It's not the stated reason that matters. It would be too hard politically to pass such a change without a massive debate that would drain a giant amount of time from everyone involved. And here, we have a sane choice done over some easily fixable detail (recompressing everything as.xz, already in progress, would allow Gnome3 to fit).
Great kudos to Joey Hess. And if you have doubts he's right, consider what Linus said a year ago. Or, take a look at recent Slashdot, Phoronix, or even gnome.org articles.
Heh, I go the opposite way: I have all eyecandy disabled, and use Compiz for features like:
* quick arbitrary zoom. Good for adjusting pixel-perfect graphics or debugging antialiasing. And, with nettles starting to pollinate, I find myself with blurry eyes, having to zoom random stuff just to be able to read.
* partial transparency of windows. I always make primary windows full-screen; a small almost-opaque media player window in the right upper corner allows watching something while coding, and if some unwrapped line of text happens to go that far, it is visible just enough to read it without having to switch windows.
* windows not losing their contents when switched away. With any other window manager, a SDL/etc program becomes a broken window while being debugged.
I did try it, works well. Heck, that's what I'm testing at work, to reduce unnecessary churn.
Problems I noticed so far: 1. it doesn't migrate Gnome2 settings, 2. remmina from wheezy interacts badly with mate-screensaver while in full-screen mode. On the other hand, they already have fixed quite a few old bugs.
I feel really uneasy about using some random repository though, for something as big as a whole desktop environment.
It's a real pity Debian wheezy won't have MATE. I currently use XFCE+Compiz 8.4 at home, but XFCE lacks quite a bit of polish one could take for granted in Gnome 2. Gnome 3 needs a number of extensions for even basic usability, and considering the direction the upstream is going, things are going worse rather than better.
Joey Hess recently made a controversial commit of making XFCE the default desktop environment in the installer. I fully agree with him, and hope people will recognize this commit (if it prevails...) as another warning for Gnome. The reasons stated were lack of place on CD 1 and Gnome3 having a totally different interface based on graphics drivers, but hey, since usability regressions are always debatable, this works too. I guess it's easier to add missing bits to XFCE than trying to stop Gnome from going down.
It's Flash that's not ready for prime time, but there's no reason Flash should ever be allowed to run without your explicit consent, as 99% of Flash is ads. As browsers go, there's nothing even close to Firefox, if you want any privacy or customization. Also, speed.
All those folks blabbing that "Chrome is faster than Firefox" compare stock installs, without even such basics as AdBlock. After installing and configuring[1] those, Firefox runs circles around Chrome, as it doesn't have to contact fifty different servers and run scripts from there.
[1]. Ghostery is redundant with well-configured AdBlock, but unless you want to spend time improving your block list like me, you can slap it in and have a decent level of protection.
Have you actually tied the "Gnome Classic" mode? It is made of regressions. The first few things I tried: putting most used menu items on the panel (right-click on it in the menu). Oops, can't do anything with menu items anymore. Oh, and the panel itself is gone, too.
The next thing I tried, was finding out why RhythmBox doesn't show up in the tray like it was configured to. The answer? No more tray, it has been removed "because programs abused it" -- even though the only case of abuse I remember was Remmina (a Gnome component) sticking an icon there even though it's a regular foreground tool. And what has been placed instead of the tray? An icon that shows you that your network cable is plugged in, an unremovable instant messenger status (who uses instant messengers these days?), and a reminder what my name is (I kind of can remember that myself, thanks).
Third issue I immediately fell into, was an "envelope" icon popping up, with oh-so-important messages that a song ended. In Gnome 2, XFCE and any sane desktop environment, this message pops up in a corner, lingers for around a second then slides back off. Yet in Gnome 3, it somehow needs to persist until dealt with.
Let's say I didn't keep trying for long. Gnome Shell at least has a novel (if ludicrous and IMO unergonomic) interface, but Gnome Classic seems to be strictly worse than Gnome 2.
While there have been some doping incidents in the past, they are now monitored so closely that cold medicine can cause a disqualification.
Cold medicine, yes, modern dope, no. If you believe current sport is anything but a contest who has better chemistry teams, I have a bridge to sell to you. Most of the stuff is designed to be similar to regular body chemistry enough to make detection hard and to look innocent enough to avoid disqualification.
Mailinator is better for this: opening new yahoo accounts is a hassle, and if you reuse them, your logins can be connected together. With mailinator, you pick a new one every time and that's it.
You don't need to suffer IE, there are Firefox long-term stable releases for the likes of you (and I'd prefer if they were the primary download). Currently, that's version 10.
I refuse to call current "releases" anything more than glorified trunk snapshots.
First, you'll seek twitter therapy and twitter assimilation resistance resistance.
No sane, or insane-but-ok person reads twitter already. Nullroute the blighters. I meant mailing lists and IRC. Twitter is hardly better than Fecesbook.
your tweets will be indistinguishable from 99% of the population
Since 99% of world's population doesn't use twitter, this is already done.
There's a big difference between a test run with no immediate plan to make more, and sustained production. In the former case, especially the price doesn't matter -- fixed costs dwarf any per-item ones so the price is only a wild guess.
This said, the amount of memory on Pi cripples it, and it's good to see attempts to make devices without this flaw.
And what about RIAA+MPAA? Both wings of the NeoCon Party? Monsanto? Any Muslim who obeys the Koran? Christian fundies? The whole of Wall Street? ${RACE}-supremacists? Communist Party of China?
There's lots of evil both in Facebook and WalMart, but they're nowhere near the top of evilness chart.
Or, if we want it to stay an actual automobile, what about putting a dummy inside? If you get to the finish line with the dummy damaged, you're disqualified. Thus, we could have no risk to actual humans while still keeping the basic rules.
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And more important, you need to define what can be "property". In various times and places, such definitions included people and ideas.
It's not the stated reason that matters. It would be too hard politically to pass such a change without a massive debate that would drain a giant amount of time from everyone involved. And here, we have a sane choice done over some easily fixable detail (recompressing everything as .xz, already in progress, would allow Gnome3 to fit).
Great kudos to Joey Hess. And if you have doubts he's right, consider what Linus said a year ago. Or, take a look at recent Slashdot, Phoronix, or even gnome.org articles.
Heh, I go the opposite way: I have all eyecandy disabled, and use Compiz for features like:
* quick arbitrary zoom. Good for adjusting pixel-perfect graphics or debugging antialiasing. And, with nettles starting to pollinate, I find myself with blurry eyes, having to zoom random stuff just to be able to read.
* partial transparency of windows. I always make primary windows full-screen; a small almost-opaque media player window in the right upper corner allows watching something while coding, and if some unwrapped line of text happens to go that far, it is visible just enough to read it without having to switch windows.
* windows not losing their contents when switched away. With any other window manager, a SDL/etc program becomes a broken window while being debugged.
I did try it, works well. Heck, that's what I'm testing at work, to reduce unnecessary churn.
Problems I noticed so far: 1. it doesn't migrate Gnome2 settings, 2. remmina from wheezy interacts badly with mate-screensaver while in full-screen mode. On the other hand, they already have fixed quite a few old bugs.
I feel really uneasy about using some random repository though, for something as big as a whole desktop environment.
It's a real pity Debian wheezy won't have MATE. I currently use XFCE+Compiz 8.4 at home, but XFCE lacks quite a bit of polish one could take for granted in Gnome 2. Gnome 3 needs a number of extensions for even basic usability, and considering the direction the upstream is going, things are going worse rather than better.
Joey Hess recently made a controversial commit of making XFCE the default desktop environment in the installer. I fully agree with him, and hope people will recognize this commit (if it prevails...) as another warning for Gnome. The reasons stated were lack of place on CD 1 and Gnome3 having a totally different interface based on graphics drivers, but hey, since usability regressions are always debatable, this works too. I guess it's easier to add missing bits to XFCE than trying to stop Gnome from going down.
Try buying Azawad separately.
It's Flash that's not ready for prime time, but there's no reason Flash should ever be allowed to run without your explicit consent, as 99% of Flash is ads. As browsers go, there's nothing even close to Firefox, if you want any privacy or customization. Also, speed.
All those folks blabbing that "Chrome is faster than Firefox" compare stock installs, without even such basics as AdBlock. After installing and configuring[1] those, Firefox runs circles around Chrome, as it doesn't have to contact fifty different servers and run scripts from there.
[1]. Ghostery is redundant with well-configured AdBlock, but unless you want to spend time improving your block list like me, you can slap it in and have a decent level of protection.
So cheating with wallhacks is bad? Not for a christian -- Jesus abused an item cloning bug himself.
I don't understand why anyone would tie the frequency of input polling (ie, the model) to the display framerate (ie, view).
Yet OpenGL manages efficiency without breaking compatibility every version.
Have you actually tied the "Gnome Classic" mode? It is made of regressions. The first few things I tried: putting most used menu items on the panel (right-click on it in the menu). Oops, can't do anything with menu items anymore. Oh, and the panel itself is gone, too.
The next thing I tried, was finding out why RhythmBox doesn't show up in the tray like it was configured to. The answer? No more tray, it has been removed "because programs abused it" -- even though the only case of abuse I remember was Remmina (a Gnome component) sticking an icon there even though it's a regular foreground tool. And what has been placed instead of the tray? An icon that shows you that your network cable is plugged in, an unremovable instant messenger status (who uses instant messengers these days?), and a reminder what my name is (I kind of can remember that myself, thanks).
Third issue I immediately fell into, was an "envelope" icon popping up, with oh-so-important messages that a song ended. In Gnome 2, XFCE and any sane desktop environment, this message pops up in a corner, lingers for around a second then slides back off. Yet in Gnome 3, it somehow needs to persist until dealt with.
Let's say I didn't keep trying for long. Gnome Shell at least has a novel (if ludicrous and IMO unergonomic) interface, but Gnome Classic seems to be strictly worse than Gnome 2.
While there have been some doping incidents in the past, they are now monitored so closely that cold medicine can cause a disqualification.
Cold medicine, yes, modern dope, no. If you believe current sport is anything but a contest who has better chemistry teams, I have a bridge to sell to you. Most of the stuff is designed to be similar to regular body chemistry enough to make detection hard and to look innocent enough to avoid disqualification.
It does suffer from a criminally bad screen proportion, though.
Buy two of these, glue them together vertically :p
well-established typographic rules
Well, remind me then which company gave us Comic Sans.
Mailinator is better for this: opening new yahoo accounts is a hassle, and if you reuse them, your logins can be connected together. With mailinator, you pick a new one every time and that's it.
Note the lawsuit is about exporting to oppressive regimes, not importing into one.
You don't need to suffer IE, there are Firefox long-term stable releases for the likes of you (and I'd prefer if they were the primary download). Currently, that's version 10.
I refuse to call current "releases" anything more than glorified trunk snapshots.
First, you'll seek twitter therapy and twitter assimilation resistance resistance.
No sane, or insane-but-ok person reads twitter already. Nullroute the blighters. I meant mailing lists and IRC. Twitter is hardly better than Fecesbook.
your tweets will be indistinguishable from 99% of the population
Since 99% of world's population doesn't use twitter, this is already done.
> Curse words.
Hardly any, but mostly due to many years on a MUD with strict rules. Abusing "damn" and so on, though.
> Angry responses to other people
Hell yeah.
> including swearing and use of the word "hate."
Got a bigger vocabulary, but yeah.
> Using the word "we."
Check, to a big extent.
> Using periods.
You mean, so those with no punctuation are not morons but normal people? Blah. Check.
> Using filler words such as 'blah'
See above.
> and 'I mean'
Check.
>and 'um.'
"hrm", "hmm" and "ghrmblah" (see also two paragraphs above)
So, you mean, is there any hope for me?
There's a big difference between a test run with no immediate plan to make more, and sustained production. In the former case, especially the price doesn't matter -- fixed costs dwarf any per-item ones so the price is only a wild guess.
This said, the amount of memory on Pi cripples it, and it's good to see attempts to make devices without this flaw.
$25 and you can buy it, vs $62 vapourware.
And what about RIAA+MPAA? Both wings of the NeoCon Party? Monsanto? Any Muslim who obeys the Koran? Christian fundies? The whole of Wall Street? ${RACE}-supremacists? Communist Party of China?
There's lots of evil both in Facebook and WalMart, but they're nowhere near the top of evilness chart.
real animal fur. Had no problems so far.
Just wait for some PETArds...
To establish free trade in digital goods, you'd have to overhaul the entire international copyright system, not a simple undertaking.
I think both Dwayne Hicks and Ellen Ripley voiced a plan that would fit here well.
Or, if we want it to stay an actual automobile, what about putting a dummy inside? If you get to the finish line with the dummy damaged, you're disqualified. Thus, we could have no risk to actual humans while still keeping the basic rules.