I not sure who to blame, but every time I go to/. in Firefox 3.5 on Ubuntu, it hangs/greys out the screen for a good 20-30 seconds and maxes out the CPU. Granted, it's an old crappy laptop (Dell Inspiron 600m), but I don't remember those problems when I had XP, and it works acceptably in Chromium's nightly builds. Basically, FF dies on Linux for a minute or so on any page that is heavy in JS or had embedded Flash videos. Sigh....
What will it look like in Linux? Thats what I want to know.
Just based on my experience, it will probably continue to look like ass. I actually *like* the FF icon styles they introduced for WinXP in FF 3.0, and hated that in Ubuntu FF looked like crap because it adopted whatever theme's style you had installed. It's 2009 - why do I still have to have big SQUARE buttons, with all of them looking like crap?
Doesn't matter. That doesn't excuse whomever TOOK the loan. I know how much money I make. I [should] know how much money I can spend out of my budget. Before I sign that dotted line, it's ultimately up to me and me alone to know what my monthly financial obligation will be, to know that in 3 years instead of the cushy rate I'm getting now I'll be on the hook for 3x that amount, and anything else. I need to be personally responsible, and know my own limits, regardless of what anyone else tells me. It's as simple as that.
I don't know if I agree with your definition of blame.. By the same logic you can't blame the bankers who ruined the world economy because it was in their best interests to make as much money as they could while they could. It's a slippery slope.
I don't blame the bankers, at least not for that reason. The economics are simple - everyone will work in their own self interest. They aren't wrong for wanting to make as much money as they could while they could; at blame are anyone who weighed risks and benefits, ignored the risks, and then got burned by them. No more, no less.
Interesting, I wasn't aware that there were home routers that did this! I'll have to check it out...do any of the 3rd party Linksys firmwares do this, or any stock routers? It was the 6to4 tunneling that always seemed to be a PITA when I've looked into it before; having it all taken care of at the router level sounds awesome.
Sure, your local machines might be using it, but then what? Do any of the major ISPs use IPv6? What about the *stock* routers/modems/etc. that people have in their homes? I'm pretty sure my local cable co (not Comcast even) isn't assigning me IPv6 address(es), even if my home computers might be able to use it.
I was going to write the exact same thing. Android hasn't taken off yet because it's available on....T-Mobile, and that's it. WTF is with "iPhone cometitors" and their picking the shitty carriers? T-Mobile and Sprint are the carriers for the only phones that really have a chance so far to compete? I can't think of anyone in this area that has TMo, and Sprint's coverage sucks. If someone's getting a phone around here, it's either AT&T or Verizon, and I'm in the VZW camp.
FWIW, I think Android *is* poised to start making some noise. It looks like Verizon is finally starting to line things up; a flagship Motorola Android phone, the BB Storm 2 later this year, and the Palm Pre sometime next year. Honestly, the iPhone is the only thing keeping AT&T afloat; as soon as Verizon offers some real alternatives, we'll see some crazy shit.
Can we ban all convicted felons from the Internet? Where's the interactive maps/lists/databases of those who've committed fraud, DUIs, murder, speeding, etc etc. Stupid handwaving and mindless sheep....blah.
Wait - they can't figure out who the guy is in meatspace based on Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and blogs, but have the ability to take down a number of the world's largest websites? Sites that are designed for massive usage?
I mean, *I* have accounts on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and I think an old Blogger one somewhere. I'm sure Livejournal was just a coincidence. Internet narcissism much? Half the Internet goes down, and it's because of a targeted attack because one person posts/has accounts on those services? Like mentioned above, it'd be easier just to send some thugs to rough him up.
But the "local" newspaper sites are all run by Gannett, which is a national company. And all of their paper sites have the same craptastic look and feel and obnoxious ads. Money doesn't buy online sensibilities, it should be common sense to the 'tards building the sites in the first place.
Ironically, I find the local newspaper websites to be the worst. For example, lansingstatejournal.com. When viewing it unblocked (Chrome for instance) it is awful - huge graphics and flash ads dwarfing the content. I actually blame Gannett and whatever yahoos they went with to produce their content. On the other hand, I find mlive.com to present their news nicely.
IMHO that's usually better than staring at a blank screen prompt not even knowing what command you're even looking for, let alone what options you need to actually use it.
I completely agree. I switched full-time to Ubuntu just over a year ago, and for the most part, it rocks. But whenever something *doesn't* work, my google searches and subsequent troubleshooting always end up at the CLI. Just off the top of my head, in recent memory I've had to use the CLI to:
*install and update Firefox 3.5 while 3.0 is still the "default" installed browser *link my adobe flash player plugin so Opera and Firefox 3.5 would all use the same flash version. Why can't I just install flash, and have everything automatically use that version? *troubleshoot why my sound suddenly stopped working *try and get svnserve running so I could connect from another computer in the house *install the PPA keys from some projects; I think I could do this via the GUI but the instructions I found used the command line, and it isn't really clear on what I'd need to do otherwise
But why couldn't you download the source, compile it, sign up yourself to be able to submit apps to the app store, submit your own version, and charge nothing for it? That's the whole point, no?
Hadn't thought of it that way yet, but hellz yes! The possibility to get rid of Exchange/Outlook for the email mess that is 90% of its usage would be great. Can Wave do scheduling/task management? If so, then *finally*, we may have an Exchange/Outlook killer...
I realize that, but I guess my point is that I only want to be on the bleeding edge / latest release for a few select programs. I don't want *all* testing releases in the repo, I just want the select few that I use regularly. Why should I be able to use the latest Firefox (3.5 or nightly or beta or whathave you) on Windows, heck I can use it on Ubuntu without a problem, I just have to jump through a ton of hoops, or I have to wait 6 months until the next distro release? IME, there's been relatively little pain in using released stable versions of software, no matter the OS. Nightlies, sure, sometimes they break...but if it's a stable release, why should we have to wait to use it?
Maybe it's because I'm coming from the Windows world, but since I started using Ubuntu full-time for a year now, the package management and method of keeping software update has been one of my biggest complaints.
Don't get me wrong, I *do* like the general idea of package management. It is nice to have the OS take care of keeping everything up to date, and having it Just Work. But there are a handful of software I use every day, (Firefox, Filezilla, Pidgin, Deluge come to mind) that I want to always have the latest released version - and on Ubuntu that is a pain in the ass. Sure, sometimes I can go straight to the website, and there may be a.deb file I can install. Getdeb may work, too, but I've had mixed luck with that. Lots of apps have update-checkers built in, but they don't work unless I run the app as superuser. Most of these apps that I use regularly are point releases behind in the repos, and so I'm stuck having to manually muck around with things, or settle with using old software at home when I'm on the newest release at work in Windows.
I don't want to have to compile from source. I don't want to have to periodically run the app as sudo so I can run the included auto-update feature. It's brain dead easy on Windows to try beta software, and uninstall it if it breaks something. What am I missing on Linux?
Wait, what? Apple engages the user community to develop they're products? Are you sure they don't limit the featureset, tell the users what they want, spend $$ on marketing, and then watch the bank roll in while everyone covets the "new" old product?
I agree, OSS should take a page from Apple's UI and design philosophy. But I don't think involving every Tom, Dick, and Harry to offer input (although, that is necessary, too, I think) and hold the same weight works at the same time.
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Yes, artificially restricting usage instead of building infrastructure to support the full function of a device is a *much* better plan.
Good luck getting that approved and into the store!
I not sure who to blame, but every time I go to /. in Firefox 3.5 on Ubuntu, it hangs/greys out the screen for a good 20-30 seconds and maxes out the CPU. Granted, it's an old crappy laptop (Dell Inspiron 600m), but I don't remember those problems when I had XP, and it works acceptably in Chromium's nightly builds. Basically, FF dies on Linux for a minute or so on any page that is heavy in JS or had embedded Flash videos. Sigh....
What will it look like in Linux? Thats what I want to know.
Just based on my experience, it will probably continue to look like ass. I actually *like* the FF icon styles they introduced for WinXP in FF 3.0, and hated that in Ubuntu FF looked like crap because it adopted whatever theme's style you had installed. It's 2009 - why do I still have to have big SQUARE buttons, with all of them looking like crap?
Doesn't matter. That doesn't excuse whomever TOOK the loan. I know how much money I make. I [should] know how much money I can spend out of my budget. Before I sign that dotted line, it's ultimately up to me and me alone to know what my monthly financial obligation will be, to know that in 3 years instead of the cushy rate I'm getting now I'll be on the hook for 3x that amount, and anything else. I need to be personally responsible, and know my own limits, regardless of what anyone else tells me. It's as simple as that.
I don't know if I agree with your definition of blame.. By the same logic you can't blame the bankers who ruined the world economy because it was in their best interests to make as much money as they could while they could. It's a slippery slope.
I don't blame the bankers, at least not for that reason. The economics are simple - everyone will work in their own self interest. They aren't wrong for wanting to make as much money as they could while they could; at blame are anyone who weighed risks and benefits, ignored the risks, and then got burned by them. No more, no less.
Interesting, I wasn't aware that there were home routers that did this! I'll have to check it out...do any of the 3rd party Linksys firmwares do this, or any stock routers? It was the 6to4 tunneling that always seemed to be a PITA when I've looked into it before; having it all taken care of at the router level sounds awesome.
Sure, your local machines might be using it, but then what? Do any of the major ISPs use IPv6? What about the *stock* routers/modems/etc. that people have in their homes? I'm pretty sure my local cable co (not Comcast even) isn't assigning me IPv6 address(es), even if my home computers might be able to use it.
I was going to write the exact same thing. Android hasn't taken off yet because it's available on....T-Mobile, and that's it. WTF is with "iPhone cometitors" and their picking the shitty carriers? T-Mobile and Sprint are the carriers for the only phones that really have a chance so far to compete? I can't think of anyone in this area that has TMo, and Sprint's coverage sucks. If someone's getting a phone around here, it's either AT&T or Verizon, and I'm in the VZW camp.
FWIW, I think Android *is* poised to start making some noise. It looks like Verizon is finally starting to line things up; a flagship Motorola Android phone, the BB Storm 2 later this year, and the Palm Pre sometime next year. Honestly, the iPhone is the only thing keeping AT&T afloat; as soon as Verizon offers some real alternatives, we'll see some crazy shit.
Soooo...when's it coming to Verizon?
So you can rape people at gunpoint through the Internets these days, huh? Is that some of that newfangled teledildonics I've been hearing about?
Can we ban all convicted felons from the Internet? Where's the interactive maps/lists/databases of those who've committed fraud, DUIs, murder, speeding, etc etc. Stupid handwaving and mindless sheep....blah.
How the fuck did this get published?
I imagine they hit "Reply to This", typed in a reply, hit "Preview", then "Submit".
Wait - they can't figure out who the guy is in meatspace based on Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and blogs, but have the ability to take down a number of the world's largest websites? Sites that are designed for massive usage?
I mean, *I* have accounts on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and I think an old Blogger one somewhere. I'm sure Livejournal was just a coincidence. Internet narcissism much? Half the Internet goes down, and it's because of a targeted attack because one person posts/has accounts on those services? Like mentioned above, it'd be easier just to send some thugs to rough him up.
But the "local" newspaper sites are all run by Gannett, which is a national company. And all of their paper sites have the same craptastic look and feel and obnoxious ads. Money doesn't buy online sensibilities, it should be common sense to the 'tards building the sites in the first place.
Ironically, I find the local newspaper websites to be the worst. For example, lansingstatejournal.com. When viewing it unblocked (Chrome for instance) it is awful - huge graphics and flash ads dwarfing the content. I actually blame Gannett and whatever yahoos they went with to produce their content. On the other hand, I find mlive.com to present their news nicely.
IMHO that's usually better than staring at a blank screen prompt not even knowing what command you're even looking for, let alone what options you need to actually use it.
I completely agree. I switched full-time to Ubuntu just over a year ago, and for the most part, it rocks. But whenever something *doesn't* work, my google searches and subsequent troubleshooting always end up at the CLI. Just off the top of my head, in recent memory I've had to use the CLI to:
*install and update Firefox 3.5 while 3.0 is still the "default" installed browser
*link my adobe flash player plugin so Opera and Firefox 3.5 would all use the same flash version. Why can't I just install flash, and have everything automatically use that version?
*troubleshoot why my sound suddenly stopped working
*try and get svnserve running so I could connect from another computer in the house
*install the PPA keys from some projects; I think I could do this via the GUI but the instructions I found used the command line, and it isn't really clear on what I'd need to do otherwise
So you don't send or receive email from anywhere then?
But why couldn't you download the source, compile it, sign up yourself to be able to submit apps to the app store, submit your own version, and charge nothing for it? That's the whole point, no?
Hadn't thought of it that way yet, but hellz yes! The possibility to get rid of Exchange/Outlook for the email mess that is 90% of its usage would be great. Can Wave do scheduling/task management? If so, then *finally*, we may have an Exchange/Outlook killer...
I realize that, but I guess my point is that I only want to be on the bleeding edge / latest release for a few select programs. I don't want *all* testing releases in the repo, I just want the select few that I use regularly. Why should I be able to use the latest Firefox (3.5 or nightly or beta or whathave you) on Windows, heck I can use it on Ubuntu without a problem, I just have to jump through a ton of hoops, or I have to wait 6 months until the next distro release? IME, there's been relatively little pain in using released stable versions of software, no matter the OS. Nightlies, sure, sometimes they break...but if it's a stable release, why should we have to wait to use it?
Maybe it's because I'm coming from the Windows world, but since I started using Ubuntu full-time for a year now, the package management and method of keeping software update has been one of my biggest complaints.
.deb file I can install. Getdeb may work, too, but I've had mixed luck with that. Lots of apps have update-checkers built in, but they don't work unless I run the app as superuser. Most of these apps that I use regularly are point releases behind in the repos, and so I'm stuck having to manually muck around with things, or settle with using old software at home when I'm on the newest release at work in Windows.
Don't get me wrong, I *do* like the general idea of package management. It is nice to have the OS take care of keeping everything up to date, and having it Just Work. But there are a handful of software I use every day, (Firefox, Filezilla, Pidgin, Deluge come to mind) that I want to always have the latest released version - and on Ubuntu that is a pain in the ass. Sure, sometimes I can go straight to the website, and there may be a
I don't want to have to compile from source. I don't want to have to periodically run the app as sudo so I can run the included auto-update feature. It's brain dead easy on Windows to try beta software, and uninstall it if it breaks something. What am I missing on Linux?
Wait, what? Apple engages the user community to develop they're products? Are you sure they don't limit the featureset, tell the users what they want, spend $$ on marketing, and then watch the bank roll in while everyone covets the "new" old product?
I agree, OSS should take a page from Apple's UI and design philosophy. But I don't think involving every Tom, Dick, and Harry to offer input (although, that is necessary, too, I think) and hold the same weight works at the same time.