So my experience with automation-type "improvements" in my workplace is that they reduce some work loads, but encourage people to think less, and result in additional work that should otherwise be unnecessary.
My father had a sixth-grade education and worked in masonry construction for 50 years. He routinely caught mistakes in the architectural plans. Whenever someone doubted him, he would take out his pencil and quickly add up all the fractions on the drawing. If that didn't convinced anyone, he would prove it on the ground. When he found the 36" mistake, he walked the line from one corner, I walked the line from the opposite corner, and we met 36" apart in the middle of a single wall. Since that mistake was caught before the foundations got poured, a $1M mistake after construction got started didn't happen.
From my experience in working in Fortune 500 companies, don't hold your breath for ALL OF THEM to get on the same page.
Sometimes, when planning, it helps to look past the next hour or two.
I usually plan in three to five year cycles. After 20+ years in technical jobs, I'm moving up the ladder into InfoSec. If any automation is being done, I'm writing the scripts.
So your productivity doubled yet salaries have not doubled. This is a big part of the problem.
I can easily do the work of five people but I only get one paycheck. So I cut back my productivity at work and develop alternative revenue streams outside of work. Why climb the corporate ladder when you can own the corporate ladder?
There was decades of mass unemployment following the industrial revolution until wars did enough damage and killed enough people.
We saw the global population double TWICE in the 20th century, which incidentally had two World Wars. The global population won't even double once in the 21st century, peaking at 10B and declining to 6B as all those old people in developed nations die off.
What happens when you only need 1 human to maintain 300 machines who can each do the work of 500 people?
Disappointed Trump supporters who didn't get that one job. Those are the manufacturing jobs that are coming back to America. Not the big factories that hires 1,500 people, but the little factories that hires a dozen people to do the work of 1,500 people. In short, Trump lied.
Capitalism's weakness is automation.
Capitalism, especially crony capitalism, doesn't care about people. Everyone is a cog. If a cog can get replaced with a machine that can produce more widgets for the same buck, the invisible hand of the market dictates replacing the cog.
What about people that don't have the mental flexibility to train for a new job?
I know a pair of computer scientist graduates who stopped learning after leaving the university. They both got good jobs at different companies, got laid off seven years later during the dot com bust, took a six-month "vacation" while drawing unemployment benefits and couldn't find a job because their programming skills were obsolete. Did they teach themselves new skills, go back to school or enroll in a boot camp? Nope. They took jobs as cashier clerks, which they're still doing today. Smart guys who never became lifelong learners and made stupid career choices.
Don't forget half the people in the world have an IQ of less than 100. Screw them?
Is IQ relevant for a job? No job I ever worked for asked about my IQ. Not for manual labor in construction, warehouse and restaurant. Not for technical work in video games, help desk, PC refresh and data center projects, or InfoSec. I've met stupid people in all those jobs who shouldn't have been working in the first place.
A new software tool rolled out at my job. The data is automatically generated but the verification of data is done by people. Other groups hired additional people to manually update each entry in the system. My group requested new features like spreadsheet export/import to make bulk changes via scripts. Although the other groups have two to three times as many people, our small group beats their numbers at the end of the month. If other group use our update methods, layoff notices for redundant people becomes inevitable.
You're assuming that people won't find a different job their current job is automated. The days of working the same job for 50 years and getting a gold watch are long over.
Hillary is right of center, just like her husband and Obama. What made the Clintons and Obama successful was co-opting the Republican agenda with welfare reform (Bill), health care and taxes (Obama), and foreign policy (Hillary).
I think what you meant to say is: "As a moderately retarded person, I voted for Hillary"
Uh, no. I'm an asshole. Otherwise, I wouldn't be working in IT. I voted for Hillary because the alternative was a KGB toadie.
That leads to a huge increase in logistics for them, and an increase in cost.
I had replacement packages that got shipped Same Day Express across the country to be delivered at 9PM at night. That isn't cheap. After I had three packages stolen in one week, and three late night deliveries, I got a post office box for my packages.
What do you think that proves? The recent order was in stock; the older order wasn't, probably. Or fulfilled from two different places.
Amazon need to get their logistical shit together.
Assuming you live in the US, he's actually kind of your POTUS too. Just sayin'.
As a moderate conservative, I voted for Hillary. Trump was neither a conservative nor a Republican, and, just a few short years ago, a Clinton Democrat. If you're going to have a Clinton Democrat in the White House, it should have been Hillary.
Too bad for you. If you shopped locally, it wouldn't be a problem.
Most of the stuff I order through Amazon isn't available locally. For example, New Balance MX623V3 shoes in 13 4E and black. That's not a common size or color. They look like dress shoes, so I can wear them at work and still be comfortable. The price for these can vary from $50 to $150 through Amazon.
You don't really expect Amazon to ship a widget from their warehouse in Kentucky to a warehouse in California just so they put two widgets into one box, do you?
Based on my experience, yes. Otherwise, the order would ship immediately instead of waiting a few days or a week to get everything into a box. I had a recent order that got shipped immediately and an older order that got shipped a few days later.
Especially for the people who think that the stock market will continue to go up even though we're overdue for a recession. I'm building up a cash reserve for when the market falls so I can buy on the way down. That's where the real money is made.
And keep in mind, Obama is still our President for another week.
Obama is training his replacement. That the inexperienced new guy claiming credit isn't unexpected. Obama's next job will be a Uber driver in Washington, D.C., area.
Trump takes credit for everything that makes him look good even though he had nothing to do with it. He will constantly remind people that he is so awesome that he refers to himself in the third-person (i.e., "If Putin likes Donald Trump — guess what, folks, that's called an asset, not a liability."). It's going to be a long four years.
Clearly the only solution is to criminalize their unemployment.
Trump announced at his news conference that 96M+ Americans need a job but can't find one. Need to get all those deadbeats out of the schools and the nursing homes. Anyone who complains about being too young or too old to work should go straight to prison.
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So my experience with automation-type "improvements" in my workplace is that they reduce some work loads, but encourage people to think less, and result in additional work that should otherwise be unnecessary.
My father had a sixth-grade education and worked in masonry construction for 50 years. He routinely caught mistakes in the architectural plans. Whenever someone doubted him, he would take out his pencil and quickly add up all the fractions on the drawing. If that didn't convinced anyone, he would prove it on the ground. When he found the 36" mistake, he walked the line from one corner, I walked the line from the opposite corner, and we met 36" apart in the middle of a single wall. Since that mistake was caught before the foundations got poured, a $1M mistake after construction got started didn't happen.
All of them once the automation takes over.
From my experience in working in Fortune 500 companies, don't hold your breath for ALL OF THEM to get on the same page.
Sometimes, when planning, it helps to look past the next hour or two.
I usually plan in three to five year cycles. After 20+ years in technical jobs, I'm moving up the ladder into InfoSec. If any automation is being done, I'm writing the scripts.
So your productivity doubled yet salaries have not doubled. This is a big part of the problem.
I can easily do the work of five people but I only get one paycheck. So I cut back my productivity at work and develop alternative revenue streams outside of work. Why climb the corporate ladder when you can own the corporate ladder?
And you're assuming there will be a job for them to find in an era when employers are busy laying off half their workforce.
Which employers are laying off half their workforce?
There was decades of mass unemployment following the industrial revolution until wars did enough damage and killed enough people.
We saw the global population double TWICE in the 20th century, which incidentally had two World Wars. The global population won't even double once in the 21st century, peaking at 10B and declining to 6B as all those old people in developed nations die off.
What happens when you only need 1 human to maintain 300 machines who can each do the work of 500 people?
Disappointed Trump supporters who didn't get that one job. Those are the manufacturing jobs that are coming back to America. Not the big factories that hires 1,500 people, but the little factories that hires a dozen people to do the work of 1,500 people. In short, Trump lied.
Capitalism's weakness is automation.
Capitalism, especially crony capitalism, doesn't care about people. Everyone is a cog. If a cog can get replaced with a machine that can produce more widgets for the same buck, the invisible hand of the market dictates replacing the cog.
What about people that don't have the mental flexibility to train for a new job?
I know a pair of computer scientist graduates who stopped learning after leaving the university. They both got good jobs at different companies, got laid off seven years later during the dot com bust, took a six-month "vacation" while drawing unemployment benefits and couldn't find a job because their programming skills were obsolete. Did they teach themselves new skills, go back to school or enroll in a boot camp? Nope. They took jobs as cashier clerks, which they're still doing today. Smart guys who never became lifelong learners and made stupid career choices.
Don't forget half the people in the world have an IQ of less than 100. Screw them?
Is IQ relevant for a job? No job I ever worked for asked about my IQ. Not for manual labor in construction, warehouse and restaurant. Not for technical work in video games, help desk, PC refresh and data center projects, or InfoSec. I've met stupid people in all those jobs who shouldn't have been working in the first place.
A new software tool rolled out at my job. The data is automatically generated but the verification of data is done by people. Other groups hired additional people to manually update each entry in the system. My group requested new features like spreadsheet export/import to make bulk changes via scripts. Although the other groups have two to three times as many people, our small group beats their numbers at the end of the month. If other group use our update methods, layoff notices for redundant people becomes inevitable.
You're assuming that people won't find a different job their current job is automated. The days of working the same job for 50 years and getting a gold watch are long over.
Hillary is neither a moderate nor a conservative.
Hillary is right of center, just like her husband and Obama. What made the Clintons and Obama successful was co-opting the Republican agenda with welfare reform (Bill), health care and taxes (Obama), and foreign policy (Hillary).
I think what you meant to say is: "As a moderately retarded person, I voted for Hillary"
Uh, no. I'm an asshole. Otherwise, I wouldn't be working in IT. I voted for Hillary because the alternative was a KGB toadie.
If you have a problem with things being stolen from your front step, don't have them delivered to your front step.
I got a post office box. That was two years before Amazon started shipping orders in multiple boxes.
They have it together.
Two orders delivered in eight boxes suggest that they don't have their shit together.
They understand their costs better than you do.
They must be squeezing their suppliers if they can afford to send an extra six boxes and packing materials for two orders.
That leads to a huge increase in logistics for them, and an increase in cost.
I had replacement packages that got shipped Same Day Express across the country to be delivered at 9PM at night. That isn't cheap. After I had three packages stolen in one week, and three late night deliveries, I got a post office box for my packages.
What do you think that proves? The recent order was in stock; the older order wasn't, probably. Or fulfilled from two different places.
Amazon need to get their logistical shit together.
Assuming you live in the US, he's actually kind of your POTUS too. Just sayin'.
As a moderate conservative, I voted for Hillary. Trump was neither a conservative nor a Republican, and, just a few short years ago, a Clinton Democrat. If you're going to have a Clinton Democrat in the White House, it should have been Hillary.
I'm glad now you watch Fox only because all the media news channels I see are constantly bashing him.
Sorry, I don't watch Fox News. I stopped watching TV 30 years ago.
Too bad for you. If you shopped locally, it wouldn't be a problem.
Most of the stuff I order through Amazon isn't available locally. For example, New Balance MX623V3 shoes in 13 4E and black. That's not a common size or color. They look like dress shoes, so I can wear them at work and still be comfortable. The price for these can vary from $50 to $150 through Amazon.
You don't really expect Amazon to ship a widget from their warehouse in Kentucky to a warehouse in California just so they put two widgets into one box, do you?
Based on my experience, yes. Otherwise, the order would ship immediately instead of waiting a few days or a week to get everything into a box. I had a recent order that got shipped immediately and an older order that got shipped a few days later.
Especially for the people who think that the stock market will continue to go up even though we're overdue for a recession. I'm building up a cash reserve for when the market falls so I can buy on the way down. That's where the real money is made.
Macy's was dying long before that joke of a boycott.
So what? Whatever happens Before Trump is now irrelevant.
And that's important?
It is for the media that gave Trump $2B+ in free advertising during the election.
I think what's important is the reality, not the spin.
Tell the media.
The important bit from the article is that we get 100,000 more jobs.
Are these good paying middle class jobs that Trump promised to bring back to America? I doubt it.
I think you're focusing on the wrong goals.
Tell the media.
And additionally, you're imagining a fantasy situation just so you can complain how bad that fantasy situation is.
Tell the media.
But hey, fantasy simulation seems like it'll be the next big thing in VR.
I'll pass. I'm sure someone will get a kick out of Trump's Golden Showers VR.
http://www.thewrap.com/social-media-jokes-trump-golden-showers/
Knock yourself out.
Tell the media.
And keep in mind, Obama is still our President for another week.
Obama is training his replacement. That the inexperienced new guy claiming credit isn't unexpected. Obama's next job will be a Uber driver in Washington, D.C., area.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-obama-jokes-about-becoming-an-uber-driver-after-leaving-office/
Why should credit even matter?
Trump takes credit for everything that makes him look good even though he had nothing to do with it. He will constantly remind people that he is so awesome that he refers to himself in the third-person (i.e., "If Putin likes Donald Trump — guess what, folks, that's called an asset, not a liability."). It's going to be a long four years.
They're not stupid. They are not about to give the competition any help if they can avoid it.
If that was the case, they shouldn't have released Swift as open source.
Holy first world problems.
This wouldn't be a problem if my neighbors didn't steal the packages left on my doorstep.
Clearly the only solution is to criminalize their unemployment.
Trump announced at his news conference that 96M+ Americans need a job but can't find one. Need to get all those deadbeats out of the schools and the nursing homes. Anyone who complains about being too young or too old to work should go straight to prison.
But you can rest assured that Trump himself will try to claim some credit. That's just how he rolls.
Will he take responsibility for the 10,000+ layoffs after encouraging supporters to boycott Macy's?
http://adage.com/article/cmo-strategy/trump-supporters-celebrate-macy-s-job-cuts/307381/