Which is why you still have gear options on an automatic (or why it says P-R-N-O-D-2-1 on my shifter. Newer ones don't say O anymore), for when you need to decide something instead of the car (also, means I can still downshift and floor it).
My High School has a team. Team 007 forever! (Why yes, I was partly involved with the robotics team, and had a lot of friends on it. How did you guess?)
It's listed as "supported" but unless something has changed recently the X.org driver is broken on i8xx series. Features that used to be supported (like say, hardware rendering) were broken when I last checked (last tried about a year ago). Gave the same performance as the vesa driver.
Modern Linux doesn't run right on hardware that old (and I don't just mean GNOME/KDE). Just try and run Fedora (or Ubuntu, etc) on a Pentium III with Intel i845 graphics. Driver support is no longer existent. You could try on 12yo hardware with real graphics, but I still don't think it'll work right (I hate KMS drivers).
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; SunOS sun4u; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 Mozilla/4.7C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP30) (actually, I don't have access to my Octane to really grab it ATM).
It's dependent on the version of the protocol supported by the client as well. Just like MS RDP on Mac does not support remote gateways. RDC 2.0 doesn't support RemoteApp - it supports opening a desktop session with the shell changed to whatever program you want, but it does not support RemoteApp.
GNOME 3 still has issues. Don't have a supported graphics card? Want to get a useful error message other then "Something crashed, now you must log out?" Want to have a system tray? Nope, not in GNOME 3.
You realize you only mentioned VNC and services that use VNC as things you've tried, right? And VNC is very inefficient compared to just about anything (X over network, ssh -CX, RDP, NX, etc)
- Later RDP versions allow you to forward just specific applications, in addition to the entire workspace. I don't know if FreeRDP supports this feature yet, but it is built into the protocol.
Outside of Windows, this really doesn't exist. I think there is a paid-for program on Mac OS (not the MS RDP) that does this.
No. The issue is the license(CDDL) and GPL don't play together in a way that lets you ship CDDL software with GPL software (but the other way around is fine).
Yes they can. My client that's using them, however, wants Solaris on them because their client is using Solaris (Oracle DB on Solaris 10). The Solaris 11 idea was to have them be used to using it (it was an extra system) to be familiar and ready to support it when their client moves to it.
Also a note, in college we took some SPARC servers in college and installed Red Hat on them. Ran much better with RH then Solaris (I think they had S9 on them before).
Now that I'm thinking about it, I think it was a different server that I tried that on, a Sun Fire (don't remember the model off the top of my head), not an Enterprise.
Not what I meant - the contract is up to date. I booted to the Solaris 11 disk for sparc (Stop-A, boot cdrom), and the OS threw an unsupported proc error. Client decided it wasn't worth looking into - since everything else they have is on Solaris 10, and decided to stay on S10 rather then spend the time on contacting support, etc.
"Home users" clearly aren't the "us" that I was referencing. Otherwise, I wouldn't have mentioned IRIX. I'm much less concerned with "home users" then I am with the server room. When I have to tell my clients to stay away from Linux because it's too unstable, too focused on the "home users" it will be a sad day. But it's coming very quickly.// And some of those clients really wouldn't mind moving to Solaris either. Especially since stuff doesn't just randomly change for the sake of change.
Interesting, I might have to contact Oracle support on that one (when I tried to install Solaris 11 on a client's server, I got a "your system isn't supported" error.
Which for many of us, won't be. As per my example, if I want to have a server running headless and connect via XDMCP, Wayland doesn't support this. Also, plenty of us use more then Linux, and Wayland is only being developed for Linux. No Solaris or BSD support (much less older UNIX systems, say IRIX).
No, SPARCs have been coming out on a regular basis. My biggest issue was Oracle dropping support for so many recent processors with Solaris 11 (UltraSparc IV and older removed, no more IA-32 either). A Sun Enterprise M3000, which was being sold in late 2010, doesn't run Solaris 11.
I do however still enjoy playing with new SPARC systems when my client buys one.
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Which is why you still have gear options on an automatic (or why it says P-R-N-O-D-2-1 on my shifter. Newer ones don't say O anymore), for when you need to decide something instead of the car (also, means I can still downshift and floor it).
My High School has a team. Team 007 forever! (Why yes, I was partly involved with the robotics team, and had a lot of friends on it. How did you guess?)
Yeah, so much for the "Common" Desktop.
MATE would be more analogous to TDE, not RazorQT.
More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/i8xxUnsupported
It's listed as "supported" but unless something has changed recently the X.org driver is broken on i8xx series. Features that used to be supported (like say, hardware rendering) were broken when I last checked (last tried about a year ago). Gave the same performance as the vesa driver.
KDE 1.x ran fine on my Pentium I 120MHz with 48MB RAM, 1MB Cirrus Logic graphics and a 1GB HDD.
Modern Linux doesn't run right on hardware that old (and I don't just mean GNOME/KDE). Just try and run Fedora (or Ubuntu, etc) on a Pentium III with Intel i845 graphics. Driver support is no longer existent. You could try on 12yo hardware with real graphics, but I still don't think it'll work right (I hate KMS drivers).
How about SGI's 4DWM or CDE?
And what about unusual ones?
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Mozilla/4.7C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP30) (actually, I don't have access to my Octane to really grab it ATM).
Or, when in a hurry, use grep and awk to display what they need quickly.
It's dependent on the version of the protocol supported by the client as well. Just like MS RDP on Mac does not support remote gateways. RDC 2.0 doesn't support RemoteApp - it supports opening a desktop session with the shell changed to whatever program you want, but it does not support RemoteApp.
GNOME 3 still has issues. Don't have a supported graphics card? Want to get a useful error message other then "Something crashed, now you must log out?" Want to have a system tray? Nope, not in GNOME 3.
You realize you only mentioned VNC and services that use VNC as things you've tried, right? And VNC is very inefficient compared to just about anything (X over network, ssh -CX, RDP, NX, etc)
Best guess: X is a display protocol, not audio.
- Later RDP versions allow you to forward just specific applications, in addition to the entire workspace. I don't know if FreeRDP supports this feature yet, but it is built into the protocol.
Outside of Windows, this really doesn't exist. I think there is a paid-for program on Mac OS (not the MS RDP) that does this.
No. The issue is the license(CDDL) and GPL don't play together in a way that lets you ship CDDL software with GPL software (but the other way around is fine).
I suppose that FAT12, FAT16, FAT32, exFAT, ext2, ext3, ext4, reiserfs and reiserfs4 all confuse you already?
Actually, I think it's just a version on the driver.
Yes they can. My client that's using them, however, wants Solaris on them because their client is using Solaris (Oracle DB on Solaris 10). The Solaris 11 idea was to have them be used to using it (it was an extra system) to be familiar and ready to support it when their client moves to it.
Also a note, in college we took some SPARC servers in college and installed Red Hat on them. Ran much better with RH then Solaris (I think they had S9 on them before).
Now that I'm thinking about it, I think it was a different server that I tried that on, a Sun Fire (don't remember the model off the top of my head), not an Enterprise.
Not what I meant - the contract is up to date. I booted to the Solaris 11 disk for sparc (Stop-A, boot cdrom), and the OS threw an unsupported proc error. Client decided it wasn't worth looking into - since everything else they have is on Solaris 10, and decided to stay on S10 rather then spend the time on contacting support, etc.
"Home users" clearly aren't the "us" that I was referencing. Otherwise, I wouldn't have mentioned IRIX. I'm much less concerned with "home users" then I am with the server room. When I have to tell my clients to stay away from Linux because it's too unstable, too focused on the "home users" it will be a sad day. But it's coming very quickly. // And some of those clients really wouldn't mind moving to Solaris either. Especially since stuff doesn't just randomly change for the sake of change.
Interesting, I might have to contact Oracle support on that one (when I tried to install Solaris 11 on a client's server, I got a "your system isn't supported" error.
X Server, yes. Not X Client. So for the system to listen for XDMCP requests, you'd still need to have X running all the time.
Which for many of us, won't be. As per my example, if I want to have a server running headless and connect via XDMCP, Wayland doesn't support this. Also, plenty of us use more then Linux, and Wayland is only being developed for Linux. No Solaris or BSD support (much less older UNIX systems, say IRIX).
No, SPARCs have been coming out on a regular basis. My biggest issue was Oracle dropping support for so many recent processors with Solaris 11 (UltraSparc IV and older removed, no more IA-32 either). A Sun Enterprise M3000, which was being sold in late 2010, doesn't run Solaris 11.
I do however still enjoy playing with new SPARC systems when my client buys one.