. After correcting for the likelihood of said damage, I'd say access to the internet can probably be less financially safe.
The only possible exception in equating the two systems is that some countries now consider internet access a human right. It is not considered such in the US, so that argument is inapplicable here.
MP3 is a container which contains MP3 encoded audio. Likewise, Ogg Vorbis is Vorbis encoded audio in an Ogg container. The container tells your media player what type of data stream is in there, and provides various rudimentary features for different applications. A raw Vorbis audio stream would be incomprehensible if you start playing it from the middle without a container. As someone else has suggested, it'd be like trying to untar a tarball starting from the middle without knowing where the files are. Or trying to read a file of a disk without looking at the metadata. You need the container or the data is just 1's and 0's.
No, all these licenses simply prevent people who shouldn't be doing things from doing them. I don't see how this creates a tiered social class structure at all, unless you consider truckers to be better than you because they have a license you could get with proper training.
I don't smoke pot, or support casual drug use of any kind, but I also don't support wasting tax payer money to fill our jails with non-violent criminals who are a danger only to themselves.
Like they do with driver's licenses, and truck licenses, and nuclear power plant licenses, and fishing licenses and all those other licenses that are misused to create a caste society, right?
As a side note, someone brought this up. It suggests that he was required to release the passwords only to responsible security folks, a category under which his direct seniors did not fall. So there was some kind of policy involved here, which he was technically following.
Of course, scary slippery slope is scary none the less.
I'd like to see this law. The prosecution has painted it as Childs own choice to release the passwords only to the Mayor, not in any policy or anything. That part might just be a Slashdot myth, it's not clear.
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Nuclear power is a terrible plan! When that fuel runs out in, like, 100 years, those windmills will still be... rusted to dust 80 years ago... hmm...
"We wanted to build the church on an ancient Indian burial ground, but none were available in the area. We had to have it imported from Nantucket."
The question mark wasn't a typo. You may find it to be a common rhetorical device used in spoken American English. I apologize if that was unclear.
Please provide an example of how the implementation of licensing today is creating second class citizens or some other kind of caste society. If this is in fact the case, then I will stand firmly on your side of the issue.
Actually, this is the best thing I've read on the subject, by far.
Wow, that's, like, 5 minutes late. You're really off your game lately. This must be the sixth article I've read today where the first few posts were actually relevant and interesting.
Don't worry, when someone types in your password, it's all starred out for them. Only you can read it. See, here's what mine looks like: hunter2.
Also known as assuming Jill Schmoe is a criminal attempting to use social engineering to gain illegal access to a municipal government's network because she's asking for passwords to systems without providing any kind of valid authorization for the rights to said passwords.
But, hey, she's a girl and he's a guy. Obviously he was the only conceivable threat in this situation.
These are pretty good.
Here is the policy. I believe the relevant section (page 32) only really applies to user passwords, not system-level stuff.
Firstly, thank you for your well-worded and intelligent response. Unfortunately, it was the "transmitting copyrighted material over a computer network is not necessarily copyright infringement" part that I was getting at there. Isn't that just making a copy, regardless of what the specific protocol is?
Here's a thought experiment:
If I invent a replicator and make an exact, atom by atom copy (yes, this would be impossible space magic, just go with me here) of something with a copyright on it, is that copyright infringement?
If yes, then how can an exact digital copy of a series of 1's and 0's with a copyright on them not be copyright infringement?
Note: this wasn't really the conclusion I was aiming for... stupid thought experiment...
No, it means their conclusion is highly flawed. Or, at least, 2obvious4u's interpretation of their conclusion.
The scary part is that it doesn't have any of the torrents I've actually downloaded in the past few days, like BT4 which was a huge swarm and came in at like 3 MB/s.
No, I'm not. I'm just trying to be polite and give you an opportunity to explain your extremely bizarre concern for the freedom to be totally irresponsible and unsafe.
A license for operating a computer is no different from one for operating a car, and the financial damage one can do to themselves or others is very similar. After correcting for the likelihood of said damage, I'd say access to the internet can probably be less financially safe.
The only possible exception in equating the two systems is that some countries now consider internet access a human right. It is not considered such in the US, so that argument is inapplicable here.
I'm sorry that I don't think 12 year old should have the legal right to drive semi-trucks and open their own nuclear power plants?
MP3 is a container which contains MP3 encoded audio. Likewise, Ogg Vorbis is Vorbis encoded audio in an Ogg container. The container tells your media player what type of data stream is in there, and provides various rudimentary features for different applications. A raw Vorbis audio stream would be incomprehensible if you start playing it from the middle without a container. As someone else has suggested, it'd be like trying to untar a tarball starting from the middle without knowing where the files are. Or trying to read a file of a disk without looking at the metadata. You need the container or the data is just 1's and 0's.
No, all these licenses simply prevent people who shouldn't be doing things from doing them. I don't see how this creates a tiered social class structure at all, unless you consider truckers to be better than you because they have a license you could get with proper training.
No reason not to use it.
Except that your cell phone probably takes better pictures.
I don't smoke pot, or support casual drug use of any kind, but I also don't support wasting tax payer money to fill our jails with non-violent criminals who are a danger only to themselves.
Ever notice how people remember posters by their sigs and not their names?
I don't know about you, 3*11^2*1811, but I remember people by the prime factorization of their UIDs.
- 2*7*58733
Like they do with driver's licenses, and truck licenses, and nuclear power plant licenses, and fishing licenses and all those other licenses that are misused to create a caste society, right?
It's funny because I just came across the same thing a few moments ago, see? Thank you muchly, nonetheless!
Taking that a step further, they could sandbox all internet apps into a VM, and just wipe that if it gets virus-y.
As a side note, someone brought this up. It suggests that he was required to release the passwords only to responsible security folks, a category under which his direct seniors did not fall. So there was some kind of policy involved here, which he was technically following.
Of course, scary slippery slope is scary none the less.
I'd like to see this law. The prosecution has painted it as Childs own choice to release the passwords only to the Mayor, not in any policy or anything. That part might just be a Slashdot myth, it's not clear.