Yeah, but the vaccinated people can carry the bacteria and spread it to others without even knowing. The people who don't get vaccinated know they have it and can stop spreading it around. Also, once you get sick for real, you are immune for life. The vaccine wears off after ten years and you can get sick anyway.
Yeah, we should just let the TSA take on the extra duties. They already are used to taking away our personal freedom, so it's just the next step for them.
Yeah, and all those people who get vaccinated and then go into nursing homes years later should also be held criminally liable too. With whooping cough, the vaccinated people can still get the bacteria and carry it. So they infect all the elderly and immune compromised individuals while the unvaccinated will know when they are sick and can stay out of the nursing homes and day care centers.
When you actually look into the details of some of these outbreaks it isn't what it is sold as. In past outbreaks of whooping cough, most of the people getting sick and spreading it around were vaccinated. So the spread this news that there is an outbreak and we need more vaccination when the vaccination we already have isn't working anyway. It's just another ploy to take more freedoms away and force you to receive and pay for things whether you want them on not.
It keeps happening because they can get away with it. The solution is to start a "See a cop, film a cop" campaign
I guess that isn't bad. I would be happier with a "See a cop, Shoot a cop" campaign though. They put our lives in danger so it is only self defense to try to kill them.
they do a dangerous job and are constantly in situations where "right" and "wrong" often come down to split second decisions. Occasionally they are going to screw up
The cop should never be firing first only to find out later that it was just a little kid with a toy. The cops job is to put his life on the line to protect the rest of society. When he is killing innocent members of society to protect his own life then things are working the wrong way around. Any cop that shoots an innocent person should be killed in the center of town by guillotine or some other very public method with no trial or chance of parole. If they get shot at first, then they have the right to shoot back.
Perhaps they should all have their guns taken away from them. Doesn't that work for the cops in the UK? Obviously they can go back to the station if there is some situation that needs a shoot-out. It's like the policy of not chasing a speeding car some departments have as that just puts the public in danger. If criminals don't have to worry about being shot, they don't have to try shooting at the police as often.
If the police are going to break the law and become criminals, then we need vigilante justice to bring them to terms. The current systems in place don't hold them to account. If an officer is shot for any reason it should be automatically considered self defense and completely justified. If I need to worry about any interaction with a thug in blue being dangerous for my life, then preemptive killing of all thugs in blue is the only way to stay safe. They can't stay within the law, then they need to be taken out of the population.
I truly do feel a bit of joy every time I hear about a cop being killed. They have been out of control for far too long. And don't even try to say they aren't all bad. If the good ones aren't turning in their buddies for the crimes they see being committed or even arresting them, then they are bad too. It stands to reason if you turn in your fellow officers your work place will be very uncomfortable and you will not get the back up from others when you need it. So even the "good" ones turn bad when they are complicit in the crimes going on around them.
I'm not a Keurig fan by any stretch. I use a french press at home. But you seem to lack any sort of creative imagination. Here's the alternate story.
Ever have a group of people over who would like some coffee? Sow now instead of each person getting to brew the coffee variety of flavor or decaf level that they would like in an individual cup, you have to brew many full or partial full pots of coffee so people can be happy. Or you just say screw you to your guests and make them drink the fully caffeinated super dark roast because that is what you like, and they can just suck it!
Basically, the group of people is when the Keurig is most handy. Each person can have their own flavor. And when you want a second cup you don't have to worry about the pot being cold or stale. It is a new brew right in your cup.
My in-laws have one and we use it when visiting. The second place I have found it to be handy is my new place of work. Nothing is supplied but the brewer. Rather than have a coffee fund or something each person just gets their own pods and cream or sugar as they desire. Works pretty well for ease of managing.
- The planet Theia *collided* into the Earth. A certain amount of the debris coalesced into the moon.
Is it know for sure that the collision would have completely liquefied the planet? It makes some logical sense that the impact hitting on one side of the planet would have produced or left a bulge on the other side. This could be where Pangaea came from then. Obviously if the entire planet became liquefied then there would be no bulge. But if a portion of it was left as a crust it could be an explanation for how the continents started out as one super continent so long ago.
I think if the changes are guided then it isn't quite considered evolution, or if you prefer, Darwinian evolution. I don't think many people would consider the breeding of a new dog breed to be Darwinian evolution as the mate selection and traits selected for have nothing to do with it's ability to survive. Some smaller breed have such big heads that they can only give birth by c-section. That animal, as a species, would not do to well in the wild. If an AI was selecting it's own changes it is quite similar. It goes even further from what we think of as evolution because the changes can be implemented in it's own self. It does not have to have offspring that compete for resources and mates. It can decide what changes it wants and reprogram itself to have them. Quite a short cut from the standard model of evolution.
It doesn't matter what you download. I wanted to get Chrome for my PC after a fresh install. IE/Bing led me to an infected version to download. I'm sure that Microsoft is just fine with people who install Chrome ending up with viruses, but I know who is really at fault and that is why I detest MS to the core. If it weren't for the games I wouldn't even use it. And even then, I refuse to give them money for their lock in.
The top of a large mountain would have a faster rate of time than at the base, according to relativity. So over a million years, the top will have moved into the future in relation to the base. But the planet spins once each day. The base and the top align to a certain star at the same time each day. How can they experience a different time if they spin an the same rate. Perhaps we are measuring time with things that do not keep constant. If we made a clock based on the spinning of the planet, it would not change based on gravity or speed.
It is true that he said some pretty stupid things on Facebook. But from what I heard on public radio this morning, he did have disclaimers on the pages saying that it was only ranting and venting of his frustrations and not to be taken seriously. That seems to show that he did not mean the threats seriously. If you let anybody take offence to anything said, then I have plenty of stuff to through all the politicians and even the President into jail for!
And yes, you simply don't CARE about the unending suffering of billions of animals. Care to explain why?
And why don't you care about the suffering of the plants? Do you think they don't feel pain? They certainly do. They even communicate to each other when being attacked by insects or bacteria and viruses. You care about one life form over another, but that does not mean anything in the grand scheme. You probably have no problem swatting a mosquito that is biting you, or pulling a tick out of your skin and killing it. Life feeds on life. Get used to it!
Well I know for a fact that they can live on their own in the walls of your house just fine! I came out one night to feed on my brother. Nasty little bloodsucker!
On the flip-side of this though is the MPAA. They are not a government organization, nor are they mandated by the government. They do possess quite the power to stop certain things from being shown in movie theaters though. Plenty of producers have forced the editing of movies so they could avoid certain ratings. And we are not even allowed to know who the people are who produce the ratings, or how they are created. It is a black box that controls what gets shown in theaters. Check out the movie "This Film Is Not Yet Rated (2006)" [imdb.com] if you want more details.
This mission has been compared to "throwing a hammer from London and hitting a nail in New Delhi".
Why do all the comparisons involve a non-powered ballistic object like a bullet or in this case a hammer. The Rosetta probe does have thrusters on it and can adjust it's trajectory to hit the comet. It would be more like a heat seeking missile shot at a flare.
They originally thought there would be no shadows because comets are very smooth and round. It wasn't until the Rosetta probe came close that they saw what it actually looked like.
"It seems to me the design and/or planning of this mission were poorly thought out"
Is the funniest fucking thing I've heard all day. Do you have any idea how well thought out this mission was? FFS look at the trajectory it took 10 YEARS(!) to get to the comet. And you think they overlooked the fact that the comet is craggly?
If they knew it was craggly, then why were they surprised at how irregularly shaped it was. I remember them saying how they suspected comets would be much more smooth than this was and they had a tricky time trying to find good places to land.
The mysterious "Band of Holes" seems like it could be the result of an automated drones that left foot prints or bore holes during it's operation here on Earth. http://www.crystalinks.com/ban...
I might be a customer of the game company, but I refuse to be a customer of Microsoft. If I am required to use their system to play games I can at least pirate it so they get no monetary consideration from me!
In other words, if you assume that the Earth is the stationary center of the universe, with the rest of observed reality rotating around it, the numbers still work just fine....
I think the real point of relativity is that not only do the numbers work, but that there's absolutely nothing more or less true about that assumption than there is about assuming any other frame of reference. They're all perfectly valid, not just numerically, but because the laws of the universe are fundamentally consistent and favor no frame of reference over any other. Indeed, the way relativity came about was because Einstein felt like such fundamental consistency was how things had to be, and then proceeded to work out the math needed to describe a universe that behaved that way.
And then experimentalists verified that his mathematical model indeed works in every case that we have been able to measure. Which is a deeply extraordinary fact.
Sure, we devised mathematics to model bits of the universe, but the fact that the models work perfectly so far beyond what was being modeled is really mind-blowing -- and to me, at least, strongly implies that we shouldn't simply ignore singularities and other corner cases in the models.
It may work out mathematically the same way. But, if the universe was rotating around the earth, then there are a whole lot of stars and galaxies out there that are travelling much faster than the speed of light. Since nothing can travel faster than that speed, doesn't that mean the two are not equivalent?
Thanks for all of the info. I read up on this stuff, but it is nice to have someone who understands it better put things into another way to look at it that makes things a little easier to understand.
Your point about gravity being a conservative force where the object speeds up the same amount that it slows down when leaving makes sense. I should have thought of that as I do know that objects in space aren't just captured in orbit without making some sort of changes to their velocity. This then makes me wonder how the dark matter ever gathered together in the first place with the galaxies.
The exact GR you speak of sounds interesting. Is that related to calculating the gravity in the galaxy more accurately than treating it as all the mass being in the center? Because the matter at the edge of the spiral is getting pulled by all the other matter around. And with it moving toward some of the mass and away from some other mass, it could be seeing some sort of gravity red-shift that causes a further speed up (I am thinking of the speed of gravity and the searched for gravity waves). I don't quite see how that would hold the elliptical galaxies together in the same fashion as they are all moving pretty randomly as I understand it.
And thinking about the idea of dark energy, after watching some videos on these subjects, makes me wonder if the big bang isn't just a mis-interpretation of the expansion due to this dark energy phenomenon. There is the cosmic microwave background radiation that supposedly comes from the early big bang. But if there was another place that could come from. . . I guess it still leads to a smaller universe in the distant past and you don't quite get around it leading back to a point in space. Unless new matter is created somewhere in between the current matter. Then you could have expansion indefinitely where it didn't start at one point or one time.
The universe is a pretty interesting place. From the quantum scale where totally weird things take place, to the cosmic scale where unexplained things are observed. I just hope we find some answers to this stuff because it sure would suck to stay in the dark for the rest of my life. And it seems like dark matter and dark energy should be two aspects of one think somehow. Like if we really understood how gravity worked, perhaps quantum gravity, they would both be explained there.
Again, thanks for the time you have given posting your very informative text.
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Yeah, but the vaccinated people can carry the bacteria and spread it to others without even knowing. The people who don't get vaccinated know they have it and can stop spreading it around. Also, once you get sick for real, you are immune for life. The vaccine wears off after ten years and you can get sick anyway.
Yeah, we should just let the TSA take on the extra duties. They already are used to taking away our personal freedom, so it's just the next step for them.
Yeah, and all those people who get vaccinated and then go into nursing homes years later should also be held criminally liable too. With whooping cough, the vaccinated people can still get the bacteria and carry it. So they infect all the elderly and immune compromised individuals while the unvaccinated will know when they are sick and can stay out of the nursing homes and day care centers.
When you actually look into the details of some of these outbreaks it isn't what it is sold as. In past outbreaks of whooping cough, most of the people getting sick and spreading it around were vaccinated. So the spread this news that there is an outbreak and we need more vaccination when the vaccination we already have isn't working anyway. It's just another ploy to take more freedoms away and force you to receive and pay for things whether you want them on not.
It keeps happening because they can get away with it. The solution is to start a "See a cop, film a cop" campaign
I guess that isn't bad. I would be happier with a "See a cop, Shoot a cop" campaign though. They put our lives in danger so it is only self defense to try to kill them.
Bull shit. Cops are trained extensively.
The problem is that their extensive training is about how to act like a thug with a badge.
they do a dangerous job and are constantly in situations where "right" and "wrong" often come down to split second decisions. Occasionally they are going to screw up
The cop should never be firing first only to find out later that it was just a little kid with a toy. The cops job is to put his life on the line to protect the rest of society. When he is killing innocent members of society to protect his own life then things are working the wrong way around. Any cop that shoots an innocent person should be killed in the center of town by guillotine or some other very public method with no trial or chance of parole. If they get shot at first, then they have the right to shoot back.
Perhaps they should all have their guns taken away from them. Doesn't that work for the cops in the UK? Obviously they can go back to the station if there is some situation that needs a shoot-out. It's like the policy of not chasing a speeding car some departments have as that just puts the public in danger. If criminals don't have to worry about being shot, they don't have to try shooting at the police as often.
If the police are going to break the law and become criminals, then we need vigilante justice to bring them to terms. The current systems in place don't hold them to account. If an officer is shot for any reason it should be automatically considered self defense and completely justified. If I need to worry about any interaction with a thug in blue being dangerous for my life, then preemptive killing of all thugs in blue is the only way to stay safe. They can't stay within the law, then they need to be taken out of the population.
I truly do feel a bit of joy every time I hear about a cop being killed. They have been out of control for far too long. And don't even try to say they aren't all bad. If the good ones aren't turning in their buddies for the crimes they see being committed or even arresting them, then they are bad too. It stands to reason if you turn in your fellow officers your work place will be very uncomfortable and you will not get the back up from others when you need it. So even the "good" ones turn bad when they are complicit in the crimes going on around them.
I'm not a Keurig fan by any stretch. I use a french press at home. But you seem to lack any sort of creative imagination. Here's the alternate story.
Ever have a group of people over who would like some coffee? Sow now instead of each person getting to brew the coffee variety of flavor or decaf level that they would like in an individual cup, you have to brew many full or partial full pots of coffee so people can be happy. Or you just say screw you to your guests and make them drink the fully caffeinated super dark roast because that is what you like, and they can just suck it!
Basically, the group of people is when the Keurig is most handy. Each person can have their own flavor. And when you want a second cup you don't have to worry about the pot being cold or stale. It is a new brew right in your cup.
My in-laws have one and we use it when visiting. The second place I have found it to be handy is my new place of work. Nothing is supplied but the brewer. Rather than have a coffee fund or something each person just gets their own pods and cream or sugar as they desire. Works pretty well for ease of managing.
- The planet Theia *collided* into the Earth. A certain amount of the debris coalesced into the moon.
Is it know for sure that the collision would have completely liquefied the planet? It makes some logical sense that the impact hitting on one side of the planet would have produced or left a bulge on the other side. This could be where Pangaea came from then. Obviously if the entire planet became liquefied then there would be no bulge. But if a portion of it was left as a crust it could be an explanation for how the continents started out as one super continent so long ago.
I think if the changes are guided then it isn't quite considered evolution, or if you prefer, Darwinian evolution. I don't think many people would consider the breeding of a new dog breed to be Darwinian evolution as the mate selection and traits selected for have nothing to do with it's ability to survive. Some smaller breed have such big heads that they can only give birth by c-section. That animal, as a species, would not do to well in the wild. If an AI was selecting it's own changes it is quite similar. It goes even further from what we think of as evolution because the changes can be implemented in it's own self. It does not have to have offspring that compete for resources and mates. It can decide what changes it wants and reprogram itself to have them. Quite a short cut from the standard model of evolution.
It doesn't matter what you download. I wanted to get Chrome for my PC after a fresh install. IE/Bing led me to an infected version to download. I'm sure that Microsoft is just fine with people who install Chrome ending up with viruses, but I know who is really at fault and that is why I detest MS to the core. If it weren't for the games I wouldn't even use it. And even then, I refuse to give them money for their lock in.
The top of a large mountain would have a faster rate of time than at the base, according to relativity. So over a million years, the top will have moved into the future in relation to the base. But the planet spins once each day. The base and the top align to a certain star at the same time each day. How can they experience a different time if they spin an the same rate. Perhaps we are measuring time with things that do not keep constant. If we made a clock based on the spinning of the planet, it would not change based on gravity or speed.
It is true that he said some pretty stupid things on Facebook. But from what I heard on public radio this morning, he did have disclaimers on the pages saying that it was only ranting and venting of his frustrations and not to be taken seriously. That seems to show that he did not mean the threats seriously. If you let anybody take offence to anything said, then I have plenty of stuff to through all the politicians and even the President into jail for!
And yes, you simply don't CARE about the unending suffering of billions of animals. Care to explain why?
And why don't you care about the suffering of the plants? Do you think they don't feel pain? They certainly do. They even communicate to each other when being attacked by insects or bacteria and viruses. You care about one life form over another, but that does not mean anything in the grand scheme. You probably have no problem swatting a mosquito that is biting you, or pulling a tick out of your skin and killing it. Life feeds on life. Get used to it!
Well I know for a fact that they can live on their own in the walls of your house just fine! I came out one night to feed on my brother. Nasty little bloodsucker!
On the flip-side of this though is the MPAA. They are not a government organization, nor are they mandated by the government. They do possess quite the power to stop certain things from being shown in movie theaters though. Plenty of producers have forced the editing of movies so they could avoid certain ratings. And we are not even allowed to know who the people are who produce the ratings, or how they are created. It is a black box that controls what gets shown in theaters. Check out the movie "This Film Is Not Yet Rated (2006)" [imdb.com] if you want more details.
This mission has been compared to "throwing a hammer from London and hitting a nail in New Delhi".
Why do all the comparisons involve a non-powered ballistic object like a bullet or in this case a hammer. The Rosetta probe does have thrusters on it and can adjust it's trajectory to hit the comet. It would be more like a heat seeking missile shot at a flare.
They originally thought there would be no shadows because comets are very smooth and round. It wasn't until the Rosetta probe came close that they saw what it actually looked like.
"It seems to me the design and/or planning of this mission were poorly thought out"
Is the funniest fucking thing I've heard all day. Do you have any idea how well thought out this mission was? FFS look at the trajectory it took 10 YEARS(!) to get to the comet. And you think they overlooked the fact that the comet is craggly?
If they knew it was craggly, then why were they surprised at how irregularly shaped it was. I remember them saying how they suspected comets would be much more smooth than this was and they had a tricky time trying to find good places to land.
The mysterious "Band of Holes" seems like it could be the result of an automated drones that left foot prints or bore holes during it's operation here on Earth. http://www.crystalinks.com/ban...
I might be a customer of the game company, but I refuse to be a customer of Microsoft. If I am required to use their system to play games I can at least pirate it so they get no monetary consideration from me!
The establishment of that standard is why, of all developed countries, US still has the strongest protection for political speech.
Unless you don't happen to be in a "Free Speech Zone" while doing it.
In other words, if you assume that the Earth is the stationary center of the universe, with the rest of observed reality rotating around it, the numbers still work just fine....
I think the real point of relativity is that not only do the numbers work, but that there's absolutely nothing more or less true about that assumption than there is about assuming any other frame of reference. They're all perfectly valid, not just numerically, but because the laws of the universe are fundamentally consistent and favor no frame of reference over any other. Indeed, the way relativity came about was because Einstein felt like such fundamental consistency was how things had to be, and then proceeded to work out the math needed to describe a universe that behaved that way.
And then experimentalists verified that his mathematical model indeed works in every case that we have been able to measure. Which is a deeply extraordinary fact.
Sure, we devised mathematics to model bits of the universe, but the fact that the models work perfectly so far beyond what was being modeled is really mind-blowing -- and to me, at least, strongly implies that we shouldn't simply ignore singularities and other corner cases in the models.
It may work out mathematically the same way. But, if the universe was rotating around the earth, then there are a whole lot of stars and galaxies out there that are travelling much faster than the speed of light. Since nothing can travel faster than that speed, doesn't that mean the two are not equivalent?
Thanks for all of the info. I read up on this stuff, but it is nice to have someone who understands it better put things into another way to look at it that makes things a little easier to understand.
Your point about gravity being a conservative force where the object speeds up the same amount that it slows down when leaving makes sense. I should have thought of that as I do know that objects in space aren't just captured in orbit without making some sort of changes to their velocity. This then makes me wonder how the dark matter ever gathered together in the first place with the galaxies.
The exact GR you speak of sounds interesting. Is that related to calculating the gravity in the galaxy more accurately than treating it as all the mass being in the center? Because the matter at the edge of the spiral is getting pulled by all the other matter around. And with it moving toward some of the mass and away from some other mass, it could be seeing some sort of gravity red-shift that causes a further speed up (I am thinking of the speed of gravity and the searched for gravity waves). I don't quite see how that would hold the elliptical galaxies together in the same fashion as they are all moving pretty randomly as I understand it.
And thinking about the idea of dark energy, after watching some videos on these subjects, makes me wonder if the big bang isn't just a mis-interpretation of the expansion due to this dark energy phenomenon. There is the cosmic microwave background radiation that supposedly comes from the early big bang. But if there was another place that could come from. . . I guess it still leads to a smaller universe in the distant past and you don't quite get around it leading back to a point in space. Unless new matter is created somewhere in between the current matter. Then you could have expansion indefinitely where it didn't start at one point or one time.
The universe is a pretty interesting place. From the quantum scale where totally weird things take place, to the cosmic scale where unexplained things are observed. I just hope we find some answers to this stuff because it sure would suck to stay in the dark for the rest of my life. And it seems like dark matter and dark energy should be two aspects of one think somehow. Like if we really understood how gravity worked, perhaps quantum gravity, they would both be explained there.
Again, thanks for the time you have given posting your very informative text.