I can appriciate what Palm has to offer, and the simplicity behind it's design. However, I'm still in favor of WindowsCE personally. (And I don't care WHAT Microsoft starts calling it, I will still be calling it Windows CE.)
By all means, DON'T think I'm knocking Palm. I'd love to own a Pilot. I just don't think it would be worth my money. I would spend $400, and it would sit in the corner while I tapped on my WinCE devices. Sorry, but that's the way it is. (For Me.)
I'm not supporting Windows on the desktop by any means. I'm a huge fan of Slackware...I Love it. However, in the PDA arena I would have to argue Windows CE over Palm. It just feels like you have so much more at your disposal to use. Multimedia Capabilities, High Color screens, compatibility with other CE devices from Other manufacturers, etc. Sure it's a cost of battery life, but hey - If that's a tradeoff you're willing to accept than do it. I have 3 CE devices, and I use them all.
I own a Cassiopeia A10, and I upgraded the ROM to CE 2.0. It's the usual style upgrade, but I noticed when you tap the screen a lot, after a while the unit refuses any more input from both the keyboard and the screen. The only option is to reset. So I switched back to CE 1.0, and it's fine. That being the case, I'm a bit leery as to the stability of CE 3.0, but we'll have to see.
Don't play his game, don't give him more money until he stops screwing us around.
Let me tell you that George Lucas hasn't gotten a DIME out of me regarding Star Wars. Out of the entire series, I've only seen the first movie once. (NOT the first episode, the first MOVIE.) And that was borrowing it from a friend.
I thought it sucked, so I haven't seen any of the sequels, OR the prequel. Sorry, but that's my opinion.
To all you people who are so mad about this "sudden change of events" (cough)...
Don't you DARE complain.
I predicted this roller coaster. While all this hype over a possible DVD is brewing, it's keeping interest in TPM alive. So people throw out a rumor here....a rebuttal there. The main point is: Nobody Cares! Okay, so if a DVD comes out all you Star Wars fanatics can roll in delight, and talk about how Great it is. If no DVD comes out, you can roll in despair and talk about how great it would have been. Then you can fall back on VHS.
George Lucas is laughing his ass off. He knows what's going on, and he knows it means one thing: MORE MONEY. For every statement that denies that a DVD will come out, X amount of people say "Screw it, I'll just buy the tape." Then another article comes out, and another rebutes THAT one. Then X MORE people buy the tape. the process repeats about 20 or so times, and then the hype dies down. When the hype dies down, there would be only one thing left to do:
Release the standard DVD.
Then, he'll start the whole process over again with the promise of a "Special Edition" DVD. (Or hell, maybe he'll release a "Special Edition" VHS, ride the hype coaster one more time, THEN release the "Special Edition" DVD.)
I remember back in High School, a friend of mine had a Sharp Zaurus. Back then, it was pretty impressive. It had it's own proprietary Operating System (Synergy), a backlit touch screen, and standard PDA functions.
By today's standards, however, this unit is *very* limited. The standard model comes with 1MB of memory. Interestingly enough, they don't really go into what kind of hardware is under the hood. This zxLinux thing doesn't strike me as a port, but more as Emulation.
I've seem to have discovered that many people have viewed my question as vague.
First off, to all you people saying "Read the HOWTO", let's make one thing clear. That was the first thing I did. As a matter of fact, I've read it *several* times over looking for the answer to my question. If it helped, I wouldn't need to ask. (The HOWTO is what got my Masq setup working in the first place. If I didn't read it, I wouldn't be using it.)
Secondly, I have tried the port forewarder as well as the rulesets. None work. From extensive browsing of the boneyards site, I've found that Total Annihilation's Boneyards must allow ports 47624, and 2300-2400 for both TCP and UDP, as well as 9110 and 9113 for TCP. (P.S.: The instructions on the Masq Apps Page pertaining to Total Annihilation do NOT work with Boneyards. I've tried.)
So after firing e-mail back and forth from Cavedog, and extensive trial and error, I have still not been able to do this. So I ask Slashdot. Then I get a bunch of people telling me to "Read the Manual.' Sorry folks, if it was that easy it wouldn't be an issue.
I got an E-Mail from a spammer the other day, and you know what they were advertising? They were selling E-Mail addresses. They boasted somewhere around 500,000 "VALID E-MAIL ADDRESSES!"
Now, you can be *anywhere*, and get a chirp -- SPAM CALLING. It's infuriating. Thank goodness I don't have a cell phone - I despise them....but I can feel for those who will be affected by this crap. (What gets me, is that almost everyone who can do anything about spam is so blasé about it. They just don't care.)
On an unrelated-yet-related side note, what do ISPs actually DO about reported spam? I've noticed that 85-90% of my Spam can be traced back to either PSI.NET or UU.NET. Of course, I forward the mail to ABUSE@xxx.yyy, and they send me the standard "We've recieved your complaint, blah blah blah" and "We have taken action against those responsible, blah blah blah", but it just KEEPS COMING IN from those addresses. Not everyone on those services is a Spammer, so I can assume 2 things:
If they terminate the spammer's account, they have no problem giving the spammer another one.
OR
They really *aren't* taking any action whatsoever.
In either case, I can only guess that these services (as are any others that do the same thing) are Spammer-Friendly. That makes me Sick.
Oh, I've also noticed that AOL has changed their abuse structure. Just for your information, AOL no longer accepts Spam complaints at abuse@aol.com. The NEW address to send SPAM complaints to is: tosemail1@aol.com.
(AOL never gets back to me. They must hate acknowledging that something is WRONG in their perfect service.)
Believe it or not, your solution is probably something you haven't thought of yet. (Obviously, since you don't have it yet. Duh.)
There are a few questions you have to ask first.
1.) Do you need broadcast quality, or is this for something like home movies? This will *dramatically* change the budget of your project.
2.) How much are you willing to spend for your project? If it's a home movie type deal, chances are you don't want a TV Studio's budget. However, if you are doing broadcast work, you don't want a home-movie budget. Plan accordingly.
Now, if you want to get into broadcast quality, you would probably want a High-End Macintosh running Adobe Premiere. (Or if you still want broadcast quality, but have a tighter budget - Get an Amiga with a Video Toaster! YES, they ARE still used! I've seen Amiga 4000 boxes with the Toaster 4000 go for about $1500. Some TV networks and movie studios are still using this very same setup.)
For a home movie type project, you don't really need all the bells and whistles that come with broadcast quality equipment. Pick up an ATI All in Wonder, or a Voodoo3 3500 TV with some cheap video editing software by ULead or something. Pipe it in from your camcorder or VCR, add some cheezy effects and viola!
I don't agree with everything you said, but I can appreciate someone who makes valid points.
As do I, and I like rebutting with my own.;)
I mistook you for the typical denizen of these boards, i.e.; a kid who says, 'Linux rules, MS drools'. Obviously you're not.
I have a very open mind when it comes to Operating Systems and their uses. That's why I didn't mention any one competing Operating System from Windows.
I also crafted an incredibly pithy response for the past hour in response to your last message. The irony is, my IE crashed when I went to post it. Haha.
Go figure! heh.
Anyway, the gist of it is, I don't want to fight with you about this anymore.
I hope this didn't come across as a fight. I viewed it as a debate.
I can respect your position as I hope you can respect mine.
Absolutely.
Now let's go get that beer.
Quite Right. (Except I have to wait 2 weeks. Then I turn 21.;)
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Yeah, it's awful how MS helped build it into a trillion dollar society-changing phenomenon not seen since the advent of the printed word.
Again, it's not WHAT they are, it's HOW they got there.
Oh really? So how do you strangle competition before you hold a supposed monopoly? Hmmm, could it be by making a better product that people choose to buy?
In the beginning, that was true. Microsoft introduced Windows 1.0 (Which was a far cry from anything good), and it made computers (kinda) graphical. They rushed Windows out the door because Apple was stealing the show with their pretty UI. However, when Microsoft 'came to power' with Windows 3.0, that's when the strangle-hold tactics came into view. Then, when they brought out 3.11 (Just to incorporate some bug fixes, minimal networking, and that spiffy Certificate of Authenticity), it became the industry standard for User Interfaces on the PC. Microsoft knew this, and they took advantage of it.
That sounds like regular competition to me, not strangling.
Charging one company $15 for an OEM licence at the same time you charge a competing company $50 for the VERY SAME LICENSE isn't "regular competition".
And I didn't realize that Linux couldn't rise into the market. I thought most MS bashers held that it was.
What the -- Who brought Linux into this discussion? Linux doesn't even follow the same market policies as retail closed-source OS's, so it has no place here. I was referring to things like OS/2, or any other brilliant ideas that didn't have a chance because of Microsoft's hold.
You have a point about the graphical interface being easy to use and not a MS invention. But I bet that same 6 year old could set up the computer, too. According to some people on here, that isn't what computing is supposed to be. It's supposed to be hard. Well, Linux is definitely helping in that regard.
I agree with you on the 6 year-old issue, but I'm not one to think computing should be hard. However, I don't like your bash against Linux about helping to make computing difficult - It's not. Linux is not an easy OS to use, but it's not making computing difficult. *THAT* is an ignorant statement.
No. Why would anyone think that's sad?
I think it's sad that all of these companies rely so heavily on Microsoft, and if something happens to Microsoft, they can't survive? NT is a bloated, unstable piece of crap - Yet hundreds of thousands of mission-critical apps are run on it, HOPING the system stays together. Windows NT Server Resource kit comes with THEMES. *THEMES* On a goddamn SERVER?! What is the point? We're up to NT Service Pack 6, and Windows 2000 shipped with ~28,000 potential problems - Yet hundreds of thousands of companies place their trust in these systems. THAT'S sad.
That's how MS got market share from Unix in the first place.
Microsoft has a ways to go before capturing all the marketshare from *nix in the server market.
Learning is good. MS makes it easy. Being a business owner, I say that if people can retain information from a $3000 class better than a $80 book, I need to send them to the class.
I agree.
What's easier to remember: lame-ass PowerPoint presentations or pounds of dry text with words like 'grep' and 'fstab'? Maybe you overestimate people.
I hate to disagree with you, but the book is a lot better than the "lame-ass PowerPoint presentation." At least with the book, you can go back and reference what you read.
Jesus, you sound like an old man.
Heh. Scary, isn't it? That's because I remember the glory days of computing. (They're long gone, by the way.)
Who gives a shit what it was like 5 or 7 years ago? Whether you like it or not, the Internet is the be-all end-all for most people in computing right now.
I didn't dispute that point. In fact, you only stand to reaffirm it.
That's how the majority of people getting into it are finding out about Linux in the first place. You should be happy.
You brought Linux into this AGAIN? Why? (By the way, I'm thrilled of people discovering Linux. Many of the people I've gotten to try it are very pleased with it.)
MS chose to integrate their browser.
Yes they did. And why was that? To push Netscape out of the way.
Netscape was on it's way out, anyway.
Prove it. Had Microsoft not pounded them out of their path, they might have had a decent shot.
I have IE and NS on this 98 box right now. I use both so I can design web pages effectively. But I prefer IE because it's a better product.
I agree FULLY. I don't run Netscape because I don't like it. I believe Internet Explorer is a far better browser. That doesn't change the fact on how it came to exist.
How can you make an argument against downloading IE for free?
I'm not. What I'm saying is that Netscape was making their business from selling their browser package. Microsoft decided to take them out of the picture by giving THEIR browser away for free. Naturally, the population went with the free solution (And the easy one, seeing as how it was bundled with Windows), and so Netscape was forced to give their browser away too.
Isn't that what's so great about Linux? You don't like free?
Why do you keep bringing Linux into this? I didn't mention Linux ONCE in my original post, yet you're basing much of your side on it. (No, I like Free very much, but you're thinking "Free Beer")
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When you consider everything MS has done to improve computing, no one would be happy to hear this verdict.
Quite the contrary. When you consider everything Microsoft has done *to* the computing industry, lots of people are going to be ecstatic over this ruling.
Microsoft brought the computer to the masses, enhancing productivity and the usability of PCs.
It's not under question on whether Microsoft made Computerland "fun and easy", but it's a matter of HOW they got there. They strangled competition, and stifled any chances of anything else rising up into the market.
They actualy made it so EASY to use that even my 6 year old sister figured out how to use Win95 in a few hours.
Sit her in front of a Mac, and see if the same thing doesn't happen. Then take her and sit her in front of X. Graphical interfaces aren't that tough to figure out. (Oh, and don't be so quick to thank Microsoft on that. Thank Xerox and Apple.)
Do you even consider how many corporations rely on MS products for all of their operations?
And you don't think that's sad? Even in the slightest?
Their success would be impossible if the only available tools they had was a "superior OS" which they had to learn a ~200 page manual before being able to use effectively.
So? You think that's such a horrible atrocity to actually have to LEARN something? Many companies send their employees to schools and pay about $3000 for classes and materials for certifications that are essentially meaningless. If you were a company, wouldn't you rather spend $80 on that ~200 page manual?
About this browser thing.. imagine you were totally clueless about computers, and just booted to your OS. The first thing many in this age would want to do is hop on the Web..
Five years ago, this was not the case. Seven years ago, 87% of the population didn't know what the Internet WAS. This was the time period when I got my hands on the IBM-PC. These days, it's a shame that the Internet has become the "be all and do all" of computing.
but oh no! theres no browser!
Microsoft wasn't forced to weave Internet Explorer so tightly into Windows. That move was to squeeze Netscape out of the market.
Integrating IE to Windows is FAR from "abuse of their monopoly powers,"
HOW do you come to THAT conclusion? Microsoft Windows runs on +/-95% of ALL COMPUTERS. Netscape made a browser for the Internet. Microsoft said "WOAH. They're charging $40 for this thing. Let's make our own browser, and package it with Windows." BOOM. Now, +/-95% of ALL COMPUTERS now come with Internet Explorer. Then, Microsoft said "We don't want Netscape cutting in on our action. Let's make Internet Explorer FREE, and integrate it real tight with Windows so users are FORCED to use it." BOOM. Now, +/-95% of ALL COMPUTERS now come with Internet Explorer, have the option to download it for free, and are stuck with using it. And you think this is "just a way to help people out:"? This is doing more harm than help, my friend.
TO HELP THE CONSUMER.
Microsoft has proven long ago that they're in this business for self-interest. If they really wanted to help the consumer, they would make it a point to create better avenues for choice. (The sad fact is, almost NO company is truly out to benefit the consumer. Microsoft is no exception.)
"Commercial Purposes" hardly summarizes what they intend to do.
Yes friends, Mir is going to become a Hotel.
From what I gathered on the first article I read, it's not going to be cheap. (Duh) Basically, you take a ride up there, hang out for a few days, and take a ride back. Space Vacation. (WooHoo!)
2000-02-18 15:40:56 Mir Space Station to become Hotel (articles,space) (declined) 2000-02-18 19:13:39 Mir Space Station to be made into Hotel (articles,space) (declined)
*Sigh*, At least now I can finally claim I knew about something before it hit Slashdot. (I never used to be able to do that, but lately.....)
So, when you're done typing for the day, fold up a piece of paper and jam it between letters. Hang around for an hour or so, then head home with the paper still in the keyboard.
I remember reading something awhile back about a few laptops being stolen. Turns out that both of the laptops ran the distributed.net client. The next time the laptops connected to the net, the blocks were uploaded and the IP address was logged.
Both of the computers were recovered.:)
It was posted on Slashdot awhile back, and here is a link to the original story.
On a note to the story, what's going to happen to the MI5 agent? I'm assuming that he will be quietly discharged, and a few months down the road he'll disappear. (That usually happens to clumsy government agents. heh.)
Slashdot Mirror
By all means, DON'T think I'm knocking Palm. I'd love to own a Pilot. I just don't think it would be worth my money. I would spend $400, and it would sit in the corner while I tapped on my WinCE devices. Sorry, but that's the way it is. (For Me.)
I'm not supporting Windows on the desktop by any means. I'm a huge fan of Slackware...I Love it. However, in the PDA arena I would have to argue Windows CE over Palm. It just feels like you have so much more at your disposal to use. Multimedia Capabilities, High Color screens, compatibility with other CE devices from Other manufacturers, etc. Sure it's a cost of battery life, but hey - If that's a tradeoff you're willing to accept than do it. I have 3 CE devices, and I use them all.
I own a Cassiopeia A10, and I upgraded the ROM to CE 2.0. It's the usual style upgrade, but I noticed when you tap the screen a lot, after a while the unit refuses any more input from both the keyboard and the screen. The only option is to reset. So I switched back to CE 1.0, and it's fine. That being the case, I'm a bit leery as to the stability of CE 3.0, but we'll have to see.
Just my own opinion.
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Let me tell you that George Lucas hasn't gotten a DIME out of me regarding Star Wars. Out of the entire series, I've only seen the first movie once. (NOT the first episode, the first MOVIE.) And that was borrowing it from a friend.
I thought it sucked, so I haven't seen any of the sequels, OR the prequel. Sorry, but that's my opinion.
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Don't you DARE complain.
I predicted this roller coaster. While all this hype over a possible DVD is brewing, it's keeping interest in TPM alive. So people throw out a rumor here....a rebuttal there. The main point is: Nobody Cares! Okay, so if a DVD comes out all you Star Wars fanatics can roll in delight, and talk about how Great it is. If no DVD comes out, you can roll in despair and talk about how great it would have been. Then you can fall back on VHS.
George Lucas is laughing his ass off. He knows what's going on, and he knows it means one thing: MORE MONEY. For every statement that denies that a DVD will come out, X amount of people say "Screw it, I'll just buy the tape." Then another article comes out, and another rebutes THAT one. Then X MORE people buy the tape. the process repeats about 20 or so times, and then the hype dies down. When the hype dies down, there would be only one thing left to do:
Release the standard DVD.
Then, he'll start the whole process over again with the promise of a "Special Edition" DVD. (Or hell, maybe he'll release a "Special Edition" VHS, ride the hype coaster one more time, THEN release the "Special Edition" DVD.)
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By today's standards, however, this unit is *very* limited. The standard model comes with 1MB of memory. Interestingly enough, they don't really go into what kind of hardware is under the hood. This zxLinux thing doesn't strike me as a port, but more as Emulation.
Read about the Zaurus here: http://www.sharp-usa.com/zaurus/
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Hey, that was almost a straight response. Hope you didn't blow a circuit.
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Probably because you have his stash. But maybe I'm being insensitive. Maybe you really do have a problem.
That was absolutely hilarious.
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First off, to all you people saying "Read the HOWTO", let's make one thing clear. That was the first thing I did. As a matter of fact, I've read it *several* times over looking for the answer to my question. If it helped, I wouldn't need to ask. (The HOWTO is what got my Masq setup working in the first place. If I didn't read it, I wouldn't be using it.)
Secondly, I have tried the port forewarder as well as the rulesets. None work. From extensive browsing of the boneyards site, I've found that Total Annihilation's Boneyards must allow ports 47624, and 2300-2400 for both TCP and UDP, as well as 9110 and 9113 for TCP. (P.S.: The instructions on the Masq Apps Page pertaining to Total Annihilation do NOT work with Boneyards. I've tried.)
So after firing e-mail back and forth from Cavedog, and extensive trial and error, I have still not been able to do this. So I ask Slashdot. Then I get a bunch of people telling me to "Read the Manual.' Sorry folks, if it was that easy it wouldn't be an issue.
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I got an E-Mail from a spammer the other day, and you know what they were advertising? They were selling E-Mail addresses. They boasted somewhere around 500,000 "VALID E-MAIL ADDRESSES!"
Now, you can be *anywhere*, and get a chirp -- SPAM CALLING. It's infuriating. Thank goodness I don't have a cell phone - I despise them....but I can feel for those who will be affected by this crap. (What gets me, is that almost everyone who can do anything about spam is so blasé about it. They just don't care.)
On an unrelated-yet-related side note, what do ISPs actually DO about reported spam? I've noticed that 85-90% of my Spam can be traced back to either PSI.NET or UU.NET. Of course, I forward the mail to ABUSE@xxx.yyy, and they send me the standard "We've recieved your complaint, blah blah blah" and "We have taken action against those responsible, blah blah blah", but it just KEEPS COMING IN from those addresses. Not everyone on those services is a Spammer, so I can assume 2 things:
If they terminate the spammer's account, they have no problem giving the spammer another one.
OR
They really *aren't* taking any action whatsoever.
In either case, I can only guess that these services (as are any others that do the same thing) are Spammer-Friendly. That makes me Sick.
Oh, I've also noticed that AOL has changed their abuse structure. Just for your information, AOL no longer accepts Spam complaints at abuse@aol.com. The NEW address to send SPAM complaints to is: tosemail1@aol.com.
(AOL never gets back to me. They must hate acknowledging that something is WRONG in their perfect service.)
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There are a few questions you have to ask first.
1.) Do you need broadcast quality, or is this for something like home movies? This will *dramatically* change the budget of your project.
2.) How much are you willing to spend for your project? If it's a home movie type deal, chances are you don't want a TV Studio's budget. However, if you are doing broadcast work, you don't want a home-movie budget. Plan accordingly.
Now, if you want to get into broadcast quality, you would probably want a High-End Macintosh running Adobe Premiere. (Or if you still want broadcast quality, but have a tighter budget - Get an Amiga with a Video Toaster! YES, they ARE still used! I've seen Amiga 4000 boxes with the Toaster 4000 go for about $1500. Some TV networks and movie studios are still using this very same setup.)
For a home movie type project, you don't really need all the bells and whistles that come with broadcast quality equipment. Pick up an ATI All in Wonder, or a Voodoo3 3500 TV with some cheap video editing software by ULead or something. Pipe it in from your camcorder or VCR, add some cheezy effects and viola!
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A: The trekkie can actually spell "trekkie."
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Apparently, the Director of Product Marketing has been getting floods of E-Mail from users who want to know when the product will be released.
There is no shipping date on the site, or in his letter.
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http://hackphreak.org/decss/
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As do I, and I like rebutting with my own.
I mistook you for the typical denizen of these boards, i.e.; a kid who says, 'Linux rules, MS drools'. Obviously you're not.
I have a very open mind when it comes to Operating Systems and their uses. That's why I didn't mention any one competing Operating System from Windows.
I also crafted an incredibly pithy response for the past hour in response to your last message. The irony is, my IE crashed when I went to post it. Haha.
Go figure! heh.
Anyway, the gist of it is, I don't want to fight with you about this anymore.
I hope this didn't come across as a fight. I viewed it as a debate.
I can respect your position as I hope you can respect mine.
Absolutely.
Now let's go get that beer.
Quite Right. (Except I have to wait 2 weeks. Then I turn 21.
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Again, it's not WHAT they are, it's HOW they got there.
Oh really? So how do you strangle competition before you hold a supposed monopoly? Hmmm, could it be by making a better product that people choose to buy?
In the beginning, that was true. Microsoft introduced Windows 1.0 (Which was a far cry from anything good), and it made computers (kinda) graphical. They rushed Windows out the door because Apple was stealing the show with their pretty UI. However, when Microsoft 'came to power' with Windows 3.0, that's when the strangle-hold tactics came into view. Then, when they brought out 3.11 (Just to incorporate some bug fixes, minimal networking, and that spiffy Certificate of Authenticity), it became the industry standard for User Interfaces on the PC. Microsoft knew this, and they took advantage of it.
That sounds like regular competition to me, not strangling.
Charging one company $15 for an OEM licence at the same time you charge a competing company $50 for the VERY SAME LICENSE isn't "regular competition".
And I didn't realize that Linux couldn't rise into the market. I thought most MS bashers held that it was.
What the -- Who brought Linux into this discussion? Linux doesn't even follow the same market policies as retail closed-source OS's, so it has no place here. I was referring to things like OS/2, or any other brilliant ideas that didn't have a chance because of Microsoft's hold.
You have a point about the graphical interface being easy to use and not a MS invention. But I bet that same 6 year old could set up the computer, too. According to some people on here, that isn't what computing is supposed to be. It's supposed to be hard. Well, Linux is definitely helping in that regard.
I agree with you on the 6 year-old issue, but I'm not one to think computing should be hard. However, I don't like your bash against Linux about helping to make computing difficult - It's not. Linux is not an easy OS to use, but it's not making computing difficult. *THAT* is an ignorant statement.
No. Why would anyone think that's sad?
I think it's sad that all of these companies rely so heavily on Microsoft, and if something happens to Microsoft, they can't survive? NT is a bloated, unstable piece of crap - Yet hundreds of thousands of mission-critical apps are run on it, HOPING the system stays together. Windows NT Server Resource kit comes with THEMES. *THEMES* On a goddamn SERVER?! What is the point? We're up to NT Service Pack 6, and Windows 2000 shipped with ~28,000 potential problems - Yet hundreds of thousands of companies place their trust in these systems. THAT'S sad.
That's how MS got market share from Unix in the first place.
Microsoft has a ways to go before capturing all the marketshare from *nix in the server market.
Learning is good. MS makes it easy. Being a business owner, I say that if people can retain information from a $3000 class better than a $80 book, I need to send them to the class.
I agree.
What's easier to remember: lame-ass PowerPoint presentations or pounds of dry text with words like 'grep' and 'fstab'? Maybe you overestimate people.
I hate to disagree with you, but the book is a lot better than the "lame-ass PowerPoint presentation." At least with the book, you can go back and reference what you read.
Jesus, you sound like an old man.
Heh. Scary, isn't it? That's because I remember the glory days of computing. (They're long gone, by the way.)
Who gives a shit what it was like 5 or 7 years ago? Whether you like it or not, the Internet is the be-all end-all for most people in computing right now.
I didn't dispute that point. In fact, you only stand to reaffirm it.
That's how the majority of people getting into it are finding out about Linux in the first place. You should be happy.
You brought Linux into this AGAIN? Why? (By the way, I'm thrilled of people discovering Linux. Many of the people I've gotten to try it are very pleased with it.)
MS chose to integrate their browser.
Yes they did. And why was that? To push Netscape out of the way.
Netscape was on it's way out, anyway.
Prove it. Had Microsoft not pounded them out of their path, they might have had a decent shot.
I have IE and NS on this 98 box right now. I use both so I can design web pages effectively. But I prefer IE because it's a better product.
I agree FULLY. I don't run Netscape because I don't like it. I believe Internet Explorer is a far better browser. That doesn't change the fact on how it came to exist.
How can you make an argument against downloading IE for free?
I'm not. What I'm saying is that Netscape was making their business from selling their browser package. Microsoft decided to take them out of the picture by giving THEIR browser away for free. Naturally, the population went with the free solution (And the easy one, seeing as how it was bundled with Windows), and so Netscape was forced to give their browser away too.
Isn't that what's so great about Linux? You don't like free?
Why do you keep bringing Linux into this? I didn't mention Linux ONCE in my original post, yet you're basing much of your side on it. (No, I like Free very much, but you're thinking "Free Beer")
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Quite the contrary. When you consider everything Microsoft has done *to* the computing industry, lots of people are going to be ecstatic over this ruling.
Microsoft brought the computer to the masses, enhancing productivity and the usability of PCs.
It's not under question on whether Microsoft made Computerland "fun and easy", but it's a matter of HOW they got there. They strangled competition, and stifled any chances of anything else rising up into the market.
They actualy made it so EASY to use that even my 6 year old sister figured out how to use Win95 in a few hours.
Sit her in front of a Mac, and see if the same thing doesn't happen. Then take her and sit her in front of X. Graphical interfaces aren't that tough to figure out. (Oh, and don't be so quick to thank Microsoft on that. Thank Xerox and Apple.)
Do you even consider how many corporations rely on MS products for all of their operations?
And you don't think that's sad? Even in the slightest?
Their success would be impossible if the only available tools they had was a "superior OS" which they had to learn a ~200 page manual before being able to use effectively.
So? You think that's such a horrible atrocity to actually have to LEARN something? Many companies send their employees to schools and pay about $3000 for classes and materials for certifications that are essentially meaningless. If you were a company, wouldn't you rather spend $80 on that ~200 page manual?
About this browser thing.. imagine you were totally clueless about computers, and just booted to your OS. The first thing many in this age would want to do is hop on the Web..
Five years ago, this was not the case. Seven years ago, 87% of the population didn't know what the Internet WAS. This was the time period when I got my hands on the IBM-PC. These days, it's a shame that the Internet has become the "be all and do all" of computing.
but oh no! theres no browser!
Microsoft wasn't forced to weave Internet Explorer so tightly into Windows. That move was to squeeze Netscape out of the market.
Integrating IE to Windows is FAR from "abuse of their monopoly powers,"
HOW do you come to THAT conclusion? Microsoft Windows runs on +/-95% of ALL COMPUTERS. Netscape made a browser for the Internet. Microsoft said "WOAH. They're charging $40 for this thing. Let's make our own browser, and package it with Windows." BOOM. Now, +/-95% of ALL COMPUTERS now come with Internet Explorer. Then, Microsoft said "We don't want Netscape cutting in on our action. Let's make Internet Explorer FREE, and integrate it real tight with Windows so users are FORCED to use it." BOOM. Now, +/-95% of ALL COMPUTERS now come with Internet Explorer, have the option to download it for free, and are stuck with using it. And you think this is "just a way to help people out:"? This is doing more harm than help, my friend.
TO HELP THE CONSUMER.
Microsoft has proven long ago that they're in this business for self-interest. If they really wanted to help the consumer, they would make it a point to create better avenues for choice. (The sad fact is, almost NO company is truly out to benefit the consumer. Microsoft is no exception.)
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This entire article details the stuff in the new kernel.
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Yes friends, Mir is going to become a Hotel.
From what I gathered on the first article I read, it's not going to be cheap. (Duh) Basically, you take a ride up there, hang out for a few days, and take a ride back. Space Vacation. (WooHoo!)
Read about it here, and here.
Oh! Coincidentally, check this out:
2000-02-18 15:40:56 Mir Space Station to become Hotel (articles,space) (declined)
2000-02-18 19:13:39 Mir Space Station to be made into Hotel (articles,space) (declined)
*Sigh*, At least now I can finally claim I knew about something before it hit Slashdot. (I never used to be able to do that, but lately.....)
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I'm an er33t hax0r. i 0wn j00
1 g0t r3wt on all j00r box0rs.
h4w!
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2000-04-01 06:46:13 Mind-Visualization Search Engine (articles,internet) (declined)
Ah Well.
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Then let them have fun with the logs.
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Both of the computers were recovered.
It was posted on Slashdot awhile back, and here is a link to the original story.
On a note to the story, what's going to happen to the MI5 agent? I'm assuming that he will be quietly discharged, and a few months down the road he'll disappear. (That usually happens to clumsy government agents. heh.)
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Instead of trying so desperately to get First Post, how about giving some detail on the other incident?
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Nope. Good 'ol BlueBox. 2600 Hertz.
Makes you wonder if the Atari was named after the Bluebox...
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