Right, but if everything works with the previous driver, wouldn't it be safe to assume that the old driver would be calling the same APIs? I honestly have no idea, that's just what seems logical to me.
Really? Are you sure? The iPhone is the only mobile phone that requires any and all legitimately purchased software installations to go through a single point of origin. There is no comparison to Symbian, RIM, Linux or Palm. Every other mobile OS has the legitimate option to install applications without 'phoning home' to their respective manufacturer.
It simply amazes me that so many people in the slashdot crowd don't see a problem with this.
iPhone is soon going the only phone that matters if you are developing apps for other people.
I didn't realize the iPhone was reaching 100% market penetration so quickly. Out of the ~1,150,000,000 phones sold last year, how many of those were iPhones? 3%? That's a lot to make up this year.
Hmm, on my phone too many wrong pins and you're locked out. All you can do is answer calls. Plus the SD card is encrypted, so if they factory reset the key is lost with it. I may lose my phone, but at least they don't get my data.
It was more of a joke than anything...if there actually was decent evidence that they specifically point north, regardless of any other factor, it'd be something.
So you were stung before by purchasing brand new apple hardware, so you took your lesson learned, went out and purchased another 1st gen apple product?
I got a bank account as a teenager, and one of the security questions was "What is your dream job". 10 years later, they asked me what I had put as my dream job.
This is what drives me nuts. When most places have a series of questions to select from it's always mothers maiden/first car/etc, which I never want to answer. If they do have something other than those, it's "What's your favorite author/movie/food/band". Well that's helpful, it's whatever book I just read / movie I just saw / what I'm making for dinner / what's going through my headphones. Three weeks later, they're useless.
It's forgetting those types of answers that drove me to using a generic answer for each question. It'd be nice if places started allowing you to type in your own question, or ask extremely obscure questions with answers that shouldn't change.
Well, it's a WinMo device, so odds are somewhat decent that its owners have installed ActiveSync (required to update firmware). Also, several months back AT&T announced their upgrade from WinMo 5 to WinMo 6.0 for the phone. Downloading and installing WinMo 6.0 via AT&Ts upgrade also updated to one of the most recent radio stacks.
Obviously that doesn't mean everyone rushed out to download the latest rom. But I'd bet that the percentage of WinMo owners that upgrade their firmware is a good amount greater than owners of 'feature phones'.
That's funny, my phone has had around 40 radio firmware updates released world-wide in the last two years...at least 4 which have been released specifically for AT&T. Voice and signal quality, data speeds and battery life just keep getting better with each release.
Yeah, it is. Through a regular browser on your mobile device, all the traffic is encrypted end to end via SSL. Unless your phone company has a keylogger built into your phone, I doubt they'll be able to grab anything other than which bank you work with.
With Mini your traffic is sent to their proxy and then decrypted on their servers (so somewhere all your info is sitting in plain text), then re-encrypted and submitted.
Except Mini can only interact with a very limited amount of the host OS. With 4.1 it can finally read and save files, but it's a pain. Its saved pages require converters to view on any other browser. I can't set links to open in Mini by default without serious modifications. It can only use a limited amount of system resources (can't display all images on "heavier" websites)
The fact that everything goes through Opera's proxy server is good for speed (usually, I've had plenty of times where it sat processing for over a minute on large pages), but do you really want your bank info being pulled up there? And what is this very slow 3G connection you're talking about? Pulling up slashdot on Opera Mobile 9.5 on AT&T's 3G takes about 6 seconds. Formatted perfectly too. Mini is great for simplified browsing, but Mobile is just so much nicer for "real" browsing.
Dear AC,
From my current experience, to confirm TFA, FF3 leads by a considerable margin. The Opera 9.5, Flock, Safari, and IE8b executables fail to load on my PC, which according to my test automatically means they use more than the 1.5GB of system memory available on my system. Another theory is that it's because of all the listed browsers in the aforementioned test, FF3 is the only one installed on my system. I'm not sure. But in my test, I must conclude that FF3 is the definitive winner, since it's the only one that showed up to the challenge.
Yup, just like those. I'm not disputing the claims that FF3 uses less memory (been using it since alpha 3). I just do a lot of software testing at work, and I thought I'd bring out my inner pedant in relation to this supposed "test".
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So backup your saved games then. Not too tough to do. Anyone that's played video games for more than a month knows to do that.
And what the hell are you talking about with MMOs?
Right, but if everything works with the previous driver, wouldn't it be safe to assume that the old driver would be calling the same APIs? I honestly have no idea, that's just what seems logical to me.
No, it's pretty much been tracked down to one driver that iTunes 8 installs. If you copy over the driver from iTunes 7, it works fine.
except in WoW, nobodies a hero.
Alex Trebek would tend to disagree.
Really? Are you sure? The iPhone is the only mobile phone that requires any and all legitimately purchased software installations to go through a single point of origin. There is no comparison to Symbian, RIM, Linux or Palm. Every other mobile OS has the legitimate option to install applications without 'phoning home' to their respective manufacturer.
It simply amazes me that so many people in the slashdot crowd don't see a problem with this.
iPhone is soon going the only phone that matters if you are developing apps for other people.
I didn't realize the iPhone was reaching 100% market penetration so quickly. Out of the ~1,150,000,000 phones sold last year, how many of those were iPhones? 3%? That's a lot to make up this year.
Hmm, on my phone too many wrong pins and you're locked out. All you can do is answer calls. Plus the SD card is encrypted, so if they factory reset the key is lost with it. I may lose my phone, but at least they don't get my data.
It was more of a joke than anything...if there actually was decent evidence that they specifically point north, regardless of any other factor, it'd be something.
Subject Requires More Study IMO
I'm not sure this subject warrants any study at all...
But did the 2.0.2 patch fix the tiny cracks in the case?
So you were stung before by purchasing brand new apple hardware, so you took your lesson learned, went out and purchased another 1st gen apple product?
Oh come on, the clone makers spent at least a few bucks paying someone to read the osx86 project website...
I got a bank account as a teenager, and one of the security questions was "What is your dream job". 10 years later, they asked me what I had put as my dream job.
This is what drives me nuts. When most places have a series of questions to select from it's always mothers maiden/first car/etc, which I never want to answer. If they do have something other than those, it's "What's your favorite author/movie/food/band". Well that's helpful, it's whatever book I just read / movie I just saw / what I'm making for dinner / what's going through my headphones. Three weeks later, they're useless.
It's forgetting those types of answers that drove me to using a generic answer for each question. It'd be nice if places started allowing you to type in your own question, or ask extremely obscure questions with answers that shouldn't change.
Not that it makes it any better but I could have sworn I needed my SSN last time I reset that.
HTC Hermes
Well, it's a WinMo device, so odds are somewhat decent that its owners have installed ActiveSync (required to update firmware). Also, several months back AT&T announced their upgrade from WinMo 5 to WinMo 6.0 for the phone. Downloading and installing WinMo 6.0 via AT&Ts upgrade also updated to one of the most recent radio stacks.
Obviously that doesn't mean everyone rushed out to download the latest rom. But I'd bet that the percentage of WinMo owners that upgrade their firmware is a good amount greater than owners of 'feature phones'.
That's funny, my phone has had around 40 radio firmware updates released world-wide in the last two years...at least 4 which have been released specifically for AT&T. Voice and signal quality, data speeds and battery life just keep getting better with each release.
Well, was that hour really any worse than reading through this Ask/.? No need to thank me, I'm just here to help!
You could always, you know, type it into Google.
Yeah, it is. Through a regular browser on your mobile device, all the traffic is encrypted end to end via SSL. Unless your phone company has a keylogger built into your phone, I doubt they'll be able to grab anything other than which bank you work with.
With Mini your traffic is sent to their proxy and then decrypted on their servers (so somewhere all your info is sitting in plain text), then re-encrypted and submitted.
Except Mini can only interact with a very limited amount of the host OS. With 4.1 it can finally read and save files, but it's a pain. Its saved pages require converters to view on any other browser. I can't set links to open in Mini by default without serious modifications. It can only use a limited amount of system resources (can't display all images on "heavier" websites)
The fact that everything goes through Opera's proxy server is good for speed (usually, I've had plenty of times where it sat processing for over a minute on large pages), but do you really want your bank info being pulled up there? And what is this very slow 3G connection you're talking about? Pulling up slashdot on Opera Mobile 9.5 on AT&T's 3G takes about 6 seconds. Formatted perfectly too. Mini is great for simplified browsing, but Mobile is just so much nicer for "real" browsing.
Yes, because B-2 pilots surf random links posted on message boards mid flight all the time.
Hehehe!
Dear AC,
From my current experience, to confirm TFA, FF3 leads by a considerable margin. The Opera 9.5, Flock, Safari, and IE8b executables fail to load on my PC, which according to my test automatically means they use more than the 1.5GB of system memory available on my system. Another theory is that it's because of all the listed browsers in the aforementioned test, FF3 is the only one installed on my system. I'm not sure. But in my test, I must conclude that FF3 is the definitive winner, since it's the only one that showed up to the challenge.
Yours,
Toleraen
Yup, just like those. I'm not disputing the claims that FF3 uses less memory (been using it since alpha 3). I just do a lot of software testing at work, and I thought I'd bring out my inner pedant in relation to this supposed "test".