Yes, Google has more *paper* value goes... Google is larger than than any of those you mention. If I had the time to check on it, I'd tell you that they have more, again, paper value than then companies you mentioned, totaled.
GOOG is, by far, the largest media company in the US. More than likely (and I'm only *not* saying it cause I don't want to get modded-dow), the largest media company in the world.
That's when it comes to paper stock value. But it translates in a real way too. Take these three news orgs, CBS, FOX, CNN, and ABC. Compare the number of people who visited their TV channels today compaired to the number of people who visited Google today. Not only is Google more valuable on paper, but Google gets more visitors. The visitors also get more value.
And to boot, they got a tv channel that *doesn't suck*. FOX, CBS, ABC, and maybe even CNN can't make that claim.
Ok, now I *know* I'm going to get modded-down. Truth hurts. So does most TV. Watch 127. It has to be cool, if only because they are on 127.
I know that the post is talking about a google pvr, but when I first read the headline, I though they were talking about Current, which is on channel 127 of my dial.
Very cool anyway, though I'm sure I'll get modded off topic.
They show pods. Nothing over 7 mins. And google zeitgeist or google news every 30 mins. It's hip. They are the bigest media company in the US. You think they would have a tv station. And a pvr to boot.
Because people familar with the system, durning my Junior year there, told me that's how it works. It was the professor that, without giving out his ID, it was a professor that I though would have direct knowledge.
It seems that if they used sequential numbers, they could've done that from the start.
It seems that a reason for generating them from SSN's would so that everyone in every school would have unique ID's. And, if they ever had to reconstruct that data, it would be easy.
If you have all these databases, different ones in different depts, each with SSN's in them, and you want to make them all Banner Id's, then you would want to have some algo that would take one number and pop out the other.
Well, after some work online, I found some stuff of interest.
This Excell sheet shows every data field in the banner system an MU, and (well the new alum system they are building, but it shows which ones relate)this powerpoint slide show gives some insight. The PIDM seems to be the number that is generated from the SSN. A quote from the slide show is "When an institution has a student originally built in DARS, and also existing in Banner, the institution can write a script to populate the PIDM in stu_master," and I guess that is what my professor was talking about. I think that PIDM might be your plus id, or banner id, but who knows...
The person in the registrars office might be correct, but some ID is generated by the SSN to tie the two togeather. My source knew all the right people to have the information that I gave on here, but oh, how the stories will change. Anyway, I was able to find way to much info on the Miami websites.
People should realize that when the put something in the www or htdocs folder, that it will be public.
Anyway, from TFA, it wasn't "Biz Kidzzzzz" who exposed the data, but a now-retired professor in the Business Department.
That was slang to a point. It's a juvenile act to be so irresponsible with important data. The problem seems to be a big one.
The incompetence resides in Miami's IT for letting people who shouldn't be expected to be overly technical have that much ability to expose critical information.
You may not realize it, but every student and professor has many ways they can post data to the Internet. You must be a first year SAN student if you haven't figured out that you get a public web drive on your 'M' dirve. It's the one labeled 'www,' incase you have trouble finding it. This link will set it up for you. You also have the Unixgen server that you can use. So, are you saying that, at a university, where everyone get access to powerful tools, that professors should be restricted from using them?
Q: You know what we call first year SAN or CSA students?
A: Pre-business Majors!
You say, "Note the 'retired faculty member'. Not a student or a hacker."
Is that retired as in the way that former FEMA director Michael Brown is now retired? I don't think he retired. I think he was fired. And, if I had to guess, when the person at Miami was holding all those SSN's, I hope he was on the pay roll. Retired today? What about yesterday?
I'm a CSA grad, and I dig that department. It's in the school of engineering and applied sciences.
My jab was at the management in information dept, inside the business school. They are the ones responsible for this. That's a different dept, different building, and a different school than the school of engineering. A building that I only took one class in. My jab was aimed at the slashdot post like this the one that says More Students Prefer Interdisciplinary to CS. Those students should not be hired to do technical work. Those professors should not be given computers to host sensitive info on. I think if you are dealing with peoples SSN's on live-and-networked computers, then it should be should be an engineer, not a business, professional that is handling the info. If you want someone to do serious work with computers, then don't hire someone from the business department.
Yep, and they switched way before 2002, but they still took students SSN's. In fact, the Banner ID's are generated from peoples SSN's. If that file had both SSN's and Banner ID's, then everyones SSN's could be at risk. The Banner ID's are used for everything. If you have 21,000 SSN's and 21,000 Banner ID's, then you (ok maybe not you, but I) can easily figure out the algo that is used to generate them. Or, if you have a job as a student working at the lab that does the schools web system, you may have access to that algo. Anyway, once you have the alog, you can find the Banner ID's any and every where. Put two and two togeather, and you know what happens.
I'm a grad from MU's CSA program, and I'm not very happy right now.
I blame the MIS students!!! Biz-kids think they can run a computer...
And yeah, the docs included my ssn...
I'm glad Bush passed that Bankruptcy reform
What happens when everyones id is stolen. Really fuck the econ, aye, you know, if you can't trust anyone id...
TFA
****
Dear Miami graduate student,
Miami University notified all members of the University community today
that a report containing the names, grades, and social security numbers of
all students who were enrolled at Miami in Fall 2002 was inadvertently
placed in a file accessible through the Internet. At this point we have
no evidence of illegal use of this information, but we are concerned and
deeply regret that because of this action private and confidential student
information was exposed.
You will find below the press release we have sent out that will give you
more information about this incident.
I want to repeat that this affects only students attending Miami in Fall
2002. There is no threat to current students who were not on campus in
Fall 2002. If you were on campus in Fall 2002, you will receive by early
next week from Reid Christenberry, vice president for information
technology, an email message providing you with a toll-free phone number,
which will be staffed by trained investigators who are experienced in
dealing with privacy issues. Later you will receive similar, written
notification from Miami with the toll-free phone number and additional
information about actions you can take if you are concerned about
possible identity theft.
If you were on campus in Fall 2002 and do not receive an email early next
week, please let us know by emailing us at
mailto:privacyhelp@muohio.edu>privacyhelp@muohio.e du
Again, we deeply regret that this information was made accessible. We
will keep you informed of the actions we are taking to protect current
students and alumni.
Richard Nault
Vice President for Student Affairs
14 September
2005
MIAMI NOTIFYING STUDENTS, ALUMNI OF PRIVACY BREACH
OXFORD, Ohio - Miami University is notifying all students who
attended Miami during the fall 2002 semester that a report containing
their names, Social Security numbers and grades had been inadvertently
placed in a file accessible through the Internet.
University officials said that at this point they have no evidence of
illegal use of the information, which included data on the 21,762 students
enrolled on all Miami campuses in fall 2002. No other students were
affected. Officials say the information was in an isolated area of the
university's network, in a file assigned to a now-retired faculty member,
and thus avoided detection until this week when an alumna told Miami she
had discovered the file after entering her name in a search engine.
"Nevertheless, private and confidential information was
exposed, and we deeply regret the incident. We have removed the file and
are writing the students and alumni to apologize. We also are taking
steps to rectify the problem and to avoid a similar instance in the
future," said J. Reid Christenberry, Miami's vice president for
information technology.
The university is writing a letter to all those affected, many
of whom have now graduated, directing them to a toll-free number that will
be staffed by trained investigators who are experienced in dealing with
privacy issues. Miami has established a web page,
www.muohio.edu/privacyhelp, with additional information. Individuals who
want to contact the university about the situation can use a special email
address, privacyhelp@muohio.edu, or call Miami at (513) 529-0438.
"We are doing all we can to reach those whose information was
included and to guide them through actions to reduce risk," said
Christenberry. The report was a standard grade
I may believe that computer science degrees are not found to be as attractive to Freshmen entering college anymore, but I do not believe the premise. That is, the reason for the decline of interest is not because of outsourcing or simplification.
My computer science degree gave me a wide range of potential. No classes in how to fix a computer when your hard drive crashes, but after finishing my computer architecture class, I believe I can build a computer out of spare parts from a junk yard. I know the ins and outs of how to build a very complex machine of a very basic principals. My AI class thought how to sort large amounts of information in an efficient manor. The class tough how to solve very complex puzzles in an efficient manner. MIS students at my school didn't take ether of those, and their heads would spin at the problems. Notice that MIS is thought out of the business school, when computer science is thought out of the engineering school.
Yeah, if you only want to know how to write PHP so you can keep a web site going, then a CS degree isn't for you. If your a business person who wants to write a sexy excel spread sheet, then maybe MIS is a good choice. If you want to become an engineer who will not shy away from any problem, then you might be a good candidate for a computer science program.
I thought the Bush people would've gone the other way on this one.
It seems more their style to want to require the speech that makes them uncomfortable to be placed under one top level domain, and then require software vendors to have a way to block access to those sites. You know, a forced v-chip for web browsers.
Then I could see them, the Bush people, wanting to go after companies like Google who show content from those sites that someones parent blocked.
Ofcourse, that can't happen right now, because of free speech and all, but a few more Supreme Court noms, and we could be well on the way...
1. Goto Boys - My Mac's Playin' Tricks On Me
2. Snoop Mod - It's a Moddy Moddy World
3. Notorious E.O.F. - Going Back to Cache
4. Sir Code-A-Lot - Baby's got BASIC
5. Cypress HTML - How I Could Just Reboot A Mac
6. BSD Boys - Fight For Your Rack
7. Public Encryption - Fight The Powersurge
8. Sugar Hill Game - Coders Delight
9. Grandmemory Flash & The File Allocation Table - The Message
10. Dr. DRM - The Cache
When dealing with content SPAM, I have found that if you can wait long enough to get valid whois info, you can get them to stop very easily by using free speech over brute force. Sometimes a combination is needed.
Of course, content SPAM is that Texas Hold em or Viagra ads that show up on your web site. They have to advertise for a valid domain name, or they are just vandalizing your site. If you can wait long enough to gather enough whois info, you can do some damage. Sometimes they change their whois info, so you need a service that stores older info. Sometimes they are spamming a site that is nothing more than a SPAM site, so you have to find the main site they are running.
Anyway, once you have some valid whois info, you write an open email to all the owners of all the sites promoted by one spammer. In that email, you include all the personal info you can get out of the whois. Of course they were hoping to get your site indexed with their SPAM links, so you forward your open message to your weblog or message board, including all the personal messages. Then, you do the brute force work via phone (VOIP works), snail mail, and email. If the open email and permanent posting of the spammers name (or the spammers bosses name) on your site doesn't work, a few hundred calls to their home/cell phone will.
Most non-compete agreements are not worth the paper they are written on. No judge will ever say that you can not take a job in your chosen field. The great thing about America is, if you don't where you are working, you can go work somewhere else. No judge will ever allow you to sign away your right to work in your field.
You may not be able to bring with you, inside knowledge of the company you used to work for; though, if you have a computer science degree, and you sign a non-compete a one computer company, and then quit to go work at another computer science job, no court of judge will stop you.
Knowing how to format a document is very important. It's good to know how to use even amounts of white-space, group like items, and differentiate unlike items. If you can do all that, and remember to use sans-serif (no strikes) fonts for headings, and serif (strikes) fonts for body text, then you just might make one sexy looking document.
None of that will help my coworkers. They need a reading class, followed by a book on how to construct a sentence.
The problem is when this info is used to generate a price.
So you don't know that John visited, but you do know that "User #5233258" visited three times and looked at the same item each time. He must be interested. Lets use that info to charge "User #5233258" 15% more on his fourth visit.
Oops, he didn't buy. Lets correlate that data and sale it to the government.
Oops, looks like the hackers already broke in, correlated the data, and sold it on ICR.
Man gets ecliptic seizure.
Seizure triggers feel-good electricty in brain.
Mans body likes feel-good electricty, and then the body stops the seizures.
Feel-good electricty stops
Man gets ecliptic seizure.
Seizure triggers feel-good electricty in brain.
Mans body likes feel-good electricty, and then the body stops the seizures.
Mans body learns that shaking causes feel-good juice.
Body shakes more.
Body feels good more.
Man starts to rage like he's on PCP.
Now, what could happen
Man gets depressed.
Depression triggers feel-good electricty in brain.
Mans body likes feel-good electricty, and then the body stops feeling bad.
Feel-good electricty stops
Man gets depressed.
Depression triggers feel-good electricty in brain.
Mans body likes feel-good electricty, and then the body stops feeling depressed.
Mans body learns that depression causes feel-good juice.
Man gets sad more.
Body feels good more.
Man starts to rage like he's bi-polor and on PCP.
Really, do they care? Google and Yahoo both work to *not* list SPAM sites... But, say a site has zero content on it, and the site is only ads, and the site is not listed in the search engines, but people still visit, click, and buy. Who cares?
Well, I'm a computer science grad, and a software man, but my school, Miami University, which has one of the oldest computer programs in the country (50+ years old), now has a Computer Engineering Program. Seems like a mix of computer science and electrical engineering.
Your best bet is to choose what you enjoy. That's what I did, and I'm happy at my post. If you try any engineering field, and you're not into it 100%, you will waste money, maybe fail out, and be miserable.
Slashdot Mirror
Are you sure? That they're bigger than CBS? FOX? CNN? ABC?
As far as $money$ goes, *yes*.
You like the BBC? Internet search phenomenon Google has overtaken a swathe of venerable rivals to become the world's biggest media company by stock market value.
Absolutely sure?
*Yes*
Yes, Google has more *paper* value goes... Google is larger than than any of those you mention. If I had the time to check on it, I'd tell you that they have more, again, paper value than then companies you mentioned, totaled.
GOOG is, by far, the largest media company in the US. More than likely (and I'm only *not* saying it cause I don't want to get modded-dow), the largest media company in the world.
That's when it comes to paper stock value. But it translates in a real way too. Take these three news orgs, CBS, FOX, CNN, and ABC. Compare the number of people who visited their TV channels today compaired to the number of people who visited Google today. Not only is Google more valuable on paper, but Google gets more visitors. The visitors also get more value.
And to boot, they got a tv channel that *doesn't suck*. FOX, CBS, ABC, and maybe even CNN can't make that claim.
Ok, now I *know* I'm going to get modded-down. Truth hurts. So does most TV. Watch 127. It has to be cool, if only because they are on 127.
I know that the post is talking about a google pvr, but when I first read the headline, I though they were talking about Current, which is on channel 127 of my dial.
Very cool anyway, though I'm sure I'll get modded off topic.
They show pods. Nothing over 7 mins. And google zeitgeist or google news every 30 mins. It's hip. They are the bigest media company in the US. You think they would have a tv station. And a pvr to boot.
googlebank.com
Do you mean bank.google.com?
Why would you think that?
Because people familar with the system, durning my Junior year there, told me that's how it works. It was the professor that, without giving out his ID, it was a professor that I though would have direct knowledge.
It seems that if they used sequential numbers, they could've done that from the start.
It seems that a reason for generating them from SSN's would so that everyone in every school would have unique ID's. And, if they ever had to reconstruct that data, it would be easy.
If you have all these databases, different ones in different depts, each with SSN's in them, and you want to make them all Banner Id's, then you would want to have some algo that would take one number and pop out the other.
Well, after some work online, I found some stuff of interest.
This Excell sheet shows every data field in the banner system an MU, and (well the new alum system they are building, but it shows which ones relate)this powerpoint slide show gives some insight. The PIDM seems to be the number that is generated from the SSN. A quote from the slide show is "When an institution has a student originally built in DARS, and also existing in Banner, the institution can write a script to populate the PIDM in stu_master," and I guess that is what my professor was talking about. I think that PIDM might be your plus id, or banner id, but who knows...
The person in the registrars office might be correct, but some ID is generated by the SSN to tie the two togeather. My source knew all the right people to have the information that I gave on here, but oh, how the stories will change. Anyway, I was able to find way to much info on the Miami websites.
People should realize that when the put something in the www or htdocs folder, that it will be public.
Anyway, from TFA, it wasn't "Biz Kidzzzzz" who exposed the data, but a now-retired professor in the Business Department.
That was slang to a point. It's a juvenile act to be so irresponsible with important data. The problem seems to be a big one.
The incompetence resides in Miami's IT for letting people who shouldn't be expected to be overly technical have that much ability to expose critical information.
You may not realize it, but every student and professor has many ways they can post data to the Internet. You must be a first year SAN student if you haven't figured out that you get a public web drive on your 'M' dirve. It's the one labeled 'www,' incase you have trouble finding it. This link will set it up for you. You also have the Unixgen server that you can use. So, are you saying that, at a university, where everyone get access to powerful tools, that professors should be restricted from using them?
Q: You know what we call first year SAN or CSA students?
A: Pre-business Majors!
Good luck on your degree.
It's the 66th best school in the nation. That is the 23ed best public school in the nation. And, no, the parties there suck.
You say, "Note the 'retired faculty member'. Not a student or a hacker."
Is that retired as in the way that former FEMA director Michael Brown is now retired? I don't think he retired. I think he was fired. And, if I had to guess, when the person at Miami was holding all those SSN's, I hope he was on the pay roll. Retired today? What about yesterday?
I'm a CSA grad, and I dig that department. It's in the school of engineering and applied sciences.
My jab was at the management in information dept, inside the business school. They are the ones responsible for this. That's a different dept, different building, and a different school than the school of engineering. A building that I only took one class in. My jab was aimed at the slashdot post like this the one that says More Students Prefer Interdisciplinary to CS. Those students should not be hired to do technical work. Those professors should not be given computers to host sensitive info on. I think if you are dealing with peoples SSN's on live-and-networked computers, then it should be should be an engineer, not a business, professional that is handling the info. If you want someone to do serious work with computers, then don't hire someone from the business department.
Yep, and they switched way before 2002, but they still took students SSN's. In fact, the Banner ID's are generated from peoples SSN's. If that file had both SSN's and Banner ID's, then everyones SSN's could be at risk. The Banner ID's are used for everything. If you have 21,000 SSN's and 21,000 Banner ID's, then you (ok maybe not you, but I) can easily figure out the algo that is used to generate them. Or, if you have a job as a student working at the lab that does the schools web system, you may have access to that algo. Anyway, once you have the alog, you can find the Banner ID's any and every where. Put two and two togeather, and you know what happens.
One of the best stations in the country...
Give it a listen.
The staion go bought out, so they only 'cast on the web, but it rocks!
WOXY
Oxford, Cincinnati, Dayton, the world...
The Future of Rock & Roll!
Yeah, well what were the permissions on that file
chmod 777 ssnFile
I think it was a clown from the Miami area in Ohio who liked the name so much that when he founded the town in FLA, he named it Miami.
I'm a grad from MU's CSA program, and I'm not very happy right now.
I blame the MIS students!!! Biz-kids think they can run a computer...
And yeah, the docs included my ssn...
I'm glad Bush passed that Bankruptcy reform
What happens when everyones id is stolen. Really fuck the econ, aye, you know, if you can't trust anyone id...
TFA
****
Dear Miami graduate student,
Miami University notified all members of the University community today that a report containing the names, grades, and social security numbers of all students who were enrolled at Miami in Fall 2002 was inadvertently placed in a file accessible through the Internet. At this point we have no evidence of illegal use of this information, but we are concerned and deeply regret that because of this action private and confidential student information was exposed.
You will find below the press release we have sent out that will give you more information about this incident.
I want to repeat that this affects only students attending Miami in Fall 2002. There is no threat to current students who were not on campus in Fall 2002. If you were on campus in Fall 2002, you will receive by early next week from Reid Christenberry, vice president for information technology, an email message providing you with a toll-free phone number, which will be staffed by trained investigators who are experienced in dealing with privacy issues. Later you will receive similar, written notification from Miami with the toll-free phone number and additional information about actions you can take if you are concerned about possible identity theft.
If you were on campus in Fall 2002 and do not receive an email early next week, please let us know by emailing us at mailto:privacyhelp@muohio.edu>privacyhelp@muohio.e du
Again, we deeply regret that this information was made accessible. We will keep you informed of the actions we are taking to protect current students and alumni.
Richard Nault
Vice President for Student Affairs
14 September 2005
MIAMI NOTIFYING STUDENTS, ALUMNI OF PRIVACY BREACH
OXFORD, Ohio - Miami University is notifying all students who attended Miami during the fall 2002 semester that a report containing their names, Social Security numbers and grades had been inadvertently placed in a file accessible through the Internet. University officials said that at this point they have no evidence of illegal use of the information, which included data on the 21,762 students enrolled on all Miami campuses in fall 2002. No other students were affected. Officials say the information was in an isolated area of the university's network, in a file assigned to a now-retired faculty member, and thus avoided detection until this week when an alumna told Miami she had discovered the file after entering her name in a search engine.
"Nevertheless, private and confidential information was exposed, and we deeply regret the incident. We have removed the file and are writing the students and alumni to apologize. We also are taking steps to rectify the problem and to avoid a similar instance in the future," said J. Reid Christenberry, Miami's vice president for information technology.
The university is writing a letter to all those affected, many of whom have now graduated, directing them to a toll-free number that will be staffed by trained investigators who are experienced in dealing with privacy issues. Miami has established a web page, www.muohio.edu/privacyhelp, with additional information. Individuals who want to contact the university about the situation can use a special email address, privacyhelp@muohio.edu, or call Miami at (513) 529-0438.
"We are doing all we can to reach those whose information was included and to guide them through actions to reduce risk," said Christenberry. The report was a standard grade
I may believe that computer science degrees are not found to be as attractive to Freshmen entering college anymore, but I do not believe the premise. That is, the reason for the decline of interest is not because of outsourcing or simplification.
My computer science degree gave me a wide range of potential. No classes in how to fix a computer when your hard drive crashes, but after finishing my computer architecture class, I believe I can build a computer out of spare parts from a junk yard. I know the ins and outs of how to build a very complex machine of a very basic principals. My AI class thought how to sort large amounts of information in an efficient manor. The class tough how to solve very complex puzzles in an efficient manner. MIS students at my school didn't take ether of those, and their heads would spin at the problems. Notice that MIS is thought out of the business school, when computer science is thought out of the engineering school.
Yeah, if you only want to know how to write PHP so you can keep a web site going, then a CS degree isn't for you. If your a business person who wants to write a sexy excel spread sheet, then maybe MIS is a good choice. If you want to become an engineer who will not shy away from any problem, then you might be a good candidate for a computer science program.
I thought the Bush people would've gone the other way on this one.
It seems more their style to want to require the speech that makes them uncomfortable to be placed under one top level domain, and then require software vendors to have a way to block access to those sites. You know, a forced v-chip for web browsers.
Then I could see them, the Bush people, wanting to go after companies like Google who show content from those sites that someones parent blocked.
Ofcourse, that can't happen right now, because of free speech and all, but a few more Supreme Court noms, and we could be well on the way...
So, there's no new art on a tag like the one below?
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Transformers Rock
Top 10 Nerdcore Songs of All Time
1. Goto Boys - My Mac's Playin' Tricks On Me
2. Snoop Mod - It's a Moddy Moddy World
3. Notorious E.O.F. - Going Back to Cache
4. Sir Code-A-Lot - Baby's got BASIC
5. Cypress HTML - How I Could Just Reboot A Mac
6. BSD Boys - Fight For Your Rack
7. Public Encryption - Fight The Powersurge
8. Sugar Hill Game - Coders Delight
9. Grandmemory Flash & The File Allocation Table - The Message
10. Dr. DRM - The Cache
If you really want a bug to be fixed...
Post the details of the vaunrability on Slashdot. That's the one way to get the company responsible for the flawed code to fix it, fast.
When dealing with content SPAM, I have found that if you can wait long enough to get valid whois info, you can get them to stop very easily by using free speech over brute force. Sometimes a combination is needed.
Of course, content SPAM is that Texas Hold em or Viagra ads that show up on your web site. They have to advertise for a valid domain name, or they are just vandalizing your site. If you can wait long enough to gather enough whois info, you can do some damage. Sometimes they change their whois info, so you need a service that stores older info. Sometimes they are spamming a site that is nothing more than a SPAM site, so you have to find the main site they are running.
Anyway, once you have some valid whois info, you write an open email to all the owners of all the sites promoted by one spammer. In that email, you include all the personal info you can get out of the whois. Of course they were hoping to get your site indexed with their SPAM links, so you forward your open message to your weblog or message board, including all the personal messages. Then, you do the brute force work via phone (VOIP works), snail mail, and email. If the open email and permanent posting of the spammers name (or the spammers bosses name) on your site doesn't work, a few hundred calls to their home/cell phone will.
Most non-compete agreements are not worth the paper they are written on. No judge will ever say that you can not take a job in your chosen field. The great thing about America is, if you don't where you are working, you can go work somewhere else. No judge will ever allow you to sign away your right to work in your field.
You may not be able to bring with you, inside knowledge of the company you used to work for; though, if you have a computer science degree, and you sign a non-compete a one computer company, and then quit to go work at another computer science job, no court of judge will stop you.
Knowing how to format a document is very important. It's good to know how to use even amounts of white-space, group like items, and differentiate unlike items. If you can do all that, and remember to use sans-serif (no strikes) fonts for headings, and serif (strikes) fonts for body text, then you just might make one sexy looking document.
None of that will help my coworkers. They need a reading class, followed by a book on how to construct a sentence.
The problem is when this info is used to generate a price.
So you don't know that John visited, but you do know that "User #5233258" visited three times and looked at the same item each time. He must be interested. Lets use that info to charge "User #5233258" 15% more on his fourth visit.
Oops, he didn't buy. Lets correlate that data and sale it to the government.
Oops, looks like the hackers already broke in, correlated the data, and sold it on ICR.
Man gets ecliptic seizure.
Seizure triggers feel-good electricty in brain.
Mans body likes feel-good electricty, and then the body stops the seizures.
Feel-good electricty stops
Man gets ecliptic seizure.
Seizure triggers feel-good electricty in brain.
Mans body likes feel-good electricty, and then the body stops the seizures.
Mans body learns that shaking causes feel-good juice.
Body shakes more.
Body feels good more.
Man starts to rage like he's on PCP.
Now, what could happen
Man gets depressed.
Depression triggers feel-good electricty in brain.
Mans body likes feel-good electricty, and then the body stops feeling bad.
Feel-good electricty stops
Man gets depressed.
Depression triggers feel-good electricty in brain.
Mans body likes feel-good electricty, and then the body stops feeling depressed.
Mans body learns that depression causes feel-good juice.
Man gets sad more.
Body feels good more.
Man starts to rage like he's bi-polor and on PCP.
Really, do they care? Google and Yahoo both work to *not* list SPAM sites... But, say a site has zero content on it, and the site is only ads, and the site is not listed in the search engines, but people still visit, click, and buy. Who cares?
Well, I'm a computer science grad, and a software man, but my school, Miami University, which has one of the oldest computer programs in the country (50+ years old), now has a Computer Engineering Program. Seems like a mix of computer science and electrical engineering.
Your best bet is to choose what you enjoy. That's what I did, and I'm happy at my post. If you try any engineering field, and you're not into it 100%, you will waste money, maybe fail out, and be miserable.
Good Luck.