I would suggest they use a Toy language with a program counter and assembly primitives.
LOGO was quite popular on the Apple ][ for elementary schools in the 1980's. It taught students how to count steps, drop or pick up cursor, turn left or right at angles (i.e., 45-, 90-, 180- and 360-degrees), and make complex geometric shapes.
Also, no need to teach Higher-level abstractions such as Variables at an introductory level...... Registers are plenty sufficient.
Programming never made sense to me until after I got into college algebra to learn the order of operations and spent three years working years working as a video game tester. When I went back to community college to learn programming, everything fell into place and I graduated with a 4.0 GPA.
Most of the class is just figuring out the ide, or getting the syntax right.
DOS EDIT was a bitch back in the day.
[,,,] make coding the next blue collar job but it takes a lot of knowledge and practice to perfect the craft.
So does carpentry, electrical, plumbing or any other skilled trade that face a shortage of workers as the native-born workforce is aging out and foreign workers are going home.
That's one of the main points of developing a general-purpose AI.
That's what I read in the 1980's.
Just as adaptable as a human brain, but without the messy and expensive biological needs.
I guess you're never read "The Two Faces of Tomorrow" by James P. Hogan.;)
Raymond Dyer's project had developed the first genuinely self-aware artificial intelligence that could learn and change its own programming to meet unanticipated problems. But could the AI—code-named Spartacus—be trusted to obey its makers And if it went rogue, could it be shut down As an acid test, Spartacus was put in charge of a space station and programmed with a survival instinct. Dyer and his team had the job of seeing how far the computer would go to defend itself when they tried to pull the plug. Dyer didn't expect any serious problems to arise in the experiment.
Right. Because no one has ever suffered breaches to in-house infrastructure.
Except my file server is on a dedicated network not connected to the internet. Unless hackers have physical access to my file server, they're so out of luck.
Government will send you packing for good in your late 50s or early 60s.
I work in government IT. Most of my coworkers are in their 60's and 70's. Unless Microsoft delivers on all the promises for SCCM 2016, they're not planning to retire any time soon.
And no chance you will live to 120 claiming government benefits for 43+ years.
I'm not planning on Social Security being available when I retire. The Wall Street Journal had an article that people who planned to live longer are less likely to outlive their retirement savings even if they live to be 115-years-old.
I'm halfway through a fully funded five-year contract. Once I get my InfoSec certifications, I'll be looking for a new job.
You do not want to hit the market at 50+.
I'm the second youngest on my team. Most of my coworkers are in their 60's and 70's.
You might be the greatest programmer in the world, but if you won't "culture fit" with the 20 year olds, you'll stay unemployed.
I'm not a programmer per se. I may have an associate degree in programming but I don't do that for a living. I do IT support work for the enterprise environment.
You might be the greatest programmer in the world, but if you won't "culture fit" with the 20 year olds, you'll stay unemployed.
The last time I worked with 20 year olds was when I was a video game tester for six years. Even then I was "over the hill" for that job by being in my early 30's.
Intelligent people move into management in their 30s-40s (or, even better, have saved enough money that they can retire at 50 and do hobby projects)
Intelligent people have multiple streams of income in addition to their current job, and have plenty of options to fall back on.
If a robot ever replace my IT support job, I would have already moved on to something else. The days of spending 50 years in the same job to collect a pension and gold watch are long gone.
I thought most of them just cheated the system and made you exempt (even though you supposedly have to have either management tasks, significant decision making authority about how to do your job, or be a recognized professional - which IT isn't).
Not for contractors who work through a contracting agency.
My employment contracts for the last decade has prevented me from working more than 40 hours a week. None of the Fortune 500 companies I've worked for wanted to pay overtime for IT support.
Uh, no. Except for 4,000 positions appointed by POTUS, government workers are mostly apolitical. We don't talk about politics. We do talk about Saturday Night Live.;)
Of course, actual journalists threw all that overboard in a desperate attempt to get the Right Person elected.
The media got the person that they wanted for POTUS: Donald J. Trump. His administration will make Nixon and Reagan look like amateurs in terms of scandals, indictments and prison sentences.
Journalism has been "fiction inspired by true events" for decades, maybe forever.
Creative non-fiction. People don't want facts, they want a story (or, in today's political discourse, a narrative).
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I would suggest they use a Toy language with a program counter and assembly primitives.
LOGO was quite popular on the Apple ][ for elementary schools in the 1980's. It taught students how to count steps, drop or pick up cursor, turn left or right at angles (i.e., 45-, 90-, 180- and 360-degrees), and make complex geometric shapes.
Also, no need to teach Higher-level abstractions such as Variables at an introductory level...... Registers are plenty sufficient.
Programming never made sense to me until after I got into college algebra to learn the order of operations and spent three years working years working as a video game tester. When I went back to community college to learn programming, everything fell into place and I graduated with a 4.0 GPA.
Most of the class is just figuring out the ide, or getting the syntax right.
DOS EDIT was a bitch back in the day.
[,,,] make coding the next blue collar job but it takes a lot of knowledge and practice to perfect the craft.
So does carpentry, electrical, plumbing or any other skilled trade that face a shortage of workers as the native-born workforce is aging out and foreign workers are going home.
Honest question, how would a person who has no assets (but does have a job) get their foot in the door to income they don't have to work for?
1. Spend less than you make.
"The Millionaires Next Door' by Thomas J. Stanley and William D. Danko.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Millionaire_Next_Door
2. Put aside 10% of your income for savings and investments.
"The Richest Man in Babylon" by George Samuel Clason
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Richest_Man_in_Babylon_(book)
3. Buy assets that put money in your pocket, not liabilities that take money out of your pocket.
"Rich Dad, Poor Dad," by Robert Kiyosaki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Dad_Poor_Dad
...But they sure try to call you after hours for "just one thing."
No one has ever called me after hours in 20+ years of my technical career.
Hope you remember to grab all the files you might need before you leave.
Not an issue because I don't access those files outside of my home.
I keep hearing that retirement is dead... so what will you be doing at 80? Working? 90? 100?
I'll be self-employed. Doing what I'm not sure yet.
That's one of the main points of developing a general-purpose AI.
That's what I read in the 1980's.
Just as adaptable as a human brain, but without the messy and expensive biological needs.
I guess you're never read "The Two Faces of Tomorrow" by James P. Hogan. ;)
Raymond Dyer's project had developed the first genuinely self-aware artificial intelligence that could learn and change its own programming to meet unanticipated problems. But could the AI—code-named Spartacus—be trusted to obey its makers And if it went rogue, could it be shut down As an acid test, Spartacus was put in charge of a space station and programmed with a survival instinct. Dyer and his team had the job of seeing how far the computer would go to defend itself when they tried to pull the plug. Dyer didn't expect any serious problems to arise in the experiment.
http://www.baen.com/the-two-faces-of-tomorrow.html
Sad that you don't realize your situation is an outlier.
My entire life is an outlier. When God hands out lemons, most people suck it down with salt and tequila. I make lemonade.
Yikes. I REALLY hope you don't you lose your job.
Why would I lose my job? The five-year contract is fully funded. After I get my InfoSec certifications, I'll have a different job.
Right. Because no one has ever suffered breaches to in-house infrastructure.
Except my file server is on a dedicated network not connected to the internet. Unless hackers have physical access to my file server, they're so out of luck.
Oh wait, Target. Oh wait, Home Depot. Oh wait, Yahoo multiple times. Oh wait, LinkedIn. Oh wait, Adobe. Oh wait, MySpace. Oh wait, Verizon Enterprise Services. Oh wait, Dropbox. Oh wait, tumblr.
Zee cloud, boss! Zee cloud!
It isn't just the job you have that is at risk of being replaced by automation. It is also the jobs that you would move to.
Most of the jobs I've done for the last 20+ years haven't existed when I was a kid in the 1970's. You can't automate jobs that don't yet exist.
Government will send you packing for good in your late 50s or early 60s.
I work in government IT. Most of my coworkers are in their 60's and 70's. Unless Microsoft delivers on all the promises for SCCM 2016, they're not planning to retire any time soon.
And no chance you will live to 120 claiming government benefits for 43+ years.
I'm not planning on Social Security being available when I retire. The Wall Street Journal had an article that people who planned to live longer are less likely to outlive their retirement savings even if they live to be 115-years-old.
http://blogs.wsj.com/experts/2017/02/17/the-people-least-concerned-about-outliving-their-savings-may-be-most-at-risk-financially/
Better hope that job lasts.
I'm halfway through a fully funded five-year contract. Once I get my InfoSec certifications, I'll be looking for a new job.
You do not want to hit the market at 50+.
I'm the second youngest on my team. Most of my coworkers are in their 60's and 70's.
You might be the greatest programmer in the world, but if you won't "culture fit" with the 20 year olds, you'll stay unemployed.
I'm not a programmer per se. I may have an associate degree in programming but I don't do that for a living. I do IT support work for the enterprise environment.
You might be the greatest programmer in the world, but if you won't "culture fit" with the 20 year olds, you'll stay unemployed.
The last time I worked with 20 year olds was when I was a video game tester for six years. Even then I was "over the hill" for that job by being in my early 30's.
Intelligent people move into management in their 30s-40s (or, even better, have saved enough money that they can retire at 50 and do hobby projects)
Intelligent people have multiple streams of income in addition to their current job, and have plenty of options to fall back on.
You have been doing support for decades.
My technical career started 20+ years ago. I've been doing IT support for the last 12 years or so.
You are at a time in life where most successful IT people begin to retire.
I'm only 47-years-old. I still have another 30 years before I retire and another 43 years before I die at 120-years-old.
You are your counterpoint, except there is no gold watch and pension.
My current government IT job gives me a month off each year, and I got extra month of pay as a Christmas bonus last year.
You should be worrying.
Only people who don't plan for the future need to worry.
VON NUEMANN LIVES!
If a robot ever replace my IT support job, I would have already moved on to something else. The days of spending 50 years in the same job to collect a pension and gold watch are long gone.
Nice try Grandpa, you are getting phased out.
Young people today. No respect for sound security practices. Now get off my lawn!
The only safe place for your data is a file server and offsite backups that you control. I no longer use the cloud to store my data.
I thought most of them just cheated the system and made you exempt (even though you supposedly have to have either management tasks, significant decision making authority about how to do your job, or be a recognized professional - which IT isn't).
Not for contractors who work through a contracting agency.
My employment contracts for the last decade has prevented me from working more than 40 hours a week. None of the Fortune 500 companies I've worked for wanted to pay overtime for IT support.
No one told the bots that the election was over?
Don't forget we need to build a 2000-mile wall on the Mexican border, and stop all Muslims from entering the country.
And the nukes being smuggled in bales of pot.
http://www.thekindland.com/policy/today-in-bomb-weed-arizona-congressman-says-terrorists-will-ship-2654
There's no point trying to find out a reason for one of Trumps lies.
I find it more fun to push the buttons of trump supporters, watch them go from aggressor ("You lie!") to victim ("You threaten to shoot me!").
This Comment that you posted just a little while ago, so I'm not sure how you forgot that you threatened to shoot me.
Let's look at that comment: "I'm going to exercise my 1st and 2nd Amendment rights. Don't like it? Fuck off."
Where exactly in THIS COMMENT did I threaten to shoot you? Note that the word "shoot" doesn't appear in the comment.
You have deep psychological problems.
I'm not the one that needs help.
You obviously work for Republican men.
Uh, no. Except for 4,000 positions appointed by POTUS, government workers are mostly apolitical. We don't talk about politics. We do talk about Saturday Night Live. ;)
Of course, actual journalists threw all that overboard in a desperate attempt to get the Right Person elected.
The media got the person that they wanted for POTUS: Donald J. Trump. His administration will make Nixon and Reagan look like amateurs in terms of scandals, indictments and prison sentences.
Journalism has been "fiction inspired by true events" for decades, maybe forever.
Creative non-fiction. People don't want facts, they want a story (or, in today's political discourse, a narrative).