So I see you know as much about Jesus as you do the US political landscape
More cheap insults, this makes you seem more intelligent than me and also a better person. Please to clarify your statement, how have I shown that I do not know 'about Jesus'. Your attempt to discredit me by showing how Jesus got angry is pathetic, there is nothing in the Bible that you can use to discredit the point that I made.
Lets see Would I consider a law letting people kill a 2 year old as bad as slavery? yes I do
Well... thats not what I was talking about. I was talking about ABORTION, I know thats a big word but Im sure you can go find out what it is. So you think that the State allowing people to do what they want with their own bodies (neither condemning nor condoning abortions) is as bad as a state that sells, tortures and rapes people based on their skin colour.
How civilised.
Oh so now you are starting to insult me? How Christian of you. I dont think jesus would insult someone just for having a different opinion to him.
If you wish to continue to delude yourself that there are not 'educated' and 'redneck' states then be my guest. You ARE incorrect. The majority of more educated and wealthy states just 'happened' to vote for Kerry, while the fetid, backwater, racist, bible-bashing states 'happened' to vote for Bush.
Yes I consider Killing babies to be *at least* as bad as slavery, and no I dont have a high opinion of myself
I really dont understand you and your 'Christian morals'. You think that giving parents the right to choose whether to continue with a pregnancy or not is as great an injustice as stealing humans from their homeland, then forcing them to work for nothing while murdering, raping and torturing them.
How can you say that. I think its an absolute disgrace.
Don't be so ignorant, the educated states vote blue and the peasant states vote red. You can come up with your little statistics but you cannot lie about facts, look at the map.
From those lefties in the Washington Times:
The segment of the country that pays for the federal government is now being governed by the people who don't pay for the federal government
Ninety percent of the red states are welfare-client states of the federal government
Why then do People in Norway have such wealth and good quality of life with their minimum wage rules and regulations? And there are so many poor people in the US who are getting shafted
Well (as you are probably not aware), it can be frustrating for a reasonable individual to have to deal with ignorant people who aren't interested in reason.
Things really get messed up if someone outside sets the value of the wage without regard to the value of the work
Wow, How right you are. Did you learn that in college cause it sounds really plausible... thats why American citizens have such GOOD quality of life and loser countries like Norway that actually take care of their less advantaged people are so poor and miserable.
Norway (one of Europe's richest economies) has since 2001 ranked first in the UN Human Development Index.
Of course you are right though, I mean if you guys had a higher minimum wage your entire economy would fall apart...
BTW where are the survey results showing Republicans and Conservatives are less informed than Liberals and Democrats?
Have u seen a map of the states, showing which states vote Democrat/Republican? All the ill educated country folk vote Republican, and all the big University (read EDUCATED) states vote blue! Dont kid me, the US has APPALLING general education/literacy levels, these yokels WAY prefer a tough talkin' hootin tootin village idiot from Texas to a Boston man with a French wife.
You are becoming ridiculous. You refuse to admint that Bush tricked congress, will you not admit that he tricked them? Im going to say that again so that when youu ignore it AGAIN it will look bad. DO YOU NOT ADMIT THAT BUSH TRICKED CONGRESS INTO AUTHORIZING HIM TO USE FORCE?
What makes you think I voted for Bush or watch Fox?
I made the comment about Fox because it is statistically likely that you watch it. Your tirade about 'the left' and 'liberals' sounds just like excrement that gushes forth every time Bill O'Reilly opens his mouth. I never stated that you voted for Bush, you should read my post again.
you peg them zealots and ignorent single issue voters
I think single issue voters, in particular anti-abortionists are extremely easy to dupe, and I have been proven right. Dont be so naiive. You dont know my opinion on abortion at all (you might think you do but you do NOT).
Again I notice you refuse to acknowledge my comments about France. Why is this?
I'm not expecting you to answer (or be able to satisfactorily answer) most of my points, again.
Than answer the question, who has the authority to declare war in the United states?
Congress has the authority. Did you think me ignorant? It may surprise you to know that we get better news coverage of US politics than you do. You completely ignored my point, which was that Bush lied to America and the world and duped his own congress into voting for (what they thought was a justified) war . Do you deny this? Do you still think Bush and Kerry were equally responsibile even though Bush et al knew that there was no proof of WMD yet told everyone that they had proof? An answer would be appropriate.
There is a fundamental difference between the abortion and death penalty issues. The state does not perform abortions, but it does (at least some do) perform executions. Whether a person CHOOSES to have an abortion or not is THEIR OWN CHOICE. If you dont believe in abortion, fine, dont get one! But dont expect everyone else to believe that life begins when you believe it does.
You are consistently ignoring my points and concentrating on your own little subset, perhaps because Fox (or your religious leader) has only given you a certain number of prepackaged answers?
Your continued misuse of the word 'liberal' amuses me. Your continued abuse of the French does not. I dont abuse your Church because I find its ideas to be distasteful and primitive, why do you abuse the French?
would you vote for him?
If if if, if only my auntie had boll**ks she'd be my uncle:-) I dont LIKE Kerry cause he's not a liberal. America is screwed, neither Kerry nor Bush would give power back to the people (and stop the corporations from ruling the US). But Kerry MIGHT have made the best of a bad situation, Bush WILL make it worse.
I do think that a nation violating the terms of a cease fire and plotting to kill an ex-president.
I'm sorry, that is not a gramatically correct sentence, I have no idea what you meant by it.
Really, you think you understand the US Government more than me
Well... yes. I also think I'm a little more worldly. In case you hadn't noticed the Bush administration tricked America (and most of the rest of the world) into believing that Saddam had WMD. They said that he DEFINITELY had these weapons and was ready to use them. Of course they lied, they knew he didn't have WMD. So I think maybe Kerry voted for the war because he was lied to by the administration. Can you explain that?
Now Bush did the war all wrong and so did Kerry (voted for the war)
Not true. It is fact that from very after 9/11 the Bush administration pushed the intelligence community specifically to find links between Al'Quaeda (Saudi) and Saddam. When they couldnt find any, they lied to the people (Kerry included) - who believed them. It was from THAT time that Kerry 'did' the war.
if you thought that life started at conception could you understand why people make it such an issue
Sorry, I didn't mean to dodge the question: Yes, I can understand that it is a contentious issue.
I also understand that these 'conservative christians' are total hypocrites. The kind of faux-religious politics that you have in the US absolutely disgusts me. Politicians exploit the Bible when it suits them and ignore it when it doesn't.
What about the death penalty? As far as I can recall Jesus wasn't really a fan ("Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"). I could go on and on...
GWB used abortion as an issue because most anti-abortionists are such zealots that they vote based on that single issue. I bet he is laughing all the way to the white house at how easy these 'christians' are to dupe.
BTW I dont think Jesus would be up for calling the french people monkeys like you do.
Oh right,
Sorry I didnt realize that killing INNOCENT CIVILLIANS from another country in an ILLEGAL war was ok, are you saying this is ok? I am assuming you think it is (no doubt in 'revenge' for 9/11 - which was funded, organised and executed primarily by Saudis)
Both Kerry and Bush are equally responsable for the idiotic way in which Iraq went down
Really? I thought it was Bush, Wolfowitz et al? With this statement you are just highlighting your lack of understanding of what I assume is your OWN country (thankfully it is not mine)
..great seing so many anrgy Liberals..
Ah, misuse of the word liberal, what is a liberal? Are the Democrats liberal? I dont think so:)
"By no means allow anyone who voted for Bush attempt to explain it! No matter how irrational or idiotic their reasons are, you run the risk of understanding their motives, which could cause irreparable harm to your ideology! AVOID AVOID AVOID!"
I disagree, I feel better when I hear why 51% of voting Americans chose Bush. It helps me to shed my sympathy for the people of America when I can hear their ignorance.
Standard American reasons for voting for Bush:
Abortion
(the people would rather have a man who kills over 15000 Iraqi civilians than allow women the right to choose)
Tax
(the common man - which the majority of voters are - supports a man who introduces tax cuts for the rich and is in favour of outsourcing Amreican jobs)
Defense
('Bush makes me feel safe' - Ah yes, a leader who starts illegal wars and breaks the Geneva convention must make you feel real safe)
Slashdot Mirror
Well... thats not what I was talking about. I was talking about ABORTION, I know thats a big word but Im sure you can go find out what it is. So you think that the State allowing people to do what they want with their own bodies (neither condemning nor condoning abortions) is as bad as a state that sells, tortures and rapes people based on their skin colour.
How civilised.
If you wish to continue to delude yourself that there are not 'educated' and 'redneck' states then be my guest. You ARE incorrect. The majority of more educated and wealthy states just 'happened' to vote for Kerry, while the fetid, backwater, racist, bible-bashing states 'happened' to vote for Bush.
I really dont understand you and your 'Christian morals'. You think that giving parents the right to choose whether to continue with a pregnancy or not is as great an injustice as stealing humans from their homeland, then forcing them to work for nothing while murdering, raping and torturing them.
How can you say that. I think its an absolute disgrace.
From those lefties in the Washington Times: [http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041109-12275
Wow you are comparing anti-abortionists to those who struggled against slavery, how noble a quest. You clearly have a very high opinion of yourself.
Your continued misuse of the english language merely confirms my suspicions of you.
Why then do People in Norway have such wealth and good quality of life with their minimum wage rules and regulations? And there are so many poor people in the US who are getting shafted
if XP recovers from an error so quckly and reliably that the user is never aware of a problem, the fix is good enough
yeah... so like if it recovered in 10 milliseconds that would be good enought for most people.
Well (as you are probably not aware), it can be frustrating for a reasonable individual to have to deal with ignorant people who aren't interested in reason.
Norway (one of Europe's richest economies) has since 2001 ranked first in the UN Human Development Index.
Of course you are right though, I mean if you guys had a higher minimum wage your entire economy would fall apart...
You were modded as insightful??
You are becoming ridiculous. You refuse to admint that Bush tricked congress, will you not admit that he tricked them? Im going to say that again so that when youu ignore it AGAIN it will look bad. DO YOU NOT ADMIT THAT BUSH TRICKED CONGRESS INTO AUTHORIZING HIM TO USE FORCE? I made the comment about Fox because it is statistically likely that you watch it. Your tirade about 'the left' and 'liberals' sounds just like excrement that gushes forth every time Bill O'Reilly opens his mouth. I never stated that you voted for Bush, you should read my post again. I think single issue voters, in particular anti-abortionists are extremely easy to dupe, and I have been proven right. Dont be so naiive. You dont know my opinion on abortion at all (you might think you do but you do NOT).
Again I notice you refuse to acknowledge my comments about France. Why is this?
I'm not expecting you to answer (or be able to satisfactorily answer) most of my points, again.
adieu
There is a fundamental difference between the abortion and death penalty issues. The state does not perform abortions, but it does (at least some do) perform executions. Whether a person CHOOSES to have an abortion or not is THEIR OWN CHOICE. If you dont believe in abortion, fine, dont get one! But dont expect everyone else to believe that life begins when you believe it does.
You are consistently ignoring my points and concentrating on your own little subset, perhaps because Fox (or your religious leader) has only given you a certain number of prepackaged answers?
Your continued misuse of the word 'liberal' amuses me. Your continued abuse of the French does not. I dont abuse your Church because I find its ideas to be distasteful and primitive, why do you abuse the French? If if if, if only my auntie had boll**ks she'd be my uncle
God Bless
I also understand that these 'conservative christians' are total hypocrites. The kind of faux-religious politics that you have in the US absolutely disgusts me. Politicians exploit the Bible when it suits them and ignore it when it doesn't.
What about the death penalty? As far as I can recall Jesus wasn't really a fan ("Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"). I could go on and on...
GWB used abortion as an issue because most anti-abortionists are such zealots that they vote based on that single issue. I bet he is laughing all the way to the white house at how easy these 'christians' are to dupe.
BTW I dont think Jesus would be up for calling the french people monkeys like you do.
God Bless
Sorry I didnt realize that killing INNOCENT CIVILLIANS from another country in an ILLEGAL war was ok, are you saying this is ok? I am assuming you think it is (no doubt in 'revenge' for 9/11 - which was funded, organised and executed primarily by Saudis)
Really? I thought it was Bush, Wolfowitz et al? With this statement you are just highlighting your lack of understanding of what I assume is your OWN country (thankfully it is not mine)
Ah, misuse of the word liberal, what is a liberal? Are the Democrats liberal? I dont think so
Take it easy,
C
I disagree, I feel better when I hear why 51% of voting Americans chose Bush. It helps me to shed my sympathy for the people of America when I can hear their ignorance.
Standard American reasons for voting for Bush:
- Abortion
- Tax
- Defense
Reap what you sow, enjoy the next 4 years(the people would rather have a man who kills over 15000 Iraqi civilians than allow women the right to choose)
(the common man - which the majority of voters are - supports a man who introduces tax cuts for the rich and is in favour of outsourcing Amreican jobs)
('Bush makes me feel safe' - Ah yes, a leader who starts illegal wars and breaks the Geneva convention must make you feel real safe)