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Libya Warns Against Use of Facebook
An anonymous reader writes "Many Libyan Internet activists have declared their support for the pro-democracy movements and revolutions in the Middle East. After seeing the power of the people succeed in Tunisia and Egypt, they created groups on Facebook to call for political and economic reforms in Libya. Libya's dictator, Muammar Gaddafi, has responded by warning against the use of Facebook."
But this isn't one of them.
"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
Help, help, I'm being repressed!
50,000 characters used to live here.
The "old guard" has no clue. Stiffling communication today will not work much longer.
The free information exchange makes people want to be free.
Libyan dictator warns against use of Facebook, 40 protesters injured
Well if Gaddafi thinks i will take care of his farmville while he cleans this mess up he has another thing coming!
Now Gaddafi and Streisand are in the same club. I hope they get along.
Like is it Gaddafi, Khadafy, Qadhafi, Qathafi, Gadaafi, Qadhdhafi, or something else?
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I mean, it's not like, duh, obvious or something? Left and right dictatorships are sucumbing to public protest, riot and facebook. And they *all* did the very same thing first, restrict the ways in which citizens can organize themselves, which in turn angried the citizens even more, and the whole thing totally spirals out of control. Dear would-be dictator of some soon to come fledgling and hopeful dictatorship. If you let it get as far as that you have to forbid people from using facebook, you're doing it wrong.
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Gaddafi, Khadafy, Qadhafi, Qathafi, Gadaafi, Qadhdhafi!
Come on!!
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It goes to show that enough people want something, they will get it. This works for good and evil purposes. The people who question middle east democracy will lose either a lot of money or influence. It makes me wonder if people in the US would have the will to ask for their freedoms back. The Patriot act, and the TSA are a few of the major examples of how we are moving away from the rule of law (as of the Constitution) and the will of the people. There are many reasons for fragmentation, but I don't believe you could enough people on the same page to scare the government. It's easy to complain here and other web sites about the situation, it is quite another to stand up for what you believe in when a gun is pointed at your head.
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Would using proxies help avoid the attention of Libyan secret police?
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
How did they get the message out?
Hey, how's it going?
Then explain this:
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I gotta say, with the exception of this (and of course all things fashion-related), Gaddafi and I don't agree on much.
Can someone tell me why the fuck there are many services using the fucking libyan tld? Gheddafi is a fucking moron who used to guide a fucking nation in the fucking rogue nations list, and also to pay terrorirsts left and right.
What makes me angrier is that even fucking playboy is using libyan url shorteners for peddling its naked women, bloody idiots.
All of the the recent disturbances are the masses angry with bad administration, and are happening in countries with high unemployment.
It's sad to see no protests in the richer undemocratic countries (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait). It seems like prosperity trumps democracy.
Iran and Libya don't care what the world thinks, and don't care about body counts.
(If at first you don't succeed, do it different next time!)
For all you hip Libyan geeks out there (and I think you qualify if you're reading slashdot comments), listen up:
It's time to diversify. Facebook is quick and easy to set up groups and organize. Woo. But as the article points out, it's also an easy target. But the Internet is bigger then that. Make your own page, conscript a forum somewhere, run a chat server, or a BBS for that matter. Tell people about it. Link to it. Replicate posts from one system to another. Use the full force of the Internet. There's no reason to stay within the walled garden of facebook, and there are plenty of reasons to spread out.
And if the Libyan government turns their ire to the Internet on the whole? A lot more people will rise up with you. It's a pretty good rule of thumb that when a government tries to shut down the Internet, it's time to shut down the Government.
How is this different from our government saying people should not look at the Wikileaks site?
There used to be a "rule of thirds" advocated by some historians of the French Revolution. For a revolution to happen, you needed at least 1/3 of the population to actively support it, no more than 1/3 actively opposed, and around 1/3 to be neutral (less if you had more than 1/3 supporting).
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Copying the approach taken by others in blocking the internet is a good idea.
Look how well it worked for the leadership in Tunisia and Egypt.
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Been to TFA, then to its source, and I couldn't find the exact quote of Gaddafi's words.
Do we really need to comment on unfounded rumors?
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Guns don't kill people tweeting kills people.
time to pump a fat boy in his pup tent again
the only line of death is the one on that mirror in front of you.
It is interesting that the article has no quote where Gaddafi makes this statement. I believe it is being made up by the press to encourage the use of Facebook. I think even Gaddafi knows that the best way to get someone to do something is to tell them they shouldn't.
DING!
We have a winner.
Couldn't have said it better myself, and I tried.
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...warns about the use of The Google.
Brothers in arms.
can someone run the numbers on the probablity that with mass social tools such as these .. idealistic in base concept.
fb , myspace , ect ect ect.. what the #'s would say on the probablity for a unified world governing body
that may have a slight Old American taste to it? (i mean in the sense that the citizen is the boss , elects the officials however
they the citizen maintain priority not the elected individuals) ya'know
we've got 2 social revolutions in 2 different countries on topics that a few years ago wouldnt have happened
so why not?
Libya is running one of the top social networking tools out there! All those BIT.LY links! .LY is the Internet country code top-level domain for LIBYA.
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but it is totally relevant here as well.
February 17, 2011
UNREST IN THE MIDDLE EAST: A SPECIAL REPORT
Footage of self-immolations in Algeria, clashes between police and protesters in Yemen and Bahrain, government reshufflings in Jordan and fledgling street demonstrations in Iran could lead to the impression of a domino effect under way in the Middle East in which aging autocrats are on the verge of being uprooted by Tunisia-inspired revolutionary fervor. A careful review of unrest in the Middle East and North Africa, however, exposes a very different picture.
Many of the protests sprouting up in these countries have a common thread, and that alone is cause for concern for many of the region's regimes. High youth unemployment, a lack of political representation, repressive police states, a lack of housing and rising commodity prices are among the more common complaints voiced by protesters across the region. Social media has been used both as an organizing tool for protesters and a surveillance enabler by regimes. More generally, the region is witnessing a broad, public reaction to the layers of corruption that have become entrenched around these regimes over the past several decades.
Regime responses to those complaints also have been relatively consistent, including subsidy handouts; changes to the government, in many cases cosmetic; promises of job growth, electoral reform, and a repeal of emergency rule; and in the case of Egypt, Yemen and Algeria, public dismissal of illegitimate succession plans. Anti-regime protesters in many of these countries have faced off with mostly for-hire pro-regime supporters tasked with breaking up the demonstrations, the camel cavalry in Egypt being the most vivid example of this tactic.
While the circumstances at first glance appear dire for most of the
regimes, each of these states also has unique circumstances. While Tunisia
can be considered a largely organic, successful uprising, for most of
these states, the regimes retain the tools to suppress dissent, divide the
opposition and maintain power. In others, those engaging in the civil
unrest are pawns in behind-the-scenes power struggles. In all, the assumed
impenetrability of the internal security apparatus and the loyalties and
intentions of the army remain decisive factors in determining the
direction of the unrest.
Egypt: The Military's 'Revolution'
In the past several days Egypt has not witnessed a popular revolution but
a carefully managed succession by the military. The demonstrations,
numbering around 200,000 to 300,000 at their peak, were genuinely inspired
by the regime turnover in Tunisia, pent-up socio-economic frustrations
(youth unemployment in Egypt stands out around 25 percent) and extreme
disillusionment with former President Hosni Mubarak's regime.
It must be recognized that the succession crisis in Egypt was playing out
between the country's military elite and Mubarak well before protests
began in Egypt on Jan. 25. The demonstrators, encouraged by both internal
and external pro-democracy groups, were in fact a critical tool the
military used to maneuver Mubarak out while preserving the regime. So far,
the Egyptian military has maintained the appearance of being receptive to
opposition demands. Over time, however, the gap between opposition and
military elite interests will grow, as the latter works to maintain its
clout in the political affairs of the state while also containing a
perceived Islamist threat.
Tunisia: Not Over Yet
Though Tunisia had some domestic pro-democracy groups before unrest began
in December 2010, Tunisia saw one of the region's more organic uprisings.
Years of frustration with corruption and the political and business
monopoly of former President President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali's regime,
high youth unemployment (estimated at around 30 percent in the 15-29 age
group), and rising commodity prices fueled the unrest. The self-immolation
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Be seeing you...
I followed the Egyptian uprising from day one, and at the beginning it was not at all about democracy. The Egyptian people would have been happy to replace Mubarak with another authoritarian, albeit benevolent, dictator. The pro-democracy people came in later and essentially hijacked the revolution when it became clear that Mubarak was on the way out.
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