"What does the US have to do with how Egypt treated it's people?"
How about fact that USA sponsored Mubarak's regime (among other things providing tear-gas used to surpress protests and generally giving 1.3bln $ anually for Egyptian military)? And it is not only one dictatorship helped up by USA, but I digress.
Do you still claim that USA have nothing to do with this?
"you are sounding like a raving lunatic"
Yes, sure, only raving lunatics do not like best and most free country in world, USA. ZSRR sang same tune - and my country know this music very well, being under Reds from IIWW to '89.
Yes, you should hope for that outcome. This is, after all, only justification for supporting murderous regimes by hipocritical fuckers from USA goverment. Losing Egypt, Libia, etc. is political failure. Not only losing them, but also morphing into something else than fundamentalist islamic regimes is not moral failure, but complete moral bankruptcy of USA.
"MS drove a dump truck full of money up to the author's house, and it went away."
Seems carrot is more successful than stick, judging how other homebrew cases ended up...
If CIA (and USA) would want, it would topple half of dictatorships of this world without any problems. In some cases just stopping sponsoring them would be enough.
"A lot of times things that aren't deemed "morally acceptable" by the masses need to be done for the greater good of a country"
Like what? Something like making boom in block and killing russia cizitens to (re)start Chechen war by russia secret services? Hell, why shooting so far, you have Guatamino already. I can't wait for true American Branded Concentration Camps(TM)(C)(R)(whatever).
BTW, someone told you that you are morally abhorrent?
"how can the US (or any country) make a law that can possibly apply to what a citizen of another country does outside the US?"
As other said, yes they can and will.
Anyway, problem is different - that Yankees thinks that Earth belong to them (reminds me of world map according to USA courtesy of uncyclopedia - you know which). And later you USAns wonder why so much people do not like you... so much that they cannot be dismissed as terrorists or other doubleunplusgood persons.
They already did it. You need key to decode it, though. This key will be released immediately if anything funny will happen to Assagne. Judging by tempo of releasing cables, this should be enough for a while.
"But we found out later that she was really working for the company!" ...predenting as someone that have no rights to do so. Exactly like someone that really do not have these rights to "Super-Happy Wacky Tsuki-Dechi Girls #127".
"Should Microsoft still be releasing patches for Windows 95? Bob? DOS 6.22?!?"
Which word from "You have to support what out there in common use" you do not understand?
This entire discussion is interesting. If there is no difference between UK and Sweden (in context of handing WL figurehead to USA), then why Assagne opposes it so much?
- He thinks he will be found guilty under Sweden rape laws?
- Stalling tactic, just for points? (most probably)
- He geniuely believe USA can get him easier from Sweden than UK for some reason? (yes, USA would want get him, but cannot in this way, if analysis from discussion is right)
"What is it to us if another country wants to cut off hands, arms, legs, feet and/or heads, throw acid in women's faces, export terrorism, or whatever"
Thought that is there non-zero chance that you sincerely believe that things mentioned above are real reasons that USA did what it did - this thought scares me.
Sanity is overrated in some quaters indeed.
And in day three you would got overflowed with criticism because of anarchy, deaths and what have you caused by lack od american forces. It would be very possible to end your presidency... prematurely. Yes, life is not fair.
Yeah. I am no fan of USA staying there and here, but this is clear case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't".
Fun fact: republicans are (or was, I do not know current state of war with Eurasia) against private commerce in space. This endangers pork. This is not specific to republicans, it is delicious hipocrisy that hits me.
If this "Liberty" contraption win, I do not think it will be on merit, but politics. Free market? What free market.
Incidentally, I have bridge to sell to you.
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"What does the US have to do with how Egypt treated it's people?"
How about fact that USA sponsored Mubarak's regime (among other things providing tear-gas used to surpress protests and generally giving 1.3bln $ anually for Egyptian military)? And it is not only one dictatorship helped up by USA, but I digress.
Do you still claim that USA have nothing to do with this?
"you are sounding like a raving lunatic"
Yes, sure, only raving lunatics do not like best and most free country in world, USA. ZSRR sang same tune - and my country know this music very well, being under Reds from IIWW to '89.
I love strawman arguments.
Yes, you should hope for that outcome. This is, after all, only justification for supporting murderous regimes by hipocritical fuckers from USA goverment. Losing Egypt, Libia, etc. is political failure. Not only losing them, but also morphing into something else than fundamentalist islamic regimes is not moral failure, but complete moral bankruptcy of USA.
USA already is afraid of Internet, too.
Of course. You can release it under any license. Enforcing it is of course different matter.
"MS drove a dump truck full of money up to the author's house, and it went away." Seems carrot is more successful than stick, judging how other homebrew cases ended up...
If CIA (and USA) would want, it would topple half of dictatorships of this world without any problems. In some cases just stopping sponsoring them would be enough.
"A lot of times things that aren't deemed "morally acceptable" by the masses need to be done for the greater good of a country"
Like what? Something like making boom in block and killing russia cizitens to (re)start Chechen war by russia secret services? Hell, why shooting so far, you have Guatamino already. I can't wait for true American Branded Concentration Camps(TM)(C)(R)(whatever).
BTW, someone told you that you are morally abhorrent?
"How?"
I have money, I make rules. And incidentally rule that money is free speech is one of them.
Now you know.
"how can the US (or any country) make a law that can possibly apply to what a citizen of another country does outside the US?"
As other said, yes they can and will.
Anyway, problem is different - that Yankees thinks that Earth belong to them (reminds me of world map according to USA courtesy of uncyclopedia - you know which). And later you USAns wonder why so much people do not like you... so much that they cannot be dismissed as terrorists or other doubleunplusgood persons.
They already did it. You need key to decode it, though. This key will be released immediately if anything funny will happen to Assagne. Judging by tempo of releasing cables, this should be enough for a while.
For corporate fascists surely it is important and make sense. Yay, Godwin law.
Companies != peoples. They have different rights. Very, very different.
"But we found out later that she was really working for the company!"
...predenting as someone that have no rights to do so. Exactly like someone that really do not have these rights to "Super-Happy Wacky Tsuki-Dechi Girls #127".
"Should Microsoft still be releasing patches for Windows 95? Bob? DOS 6.22?!?"
Which word from "You have to support what out there in common use" you do not understand?
But... but... CHERNOBYL!!!111oneoneiamecoretard
"but after Chernobyl"
You just lose credibility.
"I'm a bit wary about claims of safe fission reactors."
If you are ignorant about what exactly happened in Chernobyl, how and why - then sure.
Google already did that, and not just once.
This entire discussion is interesting. If there is no difference between UK and Sweden (in context of handing WL figurehead to USA), then why Assagne opposes it so much?
- He thinks he will be found guilty under Sweden rape laws?
- Stalling tactic, just for points? (most probably)
- He geniuely believe USA can get him easier from Sweden than UK for some reason? (yes, USA would want get him, but cannot in this way, if analysis from discussion is right)
"Poor random nobodies get the railroad."
Like some certain B. Manning.
"What is it to us if another country wants to cut off hands, arms, legs, feet and/or heads, throw acid in women's faces, export terrorism, or whatever"
Thought that is there non-zero chance that you sincerely believe that things mentioned above are real reasons that USA did what it did - this thought scares me. Sanity is overrated in some quaters indeed.
And in day three you would got overflowed with criticism because of anarchy, deaths and what have you caused by lack od american forces. It would be very possible to end your presidency... prematurely. Yes, life is not fair.
Yeah. I am no fan of USA staying there and here, but this is clear case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't".
Soo.... Ares I all over again.
This can only end well.
Fun fact: republicans are (or was, I do not know current state of war with Eurasia) against private commerce in space. This endangers pork. This is not specific to republicans, it is delicious hipocrisy that hits me.
If this "Liberty" contraption win, I do not think it will be on merit, but politics. Free market? What free market. Incidentally, I have bridge to sell to you.