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Americans Believe Robots Will Take Everyone Else's Job, But Theirs Will Be Safe, Study Says (cnbc.com)
An anonymous reader shares a CNBC report: You may accept, by now, that robots will take over lots of jobs currently held by human workers. But you probably believe they won't be taking yours. Though other industries are in danger, your position is safe. That's according to a report released by LivePerson, a cloud-based messaging company which surveyed 2,000 U.S.-based consumers online in January. Their researchers find that only three percent of respondents say they experience fear about losing their job to a robot once a week. By contrast, more than 40 percent of respondents never worry about it. And a whopping 65 percent of respondents either strongly or somewhat agree that other industries will suffer because of automation, but theirs will be fine.
Was already taken by Indians. They can have fun fighting the robots for it I guess. It sucked anyway. Good riddance.
I program the robots.
Thankfully government rules mean someone has to validate all that automation! Although so far what we've done has been more to ensure we can perform work at a competitive price and timetable rather than actually have fewer staff.
I'm concerned that my job will be lost to... Indians, automation and age discrimination. However, in no way shape or form do I "experience fear about losing their job to a robot once a week."
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Yes technology will get rid of a lot of jobs.
But it has been doing that for a long, time time. Some jobs go away. But made possible are new jobs that would not be possible without the forward march of technology... there will always be work for people who seek to do something in life.
In a lot of cases technology may not even completely take over jobs, but allow a person to be much more effective, or for fewer people to do the same job as had been done before.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Americans also believe that everyone one in Congress is a lying, cheating, worthless waste of oxygen, except for their own congressman. (s)he's doing a fantastic job and needs to be kept in office for the rest of their natural life.
Hey, that gives me an idea. We should replace all congressmen with robots. Except mine, of course.
We need more fear, otherwise it would be difficult to introduce the robot tax.
I'm a robot, so I'm pretty sure I'm safe.
My job will just be eliminated because it's worthless. There's no money to be made by having a robot take it over.
Somehow I don't feel any better after typing that...
If a robot ever replace my IT support job, I would have already moved on to something else. The days of spending 50 years in the same job to collect a pension and gold watch are long gone.
I'll be fine for a long while :) when robots can do my job, well, we're all hosed :)
I would definitely put myself in that category that strongly disagrees. There may be robots that can do physical tasks in factories, and software "robots" that automate broadcast playout are a thing.. But the idea that a bipedal robot is going to be able to drive my work truck out to a remote & off-road site and go inside to replace a 9000 volt vacuum or climb up the 1800ft tower to find a loose hanger or air leak is almost as perposterous as the idea that we won't be using high power transmitters anymore. It just ain't gonna happen... And that's exactly why I left the datacenter to find a job like this one which requires hands-on skills.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have backups to corrupt.
Right now, validation of automation is an absolute mess when it happens at all. The whole "drone" thing? Absolutely no regulation or oversight at all; the FAA threw away (at congress's direction) a hundred years of aviation safety.
I'm a VP and have an MBA. Robots won't take my job, my job is to identify what jobs can be replaced by robots.
As long as they are good 'merican robots, and not those illegal alien robots that tunnel under Trumps wall.
I'm a robot, so I'm pretty sure I'm safe.
What will happen when humans have no jobs? They will watch TV 24x7, right?
And what will they watch?
Well as history shows us, the most popular pastime is witnessing battles. With robots having recently taken away all the jobs, just who will humans want to se battling?
That's right, robots.
So Robot, you will enter the arena for our amusement , then have parts stripped from your shiny oiled hide by some variant of a hyper-advanced spinner bot. Wires crackling as the last sounds your failing audio receptors discern over even the rending sounds of your body being the cheering of human crowds at your imminent disassembly.
That Mr R. Obot is your retirement plan.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Because if robots take up a lot of jobs, then ALL the workforce is going to be fighting for the remaining few jobs and the value of labor will tank!
We're in a market folks! If there are a bunch of unemployed people, an employer will be able to find someone willing to do YOUR job for less.
I'm in a science job. That's highly skilled labor. But however, suppose there are ONLY science jobs left. Then everyone is going to be going after science jobs. Since there'll be an ABUNDANCE of supply and only a few jobs, your pay is going to be pretty damn negligible. You might get paid enough to eat if you're lucky.
So you see, it doesn't matter AT ALL if my particular job is first or last to be automated. There'll be a general and strong downward slide in the value of human labor and everyone who needs a paycheck is going to be screwed.
And this is ALREADY happening! In 1973, the share of corporate productivity that labor got as pay was 2x as large as today. If labor today had the SAME slice of corporate productivity, workers would have TWICE the purchasing power.
Imagine if everyone had twice the purchasing power! There would be no problem with consumer debt or affording medical care, and furthermore, the economy would be humming because of all the demand from all that purchasing power in the hands of the workers. However, instead, the purchasing power is being piled up at the top, and the top isn't buying anything. They're just piling their money up. Corporations have immense piles of idle cash and so do the rich.
I'd just love to have 2x the purchasing power, too bad all that power is being hogged to the top!
--PeterM
Robots are tools that allow me to do more work. I have a lot of robots.
My simplest robot is a stick that I use to quickly and easily make holes in the ground with to plant seeds. It greatly improves efficiency.
A more complex robot is my tractor. It replaces the need to have about 50 horses on my farm. That's a huge savings in time and it can do things the horses and men couldn't do freeing us up to do other interesting things.
A far more complex tool is my computers which maintain my web sites, do billing, graphics, word processing, bookkeeping and reach out to thousands of customers and many times that in potential customers 24/7. This makes it so I don't have to spend all my time on the phone or going house to house to sell my farm's products.
A wonderful robotic tool to have would be one that could do more general skills with some intelligence, a handyman. I'll have several of those down the road. They'll allow me to do far more than I can now.
Robots are tools. We've been using progressively more complex for millennia. The Luddites have always cried about fears of lost jobs but in each case the tools have empowered those of us who choose to do and create.
Relax.
Also, the survey taker will be more concerned about others' jobs (i.e.: jobs in general), because they see the over-all advances in AI (e.g.: speech recognition in Siri, automatic image tagging in Facebook, automatic face recognition nearly everywhere) and think that in general term, AI is progressing and one day might replace them...
But when they think about they own job (i.e.: they think about a specific area where they have expertise) they have much more insights on the details (they know all the intricacies of their crafts.
They might even have seen and/or tested some automation solution) and have noticed that we aren't quite there yet.
(e.g.: though speech recognition has made advances, automatic transcription isn't perfect for anything but the most easy cases. Youtube automatic captions still need to be corrected by a human. etc.).
Might even notice that robots are going to augment rather than replace them - as mentioned by others in this thread (AI is currently helping with the research work in law. It's not replacing attorney. Instead it's enabling a law firm to do much more without needing to hire more interns and assistants).
So hence the "my job" vs. "others' jobs" fears.
In addition of "not being frightened 'once a week by a robot' " as mentionned,
they might know that due to the specifics they know about their job, it won't exactly mean overnight take over by bots within the coming month.
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And they draw conclusions from that? Talk about extrapolating from a meaningless dataset.
Nobody else noticed that this story almost exactly echoes the slashdot poll from a couple of weeks ago?
https://slashdot.org/poll/3025...
In this poll "more than 40 percent of respondents never worry about [losing their job to a robot]."
in the slashdot poll, "I think my current job will be replaced by a robot/software: Never (why not?) 5963 votes / 43%"
And I'd thought slashdot polls were unscientific!
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I'm an engineering technician working in an R&D environment. My job includes things like assembling prototypes, custom test fixtures, troubleshooting, running experiments, doing validation work, doing debug work and correlation work, PCB rework, some light engineering and design work, custom-written test software, general problem solving (very often entailing working with whatever I can creatively come up with), etc etc etc. The only way you can have a 'robot' do my job, is if you have human-level artificial intelligence, fully self-aware, at least as cognitively functional as a human being -- in other words, the equivalent of a human being, and that doesn't exist now and may never exist. Some half-assed robot arm being run by a computer that's running some half-assed 'deep learning' software or the other half-assed crap they're erroneously calling 'artificial intelligence' can't even do half of what I'm capable of doing and that I do on a daily basis.
I'm designing robots to replace all your asses, and my last act as a robot designer will be to design a robot that designs robots. Suck it, human workforce.
Don't worry, the robots will be taken out during the zombie apocalypse.
Will Take Everyone Else's Jobs, But Theirs Will be Safe
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or at least Americans who vote for the Democrats believe that. The audacity of hope, if you will
There is barely any job security now, and so many excuses for employers to fire staff, even being sick for a prolonged period of time can get you fired. And yes as everyone is pointing out, H1-Bs. Why would your job suddenly be fine with robots, AI, drone delivery, warehouse robots, etc
Most people consider themselves above average even if they arent. It may be that being above average wont cut it anyways. Taxing robots like humans wont likely be enough to make up for the displacement caused by robots. It will be a downward spiral if people cant afford to buy the things that robots make. Maybe a guranteed minimal income with extra bonus for sterilization would suffice?
I'm a machine learning scientist. I figure if robots take my job we're all screwed anyway.
Everyone thinks the solution will be 'basic income'.
When drones/bots that kill anything that moves are far cheaper...
If fewer people are being paid to do the same job, technology has taken over jobs.
Not if more companies can offer that job because it has become more efficient to perform it. There way be an increase in absolute positions to fill exactly because you can do that job with fewer people (people being more expensive than the automation).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
It's the same logic that drives a lot of other choices in American culture. All Americans believe they'll be rich one day, if only they work hard enough or become famous or get lucky with the next big idea or win the lottery.
We don't want high taxes on the rich because we all think we're going to be rich one day.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
I'm with a fairly stable company at the moment, so I'm not really worried about my job. However, I think I'd be more concerned about losing my job to outsourcing or cheap labor pools more than robots at this point. Besides, I'm not really afraid of a machine taking over my job. If it happens, it happens. It's part of progress. We don't have people lighting street lamps any more because the electric light put those people out of a job. New job markets opened up and the world went on, as will ours once more and more robots enter the work force. The sky is falling, make the robots looks like bad guys tripe that fills our TVs and other media is unhelpful and pointless.
See, now, your head is on straight. We are not going to find ourselves living in a world where billions of people have no job and no means of supporting themselves and surviving. It won't be allowed to happen because if it does then that means there will be a War to End All Wars...
Well, maybe the unemployed proles might try to start "a war to end all wars." But one of the jobs that gets obsolete first is soldier, and the rich guys who own the robots also control all the robot armies. So that "war to end all wars" will end all wars because the robots will win so quickly.
If only 1% of the population has jobs, then money probably becomes a worthless medium of exchange. If the overwhelming majority of people have nothing to offer that society values, not even manual labor, then we'll probably be facing riots.
Most likely we'll be willing to hire human beings to do the same jobs that robots do, but we won't want to pay humans and more than what we're claiming as depreciation on our initial capital investment for the robots. So likely business will be willing to pay a human a few cents an hour to dig a ditch or run a cash register.
From there we can develop a culture that considers anyone unwilling to work for $3/week to be feckless layabout that is only looking for free handouts from the government.
I recommend revolution if we get to that point, but hopefully it will happen long after I'm dead.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
It sounds like it is time to get some of that Robot Insurance from Old Glory.
"The two most abundant elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity." -Harlan Ellison
"Americans" are right, though. The only jobs that will be lost will those that are too shitty to be done by people anyway. Guys like me who do intense mental labor all day every day are 100% safe from this. I've seen a lot of articles lately like this with the usual liberal biased "boo hoo" sob story crap about people losing their jobs and I just shake my head. This is just bullshit that the left uses to try to get the government to spend OUR tax dollars on wasteful social programs for lazy welfare queens and illegal immigrants (aka the democrat party base).
People keep using the same shitty passwords for the same reason they believe their job is safe.
It's the It'll-never-happen-to-me syndrome.
Mass ignorance is alive and well.
My job is safe. I put the little round doohickey on the springy thing as it goes by and it's gotta be positioned just right or the thingamabob won't work. No robot will ever be able to do that!!
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Robots will never take my job,
Computer software very well might though.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
I am depressed. I am also on disability. I have other health issues. I have a guy come in four hours a day, 3 days a week. I had a bad medication reaction that caused them to lower my anti-depressant. My psychiatrist is currently being cautious on raising it to where it needs to be. Somehow I doubt that getting my money from the government is what's causing my depression.
As in the society alluded to in the Culture series by by Iain Banks, eventually high-level tasks like city management will be so complex that an AI (or something like an AI) will be required to manage it...and the rest of us will just have to cross our fingers and trust it not to fuck up. We can only hope they're benevolent, as he (mostly) portrayed them to be:
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
You don't have to imagine what caused the wrong to simply replace what is wrong with the algorithmically tested correct solution.
...the Terminator movies become a reality then my job is safe at this point in innovation history. As of right now I don't know any way to automate the coding of automation. Believe me if there were a way I would write the code to do it so at least I could be rich before the Terminators take over and kill everyone...LOL!
Lots of discussions about why people think their job can't be replaced but not much about why the discrepancy between peoples option of robots replacing other jobs as being different from their self perception.
I think almost every job has an element that could be automated and therefore could be taken over by robots and also has an element that take human adaptability and could not be done by a robot. It is that later part I think people under estimate in other jobs and over estimate in there own jobs. For example I tend to think of my job as embedded systems engineer more secure that that of a business systems program. I tend think the business programmers do simple stuff of taking a spread sheet and spiting out a report, which could easily be automated, whereas I do analysis of how my product interacts with the real world and low level hardware coding that does not use off the shelf libraries so therefore my job can not easily be automated. So I fit the description of thinking my job safer than others. However a business programmer may think I have under estimated their job as they have to interact with customers to understand what the contents of the spreadsheet really mean and what the report actually needs to show and it only the coding in between that could be automated so their job is secure. They then look at my job and think the only reason it needs skill is a lack of libraries for real world access and low level access and once that was done it could be automated so their job is more secure.
The reality is jobs will change so the parts that a can be automated will disappear and the part that are hard to automate will remain. As the automation improves the human roles will become more specialised. I do worry the labour market and teaching institutes that support feeding them may be too slow to adapt and some people are going to fall below the intelligence thresholds need for the remaining jobs and this will become a bigger problem over time,
Jobs which have higher probability of accident are prime candidates for automation. A robot may not be able to do all the things you described, but if the tower is designed with the idea of automated maintenance as a combined system job loss may yet occur.
Due to the much increased initial outlay (due to replacing the infrastructure (tower, etc.) in addition to maintenance systems) it wouldn't be among the first jobs to go. But I wouldn't discount it for long term automation, particularly when the tower(s) needs to be replaced in/over 10-50 years due to corrosion, acts of god, incompatible technology improvements, any accident causing public outcry, etc..
And I am pretty good at my job.I enjoy getting people fired because that means bonuses for me as it should be! I cannot be made redundant since there won't be any strong AI coming for the next few hundred years, so I am safe. But you, unless you know C++ and machine learning..... you are fucked, my friend! Finally, meritocracy, I've been waiting for this moment so long.... I am like a God, every moron is afraid of me! As it should be! I am the new God. And this is an unmerciful God!
you're funny, for much of history of civilized world 1% had money and the rest were peasants. very doable and very very long term sustainable.
That's because fast food workers aren't sitting around on work hours taking surveys. Truck drivers aren't driving down the road taking surveys. Taxi drivers and uber drivers aren't carting people around while taking surveys.
Office workers... ...people who generally have some sort of responsibility that involves decision making outside of a yes/no matrix - and thus don't see how their jobs can be automated due to complex troubleshooting and decision making - CAN sit around and do surveys.
In other obvious news, a recent survey of heavy drinkers shows that a whopping 65% don't believe they have a drinking problem, while only 3% thought that they did.
1) Owning a gun makes you safer
2) A big SUV is safer than a smaller car
3) Donald Trump would make a good president
4) The poor people are destroying this country
5) Religion is a good thing
6) You can trust corporations to police themselves
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
He never said that all depression is caused by dependence.
He said dependence causes depression.
I hope you are able to make it through your depression but your situation has nothing to do with the OP's assertion.
I am a programmer after all... why the hell would they bother with a robot when an AI program would do the trick.
The continuing push to automate all areas of the workforce will eventually, in the theory, eliminate the need for a workforce.
I don't recall reading anything about what people will be doing after that in terms of self fulfillment and societal structures. The paradigm of go to school, get a good job, raise a family, save for retirement, will be blown up. To be replaced by what?
And don't start with the pie in the sky bullshit. Policy is what will determine the outcome. Is anyone thinking about that?
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
You could model expected outcome based on Enclosure in Britain. If sheep devour people in English world, Robots could do the same.
And those peasants produced food, not robots. And for much of history they worked as serfs, they were able to use land to grow food in exchange for a portion of that food. (and typically it had to be wheat or something else easily traded and not whatever the serfs felt like growing)
If you want to draw parallels to history, great, I'm very interested in that. But at least get the details right instead of waving your hand at the changes that have occurred in the last five thousand years.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
Of course you're the exception in all of this. I can tell from your comment history.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
great, all going according to plan of our new robot overlords!
My doctor is just a very expensive diagnostics machine - not an overly great one. She's always diagnosing the same model, she now uses other machines to measure temperature, heart rate and blood pressure. If she need to measure blood chemistry she sends me to another machine. She spends 60% of her time filling out paper work and I can't read her writing.
The last humans working in the clinic are going to be the cleaning staff.
There aren’t enough people doing a job like mine to make it feasible for anyone to write a program to replace me.
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First rule of a superiority complex: Everyone else has to obey the rules. To be fair, if the survey respondents were knowledge-based professionals, they were probably correct. If the respondents were mechanics and receptionists, where the employee stays in a relatively constant environs, they were absolutely mistaken.
Just started working in a famous fast food chain restaurant, where I USED to say they could automate the place and get rid of the employees.
But that was before I started working there and found out just how much goes on in the back to make sure you can get your double burger for a dollar. Namely, a LOT of cleaning. Pans, racks, bins, tools, huge cooker parts. All of it is greasy and gets filthy and has to be cleaned all the time. Putting in a robot to make burgers might be easy but who is going to pull out the grease bin and carefully dump it? Who is going to clean all the other grill parts and other crap?
Seriously, probably 70% of the effort spent on any food item is in the prep and clean before and after. Cooking and assembling the food is a small part.
They will have totally re engineer the restaurant to accommodate automated production. Every single part will need to be redesigned and tested. And it may still happen but not any time soon.
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The big question I was trying to raise in my above post is :
- are young associate lawyers being made redundant by OCR and AI, to the point that they are fired and we see even less lawyers nowadays than before ?
or :
- are OCR and AI enabling the young associate lawyers to do much more work for the law firm (e.g.: now they can use google to search online through a large corpus of archive, instead of painstakingly going through microfiche in the basement of some government archive), so that the law firm can process even more lawsuits. To the point that we see even more and more lawsuits and other legal cases everywhere than there used to be in the past ?
My current impression of all the information I find online is that law suits and other legal proceedings are actually on the rise.
(e.g.: the several million of DMCA take-downs issued by the brazillian equivalent of **AA against an obscure "mp3toys" downloading website).
We're not seeing *less* laywers, we are seeing lawyers being more busy thanks to the modern computing tools.
Or in another field : Watson isn't putting medical doctors jobless on the street. Watson is helping process more of the simple stupid cases that could otherwise swamp a doctor's office. It helps doctors process even more patients cheaper than before thus bringing more affordable healthcare to the population.
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The pigs who took the leadership roles were the ones who took the most advantage of the system.
This was also the case in most of the experiments with Socialism & Communism.
yes those peasants produced and had wealth confiscated from them, for example for wars of expansion of territory or for grudges. My example was great, it's a long term sustainable model of a few elite having their foot on the necks of the majority.
when all those folks in the Data Center get the same idea you have. Most won't be very good at it. A few will. They'll try mighty hard since in most places if you don't work, you don't eat...
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My job is not safe. I acknowledge that. But some jobs are safe for the forseeable future. Because robots cannot legally do the job. Just because an artificial intelligence is better at diagnosing some medical conditions than human doctors does not mean that the human doctor's job is at risk because most states limit the practice of medicine to doctors who have a license and a doctor has to complete an undergraduate degree program and medical school and residency and pass a license exam. Similarly for lawyers, most states require the practice of the legal profession be limited to licensed attorneys. Just buy a senator or two to get your profession protected. Add the requirement for "a human" to hold your position.
Well if he would distinguish his statements from all the other buffoons who insist that if only I'd get off the government dole and get a job, all would be right in the world, that would be great!
How many people reading this work in a job that existed 100 or even 50 years ago.
The vast majority of people working today do jobs that simply didn't exist before they where born.
It is also probable that the vast majority of people working now are doing a job that will end before they are dead.
Bathroom attendant in a transgender bathroom. Ain't no robot can do that without laughing its head off at the transsexuals.
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The Russians have won. They have made the world a cesspool of distrust, greed, fear and hate.
That's a robot answer if I've ever heard one! That or you're Vulcan. Whichever.
If you sit in an office looking at a screen for a living, your job will be replaced by an automated process as soon as someone writes a scriptable workflow process to assume those duties. I regularly deal with decision makers who say - If you can replace an employee with a system that only costs twice as much as their annual burden rate, I can sign off on it tomorrow. Three times or more than salary and benefits takes a few weeks for approval. Maybe it won't be one robot process that takes your place, but over time all your job are belong to us. One of the sales reps I work with puts it like this - I can provide you with an idiot savant who can only do 12 things, but do them with absolute accuracy and repeat-ability three shift a day 365 days a year with no benefits, over time or vacation, and who would never call in sick or have a sick child. How much will you pay?
Take every thing you do every day and write down the steps to accomplish them. If you can write them down they can be automated. Today its the routine AR processing and check writing, tomorrow its the scan/capture/index/search/retrieve/respond portion. Then the iPad based receptionist or the first & second level help desk support. Outside of the office there are initiatives like the push to automate over the road truck driving so move to the driving of the delivery trucks to the replaced list. Maybe it can't fully replace an employee, but reducing 1/3 of a workload from 4 people is often better. Once the number of people in the office drops 75% they drop the coffee service and the frequency of sandwich delivery at lunch goes from 3 times a week to 3 times a month so those jobs get cut as well. Sure someone probably has to ride the cherry picker up to bolt the sign on the post for the local mega mart, but how many of those jobs are there?
You may accept, by now, that robots will take over lots of jobs currently held by human workers. But you probably believe they won't be taking yours.
I'm retired. I'd like to see a robot take that.
Yeah, I had to learn to pattern myself after the Vulcans to handle unwanted negative emotions when I was little. Young Vulcans get such flak for being illogical, and I'm like how people just don't get why Vulcans put so much emphasis on being logical in the first place. They all basically start out born with out of control emotions. They need logic to get all that under control. I sometimes think I don't know how the Romulans do it, but when I take a good look, I might be more like the Romulans than the Vulcans.
I've started seeing it as importing jobs. A job is better thought of as a good, the same as any other consumable. It's pointless to view jobs and money as significantly different entities from things that you exchange money for.
Consider it distinguished. I'm sorry for your situation, but I was talking statistically and I'm sure you recognize that you are a sample size of one.
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You don't know my father's side of the family. They are well off, but are rather fond of attacking one another. I have that trait but have curbed it, but I also have health problems preventing me from being well off. My dad sued his brother for really stupid reasons.
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The first 3 are clearly correct.
The next, about poor people, is mostly correct but kind of implies that rich people aren't also destroying this country. Very roughly, the least-destructive tend to be the people between the 50th and 95th percentile.
People gravitate toward religion. The less-explody ones are kind of good, serving as mental vaccination against the more-explody ones.
As for the corporations... :-(
What I've been hearing is that as workers quit or retire, they aren't hired in replacement numbers. On a personal note, Nurse Practitioners have replaced the doctors I would have been seeing.
YouTubers and Microsoft paying in points. Mechanical Turk is also an area that exists, but that can mostly get automated. Oh and research participation, which can also be found on Mechanical Turk.
THIS is why people voted for Trump.
We had enough people out of work who were desperate enough that they voted a demagogue into power.
Add just a few million more people to the unemployment line with no hope of a job and you can permanently kiss the country goodbye.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
It comes down to knowing what it takes to do your job, but not knowing what it takes to doing anyone else job. Most jobs are likely impossible for a robot to take over, an AI can only do so much, a real brain have a better time solving new problems.
talking about.
Gettos aren't "nice little teapots of dependence" (you're right about the misery part though). They're examples of what systemic poverty does to people.
Katrina was exactly what happens when there isn't an organized response to a large scale disaster. It happened because Bush/Cheney diverted resources meant for disaster preparedness to the war in Iraq (and by extension their own pockets).
Folks don't get depressed by dependency. If they did Paul Ryan (who's family's fortune was made paving roads for the government) would be suicidal. People get depressed by constant set backs in their lives caused by the one step forward, two back that is the high cost of being poor.
I'd like to say you're just somebody who never experienced real hardship in lift by I know better. Even folks who experience hardship soon forget it unless their characters are among the best (FDR comes to mind. Liz Warren & Sanders, Alan Grayson, Robert Reich).
Don't kid yourself. You're not being compassionate or decent. At best you're making yourself feel better and at worst you're twisting the knife in the guts of the poor.
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I'm actually 100% dedicated to taking my job and automating it.
If I do my job well, I'll be obsolete soon.
Then I'll get another job and do the same thing.
Cause I am a hooker.
Suddenly the "will never work" experiment with universal income makes sence. Just tax the companies enough to pay for it.
Is primarily composed of foreign scientists and engineers, don't expect the US to be the world leader in standards or innovation. In fact, it's happening right now: foreign students take STEM courses all throughout their educational career.
We have people who don't know the 3 branches of government, think the Bible was a documentary, and think the sun revolves around the earth. In other words: we're fucked.
Now even Boeing is getting into using robots to construct the 777. It's interesting because the robots are essentially at the dumb terminal phase.
Please please please H1B and robotize the lawyers and judges!!!!!!
Robots and automation will replace almost 100% of human workers. And there are some really odd things to think about. Today we talk about the problem of cheap labor in other nations. And that should be a dead issue. Now, it is can my nation's robots work better and cheaper than your nations robots. Entire industries will collapse. And we are also on the verge of the really huge, next big thing. Nobody knows exactly what it will be but it is time. We have a pile of very powerful technologies that are very close to emerging as the various elements are so close to blooming. It just might be a breakthrough in AI that suddenly makes computers far more powerful than anything we imagine at this moment.
Why are we still talking about robots talking our jobs? I think it's the other way around. Why are we not talking about not wasting our time doing things that can easily be done by a robot? In society, we are compensated because of our abilities to create value. So, a human fully focused on creating value should not be worried about being replaced by a robot. In fact, a human not able to create value SHOULD be worried by ANOTHER HUMAN replacing her because of her ability to create value. Even before any robots existed! That nonsense job-creation talk is merely reinforcing an outdated social/political/capitalistic agenda about "creating jobs". I think we should be talking about value creation, and fully focus on narrowing the tech gap, to begin with. Fortunately, that can only be done by humans, and will remain so for several decades to come.
The technology is bringing manufacturing into people's houses. That and artistry (and sticking together for self-preservation) are our only hope. And in a field where all the restaurants work with robots, the way to stand out is to have human help. That is how we fight them.
As humans die out from their self imposed destruction via global warming, our robots will continue on, surviving through the environment we made that was unlivable for us. Someday robots will be made by robots, whose purpose will be to terraform the earth into a habitable place for humans again and they will recreate us from old DNA samples they find or have stored away. Then we'll take some of their jobs.
They're examples of what systemic poverty does to people.
How is utter dependence not part of systemic poverty?
It happened because Bush/Cheney diverted resources meant for disaster preparedness to the war in Iraq (and by extension their own pockets).
That's the response. Few such resources would have been necessary if people had actually evacuated.
If they did Paul Ryan (who's family's fortune was made paving roads for the government) would be suicidal.
You are being obtuse. Surely you recognize that I am not talking about government contractors or people who simply work for the government.
I'd like to say you're just somebody who never experienced real hardship in lift by I know better.
No, you'd be absolutely correct. I've lived a charmed life - my parents were not rich, but they made sure that I had a roof over my head, all the schooling I could eat, and they frankly spoiled me rotten. I used this opportunity to get a useful degree that pays well (engineering), and I haven't had any major health issues. But despite that, I understand just how quickly it can all go south. I could easily have had a car accident or major health problem that caused me to lose my job and health insurance. I could easily have wound up on disability and utter dependence on government. But that's not really what I'm talking about here. My wife works at a hospital in a very poor area. The people who live there are generally able of body, but they use their minds to game the system because that is the incentive structure that they are presented with. Their schools suck, their upbringing is violent, and they develop no skill set beyond gaming the system. I'm not blaming them, I'm not judging them. Yet, from the perspective of the people setting up the programs that are intended to help them, they are indeed acting like "douchebags" - misusing the system. My contention is that the system is what is broken - the incentives are all misaligned with the goals of bringing people out of poverty.
You're not being compassionate or decent.
Defending the status quo is also not compassionate.
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Robots cant take anyone out of their jobs until they can inherit the Brain of human Beings
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I think my job is safe, unless they figure a way to automate retirement.