I'd agree with you on the parents issue. However, as gov't is becoming more paternalistic towards children, it only follows that everyone is going to have to take a larger responsiblity in ensuring children aren't exposed to this type of contect as well.
Again, not saying I agree. Simply saying the groundwork is being laid (or has already been).
The supreme court just ruled that minors are not totally responsible for their own actions.... at least not to the extent that adults are.
If we accept this logic, then we must also accept the conclusion that minors should not be exposed to influences that might cause them to go "over the edge".
I am not saying I agree with the SD decision, but one must have consistent logic...
As I mentioned in another thread, this is MUCH different than trying to uniquely identify a person based upon an image. All the phone needs to do is see if the image COULD be you with a moderately high degree of certainty. A heavy white man who mugs a small black woman would not pass this test. This is not intended to be an absolute guarantee it is you... simply remove a whole lot of people from being able to use your phone.
Contrast this with criminal prosecution intent: I must prove this image is not of the other 4,999 guys who fit a very close image profile.
Do they really need to be? Unlike usage for criminal prosecution, this doesn't have to be near 100%. If you can make it good enough to reject 99% of the population as being you, then the odds of a mugger using your phone are about 1%. That would dramatically reduce theft of phones.
Your money has not been backed by gold in quite a long time.... 1933 in fact. Unless you are from some the U.K.... then it stopped in 1931. Some countries continued to stay on the gold standard until about 1970. I am not aware of any country still on a gold (or other precious metal) standard.
The value of your money pretty much floats on a supply/demand curve like the music that people choose to "copy" without compensation.
If I am caught up in the fallacy of : "if it is illegal, it is theft". Then everyone else is caught up in "if it's not theft, it must be moral"...
I do not believe I am incorrect, however. The reason counterfeiting is illegal is because it is an indirect form of theft. Otherwise, all I am doing is "duplicating" money... Let's take away the word "theft". If I print my own money, I have hurt the rest of society. I cannot point to any one person and show how they have been harmed, but I have harmed society as a whole. When I "duplicate" someones work without compensation as others have to, I have harmed those folks. No amount of careful word choosing makes it any different.
If you don't want to pay for music... fine. You do not have to listen to it. I pay for the ten or so songs per year that I think are worth paying for.
Its theft. Get over it. When I use my printing press to print money, I am guilt of counterfeiting. However, I have stolen a microscopic amount of money from every person with that currency. I may not be charged with "theft", but I am a thief. In the same way, when a portion of folks take someting they are not entitled to, it drives up the cost to those who do so legally.
I agree with the two anonymous coward posters who got modded into oblivion. No one forces you to buy anthing, so I can't see how they "ripped you off enough". You are simply rationalizing your theft. Much like an employee who "suplements his unfair pay" by stealing from his company.
Yea. I do see how some mods are. I like to burn my karma once in a while when I see abuse like this. Take a look at the modding now... the guy actually has a flamebait attached to the comment. A perfectly innocent, obvious statement, and it is flamebait. My statement WAS flamebait. It deserved a flamebait...
Mods: Please mod this one down as well... it will be one less mod point you have to do damage elsewhere.
What the hell does it say for slashdot that this nonsense made it to their "news" pages? Just what kind of far out shit has CmdrTaco been smoking lately? Doesn't he even bother to check these things out before he posts them? Or even to read the frickin thread? Too funny.
btw..thanks to p2pforums for letting me rip their idea.
I can still hear the Zelda 'combat music' in my head at times. It certainly isn't because it is good.
To be fair to FF... the music is good for video games. But, I condsider it to be wanna-be classical for the most part (at least the older FF... been a very long time...)
Granted, with the repetition of old ideas in the top 40 countdown today, FF might be a step up from what most are used to listening to:)
If more lives are saved than lost, what do you care if a few embryos were harvested for this treatment.
I don't. Did I ever say I was opposed to embryonic stem cell research or federal funding for it? No? Ok then.
Damn. I am amazed at how stupid the people are around here. So, the experiments on Jews in concentration camps are justified as long as more people benefit than suffered.
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I'd agree with you on the parents issue. However, as gov't is becoming more paternalistic towards children, it only follows that everyone is going to have to take a larger responsiblity in ensuring children aren't exposed to this type of contect as well. Again, not saying I agree. Simply saying the groundwork is being laid (or has already been).
The supreme court just ruled that minors are not totally responsible for their own actions.... at least not to the extent that adults are.
If we accept this logic, then we must also accept the conclusion that minors should not be exposed to influences that might cause them to go "over the edge".
I am not saying I agree with the SD decision, but one must have consistent logic...
Can you cite a source?
As I mentioned in another thread, this is MUCH different than trying to uniquely identify a person based upon an image. All the phone needs to do is see if the image COULD be you with a moderately high degree of certainty. A heavy white man who mugs a small black woman would not pass this test. This is not intended to be an absolute guarantee it is you... simply remove a whole lot of people from being able to use your phone.
Contrast this with criminal prosecution intent: I must prove this image is not of the other 4,999 guys who fit a very close image profile.
Do they really need to be? Unlike usage for criminal prosecution, this doesn't have to be near 100%. If you can make it good enough to reject 99% of the population as being you, then the odds of a mugger using your phone are about 1%. That would dramatically reduce theft of phones.
Yea. Those muggers always take the time to analyze your technology, realize that you need facial-recognition, then say "cheese, sucker".
:)
No security technology is foolproof. None. However, if it works as advertized, it is a nice security feature.
Not that I use a cell phone... I don't want people to find me at the drop of a hat
Hate to break this to you, but I got his joke the first time, without explanation.
Your money has not been backed by gold in quite a long time.... 1933 in fact. Unless you are from some the U.K.... then it stopped in 1931. Some countries continued to stay on the gold standard until about 1970. I am not aware of any country still on a gold (or other precious metal) standard.
The value of your money pretty much floats on a supply/demand curve like the music that people choose to "copy" without compensation.
Isn't that sweet? Your mom is still packing you lunches. Let me guess: 'Starwars with Luke and R2D2' on the front?
The smae way my printing money devalues your money even though you did not pay for my printing press.
If I am caught up in the fallacy of : "if it is illegal, it is theft". Then everyone else is caught up in "if it's not theft, it must be moral"...
I do not believe I am incorrect, however. The reason counterfeiting is illegal is because it is an indirect form of theft. Otherwise, all I am doing is "duplicating" money... Let's take away the word "theft". If I print my own money, I have hurt the rest of society. I cannot point to any one person and show how they have been harmed, but I have harmed society as a whole. When I "duplicate" someones work without compensation as others have to, I have harmed those folks. No amount of careful word choosing makes it any different.
If you don't want to pay for music... fine. You do not have to listen to it. I pay for the ten or so songs per year that I think are worth paying for.
I prefer to waste karma :)
Its theft. Get over it. When I use my printing press to print money, I am guilt of counterfeiting. However, I have stolen a microscopic amount of money from every person with that currency. I may not be charged with "theft", but I am a thief. In the same way, when a portion of folks take someting they are not entitled to, it drives up the cost to those who do so legally.
You are a thief.
I agree with the two anonymous coward posters who got modded into oblivion. No one forces you to buy anthing, so I can't see how they "ripped you off enough". You are simply rationalizing your theft. Much like an employee who "suplements his unfair pay" by stealing from his company.
Yea. I do see how some mods are. I like to burn my karma once in a while when I see abuse like this. Take a look at the modding now... the guy actually has a flamebait attached to the comment. A perfectly innocent, obvious statement, and it is flamebait. My statement WAS flamebait. It deserved a flamebait...
Mods: Please mod this one down as well... it will be one less mod point you have to do damage elsewhere.
How is this redundant? To the moderator: I offer a crowbar to pry your head out of your rear.
Sorry. Just it is a very common misconception that one is a prime number. Just wanted to set the record straight :)
From the "reporter":
What the hell does it say for slashdot that this nonsense made it to their "news" pages? Just what kind of far out shit has CmdrTaco been smoking lately? Doesn't he even bother to check these things out before he posts them? Or even to read the frickin thread? Too funny.
btw..thanks to p2pforums for letting me rip their idea.
Sorry, that isn't prime. By definition 1 is not prime.
I can still hear the Zelda 'combat music' in my head at times. It certainly isn't because it is good.
:)
To be fair to FF... the music is good for video games. But, I condsider it to be wanna-be classical for the most part (at least the older FF... been a very long time...)
Granted, with the repetition of old ideas in the top 40 countdown today, FF might be a step up from what most are used to listening to
Now, if I could only get Zelda out of my head...
There's no L in Zanarkand But there is in 'Loser!' j/k... but mod me down anyway :)
If more lives are saved than lost, what do you care if a few embryos were harvested for this treatment.
I don't. Did I ever say I was opposed to embryonic stem cell research or federal funding for it? No? Ok then.
Damn. I am amazed at how stupid the people are around here. So, the experiments on Jews in concentration camps are justified as long as more people benefit than suffered.
Not that I disagree. My question :Why in the heck is everyone wating gigs of bandwidth downloading this crap?
Dumb shit. On the one hand, you complain they make too much, on the other hand you just HAVE to watch their movie.
... should be flushed.