Thanks to idiots like you, terrorism became meaningless label to indicate any group of people that we do not like. Thanks, USA.
And about actual topic... neoluddism lives forever.
(un)fortunatley, this will not be that fast. Every empire falls for hundred years. USA will be no exception.
But I agree that future historians will mark our times as beginning of end of USA, ironically starting just after fall of the other world superpower.
"Yeah, that's all we have."
You are lying, boy. You really should think up before stating things that can be defeated by 5-minute google search.
"damn those who ask for evidence,"
Nah, I call you loon because you first ask for evidence and later pretend that said evidence does not exist, is forged and all of that classic excuses of conspiracy theorist crap.
BTW new, previously unseen videos straight from compound was released. Surely these are also forged, riiiight? Oh, how easy life conspiracy loons have.
This article is detached from reality. While he had valid points, gems like "Unless your system was supposed to be hackable then it shouldn't be hackable" are just ludicrous. What the fuck he want, totally rewrite entire system after each detected security hole??
"good luck trying to making any influence or change in the direction of one of the products produced by these guys."
Ever heard about "forks"? They were already executed many times when majority of community did not like direction where project was going. So, as true AC, you spew crap.
"Really the only way to create cheap access to space is to ether create a fully reusable spaceplane or some non reaction way of sending just the payload to space"
You "forgot" about fully reusable rockets. Why not them? Because they do not have these cool wings?
Oil and money to his buddies are just nice side bonus. He value second term more than that.
"Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with Osama"
I did not claim that. I agree on this point.
"Bush himself even said in 2002-2003 or so that he didn't even care about Osama any more, probably because he knew he was already dead."
Or because he cound not catch him, so he downplayed Osama. See, there is more thatn one way to interpret something. I know, unbeveliable.
"There's a reason we haven't seen any new Al Qaeda recruitment movies with bin Laden in 10 years,"
There are photos/movies with Osama taken after december 2001, you know. Google it (after removing this clog about death itself). For example, here.
"and what few movies have come out have been recycling footage of him."
So you claim that any footage/video of Osama taken after december 2001 is fake? Who would thought, conspiracy theorist dismissing incovienient evidence against his claims as "forged". Hilarious, if very, very predictable.
I see one basic problem (aside from videos/footage taken after dec 2001): why Al Quaeda did not announced/admitted/whatever death of Osama in december 2001, but admitted it now? What interest they have in playing along with official version? Not that I expect consistency from conspiracy theories.:)
No, it is not possible with current material science. At least not space elevator at Earth. Carbon nanotubes are promising, but we cannot make them in any significant quantity with minimal required quality.
To survive loss of Earth, humanity would have to colonize at least few star systems before this. Offworld colonies in our solar system WILL shrivel and die without Earth. To survive independently, we would need magical nanomachines that convert anything into anything. And I do not see those any time (read: thousand years, if ever) soon.
"nuclear reactors are now officially not 100% safe"
They never was, eco-loonie. Only ones that claimed it are nuclear-loonies, suprisingly similiar to you in mentality.
"I see your standards of proof are so low you'll sign off on the death penalty without a trial or hearing the evidence."
I commented on alleged crimes commited by Osama, not how he should be treated for it.
"We *know* Bush ordered the USA to war using carefully selected and doctored intel, knowing it to be far less likely then not. All we have to link Bin Laden with the 9/11 attacks is coincidental and hearsay. A conveniently bad confession video that was never fully displayed or available for vetting."
Yeah, because all we have is one "conveniently bad confession video" or "coincidental and hearsay". This was sarcasm, by the way. Don't worry, you can always cover ears and sing LALALA. Try it, your fellows from other side practice it everyday. Loon is loon.
"If you don't believe that, but you do believe the government's latest story about Osama, then you're a hypocrite"
There are other possibilities than "goverments always says truth" and "goverment always lies". There is no hipocrisy in taking in account this fact. But I understand you, don't worry. False dilemma fallacy is practically obligatory in conspiracy theories.
"The government's been keeping Osama "alive" all this time"
Bullshit. Bush would stick corpse of Osama all time on TV in December 2001. He invaded Iraq exactly because he could not catch Osama, wanted placate people wanting revenge and get second term. That Iraq had nothing to do with Osama is little detail that no one cared about. In other words, I claim Bush would prefer catching and/or killing Osama publicly to invading Iraq.
"to keep a boogeyman around to instill fear in the public, and to justify their continued actions in Afghanistan and Iraq."
So now suddenly they do not need "instill fear in the public" and "justify their continued actions in Afghanistan and Iraq"? Funny how conspiracy theories work.
WTF you are talking about, I wonder.
Oh, right, how two thousand year old supersition trumpets our knowledge that we have from science, because your cellphone lost reception. Pitful.
"keep the faith in science man, don't tell them all it's all theory"
Considering where you are and with what means you doing it, I can only conclude you are complete moron.
Generally no. It can be possible in some cases, but still, no general solution. And with religion it is waste of time anyway. It will take hundred of years - if ever - until average mind will be inocculated against mind viruses like this.
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Thanks to idiots like you, terrorism became meaningless label to indicate any group of people that we do not like. Thanks, USA.
And about actual topic... neoluddism lives forever.
This rule apply in court, not here.
If they have good food, they would not need to do NDAs.
(un)fortunatley, this will not be that fast. Every empire falls for hundred years. USA will be no exception. But I agree that future historians will mark our times as beginning of end of USA, ironically starting just after fall of the other world superpower.
Aren't you cute. You probably even believe this is why USA intervened in various parts of world.
Sciencist that are also believer is neccesairly practicing double-think.
"Yeah, that's all we have."
You are lying, boy. You really should think up before stating things that can be defeated by 5-minute google search.
"damn those who ask for evidence,"
Nah, I call you loon because you first ask for evidence and later pretend that said evidence does not exist, is forged and all of that classic excuses of conspiracy theorist crap.
BTW new, previously unseen videos straight from compound was released. Surely these are also forged, riiiight? Oh, how easy life conspiracy loons have.
"I've written many programs with no bugs in them at all."
Aren't you fucking genius.
This article is detached from reality. While he had valid points, gems like "Unless your system was supposed to be hackable then it shouldn't be hackable" are just ludicrous. What the fuck he want, totally rewrite entire system after each detected security hole??
"good luck trying to making any influence or change in the direction of one of the products produced by these guys."
Ever heard about "forks"? They were already executed many times when majority of community did not like direction where project was going. So, as true AC, you spew crap.
"Really the only way to create cheap access to space is to ether create a fully reusable spaceplane or some non reaction way of sending just the payload to space"
You "forgot" about fully reusable rockets. Why not them? Because they do not have these cool wings?
Oil and money to his buddies are just nice side bonus. He value second term more than that.
:)
"Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with Osama"
I did not claim that. I agree on this point.
"Bush himself even said in 2002-2003 or so that he didn't even care about Osama any more, probably because he knew he was already dead."
Or because he cound not catch him, so he downplayed Osama. See, there is more thatn one way to interpret something. I know, unbeveliable.
"There's a reason we haven't seen any new Al Qaeda recruitment movies with bin Laden in 10 years,"
There are photos/movies with Osama taken after december 2001, you know. Google it (after removing this clog about death itself). For example, here.
"and what few movies have come out have been recycling footage of him."
So you claim that any footage/video of Osama taken after december 2001 is fake? Who would thought, conspiracy theorist dismissing incovienient evidence against his claims as "forged". Hilarious, if very, very predictable.
I see one basic problem (aside from videos/footage taken after dec 2001): why Al Quaeda did not announced/admitted/whatever death of Osama in december 2001, but admitted it now? What interest they have in playing along with official version? Not that I expect consistency from conspiracy theories.
No, it is not possible with current material science. At least not space elevator at Earth. Carbon nanotubes are promising, but we cannot make them in any significant quantity with minimal required quality.
I do not know why so much people have thing for winged spacecrafts. Like hauling dead weight was ever good thing. Good grief.
Columb did not wait for steel ships.
To survive loss of Earth, humanity would have to colonize at least few star systems before this. Offworld colonies in our solar system WILL shrivel and die without Earth. To survive independently, we would need magical nanomachines that convert anything into anything. And I do not see those any time (read: thousand years, if ever) soon.
Sorry, but goverments routinely do things that normal people does not feel as needed.
"nuclear reactors are now officially not 100% safe"
They never was, eco-loonie. Only ones that claimed it are nuclear-loonies, suprisingly similiar to you in mentality.
"I see your standards of proof are so low you'll sign off on the death penalty without a trial or hearing the evidence."
I commented on alleged crimes commited by Osama, not how he should be treated for it.
"We *know* Bush ordered the USA to war using carefully selected and doctored intel, knowing it to be far less likely then not. All we have to link Bin Laden with the 9/11 attacks is coincidental and hearsay. A conveniently bad confession video that was never fully displayed or available for vetting."
Yeah, because all we have is one "conveniently bad confession video" or "coincidental and hearsay". This was sarcasm, by the way. Don't worry, you can always cover ears and sing LALALA. Try it, your fellows from other side practice it everyday. Loon is loon.
"If you don't believe that, but you do believe the government's latest story about Osama, then you're a hypocrite"
There are other possibilities than "goverments always says truth" and "goverment always lies". There is no hipocrisy in taking in account this fact. But I understand you, don't worry. False dilemma fallacy is practically obligatory in conspiracy theories.
"The government's been keeping Osama "alive" all this time"
Bullshit. Bush would stick corpse of Osama all time on TV in December 2001. He invaded Iraq exactly because he could not catch Osama, wanted placate people wanting revenge and get second term. That Iraq had nothing to do with Osama is little detail that no one cared about. In other words, I claim Bush would prefer catching and/or killing Osama publicly to invading Iraq.
"to keep a boogeyman around to instill fear in the public, and to justify their continued actions in Afghanistan and Iraq."
So now suddenly they do not need "instill fear in the public" and "justify their continued actions in Afghanistan and Iraq"? Funny how conspiracy theories work.
WTF you are talking about, I wonder.
Oh, right, how two thousand year old supersition trumpets our knowledge that we have from science, because your cellphone lost reception. Pitful.
Cover ears and scream LALALA. People like you should have a lot of practice in this anyway.
"keep the faith in science man, don't tell them all it's all theory"
Considering where you are and with what means you doing it, I can only conclude you are complete moron.
Generally no. It can be possible in some cases, but still, no general solution. And with religion it is waste of time anyway. It will take hundred of years - if ever - until average mind will be inocculated against mind viruses like this.
This should be AR, not AC. Anonymous Retard.