Or even just a self destructing message like those used in the Mission Impossible shows and movies. We can't have information that would be available if a warrant were issues to be gone now can we? I guess we next have to outlaw shredders and any type of fire as well.
That was basically what I thought. It seems really expensive and why not just wait to see it on disk or Amazon streaming. But if you had 5 or more people watching it together it would probably be cheaper to watch it at home. Add in the cost of snacks and that you could make a party out of it and get 8-10 people over depending on your room layout then it is damn cheap.
Of course most people don't have the same sound system an in a theater. Even a fairly good one just doesn't have the size and number of speakers as you find an a cinema setup. Screen size might be ok because you are closer, but there is something about looking at that huge screen in front of you also.
Try getting a weight operated cuckoo clock. You have to adjust the pendulum up or down on the wooden stick to get the time rate close but it is never correct. If I can get it so it stays within a minute each day I am happy with it. So at least once a week you have to move the minute hand. And twice a day you have to pull the three weights back up to the top. Now talk about a lot of effort to keep time.
LOL. A large portion of people don't have a chance against their attacker. It just is even harder when they can attack with range.
So just because you might not have a chance at self defense we should outlaw it completely to ensure that if you are to be targeted as a victim then you must become a victim? If everyone can't be saved then no one should be! Got it!
And no, it's not about the gun. It's indiscriminate mass murder.
Because that is just soo likely to happen we should use it as our basis on what we do each day. I need milk, but there is indiscriminate mass murder out there, I better not go. I could call Peapod, but they might be an indiscriminate mass murderer, so that rules that out.
you are culturally quite fucked up when someone can be peacefully sitting in a classroom and someone else comes in and starts killing en mass for no good reason.
Can't go get an education because some indiscriminate mass murder might show up.
By the way in my case and my example, if he had a gun and I had a gun, I'd still be the dead one
You might be the dead one. Or if the guy who tried to stab you actually stabbed you and killed you, you might be dead then. Or if you had a gut and he only had a knife you might still be the dead one. There are all kinds of what if's out there but that does not make it so you just say you can't defend yourself when someone is trying to kill you. It just might turn out that you shoot the guy that is stabbing you before he deals the deadly blow. It has happened before to plenty of people. They don't make the national news as often though because it isn't quite conforming to the narrative people want to see.
and unless some woman is walking down the street with the gun drawn and ready to kill any person who looks dodgy, she too will still get raped.
I'm sure that no woman even has defended herself with a gun, right? That is your argument, that is has never worked in the history of guns? Why would we have them if they never worked in all of history? I guess they work for the bad guys, so that is why we build so many of them, they want them.
You may not reduce the pre-meditated homicide rate by much, and indeed many countries haven't, but you eliminate an entire class of crimes of hot-headedness, mass murder, and give victims a fighting chance.
Unless it's the victims that might have defended themselves with a gun. A small woman does not have much of a fighting chance against a large rapist with a weapon. If she is armed it is much more evenly matched. And if she is armed and skilled the odds would be on her side. But we only care about gun victims, right? Who cares about the rape and murder victims?
Right, because Sandy Hook isn't as suspicious as the official 9/11 story! Is in typical that they don't allow ambulances and medical personnel where there are dying kids?
In spite of his god-like status among some of you, Mr. Snowden wouldn't know what capabilities the FBI has or doesn't have. He didn't work there, and he wouldn't have had a need to know, so he would never have been briefed on such. But, let's not let that get in the way of the Snowden gospel.
Right! Because the FBI is unable to do what any lab that solders circuit boards and programs flash chips has the capability to do! If the FBI can't figure it out because they are too incompetent, then they can hire any one of these hundreds of companies that are fully capable to do it for them.
I wasn't arguing for/against their case, only that the article is basically just click-bait. For whatever it's worth, I side with Apple on this. Not because I don't feel for the victims, but because their loss shouldn't affect our freedom.
I was simply pointing out that copying a flash chip is not so difficult that one would have to know the inner workings of the FBI to figure out that they either have that capability or can contract it out if needed. Perhaps there are reasons that it isn't as simple as that, but from the articles I have read in the last day it seems pretty straight forward and something they can accomplish. It may be a slower road to keep replacing the chip with another programmed one, but we are talking capability not how quickly it can be done.
In spite of his god-like status among some of you, Mr. Snowden wouldn't know what capabilities the FBI has or doesn't have. He didn't work there, and he wouldn't have had a need to know, so he would never have been briefed on such. But, let's not let that get in the way of the Snowden gospel.
Right! Because the FBI is unable to do what any lab that solders circuit boards and programs flash chips has the capability to do! If the FBI can't figure it out because they are too incompetent, then they can hire any one of these hundreds of companies that are fully capable to do it for them.
Yes! I recently discovered the awesomeness of cast iron pans from getting a cast iron camping dutch oven first. They are awesome and very non-stick. Even cheese on scrambled eggs refuses to stick and crisps into a nice golden brown. The only drawback is the weight. It can be hard to lift the pan for whatever reason. I guess keeping the seasoning good is a little effort also, but not bad. Small price to pay though.
No, moron, we did not. PTFE is one of the least reactive substances in existence and is not dangerous to anyone at all. One of the chemicals *formerly* used in the production of PTFE was found to be toxic. The resulting coating is not.
As long as it isn't heated on the stove that is. Makes it pretty useless for frying pans though.
Decrypting the phone is exactly what they want you to do. Once it is decrypted then the cyber virus is unleashed upon the world to bring about the fall of all technology. And I think there is a non-cyber virus in there also that will infect 99.9% of the population and kill them within minutes.
See, the San Bernadino DA is one of the terrorists. That's how he knows about the cyber-virus. That's why he wants it decrypted. He has already gotten the immunity for the civilization destroying biological weapon locked up in the phone and he wants it to be released so it can start the work they planned.
Not to mention that the article even said the only controller that will work is the XBOX controller. So who needs to configure a Steam controller if the controller won't even work with any games. I absolutely LOVE my Steam controller. I will very easily switch to gaming on Linux before I will give up that thing. Linux is already my non-gaming computer, so switching my gaming one over is an easy step.
It's no a question of punishment. It's a question of whether potential new victims have the right to be forewarned about people that have demonstrated harmful behavior in the past which they are likely to repeat in the future. The only part open to debate is how likely they are to reoffend, but as long as the probability is non-zero, I believe potential future victims have a right to know.
So we should have a burglary registry, and a murder registry too. And how about a registry for people who speed, we need to know if these dangerous people like in our neighborhood so we can remove them. We should have a registry for everything so we can tell how evil all the people are that live near us and compare it to how many registries we ourselves are on.
On a side note, the whole "fact" about the recidivism rate of sexual predators is a lie. They actually have a lower recidivism than most other crimes.
I just watch the movie "Experimenter" on Netflix the other day. I think there might be a subtle difference between that and this. In the Milgram experiment many people did question the experimenter about giving more shocks when the person in the room was yelling on stopped making noises. When told they had to continue they did so by assuming the responsibility of anything going wrong was on the experimenter and not on them. One person in the movie even said something to that effect but I don't know how real to life the movie actually was. In this robot guide experiment it isn't so much about passing responsibility for the outcome onto someone else, it is more about following someone or something you believe to know better than you. In a way I can see that they are passing on the responsibility for their own safety on to someone/something else, so maybe it compares in a way. But I bet nobody would continue pressing the shock button when the experimenter told them to if it was hooked up to their own arm.
And let's not forget the kid that got shot for having a candy bar in his hand. It isn't just pretend guts that get you shot by the above the law folks in blue!
My favorite is how the Superintendent (not sure on the actual title) of the Chicago police though that the officer that shot another person who was unarmed should not even be investigated. No need right! They are a cop, then the laws don't touch them, so why even charge them and investigate. Yeah, the higher-ups like that need to be taken out with a few sniper rifles until the replacements realize we don't want a bunch of thugs breaking the law running around out there pretending to be a lawful organization!
I see two points of interest in relation to the warrants the FBI has been granted.
For one, what ever happened to the whole "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects" that is in the 4th amendment. I guess with a warrant it still fits because it goes on with the text describing that warrants shall be necessary. But once they have this cracked version of the iOS, I don't believe they will wait for a warrant each time they want to open a phone. They certainly don't care about warrants with some of the other things they have done in the past. When you break the law enough times you can no longer call yourself a lawful organization and you need to be disbanded and each accessory and member of the criminal organization needs to be put in jail for life.
Number two, what if the warrant asked for impossible things. "You must crack this 8192 bit key" or "You must drill into the core of the Earth and retrieve samples for us". The court can rule whatever it wants, it doesn't make it reality though! I am sure this will become more relevant if/when Apple makes it so they can't crack their own phones anymore. I guess at that point it just becomes a "you must put a backdoor into the phone" request.
When you want to sell in China, you need to decide if you can follow their rules. If you can, then you can sell there. In the USA, where Apple was formed, you can follow the rules also, and Apple has helped the police and FBI with plenty of warrants and probably non-warranted assistance. But when you see the FBI making a request that is against the counties constitution you than make a choice. Do you ignore it and let your own country become as low as the worst places in the world, like China, or do you fight it and show the courts and the citizens what assholes and terrorists we have running the three letter agencies.
Don't forget, it's only this "ONE" phone. Except they could only keep that lie going for a day before they mentioned the other two phones that they would like cracked next, not to mention the hundreds that the New York police have lined up waiting next. When everything the FBI mouthpieces speak is shown to be a lie, then the courts should reject any argument they put forth as probable lie and throw them out of the court, if not directly into jail.
That's not what he's saying. He says that earths are statistically rare.
And how can he possibly know that given the tiny sample size of solar systems we have seen so far compared to the number in the universe? Suppose the chance of an Earth-like world forming is one in a billion. Given the number of solar systems we have studied so far it would be entirely possible that we had not seen one so far and yet with 400 billion stars there would be 400 "Earths" in the Milky-way alone let alone in the billions of galaxies in the universe.
Extrapolating to a universe of billions of galaxies each with hundreds of billions of stars using a sample size of what, a few thousand?, ten thousand?, is statistically daft...and having a model which agrees with your statistically insignificant sample does not make it any better.
It seems worse than that to me. He isn't just using a small sample size, he is using a sample that is skewed toward large planets that are close to their parent star. How many exo-Plutos have we found? How about exo-Mercurys? I don't think we have even found a planet as small as earth yet, but I could be wrong on that. When the reports of exo-Earths have come out they have been larger than our Earth, but they call them an exo-Earth because it might be in the Goldilocks zone.
Car analogies work so well, lets use one here. We will make a model that recreates all the cars on the road. But we will only input the semi-trucks and tour buses. I bet the model will say that sports cars are highly unlikely. I think the term is GIGO, Garbage In - Garbage Out.
Are you actually serious that you can't think of anything that can cause one planet to warm without causing other to follow suit? It seems like just 10 seconds of thought is all that is needed to think this through, so you must be trolling. Perhaps I am just falling for a subtle troll then.
Imagine this. . . Mars is approaching its perihelion (the point in its orbit where it is closest to the sun). Then Mars would get warmer, but if Earth was leaving its perihelion then it would be getting colder at the same time.
With quick thought you might also come up with volcano action, greenhouse effects, radioactive elements, bombardment by astroids, or world-wide wild fires. It isn't that complicated!
Personally, I don't trust the updates that come out for my Samsung phone. My last phone had the GPS functionality reduced by an official upgrade. There were other things after that upgrade that were removed causing me to loose some data. I now will not install the upgrade that has been in the notification bar for the last year. I am planning on putting Cyanogenmod on there because I do trust them to do upgrades that are good for the customer. But the official ones from Sprint and Samsung, no-way. If the Apple fans stopped trusting their beloved company perhaps they would be in a better position. Of course it isn't as easy to mod the Apple and still have access to the apps, so they are more stuck because of their initial decision.
On a side note, I trust Microsoft even less and never install their updates on my system. I have less fear from viruses and malware than I do from the update coming from Redmond. And with the amount of spying being built into their recent versions of their OS they have become a gaming system only for me. If I want to have a work computer to do things on, it will be Linux. If I want to play games on my big screen tv, I can use Windows. I guess I'm not too worried about them spying on which game I am playing. As the linux gaming environment improves perhaps that will change, but it still seems that the video cards work better and Windows.
If it wants to live on it's own then fine. If it insists on being a parasite feeding off of another person's body, then it does not deserve the rights of a full human being. Even a child does not have the full rights of an adult, unless they get emancipated.
the resulting cell ceases to be attributable to one of the two organisms that supplied the two cells that took part in the fertilization process. Therefore, neither of the two cell supplier organisms should be allowed to treat the resulting cell and any further cells, tissues, or people derived thereof, as if it were their own tissue).
So that would make it a parasite then. Can we expect to see a pro-parasite group fighting for the rights of the tape worm to live in your gut in peace next?
I came here to post the same thing... except that instead of sub-space sci-fi... I was going with mother nature... like your compass spinning when standing at magnetic north, I suspect they will stumble upon a method of extracting a minute amount of energy from the environment, and due to their lack of scientific understanding they will attribute it to perpetual motion rather than simple energy balance accounting. Then some scientist will come along and explain it in a few minutes and the "inventor" will be all sad because science crapped on their idea.
The bottom line is they spend years tinkering with an idea, that a scientist armed with a little math and chemistry can debunk in a matter of minutes... leaving the rest of the time to do real science.
I have heard of a examples where the scientist experts said something was impossible. And if something is not possible in physics then people who have the knowledge will not be so stupid to waste their time on it. Except sometimes the experts are wrong. The Frazier lens is an example of such a thing. Everybody who knew the physics about light and lenses said it was not possible to get a lens with near infinite depth of field. The guy didn't listen to them and spent 10 years tinkering with lenses in his garage before coming up with the Frazier lens and it is amazing. I'm glad he wasn't a scientist who would have debunked the whole idea before even starting on it.
Now the descriptions of the lens state how it is just a so and so and fits the physics just fine. I think the physicists have updated their worldview to accept the new discovery already. And that is not the only example of this sort I have heard of, just the one I can think of right now.
When the company spends time customizing the software for the specific use knowing ahead of time that the use is a human rights abuse, then you can blame them. If it is out of the box software, then they would not be liable. It isn't that complicated.
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Or even just a self destructing message like those used in the Mission Impossible shows and movies. We can't have information that would be available if a warrant were issues to be gone now can we? I guess we next have to outlaw shredders and any type of fire as well.
That was basically what I thought. It seems really expensive and why not just wait to see it on disk or Amazon streaming. But if you had 5 or more people watching it together it would probably be cheaper to watch it at home. Add in the cost of snacks and that you could make a party out of it and get 8-10 people over depending on your room layout then it is damn cheap.
Of course most people don't have the same sound system an in a theater. Even a fairly good one just doesn't have the size and number of speakers as you find an a cinema setup. Screen size might be ok because you are closer, but there is something about looking at that huge screen in front of you also.
Try getting a weight operated cuckoo clock. You have to adjust the pendulum up or down on the wooden stick to get the time rate close but it is never correct. If I can get it so it stays within a minute each day I am happy with it. So at least once a week you have to move the minute hand. And twice a day you have to pull the three weights back up to the top. Now talk about a lot of effort to keep time.
LOL. A large portion of people don't have a chance against their attacker. It just is even harder when they can attack with range.
So just because you might not have a chance at self defense we should outlaw it completely to ensure that if you are to be targeted as a victim then you must become a victim? If everyone can't be saved then no one should be! Got it!
And no, it's not about the gun. It's indiscriminate mass murder.
Because that is just soo likely to happen we should use it as our basis on what we do each day. I need milk, but there is indiscriminate mass murder out there, I better not go. I could call Peapod, but they might be an indiscriminate mass murderer, so that rules that out.
you are culturally quite fucked up when someone can be peacefully sitting in a classroom and someone else comes in and starts killing en mass for no good reason.
Can't go get an education because some indiscriminate mass murder might show up.
By the way in my case and my example, if he had a gun and I had a gun, I'd still be the dead one
You might be the dead one. Or if the guy who tried to stab you actually stabbed you and killed you, you might be dead then. Or if you had a gut and he only had a knife you might still be the dead one. There are all kinds of what if's out there but that does not make it so you just say you can't defend yourself when someone is trying to kill you. It just might turn out that you shoot the guy that is stabbing you before he deals the deadly blow. It has happened before to plenty of people. They don't make the national news as often though because it isn't quite conforming to the narrative people want to see.
and unless some woman is walking down the street with the gun drawn and ready to kill any person who looks dodgy, she too will still get raped.
I'm sure that no woman even has defended herself with a gun, right? That is your argument, that is has never worked in the history of guns? Why would we have them if they never worked in all of history? I guess they work for the bad guys, so that is why we build so many of them, they want them.
You may not reduce the pre-meditated homicide rate by much, and indeed many countries haven't, but you eliminate an entire class of crimes of hot-headedness, mass murder, and give victims a fighting chance.
Unless it's the victims that might have defended themselves with a gun. A small woman does not have much of a fighting chance against a large rapist with a weapon. If she is armed it is much more evenly matched. And if she is armed and skilled the odds would be on her side. But we only care about gun victims, right? Who cares about the rape and murder victims?
Right, because Sandy Hook isn't as suspicious as the official 9/11 story! Is in typical that they don't allow ambulances and medical personnel where there are dying kids?
In spite of his god-like status among some of you, Mr. Snowden wouldn't know what capabilities the FBI has or doesn't have. He didn't work there, and he wouldn't have had a need to know, so he would never have been briefed on such. But, let's not let that get in the way of the Snowden gospel.
Right! Because the FBI is unable to do what any lab that solders circuit boards and programs flash chips has the capability to do! If the FBI can't figure it out because they are too incompetent, then they can hire any one of these hundreds of companies that are fully capable to do it for them.
I wasn't arguing for/against their case, only that the article is basically just click-bait. For whatever it's worth, I side with Apple on this. Not because I don't feel for the victims, but because their loss shouldn't affect our freedom.
I was simply pointing out that copying a flash chip is not so difficult that one would have to know the inner workings of the FBI to figure out that they either have that capability or can contract it out if needed. Perhaps there are reasons that it isn't as simple as that, but from the articles I have read in the last day it seems pretty straight forward and something they can accomplish. It may be a slower road to keep replacing the chip with another programmed one, but we are talking capability not how quickly it can be done.
In spite of his god-like status among some of you, Mr. Snowden wouldn't know what capabilities the FBI has or doesn't have. He didn't work there, and he wouldn't have had a need to know, so he would never have been briefed on such. But, let's not let that get in the way of the Snowden gospel.
Right! Because the FBI is unable to do what any lab that solders circuit boards and programs flash chips has the capability to do! If the FBI can't figure it out because they are too incompetent, then they can hire any one of these hundreds of companies that are fully capable to do it for them.
Yes! I recently discovered the awesomeness of cast iron pans from getting a cast iron camping dutch oven first. They are awesome and very non-stick. Even cheese on scrambled eggs refuses to stick and crisps into a nice golden brown. The only drawback is the weight. It can be hard to lift the pan for whatever reason. I guess keeping the seasoning good is a little effort also, but not bad. Small price to pay though.
No, moron, we did not. PTFE is one of the least reactive substances in existence and is not dangerous to anyone at all. One of the chemicals *formerly* used in the production of PTFE was found to be toxic. The resulting coating is not.
As long as it isn't heated on the stove that is. Makes it pretty useless for frying pans though.
Ape #1: Dear me. What are these things coming out of her nose?
Ape #2: Spaceballs.
Ape #1: Oh, shit. There goes the planet.
Decrypting the phone is exactly what they want you to do. Once it is decrypted then the cyber virus is unleashed upon the world to bring about the fall of all technology. And I think there is a non-cyber virus in there also that will infect 99.9% of the population and kill them within minutes.
See, the San Bernadino DA is one of the terrorists. That's how he knows about the cyber-virus. That's why he wants it decrypted. He has already gotten the immunity for the civilization destroying biological weapon locked up in the phone and he wants it to be released so it can start the work they planned.
Not to mention that the article even said the only controller that will work is the XBOX controller. So who needs to configure a Steam controller if the controller won't even work with any games. I absolutely LOVE my Steam controller. I will very easily switch to gaming on Linux before I will give up that thing. Linux is already my non-gaming computer, so switching my gaming one over is an easy step.
It's no a question of punishment. It's a question of whether potential new victims have the right to be forewarned about people that have demonstrated harmful behavior in the past which they are likely to repeat in the future. The only part open to debate is how likely they are to reoffend, but as long as the probability is non-zero, I believe potential future victims have a right to know.
So we should have a burglary registry, and a murder registry too. And how about a registry for people who speed, we need to know if these dangerous people like in our neighborhood so we can remove them. We should have a registry for everything so we can tell how evil all the people are that live near us and compare it to how many registries we ourselves are on.
On a side note, the whole "fact" about the recidivism rate of sexual predators is a lie. They actually have a lower recidivism than most other crimes.
I just watch the movie "Experimenter" on Netflix the other day. I think there might be a subtle difference between that and this. In the Milgram experiment many people did question the experimenter about giving more shocks when the person in the room was yelling on stopped making noises. When told they had to continue they did so by assuming the responsibility of anything going wrong was on the experimenter and not on them. One person in the movie even said something to that effect but I don't know how real to life the movie actually was. In this robot guide experiment it isn't so much about passing responsibility for the outcome onto someone else, it is more about following someone or something you believe to know better than you. In a way I can see that they are passing on the responsibility for their own safety on to someone/something else, so maybe it compares in a way. But I bet nobody would continue pressing the shock button when the experimenter told them to if it was hooked up to their own arm.
And let's not forget the kid that got shot for having a candy bar in his hand. It isn't just pretend guts that get you shot by the above the law folks in blue!
My favorite is how the Superintendent (not sure on the actual title) of the Chicago police though that the officer that shot another person who was unarmed should not even be investigated. No need right! They are a cop, then the laws don't touch them, so why even charge them and investigate. Yeah, the higher-ups like that need to be taken out with a few sniper rifles until the replacements realize we don't want a bunch of thugs breaking the law running around out there pretending to be a lawful organization!
I see two points of interest in relation to the warrants the FBI has been granted.
For one, what ever happened to the whole "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects" that is in the 4th amendment. I guess with a warrant it still fits because it goes on with the text describing that warrants shall be necessary. But once they have this cracked version of the iOS, I don't believe they will wait for a warrant each time they want to open a phone. They certainly don't care about warrants with some of the other things they have done in the past. When you break the law enough times you can no longer call yourself a lawful organization and you need to be disbanded and each accessory and member of the criminal organization needs to be put in jail for life.
Number two, what if the warrant asked for impossible things. "You must crack this 8192 bit key" or "You must drill into the core of the Earth and retrieve samples for us". The court can rule whatever it wants, it doesn't make it reality though! I am sure this will become more relevant if/when Apple makes it so they can't crack their own phones anymore. I guess at that point it just becomes a "you must put a backdoor into the phone" request.
When you want to sell in China, you need to decide if you can follow their rules. If you can, then you can sell there. In the USA, where Apple was formed, you can follow the rules also, and Apple has helped the police and FBI with plenty of warrants and probably non-warranted assistance. But when you see the FBI making a request that is against the counties constitution you than make a choice. Do you ignore it and let your own country become as low as the worst places in the world, like China, or do you fight it and show the courts and the citizens what assholes and terrorists we have running the three letter agencies.
Don't forget, it's only this "ONE" phone. Except they could only keep that lie going for a day before they mentioned the other two phones that they would like cracked next, not to mention the hundreds that the New York police have lined up waiting next. When everything the FBI mouthpieces speak is shown to be a lie, then the courts should reject any argument they put forth as probable lie and throw them out of the court, if not directly into jail.
That's not what he's saying. He says that earths are statistically rare.
And how can he possibly know that given the tiny sample size of solar systems we have seen so far compared to the number in the universe? Suppose the chance of an Earth-like world forming is one in a billion. Given the number of solar systems we have studied so far it would be entirely possible that we had not seen one so far and yet with 400 billion stars there would be 400 "Earths" in the Milky-way alone let alone in the billions of galaxies in the universe. Extrapolating to a universe of billions of galaxies each with hundreds of billions of stars using a sample size of what, a few thousand?, ten thousand?, is statistically daft...and having a model which agrees with your statistically insignificant sample does not make it any better.
It seems worse than that to me. He isn't just using a small sample size, he is using a sample that is skewed toward large planets that are close to their parent star. How many exo-Plutos have we found? How about exo-Mercurys? I don't think we have even found a planet as small as earth yet, but I could be wrong on that. When the reports of exo-Earths have come out they have been larger than our Earth, but they call them an exo-Earth because it might be in the Goldilocks zone.
Car analogies work so well, lets use one here. We will make a model that recreates all the cars on the road. But we will only input the semi-trucks and tour buses. I bet the model will say that sports cars are highly unlikely. I think the term is GIGO, Garbage In - Garbage Out.
Are you actually serious that you can't think of anything that can cause one planet to warm without causing other to follow suit? It seems like just 10 seconds of thought is all that is needed to think this through, so you must be trolling. Perhaps I am just falling for a subtle troll then.
Imagine this. . . Mars is approaching its perihelion (the point in its orbit where it is closest to the sun). Then Mars would get warmer, but if Earth was leaving its perihelion then it would be getting colder at the same time.
With quick thought you might also come up with volcano action, greenhouse effects, radioactive elements, bombardment by astroids, or world-wide wild fires. It isn't that complicated!
Personally, I don't trust the updates that come out for my Samsung phone. My last phone had the GPS functionality reduced by an official upgrade. There were other things after that upgrade that were removed causing me to loose some data. I now will not install the upgrade that has been in the notification bar for the last year. I am planning on putting Cyanogenmod on there because I do trust them to do upgrades that are good for the customer. But the official ones from Sprint and Samsung, no-way. If the Apple fans stopped trusting their beloved company perhaps they would be in a better position. Of course it isn't as easy to mod the Apple and still have access to the apps, so they are more stuck because of their initial decision.
On a side note, I trust Microsoft even less and never install their updates on my system. I have less fear from viruses and malware than I do from the update coming from Redmond. And with the amount of spying being built into their recent versions of their OS they have become a gaming system only for me. If I want to have a work computer to do things on, it will be Linux. If I want to play games on my big screen tv, I can use Windows. I guess I'm not too worried about them spying on which game I am playing. As the linux gaming environment improves perhaps that will change, but it still seems that the video cards work better and Windows.
If it wants to live on it's own then fine. If it insists on being a parasite feeding off of another person's body, then it does not deserve the rights of a full human being. Even a child does not have the full rights of an adult, unless they get emancipated.
the resulting cell ceases to be attributable to one of the two organisms that supplied the two cells that took part in the fertilization process. Therefore, neither of the two cell supplier organisms should be allowed to treat the resulting cell and any further cells, tissues, or people derived thereof, as if it were their own tissue).
So that would make it a parasite then. Can we expect to see a pro-parasite group fighting for the rights of the tape worm to live in your gut in peace next?
I came here to post the same thing... except that instead of sub-space sci-fi... I was going with mother nature... like your compass spinning when standing at magnetic north, I suspect they will stumble upon a method of extracting a minute amount of energy from the environment, and due to their lack of scientific understanding they will attribute it to perpetual motion rather than simple energy balance accounting. Then some scientist will come along and explain it in a few minutes and the "inventor" will be all sad because science crapped on their idea.
The bottom line is they spend years tinkering with an idea, that a scientist armed with a little math and chemistry can debunk in a matter of minutes... leaving the rest of the time to do real science.
I have heard of a examples where the scientist experts said something was impossible. And if something is not possible in physics then people who have the knowledge will not be so stupid to waste their time on it. Except sometimes the experts are wrong. The Frazier lens is an example of such a thing. Everybody who knew the physics about light and lenses said it was not possible to get a lens with near infinite depth of field. The guy didn't listen to them and spent 10 years tinkering with lenses in his garage before coming up with the Frazier lens and it is amazing. I'm glad he wasn't a scientist who would have debunked the whole idea before even starting on it.
Now the descriptions of the lens state how it is just a so and so and fits the physics just fine. I think the physicists have updated their worldview to accept the new discovery already. And that is not the only example of this sort I have heard of, just the one I can think of right now.
When the company spends time customizing the software for the specific use knowing ahead of time that the use is a human rights abuse, then you can blame them. If it is out of the box software, then they would not be liable. It isn't that complicated.