As asinine as my OP was, it was made to illustrate a point. Pilots *SHOULD* be armed. Period. They, not the silly little air marshals out back (with all due respect), are the ultimate arbiter (except for bombs or missiles of course) of the safety of that aircraft, and the first to the scene of the accident.
"Dude you gotta read something" is a bit of a vague reference I'm sure you'll agree.
Yeah, that was a bit facetious of me. Spoofing ports themselves without the handshake is possible, I will concede and has indeed been used by many attacks in the past. IP spoofing, on the other hand, cannot proceed to this point with properly set up ingress rules. If someone tries to spoof my machines on my network via my widea-area adapter, I can prevent it on ingress. But you are 100% right that ISP's can do more to prevent this type of attack.
As to your second point, other than a honeypot, there's no sense in leaving an unprotected bastion host, and with built in firewalls in Linux and no XP (perhaps other versions of windows to come), there's no reason not to firewall your machines against each other. That still doesn't protect against attacks made from your local machines to your database server, but if you're routing/firewalling rules are set up properly, you've got bigger problems if that's happening (comprised apache/iis servers perhaps).
No, because this sets a bad example/precedent. Oh, we're going out of business. IBM's our customer. Let's sue IBM, get bought out, get some cash, and get out while we can!
Nope, not at all what IBM wants. It's like giving into terrorist demands. It's just not done.
I walked into a Rush concert not so long ago, and let me tell you, had I had a bomb on me, I could have done a lot more damage to more people there than I could have on an airplane, and no one is making me give up my ID to go see a concert.
Anyone want to start an airline where this is acceptable practice? Tickets are printed out with: Occupants of this aircraft are assumed at all times to be armed with large caliber people killing bullets. Your purchase of this ticket confirms your acceptance to either carry a big gun, or STFU and enjoy the ride.
TWA 800 is still remembered so well because the government went to great extents to convince the American public that a rogue Navy missile didn't destroy the plane.
Conspiracy theories aside, the CIA movies showing the breakup process of the aircraft left me thoroughly unconvinced.
Which wouldn't be an issue if the pilot had an H&K MP5 under the steering wheel. You want to take this plane, fine, try getting through my 9mm rounds, 3 at a time.
People without weapons are no match for two people trained in the use of a high-powered sub machine gun, especially along a narrow point of entry (cockpit door).
Mine granddads did, all three of them (stepmothers dad included), until they were too old to lay on hot, hard asphalt for hours, or lost the ability to see or turn wrenches.
Hell, my grandpappy did it with one hand (the other paralysed by a Korean War-era bullet).
I still do, except those repairs that require computer diagnostics (no $$$ for a $2000 computer and codes CD), or special tools (which I'll sometimes rent if I can, spring compressor, for example).
A properly built codec will plug into existing content creation systems. Building Adobe Premiere for this codec would be a waste of time. Other people have done it better already.
The only way that an inbound google would get rejected (when requested via outbound client query) would be if you weren't running a stateful firewall, but a dumbass packet filter. Since ipfw/iptables is stateful, the problem doesn't occur.
Are you serious? You let spoofed packets into your network from "out there"? Dude, spoofed packets have had solutions for years. I suggest you do a little reading and learn a little about firewalling.
I'm sorry, but how is adding an incoming port block on a firewall going to prevent using google? Serving up a quake server, maybe, but outgoing surfing and the like sure isn't going to stop him.
And if it's IP based, there's a whole lotta IP addresses in the world... methinks he'll run out of kernel memory long before he's finished blocking them all.
When I was a kid, 10, or 12 not really sure, I got introduced to the realities of firearms. A big production was made about rounding up all the dogs and putting the horses away. Then the gun was retrieved from the closet. Climbed to the cupola. Then Pepe disappeared for 20 minutes and came back with.22 ammo. Then we shot 10, 20 rounds into 2x4's. It was a demonstration that is permanently etched into my memory. I remember little from those years, but I will always remember the size of the little.22 hole going in, and the giant divet taken out of the back of the 2x4.
90% of Americans (I'd gather) have never touched a gun, nor seen what they can do other than movies, Real Police Videos, and Discovery Channel documentaries.
They have no respect for the power of firearms, nor for the immense peace that firing weapons can bring to the soul, knowing that you can wield the power to take a life, yet be respectful enough not to. They are afraid. They are far removed from the people the Framers represented. They don't have to hunt for food. They don't huddle in shacks burning wet wood and wearing dirty clothes eating maggoty bread and facing constant Indian attack.
No, they go to PTA meetings, bitch about the price of water service to the house, and zoning variances about how far from the sidewalk they can plant flowerbeds, or go on a rampage and destroy some kid's treehouse because of an unreasonable fear that their own property value is somehow diminshed.
That is the reality of America today. And it sickens me.
I hate to say it, but if it comes down to a revolution, a concealed weapon is all that allows a revolutionary the ability to perform certain missions. You can't conceal a long gun.
I agree with you, to a point. If you could guarantee that criminals wouldn't have handguns, I'd agree with you even more. If you could guarantee that criminals wouldn't have knives and bats and sticks and tire irons, I'd agree even more. If you could guarantee that criminals wouldn't rape and kill a young woman out for a morning jog, I'd agree with you 100%.
But you cannot guarantee that, so a handgun is the perfect answer in a no so perfect world, if the user so chooses to become trained and armed.
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As asinine as my OP was, it was made to illustrate a point. Pilots *SHOULD* be armed. Period. They, not the silly little air marshals out back (with all due respect), are the ultimate arbiter (except for bombs or missiles of course) of the safety of that aircraft, and the first to the scene of the accident.
My not so humble opinion.
"Dude you gotta read something" is a bit of a vague reference I'm sure you'll agree.
Yeah, that was a bit facetious of me. Spoofing ports themselves without the handshake is possible, I will concede and has indeed been used by many attacks in the past. IP spoofing, on the other hand, cannot proceed to this point with properly set up ingress rules. If someone tries to spoof my machines on my network via my widea-area adapter, I can prevent it on ingress. But you are 100% right that ISP's can do more to prevent this type of attack.
As to your second point, other than a honeypot, there's no sense in leaving an unprotected bastion host, and with built in firewalls in Linux and no XP (perhaps other versions of windows to come), there's no reason not to firewall your machines against each other. That still doesn't protect against attacks made from your local machines to your database server, but if you're routing/firewalling rules are set up properly, you've got bigger problems if that's happening (comprised apache/iis servers perhaps).
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No, because this sets a bad example/precedent. Oh, we're going out of business. IBM's our customer. Let's sue IBM, get bought out, get some cash, and get out while we can!
Nope, not at all what IBM wants. It's like giving into terrorist demands. It's just not done.
The answer could be making it much more difficult to fake IDs or give government issued IDs to people who are known bad guys.
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ROTFLMAO.
I walked into a Rush concert not so long ago, and let me tell you, had I had a bomb on me, I could have done a lot more damage to more people there than I could have on an airplane, and no one is making me give up my ID to go see a concert.
So what? A seat's a seat. It's just an excuse for the airlines to swing another $50 fee out of you. It's robbery, is what it is...
Right. Plastic Id's in an incendiary inferno. Human remains seldom survive intact, what makes you think an ID will?
My dog tags might survive, which is why I wear them, but my license and passport surely won't.
Anyone want to start an airline where this is acceptable practice? Tickets are printed out with: Occupants of this aircraft are assumed at all times to be armed with large caliber people killing bullets. Your purchase of this ticket confirms your acceptance to either carry a big gun, or STFU and enjoy the ride.
TWA 800 is still remembered so well because the government went to great extents to convince the American public that a rogue Navy missile didn't destroy the plane.
Conspiracy theories aside, the CIA movies showing the breakup process of the aircraft left me thoroughly unconvinced.
Which wouldn't be an issue if the pilot had an H&K MP5 under the steering wheel. You want to take this plane, fine, try getting through my 9mm rounds, 3 at a time.
People without weapons are no match for two people trained in the use of a high-powered sub machine gun, especially along a narrow point of entry (cockpit door).
Amendment X: Those rights not enumerated for the federal government herein are reserved for the States, or the People.
Your right to breath oxygen isn't in the Constitution either...
Mine granddads did, all three of them (stepmothers dad included), until they were too old to lay on hot, hard asphalt for hours, or lost the ability to see or turn wrenches.
Hell, my grandpappy did it with one hand (the other paralysed by a Korean War-era bullet).
I still do, except those repairs that require computer diagnostics (no $$$ for a $2000 computer and codes CD), or special tools (which I'll sometimes rent if I can, spring compressor, for example).
Okay, so the Canadarm is the real hero. And the fool on Earth who thunk up the adaptive optics to correct the mirror flaw.
Adventurers the astronauts may be, but not heroes.
Firefighters are heroes.
Don't forget the chainsaws.
Or the ants start eating sheep, spinning wool and launch their own winter clothing line.
I think you made his point.
Batman (1989): Tim Burton
Batman Returns (1992): Tim Burton
If you're into campy superhero stuff ala Batman & Robin, then yah, I can see how the original movie rocked.
Thank god for roads that don't suck. Cobblestones are hell on the ass...
A properly built codec will plug into existing content creation systems. Building Adobe Premiere for this codec would be a waste of time. Other people have done it better already.
The only way that an inbound google would get rejected (when requested via outbound client query) would be if you weren't running a stateful firewall, but a dumbass packet filter. Since ipfw/iptables is stateful, the problem doesn't occur.
Are you serious? You let spoofed packets into your network from "out there"? Dude, spoofed packets have had solutions for years. I suggest you do a little reading and learn a little about firewalling.
I'm sorry, but how is adding an incoming port block on a firewall going to prevent using google? Serving up a quake server, maybe, but outgoing surfing and the like sure isn't going to stop him.
And if it's IP based, there's a whole lotta IP addresses in the world... methinks he'll run out of kernel memory long before he's finished blocking them all.
Maybe because it's more expensive to ship cargo from China to the UK than to the US? Could that be it?
Don't forget to take off first. That's important.
When I was a kid, 10, or 12 not really sure, I got introduced to the realities of firearms. A big production was made about rounding up all the dogs and putting the horses away. Then the gun was retrieved from the closet. Climbed to the cupola. Then Pepe disappeared for 20 minutes and came back with .22 ammo. Then we shot 10, 20 rounds into 2x4's. It was a demonstration that is permanently etched into my memory. I remember little from those years, but I will always remember the size of the little .22 hole going in, and the giant divet taken out of the back of the 2x4.
90% of Americans (I'd gather) have never touched a gun, nor seen what they can do other than movies, Real Police Videos, and Discovery Channel documentaries.
They have no respect for the power of firearms, nor for the immense peace that firing weapons can bring to the soul, knowing that you can wield the power to take a life, yet be respectful enough not to. They are afraid. They are far removed from the people the Framers represented. They don't have to hunt for food. They don't huddle in shacks burning wet wood and wearing dirty clothes eating maggoty bread and facing constant Indian attack.
No, they go to PTA meetings, bitch about the price of water service to the house, and zoning variances about how far from the sidewalk they can plant flowerbeds, or go on a rampage and destroy some kid's treehouse because of an unreasonable fear that their own property value is somehow diminshed.
That is the reality of America today. And it sickens me.
I hate to say it, but if it comes down to a revolution, a concealed weapon is all that allows a revolutionary the ability to perform certain missions. You can't conceal a long gun.
I agree with you, to a point. If you could guarantee that criminals wouldn't have handguns, I'd agree with you even more. If you could guarantee that criminals wouldn't have knives and bats and sticks and tire irons, I'd agree even more. If you could guarantee that criminals wouldn't rape and kill a young woman out for a morning jog, I'd agree with you 100%.
But you cannot guarantee that, so a handgun is the perfect answer in a no so perfect world, if the user so chooses to become trained and armed.