Dont knock what you dont understand. Every time a person like you makes an ill educated anti-Euro statement, it just shows everyone how little you know, and how bigoted you are.
Ooh the smart woman thinks I am jealous of her! I have no idea how smart you are, and you may well be smarter than me (although as a member of the general population is is statistically unlikely - but entirely possible), and you know what, I dont care, at all. So go ahead and scratch me off your "I'm smarter smarter than" list, you pathetic loser.
It has been my experience that the people who go around telling others how smart they are, invariably have some social problems.
I just read a bunch of your posts, this is the only one that doesnt indicate that you are a complete moron. Congratulations - the medication must be working.
I think we can all agree that the root cause of the Beagle 2's failure can be found in the society and culture from which it originates
No, we can not all agree on this. Dont presume that you can speak for everyone, especially on topics where you (probably) are not qualified to make such statements.
Now think for a moment about scientist in the US, those beleagured, scrappy NASA workers who have to struggle for grant money... Yet it was their Mars effort that succeeded
While I respect your right to have your opinion, I think maybe you are talking out of your ass when you try to pretend that you know why NASA succedded and the Brits failed.
In 2000, Reuters said this:
Still reeling from the spectacular failures of two Mars missions last year, NASA said Thursday it had learned from its mistakes and would not repeat them in an ambitious new mission for 2003...
an 18-member committee headed by former NASA official Thomas Young criticized NASA's "faster, cheaper, better" philosophy, saying it had caused programs to be underfunded by about 30 percent and encouraged staffers to cut corners in vital areas.
Edward Weiler, associate administrator in NASA's Office of Space Science, said staffers had been afraid to report problems because they knew of budget and staffing restraints and did not want to add to the burden
If you want to criticize a failure, that is fine (although I dont think you are qualified to), analysis of errors can help to ensure they dont happen again. But your blind 'america is best - britain sucks' criticism is neither helpful nor true.
Does your Darwin snipe to mean that you do not believe in the theory of evolution by natural selection? I wouldnt be surprised if you don't.
It's actually a fundamental disagreement with basic christian ethics as well.
So that story about the woman who gave her last penny to help someone, where jesus said she had given more than anyone mustnt have anything to do with christian ethics right?
They still dont give enough money in overseas aid.
I dont know much about economics, but I believe what you say because I have read articles by economists that make the same points as you. Part of me wants to see the US economy fall apart (I would view it as a payback to America for screwing up the world with their foreign and economic policies, and for electing a monkey).
Um, I hate to tell you but the US gives a far lower proportion of its wealth than some other countries.
How is it bullshit that the wealthiest country in the world should help poor countries when a disaster strikes?
I think you have a very simple and clear view of how you think these issues should be handled. I can see why you might come to that view, and why you might find it attractive.
I suppose it is difficult for anyone to be truly objective about these matters, because a persons education/family/religion/society often biases them towards one way of thinking or another.
I must say that I find most of your opinions to be completely contrary to my own, and would absolutely hate to live in a society where the majority - or near majority, whatever - of people shared your values. I guess we are lucky that we each live where we do:-)
I cant see any point in my continuing to argue these issues with you, you have your opinion and I have mine (of course i suspect that I am right:-)
Im sorry if I was rude to you in previous posts. I have never discussed these issues with someone who has the same values/ideas as you, and I may have (did) go a bit over the top in trying to illustrate how vehemently I disagree with you.
I dont think any nation should be beholden to the definitions put fourth by any other... or any number of nations
What you just said implies that you think Iraq (or Iran, N. Korea or anyone!) has the right to behave as they see fit. Thats a goood idea.
this nation bashing by the euro's is over the top though
I'm sorry if it upsets you (and it clearly does). But a lot of people in Europe really despise the current US administration, and have a right to voice their concern.
Its not much but the best I can do so quickly is: Results 1 - 10 of about 2,030,000 for bush war criminal. (0.54 seconds), and Results 1 - 10 of about 644,000 for saddam hussein war criminal
So Saddam had basically the entire world against him, all his neighbours, the Sanctions, all the UN resolutions etc etc. yet you say that:
There is more call for Bush and the US to be persecuted from the 'international community' than there was for Saddam
And your back up is the number of hits in a google search? This does not lend any legitamacy to your outrageous claim. Please acknowledge that Saddam was more persecuted by the international community, please.
No I never said I did not disagree with 'war' in Iraq
Sorry, my mistake.
I did not see NATO nations being called despotic imperialist for going into Kosovo so why is Iraq any different.
Did they not have UN support for that? Broad international support?
Btw, I dont particularly like the UN, I think it's absolutly apalling that the UN farts around and sends in people to study whether genocide is actually occurring, then only sends in troops after the mass murders have been committed. Some of the stories I read about UN peacekeeping missions in the former Yugoslavia are just awful. Peacekeeping soldiers who had to keep their hands behind their back and watch as Serbs rounded up muslim men for slaughter, because the UN wouldn't allow them to stop it. But the UN is what the world has, and the onus is on all countries to try to improve it.
Textbook response, clearly showing that you have no respect for any nation other than your own.
All this recent hoopla is nothing but US bashing
if anyone looks objectivly at their own history they will put down the stones and enjoy the view their glass house gives them
I accept that in general it is correct to say that every country/group of people has/have, at some stage committed horrid atrocities. That's not to say that it's ok to still commit atrocities. You are saying that because all nations have done bad things in the past, we have no right to criticize the US when it does bad things?
That is like saying that because the US saved France (and the world) in WWII, that France (and the world) have no right to complain about US actions today. I utterly reject that notion.
There is more call for Bush and the US to be persecuted from the 'international community' than there was for Saddam
I am assuming you can back this statement up?
International law say Isreal cand build a fence to keep suicide bombers out... A stinking Fence...
The Israel/Palestine issue, like the troubles in Northern Ireland is extremely complex, it is easy (and entirely justifiable) to make a case for either side. Both sides regularly break their own laws, and international laws.
Youre referring to?
I am referring to US support for the Kuwaiti and Saudi regimes, I am referring to US support for the military coup in Venezuela (Helping to put self admitted dictators back into power)
And the people who did it are being punished
Do you honestly believe that the soldiers who committed these atrocities are the masterminds behind the routine practice of torture and degredation? Do you believe that the US is somehow not responsible for the actions of it's soldiers?
Please show me a nation who did not do that in a war
You previously stated that you do not agree with the war in Iraq. So... you dont agree with it but you defend the US for having killed 15000 civillians by writing it all off:
well, war is hell
Is that not (a)extremely coarse and (b) a contradiction?
It does, thank you. I'm sorry for calling you ignorant.
Do you have something to back up...
...people continue to donate more to charities on a per capita basis than those in any other country (from gov.ie)
I can't find a study, a bunch of other quotes though, but no study as yet.
You are utterly entrenched, why did you ignore all the other horrid things your country does? Breaks international laws and agreements, tacitly approves apalling human rights violations, tortures (mostly innocent) prisoners, and slaughters innocent civillians.
Because we have this nifty little thing called freedom, in which I should be able to decide how to do things with my assets as I see fit
Ah yes, freedom. You are free in your country to own a handgun (and now assault rifles too is it?) and are trusted to use it properly, yet its a big deal if someone under the age of 21 drink a beer. So young people are responsible enough to own a weapon that is designed to kill, but not responsible enough to touch *alcohol*. How is that free? Are you free from the threat of violence, the fear of assault, or of murder?
Of course I feel that way, the UN is a joke they can take their 'international courts' and suggestions and jump into the east river
Wow, nice attitude. The UN is far from perfect, but then so is your country, who are you to say that the UN is 'not good enough for us'. Im not surprised by your response though, you have an attitude typical among your well travelled countrymen, who think that the USA deserves to be treated differently to all the other loser countries.
Im trying to keep this civil, if you can not do the same we have nothing further to say to each other.
You called me a barbarian, and insinuated that I am ignorant. Then when I call your 'country' barbaric I am not being civil? That wasn't meant as an insult, but as a fact. There are 12000 gun deaths in your 'country' every year, 4 times more each year than have died in the entire history of the troubles in Northern Ireland.
I will ask if your numbers include *private* giving. My small church took it upon themselves to build schools in Africa, that money does not show up as 'Us Aid'
I'm glad that you donate to charitable causes. I believe the people of my country give a larger proportion of their wealth to charities than the people of any other nation. You are correct to assume that your money does not show up as 'US Aid', nor does ours.
Your country constantly breaks international laws and agreements, tacitly approves apalling human rights violations, tortures (mostly innocent) prisoners, and slaughters innocent civillians. These are barbaric acts.
Im trying to keep this civil too, please dont accuse me of being a barbarian, or of being stupid.
I don't think it is the case that I don't understand what you said. I just don't see why you should have a problem with the government raising taxes and changing laws, in order to give poor people a better quality of life (and a better chance at escaping the poverty trap).
I think it reflects badly on you to try to demean my intellect, given that:
(a) It's not a christian thing to do
(b) You dont know me. I may well be smarter than you are.
Given your repeated misuse of the english language:
If I help the poor I am going what I should do
... and seeming inability to use punctuation, I suggest you stop insinuating that I am a barbarian of low intellect.
I assume you also think it is ok for your country not to give the UN recommended levels of foreign aid? The paltry level of aid your country gives is just apalling. Included in your 'foreign aid' is $3 billion per year to israel (who pump a lot of money into US arms companies). That is barbaric.
The Bible tells *ME* to care for people not the Government
So if *YOU* help poor people *YOU* are doing what *God* tells you, but if the government does then they are pinko commie fags, right?
You contradict yourself though, if you really believe what you say then maybe *YOU* should decide whether you have an abortion or not, not the government. I don't expect you to see the lack of consistency though, your fundamentalist religious leader / conservative radio host has probably brainwashed you into thinking that your ideas are consistent.
Off topic I know, but if I am a barbarian (as you pointed out in a previous post) - at least I have a good command of the English language.
I can spell, and form grammatically corrrect sentences, can you?
..its dead wrong to force someone to care for someone else
Right, so it is dead wrong for the government to take care of poor people - even though it says in the Bible that you should, but it's dead right for the government to ban abortions...
So I guess because I have different beliefs than you I am barbarian
Actually you kindly pointed out that I was 'acting like a barbarian'. I have never actually conversed with someone with your beliefs before. I must admit that I find them distasteful, but I dont think there is any point in insulting you over them (and I would expect the same courtesy in return).
I did say that your country is barbaric, and in my opinion it is more barbaric than any other country in the developed world.
But you can kill unborn babies so long as you believe evolution?
I didnt say or imply that, I was just curious to know what you thought about those two issues. I think it would be interesting to see statistical data reflecting the amount of people who have your beliefs (regarding the bible and evolution) that also believe that abortion is murder, and vice-versa for the people who do not share your beliefs.
You didnt want to answer my question about the church v science issue? No matter.
Just out of curiosity (and I'm not trying to score points off you on this) If you believe in a rigid interpretation of the Adam and Eve story, dou you also believe that the serpent could talk? Also do you think it was a fitting punishment for the serpent to be made to crawl on its belly?
Conception is not gradual, one minute you have a sperm and an egg the next you have Human life
Incorrect mon ami, it should read:
Conception is not gradual, one minute you have a sperm and an egg the next you have zygote. The issue of when life begins may be conception for you, but that is only your opinion.
Because geocentric theory predated any of the scientist you mentiond, it stated about 1500 years before it was debunked
Wow u must have read up on the facts I used to debunk your statement.
It took mankind more that 1500 years to overcome the church...
It took 1500 years for mankind to make the scientific break from mankind's geocentric model. How long did it take for the scientific community to actually 'overcome' the church? Can you not do subtraction? Dont try to lie or shift the goals on this one.
Perhaps if you were not so calous twords abortion I might not have to point out youre acting like a barbarian
Interesting that someone from a country which is more barbaric than any other country in the civilised world has the gall to call me barbaric.
Just a few fun questions for you, do you believe in darwinian evolution as an explanation for how mankind came to be? And do you believe that Adam and Eve actually existed? Why dont you give me your opinions on these matters.
and when exactly is that?... Tell me when you think it begins and why..
I haven't decided yet, somewhere in the latter half of the pregnancy, maybe around a time when there would be a chance that the baby could live on its own if it was born (and obviously fed and taken care of)
It took mankind more that 1500 years to overcome the church and take man kind out of the center of the univers, now we are going to put him right back in the name of secular humanism
Actually those ideas came from pagan Greek philosophers. And I hate to tell you that the time period between Copernicus (1473-1543) proposing an alternative to the Ptolemaic model and Newton (1643-1727) convincing the Church that we were not at the center of the universe is FAR less than 1500 years.
Perhaps you would like to explain where this 1500 year number came from? Or you could just ignore it and move on to something else, perhaps a rant against Darwin's theories or a nice explanation of how the story of Adam and Eve is actually true.
This coming from the man who *still* has not posted a link showing that those who voted for Bush are less intelligent than those who vated for kerry
I'm sorry for not being more clear about it, that was wild conjecture on my part, based around the utterly moronic reasont that Bush voters gave for their presidential choice.
Btw nice ignoring of my question about why you dont behave like a christian should.
You are so self important, the difference between your 'moral crusade' and the slavery issue is not 'when life begins'. I think everyone knew that the slaves were alive.
So you got over your hurt feeling long enough to throw some mud of your own eh
The difference between us is that I'm not a christian (or even a pretend christian) like you are, thus I am not bound by the teachings of Christianity like you are/should be.
You use words like 'pro-death' and 'pro-life' as if you are a force for good and people who have different beliefs to yours are a force of evil. This clearly illustrates your lack of objectivity and inflated sense of self-importance.
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Dont knock what you dont understand. Every time a person like you makes an ill educated anti-Euro statement, it just shows everyone how little you know, and how bigoted you are.
Ooh the smart woman thinks I am jealous of her! I have no idea how smart you are, and you may well be smarter than me (although as a member of the general population is is statistically unlikely - but entirely possible), and you know what, I dont care, at all. So go ahead and scratch me off your "I'm smarter smarter than" list, you pathetic loser.
It has been my experience that the people who go around telling others how smart they are, invariably have some social problems.
eat me, i dont have to provide you with anything you vacuous idiot
I just read a bunch of your posts, this is the only one that doesnt indicate that you are a complete moron. Congratulations - the medication must be working.
I like the way all you 'yay america' pussies are too scared to sign in when you post your xenophobic comments.
No, we can not all agree on this. Dont presume that you can speak for everyone, especially on topics where you (probably) are not qualified to make such statements.
While I respect your right to have your opinion, I think maybe you are talking out of your ass when you try to pretend that you know why NASA succedded and the Brits failed.
In 2000, Reuters said this:
If you want to criticize a failure, that is fine (although I dont think you are qualified to), analysis of errors can help to ensure they dont happen again. But your blind 'america is best - britain sucks' criticism is neither helpful nor true.
Does your Darwin snipe to mean that you do not believe in the theory of evolution by natural selection? I wouldnt be surprised if you don't.
They still dont give enough money in overseas aid.
I dont know much about economics, but I believe what you say because I have read articles by economists that make the same points as you. Part of me wants to see the US economy fall apart (I would view it as a payback to America for screwing up the world with their foreign and economic policies, and for electing a monkey).
Um, I hate to tell you but the US gives a far lower proportion of its wealth than some other countries. How is it bullshit that the wealthiest country in the world should help poor countries when a disaster strikes?
Thanks for that,
Perhaps we should watch 'fair and balanced' news channels instead?
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I think you have a very simple and clear view of how you think these issues should be handled. I can see why you might come to that view, and why you might find it attractive.
:-)
:-)
I suppose it is difficult for anyone to be truly objective about these matters, because a persons education/family/religion/society often biases them towards one way of thinking or another.
I must say that I find most of your opinions to be completely contrary to my own, and would absolutely hate to live in a society where the majority - or near majority, whatever - of people shared your values. I guess we are lucky that we each live where we do
I cant see any point in my continuing to argue these issues with you, you have your opinion and I have mine (of course i suspect that I am right
Im sorry if I was rude to you in previous posts. I have never discussed these issues with someone who has the same values/ideas as you, and I may have (did) go a bit over the top in trying to illustrate how vehemently I disagree with you.
Btw, I dont particularly like the UN, I think it's absolutly apalling that the UN farts around and sends in people to study whether genocide is actually occurring, then only sends in troops after the mass murders have been committed. Some of the stories I read about UN peacekeeping missions in the former Yugoslavia are just awful. Peacekeeping soldiers who had to keep their hands behind their back and watch as Serbs rounded up muslim men for slaughter, because the UN wouldn't allow them to stop it. But the UN is what the world has, and the onus is on all countries to try to improve it.
I accept that in general it is correct to say that every country/group of people has/have, at some stage committed horrid atrocities. That's not to say that it's ok to still commit atrocities. You are saying that because all nations have done bad things in the past, we have no right to criticize the US when it does bad things?
That is like saying that because the US saved France (and the world) in WWII, that France (and the world) have no right to complain about US actions today. I utterly reject that notion. I am assuming you can back this statement up? The Israel/Palestine issue, like the troubles in Northern Ireland is extremely complex, it is easy (and entirely justifiable) to make a case for either side. Both sides regularly break their own laws, and international laws. I am referring to US support for the Kuwaiti and Saudi regimes, I am referring to US support for the military coup in Venezuela (Helping to put self admitted dictators back into power) Do you honestly believe that the soldiers who committed these atrocities are the masterminds behind the routine practice of torture and degredation? Do you believe that the US is somehow not responsible for the actions of it's soldiers? You previously stated that you do not agree with the war in Iraq. So... you dont agree with it but you defend the US for having killed 15000 civillians by writing it all off: Is that not
(a)extremely coarse
and
(b) a contradiction?
How can you justify those deaths?
I can't find a study, a bunch of other quotes though, but no study as yet.
You are utterly entrenched, why did you ignore all the other horrid things your country does? Breaks international laws and agreements, tacitly approves apalling human rights violations, tortures (mostly innocent) prisoners, and slaughters innocent civillians.
Your country constantly breaks international laws and agreements, tacitly approves apalling human rights violations, tortures (mostly innocent) prisoners, and slaughters innocent civillians. These are barbaric acts.
Im trying to keep this civil too, please dont accuse me of being a barbarian, or of being stupid.
I think it reflects badly on you to try to demean my intellect, given that:
(a) It's not a christian thing to do
(b) You dont know me. I may well be smarter than you are.
Given your repeated misuse of the english language:
I assume you also think it is ok for your country not to give the UN recommended levels of foreign aid? The paltry level of aid your country gives is just apalling. Included in your 'foreign aid' is $3 billion per year to israel (who pump a lot of money into US arms companies). That is barbaric.
So if *YOU* help poor people *YOU* are doing what *God* tells you, but if the government does then they are pinko commie fags, right?
You contradict yourself though, if you really believe what you say then maybe *YOU* should decide whether you have an abortion or not, not the government. I don't expect you to see the lack of consistency though, your fundamentalist religious leader / conservative radio host has probably brainwashed you into thinking that your ideas are consistent.
Off topic I know, but if I am a barbarian (as you pointed out in a previous post) - at least I have a good command of the English language.
I can spell, and form grammatically corrrect sentences, can you?
You are typically ignorant. Go mate with your sister, just like adam and eves (your ultimate grandparents) kids must have.
I did say that your country is barbaric, and in my opinion it is more barbaric than any other country in the developed world. I didnt say or imply that, I was just curious to know what you thought about those two issues. I think it would be interesting to see statistical data reflecting the amount of people who have your beliefs (regarding the bible and evolution) that also believe that abortion is murder, and vice-versa for the people who do not share your beliefs.
You didnt want to answer my question about the church v science issue? No matter.
Just out of curiosity (and I'm not trying to score points off you on this) If you believe in a rigid interpretation of the Adam and Eve story, dou you also believe that the serpent could talk? Also do you think it was a fitting punishment for the serpent to be made to crawl on its belly?
Just a few fun questions for you, do you believe in darwinian evolution as an explanation for how mankind came to be? And do you believe that Adam and Eve actually existed? Why dont you give me your opinions on these matters.
Perhaps you would like to explain where this 1500 year number came from? Or you could just ignore it and move on to something else, perhaps a rant against Darwin's theories or a nice explanation of how the story of Adam and Eve is actually true. I'm sorry for not being more clear about it, that was wild conjecture on my part, based around the utterly moronic reasont that Bush voters gave for their presidential choice.
Btw nice ignoring of my question about why you dont behave like a christian should.
Btw nice ignoring of my question about why you dont behave like a christian.
You use words like 'pro-death' and 'pro-life' as if you are a force for good and people who have different beliefs to yours are a force of evil. This clearly illustrates your lack of objectivity and inflated sense of self-importance.