Waze has been around for over 6 years. If this were a legitimate concern why can he not point to a single incident of someone doing exactly this rather than merely spreading FUD?
NYPD Cop killer Ismaaiyl Brinsley was using a traffic app called Waze to track law enforcement’s movements, NYC Alerts tweeted on Monday. According to an available screenshot, Brinsley was tracking two officers who were almost 4 miles away from him in Staten Island at 10:44 PM EST since the beginning of December.
It should be easier for a citizen to find the police. They are public servants, and they are there to help us. Right? An app that shows where the nearest police officer is located should even be tax funded, possibly.
Maybe you could explain why 911 isn't going to work but this phone app would?
The "nearest" police officer may not be available to help with your problem since she may be engaged in another issue. Is your plan to bounce from "nearest" police officer to "nearest" police officer until you find one available to go back to where you had an issue to help you? And that is an improvement on calling 911 how?
You're trying to put lipstick on a pig of an idea.
Even though the police are "public servants," that doesn't make you their boss.
Many people on Slashdot put far too much effort in trying to rationalize bad ideas.
Whoever did not take the lie as real was seen as being too soft, and there was no venue for the truth even if someone in intelligence had done a Kim Philby.
I looked for the words "untrue" in your post and didn't see them. That's the real problem, the reports are true, so you have to try to disparage the source.
And no, the Daily Caller isn't "extremist right wing." Forbes is an ordinary news source.
The problem is that you aren't concerned with truth, only political alignment.
Ex-IRS official Lois Lerner reportedly pleaded with her supervisor not to deeply inquire about whether the IRS had unfairly targeted Tea Party and conservative groups for tax-exempt status just ahead of the 2012 presidential election, according to new emails obtained by a government watchdog group.
Joseph H. Grant, former Tax Exempt and Government Entities Division deputy director, was specifically asked by Lerner to refrain from visiting the tax agency's Cincinnati office and keep from asking specific questions related to any Congressional inquiries, according to emails obtained by Judicial Watch through a Freedom of Information Act Lawsuit.
There are guerilla wars, insurgencies, or even open warfare, going on across the world by Islamic extremists to impose their view of society, including Iraq, Syria, Yemen, the Phillippines and many other places. What makes you think Europe is immune to this?
One in six French citizens sympathises with the Islamist militant group ISIS, also known as Islamic State, a poll released this week found.
The poll of European attitudes towards the group, carried out by ICM for Russian news agency Rossiya Segodnya, revealed that 16% of French citizens have a positive opinion of ISIS. This percentage increases among younger respondents, spiking at 27% for those aged 18-24.
Although it is commonly attempted, the use of traffic deaths is a poor metric to determine if a conflict exists. (Fewer Americans died in the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor than died in traffic that year, and yet that led the country to war.) There is a portion of Europe's population that rejects integration and aims to replace Europe's civilization even if it takes hundreds of years. This is probably as easy as they will be to contain. Since Europe is heading towards a demographic free fall and it keeps brining in the populations hostile towards European values something is going to change. Either a way will be found to pacify them or remove them, native Europeans will start having larger families, or eventually they will comprise a large enough element of the population that they will be accommodated in some fashion - probably one that grows over time.
What makes you think that Airbus will be involved in a criminal investigation by the FBI? Do you have some inside information there?
As I previously documented, Boeing has already been the subject of European espionage. Does the method matter that much to you?
I find it amusing that you don't seem to understand that Airbus, like every other important part of European technical and defense industries, is already a target of Chinese espionage, never mind Russia or Iran. The Chinese have proven very successful and stealing and commercializing secrets from many nations, and may ultimately use them against your country if they haven't already.
Perhaps your experience is different than mine, but I doubt that relying upon hyperbole when evaluating arguments is going to produce a sound outcome. Your fancy is resulting in rubbish.
The US military isn't "too high strung," isn't "trained to kill everything that moves," and has been used on many occasions to aid the civil authorities in the restoration and maintenance of law and order. A few examples include the use of elements of the US Army 7th Infantry Division, 1st Marine Division in the aftermath of the Rodney King riots in Los Angeles, and the use of elements of the 327th Airborne Battle Group of the 101st Airborne Division in Little Rock to enforce a federal court desegregation order.
The US military seems to be another area in which your comments are highly subject to error. Your exit from the United States will prove more successful if you avoid commenting on it. Perhaps you could take up commenting on the mlitary of the nation in which you now reside?
The Maginot Line was largely successful in repelling direct assault. German forces were forced to go around it in the interests of time. The meaningful difference between Dien Bien Phu and the nuclear plants is the possibility of rapid response by external forces to assist the garrison, and this time la Légion étrangère would be available for intervention rather than invested, as would the la Gendarmerie nationale.
Multiple zones are needed, including zone de sécurité, zone d'exclusion.
The Boeing Co. was among the targets of a French government plan for a massive spying effort to learn U.S. technological secrets and trade strategies, according to classified documents.
The plan targeted 49 high-tech companies, 24 financial institutions and six U.S. government agencies with important roles in international trade, the French documents show.
The plan focused on research breakthroughs and marketing strategies of leading-edge U.S. aerospace and defense contractors that compete directly with French firms.
The French also sought advance knowledge of the bargaining positions of American negotiators in trade talks involving France. . . .
Among the most coveted U.S. secrets:
-- Research, test results, production engineering and sales strategies for Boeing and McDonnell-Douglas. Both compete against the French-led European conglomerate Airbus Industrie.
The European Parliament's recent report on Echelon, written by British journalist Duncan Campbell, has sparked angry accusations from continental Europe that U.S. intelligence is stealing advanced technology from European companies so that we can -- get this -- give it to American companies and help them compete. My European friends, get real. True, in a handful of areas European technology surpasses American, but, to say this as gently as I can, the number of such areas is very, very, very small. Most European technology just isn't worth our stealing.
Why, then, have we spied on you? The answer is quite apparent from the Campbell report -- in the discussion of the only two cases in which European companies have allegedly been targets of American secret intelligence collection. Of Thomson-CSF, the report says: "The company was alleged to have bribed members of the Brazilian government selection panel." Of Airbus, it says that we found that "Airbus agents were offering bribes to a Saudi official." These facts are inevitably left out of European press reports.
That's right, my continental friends, we have spied on you because you bribe. Your companies' products are often more costly, less technically advanced or both, than your American competitors'. As a result you bribe a lot. So complicit are your governments that in several European countries bribes still are tax-deductible.
When we have caught you at it, you might be interested, we haven't said a word to the U.S. companies in the competition. Instead we go to the government you're bribing and tell its officials that we don't take kindly to such corruption. They often respond by giving the most meritorious bid (sometimes American, sometimes not) all or part of the contract. This upsets you, and sometimes creates recriminations between your bribers and the other country's bribees, and this occasionally becomes a public scandal....
If the FBI starts to attack Tor and VPN users, those users are going to fight back. If they are not in the US the FBI might not be able to stop them doing it either.
All this kind of thing does is make the US a more legitimate target for cyber attacks. The NSA and GCHQ are already fair game for hacking because they try to illegally hack you, so it's just self defence.
There isn't any part of you that thought that trying to "hack" or otherwise attack the FBI, NSA, or GCHQ for engaging in law enforcement activity might be a bad idea, is there? And I would also guess you pay no attention to the people that go to jail for overseas hacking?
Do you harbor similar venom towards Russia or China, since they engage in similar actions? Or is all the venom directed at the US/UK/West?
If you have standard cubes you could see about having the desk surfaces mounted at standing desk height. Then all you need is an adjustable chair/stool. You might be able to either arrange that outright, or for a future (and probably inevitable) move as companies are fond of swapping people around.
If you have any health issues or concerns you might talk to your doctor to see if a standing desk would help, and if so get a note. A company that wouldn't do it based on preference might be more inclined to accommodate it to address a health issue. (Of course it is better to avoid the issue to begin with.)
Freedom is *far* more at risk from our own governments than it ever was from terrorists.
Really? How many newspapers feel free to publish cartoons featuring Mohammed as a character? Is it the government that causes that fear? There has been a recent terrorist attack over this resulting in a dozen deaths, with more threatened. And that isn't the only problem from this vector.
Like most problems I'm sure this one will get better by simply ignoring it, or even better, pretending that measures to solve it are the cause of it.
Because terrorism is a red herring, and this looks like a shiny new power they can grab without much hassle from the rabble. Fear is a great vehicle for stripping away liberties.
Fear is a great vehicle? You mean like fear of government, the same governments that provide universal health care in Europe that everyone claims is the very height of civilization? So you can't trust government when it comes to stopping people with a demonstrated and announced desire to poison, shoot, or blow you up, but you can trust them to pump your body full of chemicals, with the power of life or death over you, to decide if you get food or water when you are too sick or weak to take care of yourself? Given the persistent confusion on these points this will probably not end well.
And your.sig? Pay attention to the bold: "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Those that pay no heed to their security are unlikely to remain free.
Until the 1990s, Iraq had perhaps the best university system in the Middle East...
And what happened in August, 1990?
Anyone? Anyone?
Iraq invaded Kuwait, which lead to the destruction of most of the Iraqi Army, massive damage to the economy and infrastructure, and harsh international sanctions that Saddam magnified the effect of by diverting money intended for food and medicine to buying weapons and building many large, expensive palaces.
From your article:
Iraqi universities began their decline in the 12 years after the 1991 Gulf War. As the international sanctions regime cut off journal subscriptions and equipment purchases, academic salaries fell precipitously, and 10,000 Iraqi professors left the country. Those faculty who remained were increasingly closed off from new developments in their fields.
The terrible situation Saddam created was made even worse by the Islamists and insurgents.
The head of Arabic studies at Baghdad University was shot 32 times when his car was ambushed on the way to work.
Abdul Latif al-Mayah was murdered after he had appeared on al-Jazeera television. Police described the killing as "professional".
In Ramadi, the president of the university, Abdul Hadi Rajab al-Hitawi, was dragged from his home and bundled into the boot of a car. A ransom demand was received a few days later.
Both men are among the growing number of intellectuals to be targeted in Iraq, a phenomenon that is resulting in an unprecedented brain drain as those who can move abroad increasingly do so before they or their families join the list of their colleagues killed or kidnapped.
At least 182 academics have been killed since the invasion in 2003 and there have been many more kidnappings and murder attempts.
And it is not just university professors who are being targeted. In the past four months alone 331 school teachers have been murdered and nine medical workers were killed in a single day in the northern city of Mosul last month.
Exodus is not new to the country. Iraqis who could flee Saddam Hussein's repressive rule did: Poor Shiite Muslims sneaked across the border into Iran, and Sunni Arabs crossed the mountains into Syria or the desert to Jordan. People often waited years for permission to attend a seminar or do business in another country and then would disappear there. Hussein began holding such people's families hostage to guarantee their return.
Many of those émigrés flooded back into Iraq when Hussein fell. But the country's instability and daily regimen of violence have made some reconsider their return. Others who stayed throughout Hussein's rule are finally saying goodbye to their homeland now.
Iraq still had engineering and medical schools after it was liberated. The Bush administration facilitated partnerships between Iraqi institutions and those in the US and Europe, ending Iraq's isolation from the international community and helped its efforts to rebuild after the long night of Saddam's rule.
Saddam did immense damage to the country by diverting its resources into arms deals and building palaces instead of education, medicine, and other necessities. That is before you get into the political repression, mass murder, and so on.
The Islamists that you can't quite bring yourself to condemn specifically targeted Iraqi intellectuals for murder, people like professors, doctors, and engineers.
Pro tip: Don't let your butt hurt over policy disagreements cause you to lie, i.e. "until GWB destroyed them".
Irony alert: Somehow I can't imagine you suggesting to any other country or group of terrorists that they not attack another country full of engineers: the US. Funny how that works.
Most of Europe has meaning immigration of people from Muslim nations occurring. But China doesn't and it is suffering its own unrest and attacks (as you may have heard).
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You seem to be building the case that he was a traitor, and embracing it.
You and your "hero" don't seem to either understand or support democratic governance.
Remember this statement?
If this were a legitimate concern why can he not point to a single incident of someone doing exactly this rather than merely spreading FUD?
Apparently it is a legitimate concern and your view isn't worth much.
BTW - That "single" incident resulted in two assassinated police officers.
Waze has been around for over 6 years. If this were a legitimate concern why can he not point to a single incident of someone doing exactly this rather than merely spreading FUD?
You seem to have missed some news stories.
NYPD Cop Killer Used App to Track Police Movements Since Early December
NYPD Cop killer Ismaaiyl Brinsley was using a traffic app called Waze to track law enforcement’s movements, NYC Alerts tweeted on Monday. According to an available screenshot, Brinsley was tracking two officers who were almost 4 miles away from him in Staten Island at 10:44 PM EST since the beginning of December.
It should be easier for a citizen to find the police. They are public servants, and they are there to help us. Right? An app that shows where the nearest police officer is located should even be tax funded, possibly.
Maybe you could explain why 911 isn't going to work but this phone app would?
The "nearest" police officer may not be available to help with your problem since she may be engaged in another issue. Is your plan to bounce from "nearest" police officer to "nearest" police officer until you find one available to go back to where you had an issue to help you? And that is an improvement on calling 911 how?
You're trying to put lipstick on a pig of an idea.
Even though the police are "public servants," that doesn't make you their boss.
Many people on Slashdot put far too much effort in trying to rationalize bad ideas.
Whoever did not take the lie as real was seen as being too soft, and there was no venue for the truth even if someone in intelligence had done a Kim Philby.
FTFY
I looked for the words "untrue" in your post and didn't see them. That's the real problem, the reports are true, so you have to try to disparage the source.
And no, the Daily Caller isn't "extremist right wing." Forbes is an ordinary news source.
The problem is that you aren't concerned with truth, only political alignment.
You first.
Obama Administration REFUSES To Release Documents About White House Role in IRS Scandal
THOUSANDS OF DOCUMENTS: IRS Gave Taxpayer Information To White House
In 'Lost' Trove Of IRS Emails, 2,500 May Link White House To Confidential Taxpayer Data
There is plenty more digging to do, especially given the stalling by the administration.
you idiot.
they didn't falsely attack private citizens.
they weren't an attack tool of the DNC.
they ddnt lie to congress.
the entire IRS "scandal" was manufactured from whole cloth.
There seems to be a very large gap between your understanding of events and the facts. Here is a modest start for you.
IRS admits targeting conservatives for tax scrutiny in 2012 election
The IRS Scandal, Day 623
Ex-IRS official Lois Lerner reportedly pleaded with her supervisor not to deeply inquire about whether the IRS had unfairly targeted Tea Party and conservative groups for tax-exempt status just ahead of the 2012 presidential election, according to new emails obtained by a government watchdog group.
Joseph H. Grant, former Tax Exempt and Government Entities Division deputy director, was specifically asked by Lerner to refrain from visiting the tax agency's Cincinnati office and keep from asking specific questions related to any Congressional inquiries, according to emails obtained by Judicial Watch through a Freedom of Information Act Lawsuit.
Lerner wanted to work for Obama activist group
Lois Lerner talked about working for Obama’s group Organizing for Action while she had official oversight over it
I was wondering how long it would take before the slashdot conservative majority brought out that conspiracy conjecture again.
So, you're here to "correct the record" and explain why the IRS really didn't do it even though they admitted it? Clueless and hopeless.
The question isn't "did they do it," but how much are they covering up and how close does it get to the seats of Democratic party power?
IRS admits targeting conservatives for tax scrutiny in 2012 election
The IRS Scandal, Day 623
Every company should take measures to ensure that no agency can spy on them, simple as that.
On that we can agree.
There are guerilla wars, insurgencies, or even open warfare, going on across the world by Islamic extremists to impose their view of society, including Iraq, Syria, Yemen, the Phillippines and many other places. What makes you think Europe is immune to this?
16% of French Citizens Support ISIS, Poll Finds
One in six French citizens sympathises with the Islamist militant group ISIS, also known as Islamic State, a poll released this week found.
The poll of European attitudes towards the group, carried out by ICM for Russian news agency Rossiya Segodnya, revealed that 16% of French citizens have a positive opinion of ISIS. This percentage increases among younger respondents, spiking at 27% for those aged 18-24.
Poll reveals 40pc of Muslims want sharia law in UK
Ignorance and denial are a poor basis for public policy, although they are often the fodder for moderation.
Although it is commonly attempted, the use of traffic deaths is a poor metric to determine if a conflict exists. (Fewer Americans died in the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor than died in traffic that year, and yet that led the country to war.) There is a portion of Europe's population that rejects integration and aims to replace Europe's civilization even if it takes hundreds of years. This is probably as easy as they will be to contain. Since Europe is heading towards a demographic free fall and it keeps brining in the populations hostile towards European values something is going to change. Either a way will be found to pacify them or remove them, native Europeans will start having larger families, or eventually they will comprise a large enough element of the population that they will be accommodated in some fashion - probably one that grows over time.
What makes you think that Airbus will be involved in a criminal investigation by the FBI? Do you have some inside information there?
As I previously documented, Boeing has already been the subject of European espionage. Does the method matter that much to you?
I find it amusing that you don't seem to understand that Airbus, like every other important part of European technical and defense industries, is already a target of Chinese espionage, never mind Russia or Iran. The Chinese have proven very successful and stealing and commercializing secrets from many nations, and may ultimately use them against your country if they haven't already.
Perhaps your experience is different than mine, but I doubt that relying upon hyperbole when evaluating arguments is going to produce a sound outcome. Your fancy is resulting in rubbish.
The US military isn't "too high strung," isn't "trained to kill everything that moves," and has been used on many occasions to aid the civil authorities in the restoration and maintenance of law and order. A few examples include the use of elements of the US Army 7th Infantry Division, 1st Marine Division in the aftermath of the Rodney King riots in Los Angeles, and the use of elements of the 327th Airborne Battle Group of the 101st Airborne Division in Little Rock to enforce a federal court desegregation order.
The US military seems to be another area in which your comments are highly subject to error. Your exit from the United States will prove more successful if you avoid commenting on it. Perhaps you could take up commenting on the mlitary of the nation in which you now reside?
The Maginot Line was largely successful in repelling direct assault. German forces were forced to go around it in the interests of time.
The meaningful difference between Dien Bien Phu and the nuclear plants is the possibility of rapid response by external forces to assist the garrison, and this time la Légion étrangère would be available for intervention rather than invested, as would the la Gendarmerie nationale.
Multiple zones are needed, including zone de sécurité, zone d'exclusion.
I'm sure Airbus cared when the GCHQ snooped on the details of a bidding process and handed over the details to Boeing.
Probably not, since that doesn't appear to be what happened.
Boeing Called A Target Of French Spy Effort
The Boeing Co. was among the targets of a French government plan for a massive spying effort to learn U.S. technological secrets and trade strategies, according to classified documents.
The plan targeted 49 high-tech companies, 24 financial institutions and six U.S. government agencies with important roles in international trade, the French documents show.
The plan focused on research breakthroughs and marketing strategies of leading-edge U.S. aerospace and defense contractors that compete directly with French firms.
The French also sought advance knowledge of the bargaining positions of American negotiators in trade talks involving France. . . .
Among the most coveted U.S. secrets:
-- Research, test results, production engineering and sales strategies for Boeing and McDonnell-Douglas. Both compete against the French-led European conglomerate Airbus Industrie.
Why We Spy on Our Allies - By R. James Woolsey, ... former Director of Central Intelligence
The European Parliament's recent report on Echelon, written by British journalist Duncan Campbell, has sparked angry accusations from continental Europe that U.S. intelligence is stealing advanced technology from European companies so that we can -- get this -- give it to American companies and help them compete. My European friends, get real. True, in a handful of areas European technology surpasses American, but, to say this as gently as I can, the number of such areas is very, very, very small. Most European technology just isn't worth our stealing.
Why, then, have we spied on you? The answer is quite apparent from the Campbell report -- in the discussion of the only two cases in which European companies have allegedly been targets of American secret intelligence collection. Of Thomson-CSF, the report says: "The company was alleged to have bribed members of the Brazilian government selection panel." Of Airbus, it says that we found that "Airbus agents were offering bribes to a Saudi official." These facts are inevitably left out of European press reports.
That's right, my continental friends, we have spied on you because you bribe. Your companies' products are often more costly, less technically advanced or both, than your American competitors'. As a result you bribe a lot. So complicit are your governments that in several European countries bribes still are tax-deductible.
When we have caught you at it, you might be interested, we haven't said a word to the U.S. companies in the competition. Instead we go to the government you're bribing and tell its officials that we don't take kindly to such corruption. They often respond by giving the most meritorious bid (sometimes American, sometimes not) all or part of the contract. This upsets you, and sometimes creates recriminations between your bribers and the other country's bribees, and this occasionally becomes a public scandal. ...
If the FBI starts to attack Tor and VPN users, those users are going to fight back. If they are not in the US the FBI might not be able to stop them doing it either.
All this kind of thing does is make the US a more legitimate target for cyber attacks. The NSA and GCHQ are already fair game for hacking because they try to illegally hack you, so it's just self defence.
There isn't any part of you that thought that trying to "hack" or otherwise attack the FBI, NSA, or GCHQ for engaging in law enforcement activity might be a bad idea, is there? And I would also guess you pay no attention to the people that go to jail for overseas hacking?
Do you harbor similar venom towards Russia or China, since they engage in similar actions? Or is all the venom directed at the US/UK/West?
Take a 5 minute walk every hour if you can.
If you have standard cubes you could see about having the desk surfaces mounted at standing desk height. Then all you need is an adjustable chair/stool. You might be able to either arrange that outright, or for a future (and probably inevitable) move as companies are fond of swapping people around.
If you have any health issues or concerns you might talk to your doctor to see if a standing desk would help, and if so get a note. A company that wouldn't do it based on preference might be more inclined to accommodate it to address a health issue. (Of course it is better to avoid the issue to begin with.)
Freedom is *far* more at risk from our own governments than it ever was from terrorists.
Really? How many newspapers feel free to publish cartoons featuring Mohammed as a character? Is it the government that causes that fear? There has been a recent terrorist attack over this resulting in a dozen deaths, with more threatened. And that isn't the only problem from this vector.
Oxford University Press bans use of pig, sausage or pork-related words to avoid offending Muslims
Salafist Muslim Group Forms 'Sharia Police' Patrol in Germany
Anti-gay, anti-alcohol: London's "Sharia patrol"
Swedish Police Release Extensive Report Detailing Control Of 55 ‘No-Go Zones’ By Muslim Criminal Gangs
Like most problems I'm sure this one will get better by simply ignoring it, or even better, pretending that measures to solve it are the cause of it.
Because terrorism is a red herring, and this looks like a shiny new power they can grab without much hassle from the rabble. Fear is a great vehicle for stripping away liberties.
Fear is a great vehicle? You mean like fear of government, the same governments that provide universal health care in Europe that everyone claims is the very height of civilization? So you can't trust government when it comes to stopping people with a demonstrated and announced desire to poison, shoot, or blow you up, but you can trust them to pump your body full of chemicals, with the power of life or death over you, to decide if you get food or water when you are too sick or weak to take care of yourself? Given the persistent confusion on these points this will probably not end well.
And your .sig? Pay attention to the bold: "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Those that pay no heed to their security are unlikely to remain free.
Saddam was a local bully boy member of the socialist Baath party that worked his way up to seize power through cunning and ruthlessness.
Almost all of Iraq's arms came from the Soviet Union or the People's Republic of China, a little from France, and very little from anywhere else.
I assume you didn't know that and were looking to blame the US for him?
Until the 1990s, Iraq had perhaps the best university system in the Middle East...
And what happened in August, 1990?
Anyone? Anyone?
Iraq invaded Kuwait, which lead to the destruction of most of the Iraqi Army, massive damage to the economy and infrastructure, and harsh international sanctions that Saddam magnified the effect of by diverting money intended for food and medicine to buying weapons and building many large, expensive palaces.
From your article:
Iraqi universities began their decline in the 12 years after the 1991 Gulf War. As the international sanctions regime cut off journal subscriptions and equipment purchases, academic salaries fell precipitously, and 10,000 Iraqi professors left the country. Those faculty who remained were increasingly closed off from new developments in their fields.
The terrible situation Saddam created was made even worse by the Islamists and insurgents.
Killings lead to brain drain from Iraq - 17 Apr 2006
The head of Arabic studies at Baghdad University was shot 32 times when his car was ambushed on the way to work.
Abdul Latif al-Mayah was murdered after he had appeared on al-Jazeera television. Police described the killing as "professional".
In Ramadi, the president of the university, Abdul Hadi Rajab al-Hitawi, was dragged from his home and bundled into the boot of a car. A ransom demand was received a few days later.
Both men are among the growing number of intellectuals to be targeted in Iraq, a phenomenon that is resulting in an unprecedented brain drain as those who can move abroad increasingly do so before they or their families join the list of their colleagues killed or kidnapped.
At least 182 academics have been killed since the invasion in 2003 and there have been many more kidnappings and murder attempts.
And it is not just university professors who are being targeted. In the past four months alone 331 school teachers have been murdered and nine medical workers were killed in a single day in the northern city of Mosul last month.
(Mosul? That rings a bell: Isis executioners 'kill gays by hurling them off roofs' in Mosul )
Professionals Fleeing Iraq As Violence, Threats Persist - January 23, 2006
Exodus is not new to the country. Iraqis who could flee Saddam Hussein's repressive rule did: Poor Shiite Muslims sneaked across the border into Iran, and Sunni Arabs crossed the mountains into Syria or the desert to Jordan. People often waited years for permission to attend a seminar or do business in another country and then would disappear there. Hussein began holding such people's families hostage to guarantee their return.
Many of those émigrés flooded back into Iraq when Hussein fell. But the country's instability and daily regimen of violence have made some reconsider their return. Others who stayed throughout Hussein's rule are finally saying goodbye to their homeland now.
A "close call" you say?? I'll bet it is.
ISIS Crucifies Eight Rival Rebels For Being Too 'Moderate,' Will Display Bodies For Three Days In Syrian Town Square
Isis executioners 'kill gays by hurling them off roofs' in Mosul
Nigeria: Over 2000 Feared Dead in 'Deadliest Massacre in Boko Haram's History'
Iraq still had engineering and medical schools after it was liberated. The Bush administration facilitated partnerships between Iraqi institutions and those in the US and Europe, ending Iraq's isolation from the international community and helped its efforts to rebuild after the long night of Saddam's rule.
Saddam did immense damage to the country by diverting its resources into arms deals and building palaces instead of education, medicine, and other necessities. That is before you get into the political repression, mass murder, and so on.
The Islamists that you can't quite bring yourself to condemn specifically targeted Iraqi intellectuals for murder, people like professors, doctors, and engineers.
Pro tip: Don't let your butt hurt over policy disagreements cause you to lie, i.e. "until GWB destroyed them".
Irony alert: Somehow I can't imagine you suggesting to any other country or group of terrorists that they not attack another country full of engineers: the US. Funny how that works.
Most of Europe has meaning immigration of people from Muslim nations occurring. But China doesn't and it is suffering its own unrest and attacks (as you may have heard).